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Post by cadoodlebug on Feb 27, 2020 15:21:47 GMT
Can someone tell me what happened at EOE/what Nat did? She figured out the way to get the code to open the box with the advantage. The string of shells that they received with their clues was the way to open the code. She then threw Amber and Danni's string of shells away after smashing them. Smart girl. The advantage she got was to give someone back at camp an advantage. I can't remember if it was an extra vote or nullifying a vote. something along those lines I think. She chose Sarah. Sarah had to sneak into the other camp in the middle of the night and get something out of one of their torches. The torches were right next to where they were sleeping and she was making a lot of noise. I held my breath the entire time! But she was succesful. Natalie now has another token. Oh, and Tony helped Sarah get to the other camp. But she did the torch thing by herself.
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Post by mich5481 on Feb 27, 2020 15:52:39 GMT
I didn't know that Rob and Amber moved to Pensacola. Of course, I don't keep up with them outside of Survivor. I live near Pensacola- had no idea they live here!
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Post by mich5481 on Feb 27, 2020 16:05:20 GMT
And once again Sandra rides the bench in a challenge. She'll keep doing it as long as they let her. Once they lose a challenge, they should vote her out. They've already started with the Queen nonsense, so I doubt they will. Poor Ethan, he always seemed like such a nice guy. I bet they all knew they couldn't beat him at the end, with his history of starting Grassroots Soccer and beating cancer twice. Given the way the game has been manipulated from a final 2 to a final 3 to a fire making challenge at 4, if he made it too deep, they wouldn't have been able to get him out.
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Post by mich5481 on Feb 27, 2020 16:07:16 GMT
Adam was the only vote for Parv. Ethan, Rob and Parv voted for Adam. The Ethan eviction was a surprise as his name had not been mentioned. Once again, very stupid to keep Rob and Parv. Ethan had always been one of my favorites but last night once I realized he was aligned with the two nastiest people, I was rather glad he was blindsided. You have to give Natalie credit...she is smart. Why does Sandra get to sit out all the challenges? Michelle mentioned Ethan as a way to break up the old school without ticking off Rob as much as if they had voted off Parvati. Sandra sits out because she can't keep up in challenges, and her team lets her because they don't want to go to Tribal over her dead weight.
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Post by mich5481 on Feb 27, 2020 16:10:44 GMT
Why does Sandra get to sit out all the challenges? The rule is the same person can't sit out twice in a row. I think it should be changed so that no one can sit out twice until every person on the tribe has sat out once. I think it used to be twice in a row when they did a reward challenge in the same episode as an immunity challenge. I don't think the rule applies when there is only one challenge per episode. She competed in the first challenge because both tribes were even, sat out the 2nd because her tribe was up a member, competed in the 3rd because both tribes were even again, and then sat out the 4th because her tribe had an extra member. It will be interesting to see if she sits out again next week and to see who joins her on the sit out bench, since her tribe has 2 extra members now.
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Post by cme37 on Feb 27, 2020 16:18:27 GMT
I think they should only be allowed to sit out once until everyone has sat out.
I was sad that Ethan was voted out. I think they should have gone after Parv or Rob. Seems a little fishy to me that they ended up going for Ethan. He was no threat at this time.
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 27, 2020 17:50:41 GMT
Adam was the only vote for Parv. Ethan, Rob and Parv voted for Adam. The Ethan eviction was a surprise as his name had not been mentioned. Once again, very stupid to keep Rob and Parv. Ethan had always been one of my favorites but last night once I realized he was aligned with the two nastiest people, I was rather glad he was blindsided. You have to give Natalie credit...she is smart. Why does Sandra get to sit out all the challenges? Michelle & Jeremy had a whole discussion on targeting Ethan. It was brilliant IMHO. It sent a message to Rob and Parv that Adam was out of the loop with the New School players and not running anything. I LOVE that it was Rob that outed Adam. I LOVED that Jeremey & Michelle figured out how to neutralize Adam and still hold the New School majority. I love Natalie with all my heart. I thought Amber had it figured out and was a little bummed and so delighted that it didn't work.
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Post by birukitty on Feb 27, 2020 22:18:09 GMT
I was so upset after last night's episode. I really wanted to see Ethan play longer in the main camp. Sure Parv could have had an idol but then why didn't they take the opportunity and vote Rob out? Knowing how that girl operates in the game if she had an idol do you really think she would have given an idol she had to Rob to save him? I don't. What I mean by that is that she is a fierce competitor who knows how to protect herself. On the other hand I wouldn't have been a bit upset if Adam had been voted out either. He made a huge mistake going to Rob and telling him that plan was to vote Rob out and that he Adam was the instigator of the plan! He thought it was going to build trust between himself and Rob but instead it backfired. Of course it backfired Adam, that's going against Survivor's basic theology. You just don't do that.
Sandra sitting out the challenges like a Queen. DS said last night they call her the Queen because she sits out challenges and her team works for her like little peasants. I laughed. But yeah, I get what all of you are saying too. I also don't think it's fair.
Do I think next week they'll "drop their buffs". I don't know. In the previews for next week it looked like they're playing on the same teams as they did this week but we all know how they love to fool us with the previews.
Oh my gosh-I can't stand the way the EOE is taking time away from the main island and camp life. We only get one challenge and both teams only get one time to come together. DS suggested that if they can't extend it to 90 minutes they should do it like they do Ponderosa. Have EOE online so viewers can go there to watch that section. I think it's a great idea. I would guess that almost everyone has access to a smart phone at least to see it.
I love Natalie. She was so quick to come up with the solution to the puzzle on EOE this time. I think what she did though Cadoodlebug was to break one shells of the string of shells (so it'd have the wrong number) and to toss the other one in the bushes. I could be wrong though. Amber tried very hard but Dani gave up too quick. Although Dani did catch her first fish with the sling her first time trying it. I said to DS, "If you had a chance to go there wouldn't you take lessons beforehand on doing that (spear fishing) and do like Ethan did-take free diving classes before you go so you can hold you breath longer?" I hope Ethan's free diving classes come in handy at EOE when he tries spear fishing. Free diving classes teach you how to hold you breath for 3-4 minutes. That seems like such a great advantage before leaving before Survivor. I'm just sad that Ethan didn't get to use it for challenges.
Sarah and Tony-what a pair! I love them both, although I really thought Sarah was going to get caught trying to get that advantage out of the torch in the enemy's camp. She was making so much noise!
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Post by femalebusiness on Feb 28, 2020 1:23:22 GMT
About Sarah and her raid on the other camp, it did seem that she made noise and it also looked like one of the players heard her but that could have been editing. Do the camera people walk around at night after everyone goes to sleep? If so that is probably why it was not as hard to get in and out as it seemed to be. The sleepers are used to small noises after lights out.
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 28, 2020 2:53:06 GMT
About Sarah and her raid on the other camp, it did seem that she made noise and it also looked like one of the players heard her but that could have been editing. Do the camera people walk around at night after everyone goes to sleep? If so that is probably why it was not as hard to get in and out as it seemed to be. The sleepers are used to small noises after lights out. Yes, Dalton talks about this in his recap. There are production/crew at the camps all night long, plus tribe members moving around, so unless the entire stack of torches were knocked over or Sarah literally tripped over a sleeping cast member, it was unlikely that anyone would catch Sarah in the act. I'm sure it was still an adrenaline rush for her and she felt like she could be caught at any moment. I was surprised that everyone was spread out and not sleeping in shelter.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Feb 28, 2020 2:53:11 GMT
About Sarah and her raid on the other camp, it did seem that she made noise and it also looked like one of the players heard her but that could have been editing. Do the camera people walk around at night after everyone goes to sleep? If so that is probably why it was not as hard to get in and out as it seemed to be. The sleepers are used to small noises after lights out. Dalton Ross on EW said that there are always production people walking around at night, so a little noise wouldn't be out of the ordinary.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Feb 28, 2020 2:57:56 GMT
I think what she did though Cadoodlebug was to break one shells of the string of shells (so it'd have the wrong number) and to toss the other one in the bushes. I could be wrong though. No , you're right. I guess I was over-simplifying it.
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Post by linhaz on Feb 28, 2020 16:35:01 GMT
I really thought it would be ROB voted out. Surprised it was Ethan.
Sandra volunteers to sit out challenges, if her team had a problem with her sitting out the challenges they should speak up. The team must think it's beneficial for them to have her sit out. Meanwhile she is not getting weak by exerting herself and she has less risk of injuries so it is good for her. Plus, if they lose she can't be blamed for blowing the challenge. A win, win for Sandra.
I also agree the show should be a 90-minute show so we don't lose any time from the main island. I feel the show is so choppy now and we don't get the insight into the relationships developing.
As for the EOE challenge, I kept thinking someone would catch on to the clue: YOU HAVE ALL YOU NEED. I would have thought back to what else was included in the packet received. I love that Natalie figured it out and so smart smashing a shell and tossing the other. Happy for her. And at least Amber was trying to solve it and Dani didn't seem to put much effort into solving it.
I am liking the EOE addition except for the fact it does lessen the time of the main competitors still in the game. So far enjoying this season's start.
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Post by cme37 on Mar 5, 2020 18:52:45 GMT
Last night's show was heartbreaking watching Ethan. That challenge was grueling. All for another fire token. Seemed a bit much to me. They spend a lot of time on EOE.
I was not surprised to see Tyson go. It seems like the "older" players are being voted off at an alarming pace.
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Mar 5, 2020 18:59:02 GMT
I felt so bad for Ethan too. I was really touched when the ladies accompanied him on his last trip up the steps.
I was really bummed that Tyson was voted off. I really like him. It seems like all the "known" winners with personalities are going to get picked off one by one.
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Post by bc2ca on Mar 5, 2020 19:49:32 GMT
I've never been a big Tyler fan and kind of enjoyed watching him get blindsided. Especially after he couldn't name all the people in his tribe. He's always had a dismissive arrogance toward people not in his alliance. I also enjoyed Sandra and the way she really owns her game. The best thing for her team is for her to sit out the challenges. I was more surprised that Tony sat out with her. I LOVED the challenge this week. What a huge miscalculation to put the three shortest tribe members on the leap for the keys. I loved Jeremy's comment about Adam behaving like one of his kids when they know you are disappointed in them. I also loved that Rob made up a story about Adam but was so disappointed that Jeremy & Michele were so willing to take his word for it. Not sure Tyson put thought into giving away his fire token. I was sure he'd give it to Rob or Parvati.
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Post by workingclassdog on Mar 5, 2020 19:49:51 GMT
Man it was killing me to watch Ethan.. that was grueling. Personally a little over the top in my opinion for a challenge. I didn't realize how fit Natalie was.. she really killed it.
Edited to add.. I am again shocked that Sandra sat out again. That alone, always volunteering to sit out.. I would vote her butt out fast. Hell why should "I" have to do all the challenges while she sits on her bum? Is there some strategy that I am not aware of?
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Post by femalebusiness on Mar 5, 2020 20:00:41 GMT
I loved the way that the women supported Ethan. So very cool of them.
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Post by kelly8875 on Mar 5, 2020 20:10:57 GMT
Man it was killing me to watch Ethan.. that was grueling. Personally a little over the top in my opinion for a challenge. I didn't realize how fit Natalie was.. she really killed it. Edited to add.. I am again shocked that Sandra sat out again. That alone, always volunteering to sit out.. I would vote her butt out fast. Hell why should "I" have to do all the challenges while she sits on her bum? Is there some strategy that I am not aware of? I don’t see it as Sandra sitting out for herself, and the tribe letting her do it. I see it as they all know she cannot do these challenges and would drag the team down. She’s at least honest when she says “I can’t do this challenge”. These are some of the most physical challenges lately!
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Post by paget on Mar 5, 2020 22:20:35 GMT
I found the girls supporting Ethan on EOE really touching! It was obviously a super hard challenge and for them to chose to do a whole other round of it just to be kind actually made me cry.
I want Natalie to win it all. I’m glad for the merge next week - the current tribe groupings are dull in my opinion.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Mar 5, 2020 22:30:56 GMT
The season is going to be a lot duller once all the big names are out and it's just a bunch of people who were so boring that even though I know I saw their seasons, I don't remember them. Oh, I guess Sandra will still be there. Someone's gotta sit on that bench!
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Post by pjaye on Mar 5, 2020 22:56:22 GMT
I've always liked Ethan, he's probably my favourite player, but he played such a long time ago and the game is so different now that I didn't expect him to last long. But that last episode proved why they wanted him out, if he made it to the final & told his story, no way is anyone winning against him.
I did LOL @ Tyson saying he'd rather swallow his fire token than give it to someone.
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Post by bc2ca on Mar 5, 2020 23:37:18 GMT
Man it was killing me to watch Ethan.. that was grueling. Personally a little over the top in my opinion for a challenge. I didn't realize how fit Natalie was.. she really killed it. Edited to add.. I am again shocked that Sandra sat out again. That alone, always volunteering to sit out.. I would vote her butt out fast. Hell why should "I" have to do all the challenges while she sits on her bum? Is there some strategy that I am not aware of? I don’t see it as Sandra sitting out for herself, and the tribe letting her do it. I see it as they all know she cannot do these challenges and would drag the team down. She’s at least honest when she says “I can’t do this challenge”. These are some of the most physical challenges lately! No one is upset at her sitting out. Well, except maybe the other team because they were on a losing streak and wanted the weakest player in the challenge thinking it would give them a better chance to win. I seriously loved the way Sandra was "hell ya, name the bench after me" when Parvati called her out. And I guarantee Parvati is on Sandra's hit list because of that.
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Post by julieb on Mar 6, 2020 0:25:38 GMT
Can't stand Sandra. It's Survivor - you should have to do a certain amount of the challenges, like The Amazing Race.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Mar 6, 2020 1:08:50 GMT
I cried when the girls walked with Ethan. That challenge was brutal. Natalie impressed me. I missed that she was CrossFit.
I’m enjoying the season. It was nice to see someone playing a game at camp. The first few seasons were fun to watch because of the ways they kept themselves busy.
Editing/filming seems to have a different feel than other seasons.
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Post by birukitty on Mar 6, 2020 7:24:25 GMT
I really liked this episode because we were finally allowed to see a bit more of camp life. Did anyone else notice that it seemed we got more of that this episode? I think the reason we did is because they spent less time at Tribal Council which is fine by me. I'd much rather have a short and sweet Tribal Council and see more of camp life, wouldn't you-that a 20 minute Tribal Council.
That challenge on EOE was such a brutal one especially for people living such a sparse life on EOE-they've got to be down on calories but at least they can relax a bit and not be worried about being voted out while they are there. Still-10 times up that huge mountain in that heat and humidity must have been excruciatingly brutal. DS said had he been there he would have chosen not to do it at all and would've spent the day fishing instead. Me? I would have had to try at least to finish the task. Natalie was so incredibly amazing. I think I heard she is a Cross-fit Trainer. She has really come a long way since she was first on The Amazing Race-both in fitness and in focus and game strategy, inner strength, that sort of thing. I admire her so much. It tore my heart out to see Ethan struggle physically and when the girls all joined him on that last run-that was so incredibly touching.
That swimming and pulling of the boats challenge is a very difficult one physically and bc2ca is absolutely right when she mentioned how the team with Adam, Denise and Parv made a huge mistake when they chose these 3 to grab the buoys on that platform then jump into the water on that challenge. They are all too short. Denise didn't even come close, Parv tried but didn't get close so it was all left up to Adam who was completely exhausted by the time he tried over and over to grab that last one. In the end it ended up not mattering anyway because they came up from behind with their great puzzle skill (Rob and who was it?) to win the challenge. I don't know what was wrong with Rob's puzzle work that past two challenges (could it be possible he threw those?) because they sucked, but this time he was back to being great at puzzles, so much so he helped his team come back from behind to win the challenge and chickens.
So the blue team went to tribal for the second time and Tyson went home. That's fine by me. I never was much of a Tyson fan. He never struck me as caring that much about his fellow man or being that much of a genuine person. I could be completely wrong. I'm only going by his "Survivor game persona".
Next week it's tribe swap time and I can't believe here we are with this time already here and the biggest targets in the game are all still in the game-Sandra, Rob and Parv. I now predict they will all be there come merge time. This has always been the biggest mistake previous players make-not getting them out fast enough. Although I do get what Tony said about Tyson and wanting to keep him in the game as a "meat shield". A big target Tony can hide behind. That made a lot of sense.
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Post by linhaz on Mar 6, 2020 16:16:26 GMT
I also thought the EOE Challenge was a tough one. I was wondering how long it took for each of them to complete it. Natalie was exerting a lot of effort to get it done but it was not a race amongst the four so as long as you got it done by sundown you were good. I would have paced myself. It appeared they all completed it well before the sun started to come down... And I also teared a bit when they all accompanied Ethan on his last climb. And when Amber started talking about how close they had become (kleenex please).
And I agree, why did that team choose the shortest people to make the jump? I really thought they were done for yet again. We were really cheering for them at the puzzle challenge and happy they won. Love a come from behind win. Again, I think its smart of Sandra not to do the challenges if she can get away with it. She doesn't get hurt, she is not the cause of her team losing, she doesn't exert herself physically. Her team seems to be okay with it.
So excited about a team switch up next week!!!
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Post by paget on Mar 6, 2020 19:28:22 GMT
I also thought the EOE Challenge was a tough one. I was wondering how long it took for each of them to complete it. Natalie was exerting a lot of effort to get it done but it was not a race amongst the four so as long as you got it done by sundown you were good. I would have paced myself. It appeared they all completed it well before the sun started to come down... And I also teared a bit when they all accompanied Ethan on his last climb. And when Amber started talking about how close they had become (kleenex please). And I agree, why did that team choose the shortest people to make the jump? I really thought they were done for yet again. We were really cheering for them at the puzzle challenge and happy they won. Love a come from behind win. Again, I think its smart of Sandra not to do the challenges if she can get away with it. She doesn't get hurt, she is not the cause of her team losing, she doesn't exert herself physically. Her team seems to be okay with it. So excited about a team switch up next week!!! The people who had to jump for the keys were also the people in the boat getting pulled along by the swimmers. The team Probably chose the four strongest people/swimmers and thinking it would be easier to pull the lighter people - and maybe not realizing how high they would have to jump and how that would bite them.
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Post by bc2ca on Mar 6, 2020 19:35:28 GMT
But that last episode proved why they wanted him out, if he made it to the final & told his story, no way is anyone winning against him. Great guy and probably the nicest winner ever, but no way anyone wants to sit next to him at final tribal. I was wondering how long it took for each of them to complete it. I'd love to know this, too. It was edited at one point to look like the sun was setting, but then the final leg was with the sun still high. I think Natalie set a brutal pace that the others felt pressured to keep up.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Mar 7, 2020 5:49:57 GMT
I would love the new tribes to have Sandra and Parv on one and Rob on the other. Then have Sandra go after Parv.
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