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Post by leannec on Jan 20, 2015 16:28:31 GMT
I'll be seeing "American Sniper" on Saturday night with my ladies meetup.com group ... They voted for it  I'll admit that I'm a bit nervous because "Platoon" and "Saving Private Ryan" both really stuck with me for a long time  Have you seen "American Sniper"? What did you think about it? *** Update: I saw the film last night and we all thought it was really good ... as Canadians, I realize that we don't come at it from the same point of view as many of you ... I appreciate everyone's input  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 16:43:34 GMT
I have seen it. It was good, but honestly I was expecting better from all the hype. Don't get me wrong, Bradley Cooper was fantastic. And since it was a true story I enjoyed it even more. Just my honest opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 16:49:06 GMT
We saw it this weekend and really liked it. I've heard that some people find it to be "Patriot Porn," but I just thought it was an intense, well-done movie. I was on the edge of my seat for the entire film.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 16:49:42 GMT
It was good - intense at times, slow moving at others. Bradley Cooper is great in it but I wish there was more about the time when he was home - the relationship with the wife and kids.
I didn't know it was a true story therefore didn't know the ending. That was a shocker to me.
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Post by loco coco on Jan 20, 2015 16:52:49 GMT
yes I thought it was really good, Bradley Cooper was amazing. Our audience clapped and then it was complete silence as everyone walked out, Ive never experienced that.
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Post by Aheartfeltcard on Jan 20, 2015 16:54:31 GMT
I thought it was a fantastic movie. It was well done and I love what Clint Eastwood did at the end of the movie. Kyle was a true patriot and I think this movie is the perfect tribute to him.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jan 20, 2015 16:54:31 GMT
I read an article that said the wife told the screen writer to (paraphrasing) "get it right, this is how our children will remember their father." I thought that was pretty powerful.
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Post by conchita on Jan 20, 2015 16:57:51 GMT
I was very familiar with Chris's story before the movie. It's a movie, so it only encapsulates a brief glimpse into his life. But what they managed to capture was spot on and a great tribute to his life and service.
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Post by River on Jan 20, 2015 17:01:33 GMT
We saw it this weekend. All 3 of my boys loved it and had tons of questions after the movie. I really like it and thought Bradley Cooper was perfect for the part. I wasn't prepared for the intense emotions this move brought out in me though, so I'm not sure I could watch it again. That being said, I recommend for everyone to see it.
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Post by M~ on Jan 20, 2015 17:02:21 GMT
I can't wait to see it!
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Post by 2peaornot2pea on Jan 20, 2015 17:10:19 GMT
We saw it. The movie is well done but I can understand why some people might call it patriot porn. The majority of the movie focuses on the time he spends in the war zone. Maybe fifteen minutes of the movie is devoted to his marital relationship and the time he spent at home, between tours. He had PTSD and worked to overcome it but that wasn't explored in depth in the film.
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Post by pretzels on Jan 20, 2015 17:23:46 GMT
I am currently reading the book. I have no doubt that the man is a patriot and served his country well, but his behavior upon his return to the states bothers me. I have a hard separating that from his service. When he got back after he served, he either was a supreme asshole or he is a liar. I'm not gung-ho on either option. Not that his family or anyone else cares about my opinion.
I saw "Unbroken" on Sunday night (I read the book when it first came out), and the difference between these two people and how they reacted to their personal traumas is just staggering. It wasn't directly addressed in the movie (other than to mention that he did suffer from PTSD), but I seem to remember that Louis became an alcoholic and his marriage suffered for it. He eventually got it together, though. I don't know that Kyle ever did, but then again, he died in a sudden, tragic manner, so maybe he didn't have the chance.
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Post by gina on Jan 20, 2015 17:28:19 GMT
Great movie! Hated the ending (NOT how the movie did it. I just hated Chris Kyle's real-life ending). Very powerful film. |
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Post by gina on Jan 20, 2015 17:30:42 GMT
I did NOT get a "patriot porn" vibe at all. Yuck. I liked how they weaved his home life in here and there between big chunks of war. I thought it painted a realistic picture (as far as I can tell, never having served myself).
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Post by myshelly on Jan 20, 2015 17:31:03 GMT
I think Chris Kyle was a very disturbed person who chose to be a sniper because he liked to kill, not because he was a patriot and I don't think we should glorify him.
I'm in the Seth Rogan camp about this movie.
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Post by conchita on Jan 20, 2015 17:34:29 GMT
I am currently reading the book. I have no doubt that the man is a patriot and served his country well, but his behavior upon his return to the states bothers me. I have a hard separating that from his service. When he got back after he served, he either was a supreme asshole or he is a liar. I'm not gung-ho on either option. Not that his family or anyone else cares about my opinion. I saw "Unbroken" on Sunday night (I read the book when it first came out), and the difference between these two people and how they reacted to their personal traumas is just staggering. It wasn't directly addressed in the movie (other than to mention that he did suffer from PTSD), but I seem to remember that Louis became an alcoholic and his marriage suffered for it. He eventually got it together, though. I don't know that Kyle ever did, but then again, he died in a sudden, tragic manner, so maybe he didn't have the chance. Just curious, do you know anyone who has returned from serving in the war? It's not talked about a lot, but the time prior to deployment and the time when a soldier returns home is incredibly difficult (understatement) on the soldier and his family. Many of our guys have served back to back tours. Some guys deploy for six months, others nine months and it used to be 15 months until a couple years back. It's a long time to be in a war zone. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jan 20, 2015 17:43:39 GMT
I did NOT get a "patriot porn" vibe at all. Yuck. I liked how they weaved his home life in here and there between big chunks of war. I thought it painted a realistic picture (as far as I can tell, never having served myself). Thank you Many people don't understand what patriotism means to someone in the military. Because they have signed their life over to the military it's deeper for them. They eat, sleep, breathe patriotism differently then just an average Joe that lives a free life in the states. The men and women of the military are owned by the military during their time in the service. It's a different mindset then what the general public has of being a patriot. I know there is no way to convince some people of the differences or how to explain it. But it tends to be different for most members of our military. |
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Post by amom23 on Jan 20, 2015 17:47:24 GMT
Saw it this past weekend and thought it was one of the best movies I've seen in a really long time.
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Post by blue tulip on Jan 20, 2015 17:48:57 GMT
Dh and I liked it a lot. there will definitely be moments that stay with you, as you said you had with similar movies.
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Post by blue tulip on Jan 20, 2015 17:51:47 GMT
yes I thought it was really good, Bradley Cooper was amazing. Our audience clapped and then it was complete silence as everyone walked out, Ive never experienced that. no clapping, but also complete silence in our movie theater. we saw it on opening night, and it was packed. I was sitting next to 2 veterans in their early 30s or so, they would comment to each other "oh yeah, don't miss that" or "remember those?" type things. it really made it all the more real. |
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Post by alibama on Jan 20, 2015 17:51:52 GMT
I think it was an outstanding movie! A true patriot. I have never been too a movie where it was completely silent at the end. The credits started to roll people stayed in their seats and nobody spoke. It was an incredible movie.
I don't think Chris Kelly was a sniper because he liked to kill people, more like he loved his country and choose to be one of those brave ones that defend this awesome country we live in.
Very powerful movie.
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Post by conchita on Jan 20, 2015 18:01:11 GMT
I did NOT get a "patriot porn" vibe at all. Yuck. I liked how they weaved his home life in here and there between big chunks of war. I thought it painted a realistic picture (as far as I can tell, never having served myself). Thank you Many people don't understand what patriotism means to someone in the military. Because they have signed their life over to the military it's deeper for them. They eat, sleep, breathe patriotism differently then just an average Joe that lives a free life in the states. The men and women of the military are owned by the military during their time in the service. It's a different mindset then what the general public has of being a patriot. I know there is no way to convince some people of the differences or how to explain it. But it tends to be different for most members of our military. Thank you for writing this. "Patriot porn" is incredibly offensive and it insinuates there is shame in being patriotic. Our men and women serve out of love for our country and their families. Hearing it scoffed at, the way a few in Hollywood are doing now, is an American freedom they benefit from because of those they hold in such low esteem. |
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Post by myshelly on Jan 20, 2015 18:01:59 GMT
I think it was an outstanding movie! A true patriot. I have never been too a movie where it was completely silent at the end. The credits started to roll people stayed in their seats and nobody spoke. It was an incredible movie. I don't think Chris Kelly was a sniper because he liked to kill people, more like he loved his country and choose to be one of those brave ones that defend this awesome country we live in. Very powerful movie. That's exactly what the movie wants you to think. But if you read statements he actually made himself he comes across completely differently. That's why I have a huge problem with this movie - people are basing their opinion in this military propaganda piece and not investigating the truth about this man. People would rather believe he's a superhero bc that's the easy thing to believe. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 18:12:04 GMT
I can also say that it's been a long time since I've felt shell-shocked at the end of a movie. I didn't know the story of Chris Kyle so I didn't know how it ended. DH and I both had tears in our eyes as we left the theater. We met friends for drinks who were going to see the late showing of the movie and they were like "what is wrong with you guys?" We're like.. just wait! So regardless of anything else, it was impactful. It felt like a really long episode of Homeland. Very intense.
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Post by jmd74 on Jan 20, 2015 18:25:27 GMT
I think it was an outstanding movie! A true patriot. I have never been too a movie where it was completely silent at the end. The credits started to roll people stayed in their seats and nobody spoke. It was an incredible movie. I don't think Chris Kelly was a sniper because he liked to kill people, more like he loved his country and choose to be one of those brave ones that defend this awesome country we live in. Very powerful movie. That's exactly what the movie wants you to think. But if you read statements he actually made himself he comes across completely differently. That's why I have a huge problem with this movie - people are basing their opinion in this military propaganda piece and not investigating the truth about this man. People would rather believe he's a superhero bc that's the easy thing to believe. What is the "truth"? I am sorry you think this is a military propaganda piece. I see it as the story of a Navy Seal sniper who suffered emotionally and had PTSD because of some things he had seen and done over "there". Did he say he wishes he had killed more? He sure did. Of course they left out the part where he said enemy but instead inserted Iraqi. I just dont understand why some people are trying to vilify this man. |
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Post by alibama on Jan 20, 2015 18:28:52 GMT
I think it was an outstanding movie! A true patriot. I have never been too a movie where it was completely silent at the end. The credits started to roll people stayed in their seats and nobody spoke. It was an incredible movie. I don't think Chris Kelly was a sniper because he liked to kill people, more like he loved his country and choose to be one of those brave ones that defend this awesome country we live in. Very powerful movie. That's exactly what the movie wants you to think. But if you read statements he actually made himself he comes across completely differently. That's why I have a huge problem with this movie - people are basing their opinion in this military propaganda piece and not investigating the truth about this man. People would rather believe he's a superhero bc that's the easy thing to believe. You believe what you want you will not change my mind and I am not going to argue about it. |
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Post by conchita on Jan 20, 2015 18:32:26 GMT
I think it was an outstanding movie! A true patriot. I have never been too a movie where it was completely silent at the end. The credits started to roll people stayed in their seats and nobody spoke. It was an incredible movie. I don't think Chris Kelly was a sniper because he liked to kill people, more like he loved his country and choose to be one of those brave ones that defend this awesome country we live in. Very powerful movie. That's exactly what the movie wants you to think. But if you read statements he actually made himself he comes across completely differently. That's why I have a huge problem with this movie - people are basing their opinion in this military propaganda piece and not investigating the truth about this man. People would rather believe he's a superhero bc that's the easy thing to believe. Myshelly, you'll definitely want to skip seeing this movie. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 18:32:56 GMT
I am not coming down on either side, but this is a piece that explains the issues some have with Kyle. link |
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Post by myshelly on Jan 20, 2015 18:40:11 GMT
That's exactly what the movie wants you to think. But if you read statements he actually made himself he comes across completely differently. That's why I have a huge problem with this movie - people are basing their opinion in this military propaganda piece and not investigating the truth about this man. People would rather believe he's a superhero bc that's the easy thing to believe. You believe what you want you will not change my mind and I am not going to argue about it. But have you ever done any research about the actual man or are you basing your opinion on the movie. That's the problem I have. The vast majority of people praising this movie are doing so with no actual knowledge of anything beyond the movie. I think it's very simplistic to see him as any kind of hero. That kind of simple mindedness is America's biggest problem. |
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Post by conchita on Jan 20, 2015 18:59:42 GMT
You believe what you want you will not change my mind and I am not going to argue about it. But have you ever done any research about the actual man or are you basing your opinion on the movie. That's the problem I have. The vast majority of people praising this movie are doing so with no actual knowledge of anything beyond the movie. I think it's very simplistic to see him as any kind of hero. That kind of simple mindedness is America's biggest problem. I've never served in the war. But I know many men and women who have. And I'm very familiar with Chris's story. It isn't unusual that their selfless service done while deployed is often contradicted by their assholish actions when they return back home. To completely discount and discredit a veteran's or active duty soldier's service because they've said some controversial things or acted out dishonorably is something that those who have no idea what war can to do a person do. |
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