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Post by imkat on Jan 14, 2023 10:51:24 GMT
I know they can launch a bunch of investigations to try to smear people and institutions. I know they can decline to raise the debt ceiling without major concessions. Both could be very impactful.
But what else can they do that can’t be voted down by the democratic majority in the Senate or vetoed by the president?
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 14, 2023 11:24:54 GMT
These dumbasses are playing with fire:
House Republicans are preparing a plan telling the Treasury Department what to do if Congress and the White House don’t agree to lift the nation’s debt limit later this year, underscoring the brinkmanship newly empowered conservatives will bring to the high-stakes negotiations over averting a U.S. default, according to six people aware of the internal discussions.
The plan, which was previously unreported, was part of the private deal reached this month to resolve the standoff between House conservatives and Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) over the election of a House speaker.
Rep. Chip Roy (R-Tex.), a leading conservative who helped broker the deal, told The Washington Post that McCarthy agreed to pass a payment prioritization plan by the end of the first quarter of the year.
The emerging contingency plan shows how Republicans are preparing to threaten to not lift the nation’s debt ceiling without major spending cuts from the Biden administration. Congress must pass a law raising the current limit of $31.4 trillion or the Treasury Department can’t borrow anymore, even to pay for spending lawmakers have already authorized. Economists warn that not raising the debt limit could cause the United States to default, sparking a major panic on Wall Street and leading to millions of job losses.
Treasury Secretary Janet L. Yellen said Friday said that the Treasury Department will begin “extraordinary measures” next week to ensure the federal government is able to meet its payment obligations but that it cannot guarantee the United States will make it beyond early June without defaulting. White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre reiterated Friday that the administration will not negotiate over the debt ceiling.
Treasury Department aides declined to comment on the GOP plan, and a spokesman for McCarthy did not return requests for comment.
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Post by pyccku on Jan 14, 2023 12:56:50 GMT
Economists warn that not raising the debt limit could cause the United States to default, sparking a major panic on Wall Street and leading to millions of job losses. And when they do that, they will say "Look at what Biden did! You lost your job/401K because of Biden's leadership!" And half of Americans will accept that explanation hook, line and sinker.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 14, 2023 13:24:51 GMT
Economists warn that not raising the debt limit could cause the United States to default, sparking a major panic on Wall Street and leading to millions of job losses. And when they do that, they will say "Look at what Biden did! You lost your job/401K because of Biden's leadership!" And half of Americans will accept that explanation hook, line and sinker. It is profoundly depressing to me that so many gullible people believe that 1)Hunter Biden is important and 2) that the House Republicans know what they’re doing. And it’s true; if they blow our credit rating to hell they will play victim and say that they were the honest brokers. There is nothing honest about them.
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Post by cindosha on Jan 14, 2023 13:44:58 GMT
Economists warn that not raising the debt limit could cause the United States to default, sparking a major panic on Wall Street and leading to millions of job losses. And when they do that, they will say "Look at what Biden did! You lost your job/401K because of Biden's leadership!" And half of Americans will accept that explanation hook, line and sinker.You mean like half of the Americans that accepted the now crumbling “science“ that covid jabs would prevent infection, transmission and death if you get covid? Or half the Americans who believe that healthy people dropping dead is just a coincidence? Some people will believe everything that politicians/media spoon feed them. Perhaps the fact that we even have a 31 trillion debt (grown by 5 trillion in 2 years) is a result of gross financial mismanagement by this current administration. You lost your job/401K because of “ Biden's leadership!” That is a complete oxymoron IMO. We are not led by him.
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Post by hop2 on Jan 14, 2023 15:00:51 GMT
Well, maybe the several trillion dollar Trump tax cut for billionaires wasn’t a fantastic idea. I haven’t see any of that ‘trickle down’ one iota and it’s been 5 years. Where’s the trickle down?
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Post by hop2 on Jan 14, 2023 15:09:12 GMT
Also, this shit is a game to them, keep an eye on what stocks these assholes buy & buy some yourself, they aren’t going to trash their own investments. They know what we don’t know.
I think all House & Senate stock trade should be public, LIVE, as they happen, not days/weeks later when they feel like reporting it. It would cut down on half this insider info trading bullshit. Either that or anyone who pays attention would be as rich as they are. 🤷♀️
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Post by cindosha on Jan 14, 2023 15:18:05 GMT
Also, this shit is a game to them, keep an eye on what stocks these assholes buy & buy some yourself, they aren’t going to trash their own investments. They know what we don’t know. I think all House & Senate stock trade should be public, LIVE, as they happen, not days/weeks later when they feel like reporting it. It would cut down on half this insider info trading bullshit. Either that or anyone who pays attention would be as rich as they are. 🤷♀️ Keep an eye on pelosi. She has the inside on stock buying and trading.
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Post by hop2 on Jan 14, 2023 15:22:31 GMT
Also, this shit is a game to them, keep an eye on what stocks these assholes buy & buy some yourself, they aren’t going to trash their own investments. They know what we don’t know. I think all House & Senate stock trade should be public, LIVE, as they happen, not days/weeks later when they feel like reporting it. It would cut down on half this insider info trading bullshit. Either that or anyone who pays attention would be as rich as they are. 🤷♀️ Keep an eye on pelosi. She has the inside on stock buying and trading. McConnel hasn’t suffered many losses either. And for instance, why is tuberville buy & selling & buying & selling PayPal all in the same day. Something is going down as several of them ditched things like GE PG & Qcom Friday but here’s Tuberville buying & selling PayPal over & over weird stuff. And well yeah they ditched Disney too but unless you’re under a rock that should be obvious.
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Post by cindosha on Jan 14, 2023 15:27:44 GMT
And when they do that, they will say "Look at what Biden did! You lost your job/401K because of Biden's leadership!" And half of Americans will accept that explanation hook, line and sinker. It is profoundly depressing to me that so many gullible people believe that 1)Hunter Biden is important and 2) that the House Republicans know what they’re doing. And it’s true; if they blow our credit rating to hell they will play victim and say that they were the honest brokers. There is nothing honest about them.It is profoundly depressing to me there’s so many gullible people who are ok with members of Congress being multimillionaires. Their salaries don’t make them millionaires. But they’re insider trading and being paid off probably does. Hunter Biden is not important. But what he did in connections that he had to China and Ukraine definitely are. And now the fact that he has had close proximity to classified documents. The house is going to clean house. And IMO, that’s a good thing.
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Post by Merge on Jan 14, 2023 15:35:01 GMT
To answer the OP, this house can’t do anything. They’ve proven that already with their ridiculous clown show of a speaker election. The treason caucus folks will torpedo every legislative effort that isn’t solely focused on their priorities (Omg we’re suddenly concerned about the debt after giving all those tax breaks to billionaires! Omg American businesses can’t find the workers they need but let’s also end immigration of working class people who need jobs! Omg let’s end social security and Medicare for anyone who hasn’t yet reached retirement age because they tend not to vote for us anyway!)
Then next two years will be a pathetic display of the American experiment in decline, and then Ron DeSantis will be elected and use his new found love for the power of the state to impose Christian nationalism on the whole country. Yayyyyy.
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 14, 2023 15:46:38 GMT
The house is going to clean house. And IMO, that’s a good thing. 😂 😂😂Thank you, I always like to start the day with a good laugh!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 14, 2023 16:03:01 GMT
The house is going to clean house. And IMO, that’s a good thing. 😂 😂😂Thank you, I always like to start the day with a good laugh! Me too!!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 14, 2023 16:07:34 GMT
It is profoundly depressing to me that so many gullible people believe that 1)Hunter Biden is important and 2) that the House Republicans know what they’re doing. And it’s true; if they blow our credit rating to hell they will play victim and say that they were the honest brokers. There is nothing honest about them. It is profoundly depressing to me there’s so many gullible people who are ok with members of Congress being multimillionaires. Their salaries don’t make them millionaires. But they’re insider trading and being paid off probably does. Hunter Biden is not important. But what he did in connections that he had to China and Ukraine definitely are. And now the fact that he has had close proximity to classified documents. The house is going to clean house. And IMO, that’s a good thing. You mean like Ron Johnson? 🤔
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jan 14, 2023 16:08:23 GMT
Basically for the next 2 yrs the house will be a lame duck PITA. They won't be able to do anything, yet they will complain and bitch and moan about it for 2 yrs. What a mess
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 14, 2023 16:10:18 GMT
It is profoundly depressing to me that so many gullible people believe that 1)Hunter Biden is important and 2) that the House Republicans know what they’re doing. And it’s true; if they blow our credit rating to hell they will play victim and say that they were the honest brokers. There is nothing honest about them. It is profoundly depressing to me there’s so many gullible people who are ok with members of Congress being multimillionaires. Their salaries don’t make them millionaires. But they’re insider trading and being paid off probably does. Hunter Biden is not important. But what he did in connections that he had to China and Ukraine definitely are. And now the fact that he has had close proximity to classified documents. The house is going to clean house. And IMO, that’s a good thing. We’ll see. I have several predictions. For sure there will be plenty of meaningless kangaroo courts investigating important things like…Hunter Biden. The GOP will be braying for the cameras, and will accomplish nothing meaningful.
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Post by paulao on Jan 14, 2023 16:23:39 GMT
My other wise intelligent brother in law truly believes Hunter Biden’s laptop is carrying top seekret information that will lead to the fall of the U.S. of A.
The House will do nothing about anything except attempt to fuck things up.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jan 14, 2023 16:41:53 GMT
The house is going to clean house. And IMO, that’s a good thing. How do you think they are going to do that? !! They can't even nominate a speaker, OR get rid of a blatant liar. Yea. The house is just a joke for the next 2 yrs. But please explain to me, how they will "clean house"??
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Post by hop2 on Jan 14, 2023 16:51:15 GMT
It is profoundly depressing to me that so many gullible people believe that 1)Hunter Biden is important and 2) that the House Republicans know what they’re doing. And it’s true; if they blow our credit rating to hell they will play victim and say that they were the honest brokers. There is nothing honest about them. It is profoundly depressing to me there’s so many gullible people who are ok with members of Congress being multimillionaires. Their salaries don’t make them millionaires. But they’re insider trading and being paid off probably does. Hunter Biden is not important. But what he did in connections that he had to China and Ukraine definitely are. And now the fact that he has had close proximity to classified documents. The house is going to clean house. And IMO, that’s a good thing. By gutting the house ethics they’re gonna clean house? Ha ha ha ha ha lmao Nah, they are clearing the way to enrich themselves without consequences. It’s not like they have any useful alternative they’ll be putting in place. How the heck do you get cleaning the house without ethics?
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Post by elaine on Jan 14, 2023 17:07:52 GMT
By threatening to refuse the debt ceiling, the GOP demonstrates AS USUAL that they don’t give a shit about the military and veterans. We won’t receive our retirement, disability benefits, and our pharmacies won’t be able to purchase medication to stock our pharmacies if the debt ceiling isn’t raised. Active Duty military may not receive paychecks.
And we have seen on this thread that the right wing thinks that is a good thing. 🤮
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 14, 2023 17:19:54 GMT
It will affect all federal pensions, medical care, just about everything, including our military. But that's ok for the GOP.
*** Besides showing the full security tapes from Jan 6.. all escape routes, where they went for safety. All the ins and outs. Yay House, good job McCarthy... Boo hisss...
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Post by sideways on Jan 14, 2023 17:41:51 GMT
What can they do? They’ll throw sand in the gears of every facet of government that they can and when the damage shows itself, they’ll blame Democrats.
It’s all about harnessing power for a select few by any means necessary. Everyone and everything else be damned. That’s it in a nutshell.
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Post by purplebee on Jan 14, 2023 17:58:09 GMT
We are fast becoming the laughingstock of the world thanks to the GQP, even more so after the SOH debacle which almost ended in a televised fistfight between Republicans. So classy, so honest, so self-sacrificing for the good of all the citizens of the USA. What a complete collection of grifting, corrupt, greedy jerks. And STiLL being manipulated by the biggest grifter of all, who is an ex-POTUS of the US! And then there’s the Santos situation….
The sad - and mind-blowing - aspect of this mess is that the House sideshow will only get worse.
Yeah, they likely won’t be able to actually do anything constructive, but will certainly gain the attention of global media. What a total and utter clusterf*ck.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 21:29:37 GMT
It is profoundly depressing to me that so many gullible people believe that 1)Hunter Biden is important and 2) that the House Republicans know what they’re doing. And it’s true; if they blow our credit rating to hell they will play victim and say that they were the honest brokers. There is nothing honest about them. It is profoundly depressing to me there’s so many gullible people who are ok with members of Congress being multimillionaires. Their salaries don’t make them millionaires. But they’re insider trading and being paid off probably does. Hunter Biden is not important. But what he did in connections that he had to China and Ukraine definitely are. And now the fact that he has had close proximity to classified documents. The house is going to clean house. And IMO, that’s a good thing. Why don't they start with removing serial liar George Santos? A person like that is the last person who should be protecting anyone's 'house' - literally or figuratively.
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Post by casii on Jan 14, 2023 22:56:21 GMT
It is profoundly depressing to me there’s so many gullible people who are ok with members of Congress being multimillionaires. Their salaries don’t make them millionaires. But they’re insider trading and being paid off probably does. Hunter Biden is not important. But what he did in connections that he had to China and Ukraine definitely are. And now the fact that he has had close proximity to classified documents. The house is going to clean house. And IMO, that’s a good thing. Why don't they start with removing serial liar George Santos? A person like that is the last person who should be protecting anyone's 'house' - literally or figuratively. Agreed. With serial liar Santos, it is one more confirmation that the GOP are not interested in governing.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 14, 2023 23:00:57 GMT
No one even know WHO Santos is... Is his name really Santos? We know nothing about him except he lies about everything.... And the GOP will put him on committees and allow him access to sensitive documents..
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 14, 2023 23:08:27 GMT
Why don't they start with removing serial liar George Santos? A person like that is the last person who should be protecting anyone's 'house' - literally or figuratively. Agreed. With serial liar Santos, it is one more confirmation that the GOP are not interested in governing. And it’s so interesting that they basically neutered the Office of Congressional Ethics-which Santos approves of, by the way. Now why would House Republicans want to defang the Office of Ethics? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 It’s a mystery. 🥴👀
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Post by cindosha on Jan 14, 2023 23:20:29 GMT
It is profoundly depressing to me there’s so many gullible people who are ok with members of Congress being multimillionaires. Their salaries don’t make them millionaires. But they’re insider trading and being paid off probably does. Hunter Biden is not important. But what he did in connections that he had to China and Ukraine definitely are. And now the fact that he has had close proximity to classified documents. The house is going to clean house. And IMO, that’s a good thing. Why don't they start with removing serial liar George Santos? A person like that is the last person who should be protecting anyone's 'house' - literally or figuratively. I don’t know anything about George santos but if he needs to go then he needs to go, along with every other liar in the house or senate and politics in general….but…who would remain in congress???
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Post by elaine on Jan 14, 2023 23:34:07 GMT
Why don't they start with removing serial liar George Santos? A person like that is the last person who should be protecting anyone's 'house' - literally or figuratively. I don’t know anything about George santos but if he needs to go then he needs to go, along with every other liar in the house or senate and politics in general….but…who would remain in congress??? Do you live on a remote island without any news coverage? How could anyone who minimally follows the news know nothing about Santos? Why should anyone take your opinion on anything political seriously if you honestly don’t know anything about the biggest story of the 2022 election? (Personally, I think you are lying because you don’t want to have to answer the question honestly due to what it means about the GOP. If not, that you choose to wade in and contribute to political threads is frightening.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 23:37:03 GMT
Why don't they start with removing serial liar George Santos? A person like that is the last person who should be protecting anyone's 'house' - literally or figuratively. I don’t know anything about George santos but if he needs to go then he needs to go, along with every other liar in the house or senate and politics in general….but…who would remain in congress??? it's comments like that, that make me wonder if you really should be commenting on anything political if you're missing one of the biggest stories in politics this month Sure, you are entitled to comment on anything, but I just feel you're coming in with a deck full of 2's and 3's in your card pack. You're not going to get rid of liars. Lots of people lie in this life. But my god, even I can keep my facts straight on whether my mother is dead or alive. NOTE: posted the same time as Elaine so repeated the same points.
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