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Post by MichyM on Oct 26, 2022 3:37:44 GMT
By the way, thanks for listening to me rant tonight ladies. ❤️
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 26, 2022 4:51:46 GMT
Worth pointing out here that this Official GOP-run account has yet to delete this tweet, which was bad to begin with and now has aged like a bag of shrimp shells left in a hot car. I denounce anti-semitism. I have conflicted feelings about the way we treat and understand mental illness in this country, but that doesn’t make me sympathetic to Kanye in this situation. As someone else pointed out, mental illness doesn’t make you anti-semitic. That had to be in there already. That's from Gym Jordan....
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Post by quinlove on Oct 26, 2022 4:53:18 GMT
F him. I hope every sponsor cuts him off. Consequences for actions - including and especially hate speech. Good for Adidas - they’ve got my patronage now. Elaine, I am with you 100%. Always and forever.
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Post by slowrunner70 on Oct 26, 2022 8:54:27 GMT
I want to add one more thing. Not speaking out is part of the problem. Not just us Jews, but everyone. You, and you, and you included. As I said upthread, when businesses make no statements, take no action against anti-Semites, they are condoning the behavior. If you’re shrugging your shoulders and moving on without saying anything, you’re part of the problem. You are absolutely, 100% right. Silence = complicity Say something.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 26, 2022 10:39:45 GMT
I want to be very clear that I am not condoning his behavior. However, it seems to me that he is having a manic episode. I am not saying he just gets a free pass but he has a mental illness and so I am a bit conflicted here. I want society to take mental illness more seriously and I want society to be more compassionate towards people inflicted with mental diseases. Doesn’t feel right to me if I say I want this for all those affected with mental illness except for Kanye. Idk just the inner conflict I have had when thinking about this the last couple of days. Laurie I just want to say, not to beat you up or anything but to try to share my experience with mania both personally and that of my daughter. There is possibly anger, lofty thinking, paranoia and acting out. But those things tend to be triggered by something going on in our personal lives and our heads. Like my DD will often attack me verbally abusive like for not giving her enough allowance money when she was 14. Her reaction is over the top but the basis of it is lodged in some kind of reality blown out of proportion. What I am saying here is that I believe Kanye is antisemitic. Mania just maybe allowed him to verbalize it in a way someone without mental illness might have had the good sense to keep it to themselves. I also have a very hard time giving him any kind of pass when it comes to his mental health because he has access to the very best of care. I have a very hard time controlling my mental illness. But I work at it and I work at it and I work at it some more. Kanye needs to do the same. I have compassion, to a point. I know that not everybody is me and not every situation is the same, but he's been a train wreck for a very long time and if he can't control it better, then maybe he needs to be out of the spotlight and people need to stop doing business with him so he can go take care of himself.
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Post by elaine on Oct 26, 2022 10:46:10 GMT
I want to be very clear that I am not condoning his behavior. However, it seems to me that he is having a manic episode. I am not saying he just gets a free pass but he has a mental illness and so I am a bit conflicted here. I want society to take mental illness more seriously and I want society to be more compassionate towards people inflicted with mental diseases. Doesn’t feel right to me if I say I want this for all those affected with mental illness except for Kanye. Idk just the inner conflict I have had when thinking about this the last couple of days. Laurie I just want to say, not to beat you up or anything but to try to share my experience with mania both personally and that of my daughter. There is possibly anger, lofty thinking, paranoia and acting out. But those things tend to be triggered by something going on in our personal lives and our heads. Like my DD will often attack me verbally abusive like for not giving her enough allowance money when she was 14. Her reaction is over the top but the basis of it is lodged in some kind of reality blown out of proportion. What I am saying here is that I believe Kanye is antisemitic. Mania just maybe allowed him to verbalize it in a way someone without mental illness might have had the good sense to keep it to themselves. I also have a very hard time giving him any kind of pass when it comes to his mental health because he has access to the very best of care. I have a very hard time controlling my mental illness. But I work at it and I work at it and I work at it some more. Kanye needs to do the same. I have compassion, to a point. I know that not everybody is me and not every situation is the same, but he's been a train wreck for a very long time and if he can't control it better, then maybe he needs to be out of the spotlight and people need to stop doing business with him so he can go take care of himself. I love you for so many reasons. 🥰 You know yourself well, work hard, and give so much to the board by sharing with who you are and what you think. Thank you.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 26, 2022 10:55:25 GMT
Laurie I just want to say, not to beat you up or anything but to try to share my experience with mania both personally and that of my daughter. There is possibly anger, lofty thinking, paranoia and acting out. But those things tend to be triggered by something going on in our personal lives and our heads. Like my DD will often attack me verbally abusive like for not giving her enough allowance money when she was 14. Her reaction is over the top but the basis of it is lodged in some kind of reality blown out of proportion. What I am saying here is that I believe Kanye is antisemitic. Mania just maybe allowed him to verbalize it in a way someone without mental illness might have had the good sense to keep it to themselves. I also have a very hard time giving him any kind of pass when it comes to his mental health because he has access to the very best of care. I have a very hard time controlling my mental illness. But I work at it and I work at it and I work at it some more. Kanye needs to do the same. I have compassion, to a point. I know that not everybody is me and not every situation is the same, but he's been a train wreck for a very long time and if he can't control it better, then maybe he needs to be out of the spotlight and people need to stop doing business with him so he can go take care of himself. I love you for so many reasons. 🥰 You know yourself well, work hard, and give so much to the board by sharing with who you are and what you think. Thank you. I appreciate that. This is in my mind a very clear case of right and wrong. And it irritates me that he has a platform to influence others. On the flip side, I know for a fact I have people around me who if they saw me getting out of control would activate to bring me back to reality. Somebody needs to reign him in. The more people who support him, the more emboldened he will get.
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Post by Really Red on Oct 26, 2022 13:58:06 GMT
I want to be very clear that I am not condoning his behavior. However, it seems to me that he is having a manic episode. I am not saying he just gets a free pass but he has a mental illness and so I am a bit conflicted here. I want society to take mental illness more seriously and I want society to be more compassionate towards people inflicted with mental diseases. Doesn’t feel right to me if I say I want this for all those affected with mental illness except for Kanye. Idk just the inner conflict I have had when thinking about this the last couple of days. I think you are likely right. It doesn't seem possible that someone would come out and make these statements unless something else is going on. In that case, I still think we have to condemn his statements, but you can caveat it. If he comes out and apologizes and takes his meds, then things can change. As it is now, he has a big following who listen to him. His statements have an impact and it is a bad one. Adidas sucks. I can understand taking 24 hours to come to terms that this mentally-ill person isn't going to deny what he said, but any longer makes them a part of the problem. Anyone who is giving money to this man - via his clothing line, shoes, music - is a part of the problem. Hate speech is still against the law in the US. Not sure why this is being allowed.
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Post by epeanymous on Oct 26, 2022 14:02:05 GMT
By the way, thanks for listening to me rant tonight ladies. ❤️ It is super to have you back! (If you are back!)
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Post by marmargirl on Oct 26, 2022 15:09:17 GMT
I want to be very clear that I am not condoning his behavior. However, it seems to me that he is having a manic episode. I am not saying he just gets a free pass but he has a mental illness and so I am a bit conflicted here. I want society to take mental illness more seriously and I want society to be more compassionate towards people inflicted with mental diseases. Doesn’t feel right to me if I say I want this for all those affected with mental illness except for Kanye. Idk just the inner conflict I have had when thinking about this the last couple of days. What I am saying here is that I believe Kanye is antisemitic. Mania just maybe allowed him to verbalize it in a way someone without mental illness might have had the good sense to keep it to themselves. Yes to this. My brother was bi-polar and very much against racial prejudice. If anything, during a manic episode he would be more emboldened to speak out against it. The disease did not cause him to say things against his beliefs.
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Post by LiLi on Oct 26, 2022 15:15:42 GMT
"Let's" start getting *this* angry about all bigotry and racism. Kanye showed his true colors years ago.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 26, 2022 15:19:47 GMT
Yes to this. My brother was bi-polar and very much against racial prejudice. If anything, during a manic episode he would be more emboldened to speak out against it. The disease did not cause him to say things against his beliefs. Me neither. My DD either. My DD is very anti-racist (she's engaged to a black man) and she can blow small things right out of the water when she's manic, including perceived slights against him. I have never seen a bipolar mania episode where something came from nothing.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 26, 2022 15:26:08 GMT
By the way, thanks for listening to me rant tonight ladies. ❤️ It is super to have you back! (If you are back!) Thank you ❤️ I thought I’d sneak back in by commenting on the innocuous induction cooktop thread yesterday morning. Then elaine posted this one and I guess I kinda blew that idea up. 😁
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Oct 26, 2022 15:28:18 GMT
Kayne is the poster boy for unregulated mental illness. I think he's never gotten over losing his mother in that plastic surgery mishap. Does he get a pass, NO F'ING WAY.
Adidas is dead to me. As someone said "silence speaks volumes". The fact that they didn't cut him loose until their profits took a hit shows me where they REALLY stand. I read that the head of Sportify came out denouncing Kayne but they won't remove his music. Then save your breath, regardless of what came out of your mouth, you have shown people where you stand: Profit over people. And as far as I'm concerned by NOT removing his music you're condoning every piece of crap coming out of his mouth.
Every time this POS utters something he's in the news cycle for days/weeks. I mean we're up to page 3 here talking about this human garbage. I hate that he has a platform. He's dangerous. He doesn't care what people are saying, I just think he get super stoked that people are talking about him, making him relevant.
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Post by andreasmom on Oct 26, 2022 15:42:46 GMT
Kayne is the poster boy for unregulated mental illness. I think he's never gotten over losing his mother in that plastic surgery mishap. Does he get a pass, NO F'ING WAY. Adidas is dead to me. As someone said "silence speaks volumes". The fact that they didn't cut him loose until their profits took a hit shows me where they REALLY stand. I read that the head of Sportify came out denouncing Kayne but they won't remove his music. Then save your breath, regardless of what came out of your mouth, you have shown people where you stand: Profit over people. And as far as I'm concerned by NOT removing his music you're condoning every piece of crap coming out of his mouth. Every time this POS utters something he's in the news cycle for days/weeks. I mean we're up to page 3 here talking about this human garbage. I hate that he has a platform. He's dangerous. He doesn't care what people are saying, I just think he get super stoked that people are talking about him, making him relevant. I hate that they all wait until it hits the bottom line. Silence = complicity While I understand the mental illness angle, I agree with all of you, he (or any other person spewing hate speech) does not get a pass on this.
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Post by Ryann on Oct 26, 2022 15:50:10 GMT
When Spotify stood by Joe Rogan, I figured there was zero chance they would drop Kanye. Money wins.
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Post by oh yvonne on Oct 26, 2022 15:56:54 GMT
I agree with almost everything except for the ban him from Spotify part.
IDK as much as I despise Kanye and don't listen to most of his music (I admit I love his gospel album). I don't know that we can really ban artist's music so long as it's not anti semtic itself.
I still listen to the Mamas and the Pappas despite the gross story about what John Phillips did to his daughter Mackenzie. I still love Michael Jackson's music.
As far as videos and movies though, personally I don't want to see them anymore but for some reason for me at least, I'm not averse to hearing their music.
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Post by sabrinae on Oct 26, 2022 16:04:02 GMT
I agree with almost everything except for the ban him from Spotify part. IDK as much as I despise Kanye and don't listen to most of his music (I admit I love his gospel album). I don't know that we can really ban artist's music so long as it's not anti semtic itself. I still listen to the Mamas and the Pappas despite the gross story about what John Phillips did to his daughter Mackenzie. I still love Michael Jackson's music. As far as videos and movies though, personally I don't want to see them anymore but for some reason for me at least, I'm not averse to hearing their music. Your continuing to financially support and enable his behavior every time you listen to his music
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Post by Ryann on Oct 26, 2022 16:07:25 GMT
I agree with almost everything except for the ban him from Spotify part. IDK as much as I despise Kanye and don't listen to most of his music (I admit I love his gospel album). I don't know that we can really ban artist's music so long as it's not anti semtic itself. I still listen to the Mamas and the Pappas despite the gross story about what John Phillips did to his daughter Mackenzie. I still love Michael Jackson's music. As far as videos and movies though, personally I don't want to see them anymore but for some reason for me at least, I'm not averse to hearing their music. For me personally, it's not that I don't like the artistic products of vile people (you can't help what you like!), it's that I'm not okay with financially supporting them, and that is something I have control over. I love Harry Potter but I refuse to support the vile creator. It's the same for me about my favorite band since I was a teen. One of the two founders/singers is a sexual predator. It absolutely gutted me to learn this was who he is. I no longer listen to his solo music, which I love. It sucks, but that's just the way it has to be for me.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 26, 2022 16:23:10 GMT
I agree with almost everything except for the ban him from Spotify part. IDK as much as I despise Kanye and don't listen to most of his music (I admit I love his gospel album). I don't know that we can really ban artist's music so long as it's not anti semtic itself. I still listen to the Mamas and the Pappas despite the gross story about what John Phillips did to his daughter Mackenzie. I still love Michael Jackson's music. As far as videos and movies though, personally I don't want to see them anymore but for some reason for me at least, I'm not averse to hearing their music. Ugh. Never listened to Kanye. Never will. Not into the Mamas and the Papas. I am 3 years younger than MJ. I literally grew up listening to his music. I had his music included in my collection for a long long time. There is no way in hell I’d ever listen to anything by him again. I am pissed (again) that there is a musical on Broadway about him. It makes me feel sick that my 32YO son went to see it and enjoyed it. <——- he knows how I feel. That you’re saying what you’re saying in THIS thread, and apparently have no qualms about sharing, I feel is incredibly disheartening. There’s not a thing anyone can do about, but I have a lot of not nice thoughts about it. ETA: I just went through my notifications and saw that you "liked" many of my posts on this thread, including this one: I want to add one more thing. Not speaking out is part of the problem. Not just us Jews, but everyone. You, and you, and you included. As I said upthread, when businesses make no statements, take no action against anti-Semites, they are condoning the behavior. If you’re shrugging your shoulders and moving on without saying anything, you’re part of the problem. I just read that anti-Semitic activities have increased 34% in the past two years. Last year there were just under 3k anti-Semitic incidents reported in the US. Imagine how many are unreported because the victims are afraid of becoming a larger target? This is absolutely, unacceptable.Off my soapbox. Yeah, I’m pissed.It's incredibly easy to "like" a post and pay lip service to an idea. Put your money where your fingers clicked oh yvonne .
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Post by CardBoxer on Oct 26, 2022 16:32:15 GMT
I agree with almost everything except for the ban him from Spotify part. IDK as much as I despise Kanye and don't listen to most of his music (I admit I love his gospel album). I don't know that we can really ban artist's music so long as it's not anti semtic itself. I still listen to the Mamas and the Pappas despite the gross story about what John Phillips did to his daughter Mackenzie. I still love Michael Jackson's music. As far as videos and movies though, personally I don't want to see them anymore but for some reason for me at least, I'm not averse to hearing their music. Not just Kanye West, but about anyone who spouts vile isms and encourages hate and violence, each of us decides if we are willing to give up a small bit of enjoyment (music, theater, sports) in opposition to that hate. If not, we’re okay with supporting someone financially who is encouraging hate and violence against a minority group. It’s similar to staying silent, I think. “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. The opposite of love is not hate, it’s indifference.” — Elie Wiesel
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Post by oh yvonne on Oct 26, 2022 17:29:24 GMT
I agree with almost everything except for the ban him from Spotify part. IDK as much as I despise Kanye and don't listen to most of his music (I admit I love his gospel album). I don't know that we can really ban artist's music so long as it's not anti semtic itself. I still listen to the Mamas and the Pappas despite the gross story about what John Phillips did to his daughter Mackenzie. I still love Michael Jackson's music. As far as videos and movies though, personally I don't want to see them anymore but for some reason for me at least, I'm not averse to hearing their music. Not just Kanye West, but about anyone who spouts vile isms and encourages hate and violence, each of us decides if we are willing to give up a small bit of enjoyment (music, theater, sports) in opposition to that hate. If not, we’re okay with supporting someone financially who is encouraging hate and violence against a minority group. It’s similar to staying silent, I think. “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. The opposite of love is not hate, it’s indifference.” — Elie Wiesel I'm not saying I'll buy their music or support them by attending concerts, just that I still listen to the music.
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Post by oh yvonne on Oct 26, 2022 17:33:27 GMT
I agree with almost everything except for the ban him from Spotify part. IDK as much as I despise Kanye and don't listen to most of his music (I admit I love his gospel album). I don't know that we can really ban artist's music so long as it's not anti semtic itself. I still listen to the Mamas and the Pappas despite the gross story about what John Phillips did to his daughter Mackenzie. I still love Michael Jackson's music. As far as videos and movies though, personally I don't want to see them anymore but for some reason for me at least, I'm not averse to hearing their music. Ugh. Never listened to Kanye. Never will. Not into the Mamas and the Papas. I am 3 years younger than MJ. I literally grew up listening to his music. I had his music included in my collection for a long long time. There is no way in hell I’d ever listen to anything by him again. I am pissed (again) that there is a musical on Broadway about him. It makes me feel sick that my 32YO son went to see it and enjoyed it. <——- he knows how I feel. That you’re saying what you’re saying in THIS thread, and apparently have no qualms about sharing, I feel is incredibly disheartening. There’s not a thing anyone can do about, but I have a lot of not nice thoughts about it. ETA: I just went through my notifications and saw that you "liked" many of my posts on this thread, including this one: I want to add one more thing. Not speaking out is part of the problem. Not just us Jews, but everyone. You, and you, and you included. As I said upthread, when businesses make no statements, take no action against anti-Semites, they are condoning the behavior. If you’re shrugging your shoulders and moving on without saying anything, you’re part of the problem. I just read that anti-Semitic activities have increased 34% in the past two years. Last year there were just under 3k anti-Semitic incidents reported in the US. Imagine how many are unreported because the victims are afraid of becoming a larger target? This is absolutely, unacceptable.Off my soapbox. Yeah, I’m pissed.It's incredibly easy to "like" a post and pay lip service to an idea. Put your money where your fingers clicked oh yvonne .Ah geeze, sorry I upset you so much. I was mostly just thinking out loud. Obviously you are fired up enough at my post to have dug into my whole posting history here, that's a little weird, IDK why you care about my personal opinion but its fine.
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Post by LiLi on Oct 26, 2022 17:37:39 GMT
ETA: I just went through my notifications and saw that you "liked" many of my posts on this thread, including this one: I want to add one more thing. Not speaking out is part of the problem. Not just us Jews, but everyone. You, and you, and you included. As I said upthread, when businesses make no statements, take no action against anti-Semites, they are condoning the behavior. If you’re shrugging your shoulders and moving on without saying anything, you’re part of the problem. I just read that anti-Semitic activities have increased 34% in the past two years. Last year there were just under 3k anti-Semitic incidents reported in the US. Imagine how many are unreported because the victims are afraid of becoming a larger target? This is absolutely, unacceptable.Off my soapbox. Yeah, I’m pissed.Were you this 'pissed' when he wore a "#whitelivesmatter" shirt or stated that "slavery was a choice"? Because, same/same. He's ALWAYS been a racist bigot.
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Post by papersilly on Oct 26, 2022 17:45:01 GMT
so now there are conspiracy theorists who say that Kanye did all this on purpose so he could get out of contracts with these major retailers and retail his fashion directly. these people say it would have normally been impossible or have taken years to break these contracts but the companies did the work for him when he said that stuff. so now he's a genius for doing this?
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Post by MichyM on Oct 26, 2022 17:45:52 GMT
ETA: I just went through my notifications and saw that you "liked" many of my posts on this thread, including this one: I want to add one more thing. Not speaking out is part of the problem. Not just us Jews, but everyone. You, and you, and you included. As I said upthread, when businesses make no statements, take no action against anti-Semites, they are condoning the behavior. If you’re shrugging your shoulders and moving on without saying anything, you’re part of the problem. I just read that anti-Semitic activities have increased 34% in the past two years. Last year there were just under 3k anti-Semitic incidents reported in the US. Imagine how many are unreported because the victims are afraid of becoming a larger target? This is absolutely, unacceptable.Off my soapbox. Yeah, I’m pissed.Were you this 'pissed' when he wore a "#whitelivesmatter" shirt or stated that "slavery was a choice"? Because, same/same. He's ALWAYS been a racist bigot. Of course. The stunts he's pulled over the years are inexcusable. He's been on my radar for YEARS. It finally reached a tipping point for ME this weekend when he emboldened the actions of the folks on the LA freeway. How about you? Are you a fan? Are you not a fan? Do you speak out against racism/homophobes/anti-Semites and other abhorrent behaviour? Just curious.
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Post by CardBoxer on Oct 26, 2022 17:46:12 GMT
Not just Kanye West, but about anyone who spouts vile isms and encourages hate and violence, each of us decides if we are willing to give up a small bit of enjoyment (music, theater, sports) in opposition to that hate. If not, we’re okay with supporting someone financially who is encouraging hate and violence against a minority group. It’s similar to staying silent, I think. “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. The opposite of love is not hate, it’s indifference.” — Elie Wiesel I'm not saying I'll buy their music or support them by attending concerts, just that I still listen to the music. I understand, and wished I hadn’t quoted you, actually, since while you sparked my thinking about it, I think it’s something everyone could ask themselves: what are we willing to give up to stand against hate toward minority groups? I don’t know Spotify’s formula—if musicians whose songs are on Spotify get $$ every time their songs are played. If so it’s something to think about. Spotify is keeping his music despite pushback. I don’t have their paid subscription but if I did I’d cut bait and tell them why. Unfortunately some companies and people only stand up against hate if their bottom line is affected. Like Adidas. I’m very glad they ditched him but they waited too long to convince me they have scruples.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 26, 2022 17:48:04 GMT
Ugh. Never listened to Kanye. Never will. Not into the Mamas and the Papas. I am 3 years younger than MJ. I literally grew up listening to his music. I had his music included in my collection for a long long time. There is no way in hell I’d ever listen to anything by him again. I am pissed (again) that there is a musical on Broadway about him. It makes me feel sick that my 32YO son went to see it and enjoyed it. <——- he knows how I feel. That you’re saying what you’re saying in THIS thread, and apparently have no qualms about sharing, I feel is incredibly disheartening. There’s not a thing anyone can do about, but I have a lot of not nice thoughts about it. ETA: I just went through my notifications and saw that you "liked" many of my posts on this thread, including this one: I want to add one more thing. Not speaking out is part of the problem. Not just us Jews, but everyone. You, and you, and you included. As I said upthread, when businesses make no statements, take no action against anti-Semites, they are condoning the behavior. If you’re shrugging your shoulders and moving on without saying anything, you’re part of the problem. I just read that anti-Semitic activities have increased 34% in the past two years. Last year there were just under 3k anti-Semitic incidents reported in the US. Imagine how many are unreported because the victims are afraid of becoming a larger target? This is absolutely, unacceptable.Off my soapbox. Yeah, I’m pissed.It's incredibly easy to "like" a post and pay lip service to an idea. Put your money where your fingers clicked oh yvonne .Ah geeze, sorry I upset you so much. I was mostly just thinking out loud. Obviously you are fired up enough at my post to have dug into my whole posting history here, that's a little weird, IDK why you care about my personal opinion but its fine. What are you talking about? I looked into no posting history, let alone yours. I looked at my notifications (you know, those numbers at the top of the screen) and saw that you liked almost all my posts on this topic. Yet, you posted what you did. I feel a serious lack of substance here with you. Per usual.
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Post by oh yvonne on Oct 26, 2022 17:49:18 GMT
I'm not saying I'll buy their music or support them by attending concerts, just that I still listen to the music. I understand, and wished I hadn’t quoted you, actually, since while you sparked my thinking about it, I think it’s something everyone could ask themselves: what are we willing to give up to stand against hate toward minority groups? I don’t know Spotify’s formula—if musicians whose songs are on Spotify get $$ every time their songs are played. If so it’s something to think about. Spotify is keeping his music despite pushback. I don’t have their paid subscription but if I did I’d cut bait and tell them why. Unfortunately some companies and people only stand up against hate if their bottom line is affected. Like Adidas. I’m very glad they ditched him but they waited too long to convince me they have scruples. yeah, I don't use Spotify so it's not an issue for me with that either. Its definitely something to think about.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 26, 2022 17:49:51 GMT
I'm not saying I'll buy their music or support them by attending concerts, just that I still listen to the music. I understand, and wished I hadn’t quoted you, actually, since while you sparked my thinking about it, I think it’s something everyone could ask themselves: what are we willing to give up to stand against hate toward minority groups? I don’t know Spotify’s formula—if musicians whose songs are on Spotify get $$ every time their songs are played. If so it’s something to think about. Spotify is keeping his music despite pushback. I don’t have their paid subscription but if I did I’d cut bait and tell them why. Unfortunately some companies and people only stand up against hate if their bottom line is affected. Like Adidas. I’m very glad they ditched him but they waited too long to convince me they have scruples. They get paid every time a track of theirs is played. So listening to the on any streaming service supports them financially.
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