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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 15, 2022 16:11:09 GMT
You are the "ones" that defended and made excuses for Bill Clinton though. Make excuses for what? An affair? That's his and his wife's business. For lyiing about it? Nope. Not OK. Clinton's sex was consensual. Sexual assault, aka "grabbing by the pussy", is not. Pixiechick is lying again. Liberal peas expressed their thoughts of Bill being a piece of shit and did not defend his actions. We also were outspoken with Al Franken too. Where it didn’t apply is where republicans tried to pin his infidelity onto his wife, many years later when she was running for President. And it’s the perfect case of hypocrisy and irony all rolled up into one by pixiechick even making that statement—one only has to look as far as the republicans in congress—Jim Jordan ignoring sexual assault, Matt Faetz and sleeping and paying for sex with minors, trump and double digit sexual assaults… They only one living in that state of “conformity” and “echo chamber” are pixiechik and her conservative buds who think it’s okay to do this shit when you’re republicans. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 15, 2022 16:03:38 GMT
I “inherited” some when my previous boss’s family moved out of state. The wife just wouldn’t pick them up or funds to ship them.
I tried for a few years to sell them—with zero success. I donated them.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 15, 2022 7:24:34 GMT
I wonder how many of those that your brother listened to have since gotten vaccinated and if they had conversations about that with those who were listening when they said early on that they weren't getting vaccinated? I also think it is important to point out that even though hospitals and clinics have fired people who wouldn't get vaccinated, many of those were support staff, not medical professionals. In my area there were lists with % of each type of position that were vaccinated and the numbers went down the less education someone had. So, very few doctors weren't vaccinated, but more CNA's, people working in the cafeteria, etc were not. Also, I was a little worried about the heart issues when getting my sons vaccinated, but heard doctors say that they were much more likely to have those issues if they got Covid than from the vaccine. So, while it is unfortunate that someone you know had myocarditis after the vaccine, who is to say that the same or worse wouldn't have happened if they got Covid and weren't vaccinated. If I was the parent of someone who died after the vaccine, I would definitely be worried about getting my other kids vaccinated and that would be a very hard decision. I would want to know for sure what caused it, whether it was the vaccine itself or an underlying condition. I am sorry for their loss.  I believe that nurse who is his neighbor did finally get her vaccine, but only not to lose her job. So they still listened to her complain that she didn’t want to get it because of her concerns that it isn’t safe. I’m not defending his choice. Do I think there was more evidence/information he could have looked at? Absolutely yes. But when a person you trust who is involved in caring for covid patients only gets the vaccine under duress and still believes it isn’t safe, well that’s a pretty powerful deterrent. And to the people doubting my two friends who died, well aren’t you just special? Gosh what a bunch of judgy mcjudgerson assholes. Glad it wasn’t your kid. I apologize. I forgot that the narrative here is to ridicule people presenting ideas you don’t want to hear. Not sure what I was thinking, I do know better. Considering that only 9 deaths in the USA have occurred as a result/use of the vaccine, it IS hard to believe. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 15, 2022 7:11:30 GMT
I never suggested that DeSantis possibly having covid was anything other than an opinion, guess or speculation. DeSantis going to a ball game isn’t a problem, it’s just inconsistent with his excuse that he was taking care of his family. His sudden disappearance without any communication or advance notice is curious. But, go ahead and continue to defend him. If Cruz is the only Republican you’re willing to criticize after I posted a long list of Republicans guilty of hypocrisy, I’m not interested in a discussion about DeSantis or AOC. But, you might want to examine your own hypocrisy before you call out AOC. During time off for cancer care and the holidays, it's not unreasonable to take a break from the stress and go to a game to enjoy life for a moment. It doesn't mean it's inconsistent with taking care of his wife and kids. I also don't feel obligated to respond to your expanded list of whataboutisms in order to have an honest discussion. I agreed with the last whataboutism and you dismissed it as meaningless, so why bother. You can't seem to honestly discuss without constantly moving the goalposts and ever expanding lists of whataboutisms for me (or whoever) to jump through hoops for. You don't seem to want an honest discussion, you seem to want conformity. Bwaashahahaaaaa… The talk of the defeated. You know you’re so wrong. “Honest discussion” you haven’t done that since creating this latest Alt ID. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 13, 2022 14:14:21 GMT
The irony of accusing others of living in an echo chamber, while simultaneously being so wrapped up in YouTube conspiracy communities that the reality of others' reactions to being played comes as a slap in the face. Exactly my point. Conservatives talk about it, are sanctimonious about outwardly to liberals (everyone but themselves) it thinking and speaking as if they are not the living embodiment of being in it/doing it. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 13, 2022 14:12:50 GMT
My grandson has Covid induced asthma. He really feels like he’s suffocating. You could be spreading it to people like my grandson right now. How can you not see that this is not just about your feelings. Have some compassion for others. She’s proven, through her own words and posts, that she doesn’t give a crap about anyone but herself. Apparently, if you’re a “fat ass”, have diabetes, cancer, other underlying illnesses you’re just lazy and will get covid and be hospitalized and/or die. It’s that conservative mentality—me, me, me, mine, fuck everyone else. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 13, 2022 11:18:42 GMT
Because assumptions are made about conservative peas, name calling starts. The echo chamber of social media. The challenge board is my happy place, and I didn't want cross over is the simple answer. Because I'm human and make mistakes.
And there it is. YOU made assumptions about liberal peas, (actually peas in general) With creating the alter and your subsequent posting. YOU are blaming liberal peas for YOU being shady, dishonest and lying. “Sure I created the alt ID, but liberal peas are mean…” I’m so sick and tired of the conservatives “Libs are mean and call names” bullshit—it’s not all one sided. You all create Al ID’s to be sanctimonious, “mean” and dishonest. You keep mentioning“echo chamber” —a term that conservatives on this board have often used as a derogatory slam upon liberals—when in reality the conservatives are the ones living in that little box fueled by the misinformation and lies on social media. Your apology is not an apology—it’s another chance to blame others—liberals—given your very first sentence in your “apology”. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 23:10:24 GMT
What kind of misogynistic bullshit is this - are you really incapable of making your point without disparaging women and pretending men's anatomy some how makes them brave and strong - disgusting. Pinklady is a former pea who came back with a new name because she said it had too much identifying information. At least that was her excuse. Yet, when new peas come on here, this is what she does. It is not okay.
When refupeas started (transitioned) from 2peas I changed my ID at that time for the same reason (I’ve always been PCA here). |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 22:55:54 GMT
For those of you who do not want to engage in civil discourse one on one via PM, so be it. The main part of the reason I posted this is to see where it would go, and how Peas would handle it. Most enlightening . . . if you can take the time you consider watching this documentary, interviews by Katie Coric. It certainty made sense to me.
This might be enlightening for you…I’m sure you see your own habits of being attracted to the disinformation, conspiracy theories and disingenuous aspects of the Republican Party churning out the lies, the websites, how they have latched onto social media to “brainwash” and sow doubt in politics, push evangelical religious tenants, white supremacy—the scourge has been given a voice via platforms to spew their bullshit. Your lame ass attempt to tie this documentary to the title and OP at hand is just insane. It has nothing to do with it, unless you’re saying that you purposely created the post, along with your Alt ID to be a part of the lying, disinformation machine that was brought up in the documentary. Because that’s what it certainly appears to be. Oh and by the way…not one of us peas OWES you “civil” anything. You’re a liar, you were shady and dishonest. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 21:02:27 GMT
What part of ‘we’re not your experimental lab rats’ is escaping you? WE are all experimental lab rats of the media, social media (making money off of us), etc. Perhaps being educated about the background of how our country became so divided would be helpful? I apologize that you feel like I made you participate in being a experimental lab rat, but you did join the conversation of your own free will, you were not forced. Under shady pretenses, right? And please…spare us the sanctimonious bull crap “experiment” |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 15:59:09 GMT
Several guys my hubby has worked out with and at least a dozen whom my hubby works with.
Not surprisingly they’re all anti-vaxx, verbally and violently so.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 13:59:35 GMT
Just based on my own Gen Z kids, I'm seeing them being a whole lot more environmentally conscious. Reduce, reuse, repurpose is definitely a thing for them. I'm also seeing quite a bit of sentimentality going on with them too. It's not surprising to me that they would want to reclaim family pieces. And they are not putting anything away for when the Queen visits either. However, I never have been like that either so maybe they just get it from me in this case. My youngest sibling is all about the recycling part—all their stuff is “second hand” repurposed and it’s awesome. I have another sibling who doesn’t care and others who are super sentimental—have it on display, and then me a mix of what I love that is “new” mixed with pieces that are old. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 13:55:08 GMT
Interesting. My 31YO son is all about clean lines and simple designs, but I could totally see the fancy cut crystal and other fancy stuff coming back in fashion as a relief from the modern home decor of the past several years. My 32 year old boss is the same. He’s very urban/industrial vibe but has this huge fetish right now with crystal! He sent me photos from a hotel he’s in right now that is all crystal glasses, vases, table settings, and decorations!! |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 13:52:33 GMT
Apologies for what is considered trolling. For future reference please note that all of our opinions have validity. If you truly want to know why I choose to create and alter ego, by all means PM me. Whether you believe it or not, I am a caring individual with many life experiences. I do think we can learn from one another here, I know I have in some instances. Ok, a non apology apology. For ACTUAL trolling. Apparently, whatever life experiences you have, haven’t taught you how well either is usually received by others. She trolled under an Alt ID to see if responses would be different to have a “gotcha-see you hate conservative political people no matter the opinions” posted. And not only did that fail, but she outed herself by accident. Her intent was to create a “test” so she could come back with her superior being and own the Libs. Just another day where conservatives are lying to try to prove a point or ram their echo chamber home. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 13:46:46 GMT
Yep they just revised our policy. For teachers it’s 5 days from the start of symptoms and you must be fever free. For students it’s still 10 days. Nothing in the policy mentions lessening symptoms or no symptoms before returning to work. We currently have 4 staff members out with Covid. Luckily, our company (albeit small) revised the policy to have a longer wait period than the 5 days, plus a negative test within 48 hrs of return. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 13:45:23 GMT
5 days out with improving symptoms. Yeah my doctor wasn’t thrilled with the CDC’s “new” (pressured by big business) recommendation. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 13:41:55 GMT
100% pure gaslighting bullshit. Cancer is NOT a pandemic you feckless moron. And I can say with almost 100% certainty people do mourn and are upset that people are dying of cancer (and other diseases). I watched—literally watched-my own mom die, of some undetermined cancer and and I can tell you that our family, friends and those who knew her in the community “gave a crap”. Cancer, other illnesses and murders are not overwhelming hospitals on a daily basis like covid is—and covid is taking away beds from those who are sick with other issues. Comparing covid to other illnesses is a lie, misinformation, and idiotic false equivalency. The only people who don’t give a crap are selfish morons like yourself. So speak for your self and stop trying to gaslight by trivializing death from cancer, illness, murders. Because people do care. Maybe you don’t ad you’ve indicated, but many do. You are truly disgusting. I did speak for myself... Nope. You said that “nobody gave a crap” about deaths from other things. You didn’t say “I didn’t give a crap” you said nobody. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 13:40:30 GMT
And furthermore—to use cindoshas own terminology—for the “morons” like herself who cannot seem to understand the most basic science… Going back to when covid was first here…and the republicans were determined to hide/suppress it, (and did so for months before we were told just how bad it was) because it wasn’t a “good look” for them politically (the sole reason), and then allowed those republican politicians to get their ducks in a row with investing in and promoting the pharmaceutical companies involved in vaccines, PPE, etc… Fact is that if more people had taken care then—masking up, staying home, getting the vaccine—we would be where we are now. Fact is that if more people would have been vaccinated hospitals and medical staff would not be as overwhelmed to this day. going back to when covid was first here, the entire country was shut down and just about everyone had to work from home. Businesses were closed and masks were worn for months and months and months. the vaccine wasn't available for 9 months after the shutdown so the virus had months and months to spread. If masks had been effective, there would not have been the spread that there was. And before you get so high and mighty about if masks had been worn......may I remind you of the occasions where our own politicians (pelosi and newsome just to name a couple), actors and sports figures were allowed to go on with their lives without them during that 9 months before the vax was available. The fact is that there was hundreds of thousands dead before the vaccine was available. The fact is that there was no vaccine available until December of 2020. Because the republicans in charge minimized, trivialized, hid the pandemic. They were slow (or non-existent) in any other effort to minimize the problem. They fought masks from the get go. They harassed (still to this day) businesses who had to close for the safety of their workers and customers. They held back PPE that was available, and refused to help ramp up production when they had the opportunity. Fact is they did what you’re doing in this thread—trivializing it, mocking it, and lying about it. They’re threading teachers, medical professionals with violence. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 13:34:09 GMT
You seriously cannot be this dumb. We’re losing 1,000+ people a day to COVID. Right now. And Merge is married with kids. No need for gratuitous bitchiness, although I realize it’s always been kind of your trademark. Yes because you and everyone else on this board are so sweet and kind. My condolences to her husband and kids. We will lose hundreds of thousands of people every year from a host of different illnesses. Covid included. I’m not going to spend the rest of my days changing my life and worrying and living in fear of covid. I’m just not. Nobody gave two craps about those thousands and thousands of people dying every day from cancer, diabetes, car accident, drownings, murders, etc. before covid. I’m sick of seeing and hearing about it on tv, in stores, on the radio, in offices…freaking everywhere. I want it to end. 100% pure gaslighting bullshit. Cancer is NOT a pandemic you feckless moron. And I can say with almost 100% certainty people do mourn and are upset that people are dying of cancer (and other diseases). I watched—literally watched-my own mom die, of some undetermined cancer and and I can tell you that our family, friends and those who knew her in the community “gave a crap”. Cancer, other illnesses and murders are not overwhelming hospitals on a daily basis like covid is—and covid is taking away beds from those who are sick with other issues. Comparing covid to other illnesses is a lie, misinformation, and idiotic false equivalency. The only people who don’t give a crap are selfish morons like yourself. So speak for your self and stop trying to gaslight by trivializing death from cancer, illness, murders. Because people do care. Maybe you don’t ad you’ve indicated, but many do. You are truly disgusting. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 13:24:56 GMT
You don't get to decide how everyone feels. Me personally? I am not living in fear. Many other peas who are also concerned about covid and are taking simple steps to stop the spread have stated they're not living in fear either. I don’t care what everyone else feels. I’m not sure where you read that I was deciding how everyone feels. I’m sick of having nonstop covid shoved in my face everywhere I go and in everything I do. I’m going to live my life the way I want to and I don’t give two craps what anyone else thinks about that. Read: I’m selfish, selfish, selfish… I don’t care about anyone but myself, everyone else be damned. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 12:58:58 GMT
Apologies for what is considered trolling. For future reference please note that all of our opinions have validity. If you truly want to know why I choose to create and alter ego, by all means PM me. Whether you believe it or not, I am a caring individual with many life experiences. I do think we can learn from one another here, I know I have in some instances. Not all opinions are “valid”. Especially those where the posters are degenerating science, recommending urine cures, outright lying, and void of factual evidence. You can HAVE your opinion…it just doesn’t make it valid (or a fact). |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 11:52:45 GMT
And furthermore—to use cindoshas own terminology—for the “morons” like herself who cannot seem to understand the most basic science…
Going back to when covid was first here…and the republicans were determined to hide/suppress it, (and did so for months before we were told just how bad it was) because it wasn’t a “good look” for them politically (the sole reason), and then allowed those republican politicians to get their ducks in a row with investing in and promoting the pharmaceutical companies involved in vaccines, PPE, etc…
Fact is that if more people had taken care then—masking up, staying home, getting the vaccine—we would be where we are now.
Fact is that if more people would have been vaccinated hospitals and medical staff would not be as overwhelmed to this day.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 11:29:11 GMT
They really don’t. This thinking showed up in snarky meme form, in my FB feed today. So because omicron is so much more contagious, my vaxxed and boostered chances of getting it have increased, it somehow renders a vaccine that will STILL more that likely keep me from dying or needing hospitalization, as completely useless? Sterilizing immunity exists with very few vaccines, even the current polio one - which has been effective enough without it to eradicate it in almost all countries. It never ceases to amaze me how many people think that if you get Covid you’re going to end up on ventilator or die from it. We have morons who are so afraid of getting Covid even though they’re vaccinated and boosted and masked that they put their own children in the trunks of cars and drive them to a testing station to get tested because they’re afraid of catching it from their child. WTF!! between 97% and 99.5% of people survive Covid and they have since the beginning of this pandemic. Do you want to stay out of hospitals ?? get off your fat ass and exercise, lose some weight, quit smoking, quit drinking, quit eating fast food and get healthy. For the vast majority of people, this omicron variant is nothing more than a cold and sniffles and people are losing their shit over it. There is a 2% death rate and those are people with co-morbidities or unvaxed. If you are vaccinated and boosted, quit worrying about this. You can’t blame unvaccinated people for giving “you” Covid anymore. It can be spread by people that are vaccinated and masked. We need to get back to just living our lives like we should be, get people back into their jobs, get children back in school, we are doing them a huge disservice by them not being in the classrooms. Let’s hope this trend continues and the next variant in the variants after that are weaker and weaker and weaker. And on behalf of the medical professionals literally begging for help because they’re overwhelmed daily in this ongoing pandemic—fuck you. Using your own “logic” you don’t know if it’s a vaxxed or unvaxxed person spreading or carrying covid to others (yet evidence shows that the overwhelming majority of those in hospitals with it are the unvaxxed). Republicans/conservatives have NEVER been known as catalysts for the well being and good of the community as a whole. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 11:26:20 GMT
They really don’t. This thinking showed up in snarky meme form, in my FB feed today. So because omicron is so much more contagious, my vaxxed and boostered chances of getting it have increased, it somehow renders a vaccine that will STILL more that likely keep me from dying or needing hospitalization, as completely useless? Sterilizing immunity exists with very few vaccines, even the current polio one - which has been effective enough without it to eradicate it in almost all countries. It never ceases to amaze me how many people think that if you get Covid you’re going to end up on ventilator or die from it. We have morons who are so afraid of getting Covid even though they’re vaccinated and boosted and masked that they put their own children in the trunks of cars and drive them to a testing station to get tested because they’re afraid of catching it from their child. WTF!! between 97% and 99.5% of people survive Covid and they have since the beginning of this pandemic. Do you want to stay out of hospitals ?? get off your fat ass and exercise, lose some weight, quit smoking, quit drinking, quit eating fast food and get healthy. For the vast majority of people, this omicron variant is nothing more than a cold and sniffles and people are losing their shit over it. There is a 2% death rate and those are people with co-morbidities or unvaxed. If you are vaccinated and boosted, quit worrying about this. You can’t blame unvaccinated people for giving “you” Covid anymore. It can be spread by people that are vaccinated and masked. We need to get back to just living our lives like we should be, get people back into their jobs, get children back in school, we are doing them a huge disservice by them not being in the classrooms. Let’s hope this trend continues and the next variant in the variants after that are weaker and weaker and weaker. You do realize that your “fat ass lose weight stop smoking” diatribe comes from a very out of context republican/anti-vaxx rhetoric on a super small percentage(like less than .03% of only another small percentage study (not all who have died) from a study of who was dying from covid? Nope of course you don’t because people like you only repeat what they’ve been spoon fed by conservative provocateurs who are only there for the grift. All you do is prove on the daily that republicans/conservatives are selfish, uncaring people who don’t seem to give a fuck about people dying as long as doesn’t affect them personally. People like you are disgusting when it comes to being so god damned flip over deaths from covid. I know several people who were perfectly healthy, didn’t smoke or drink who died of covid or who were seriously affected by it-health wise, emotionally and financially destroyed after by it. My 4 year old and 1 year old nieces had the first variant and it was terrifying. So fuck you. So you cindosha can rightfully fuck the fuck off and stop spreading more lies and misinformation. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 11:15:04 GMT
Not only is he the former president and his incompetence in handling the virus is relevant, regrettably, he’s the head of the Republican Party. Republican politicians are tripping over themselves for his approval. DeSantis and Abbott are competing to see who can do more to stop all mitigation measures. Both of them are huge proponents of let em rip, Trump’s only strategy in the summer of 2020. As soon as Republican voters and politicians turn on Trump, I’m willing to dismiss him. Until then, like it or not, he’s still relevant. I remember when Trump wanted to close the borders in January 2020 and he was ridiculed as a xenophobe. He still is…your point would be what? |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 11:04:38 GMT
Cowardice.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2022 2:59:42 GMT
We prefer pulled pork over our nachos and we use white American cheese as the melty stuff!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 11, 2022 19:01:48 GMT
Do these people just enjoy coming up with the most outrageous things and then watching others lap it up? It’s all about the grift. These idiots make money off the gullible and stupid. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 11, 2022 13:01:16 GMT
Hope your doing better. Did your doctors office answer you? Just to try a hydrocortisone cream! I cannot believe it’s still bugging me around my lip line, corners of my mouth. I’ve been loading on cream and coconut oils and it dries out and feels crackly with an hour! |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 11, 2022 12:59:39 GMT
I hope you’re feeling better. I’ve been constantly in/out of the hospital since Thanksgiving and they make you wear their mask. They don’t care if I have a N95/KN95 mask or not. I always put ‘their’ mask over whatever I’m wearing. I never put their mask on first, made that mistake once and I won’t do it again, it smelled funky and I had a rash after. As someone said, they’re going thru a ton of masks, I’ve gotta believe their cheap ones. I’ll definitely be doing that next time!!! |
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