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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 19:33:40 GMT
link The 11 Judge Panel 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals said today people do not have the right to carry concealed weapons in public under the 2nd Amendment. They said law enforcement officials can require applicants for a concealed weapons permits to show they are in immediate danger or have another good reason for a permit beyond self-defense. Wow! This will end up in the Supreme Court. So I'm going to make my version of a PSA to Democrats including Bernie Sanders supporters. This ruling is one reason why it's important to come together and make sure Hillary becomes president. Supreme Court appointments.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 19:40:08 GMT
it's important to come together and make sure Hillary becomes president.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 19:55:52 GMT
it's important to come together and make sure Hillary becomes president. My my aren't we being cute. It's to be expected. However it doesn't take away what the 9th Circuit Appeals Court ruled today is a good thing. A very good thing. |
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 9, 2016 21:08:41 GMT
I don't understand why concealed carrying is a problem. So now they open carry. Does that make you feel better?
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Jun 9, 2016 21:09:50 GMT
I like open carry better personally
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 9, 2016 21:11:22 GMT
I like open carry better personally |
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Jun 9, 2016 21:14:34 GMT
I like open carry better personally But then you miss out on the fun guy at the gas station wearing pearl handled revolvers in old western holsters  actually happened in AZ lol. He was a daily customer so I would see him once a week when I filled up with gas lol. I don't think this will be upheld because you run into severe constitutional issues. It says right to keep and bear arms. If you take away concealed, you only leave open carry. But I guess the point of the OP is that this could be the way to strike down the ability for the average joe to carry period. Im just guessing though, I could be wrong. |
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 9, 2016 21:19:36 GMT
I don't because then flaky people are all scared and sh!t. With concealed you don't have the drama. But then you miss out on the fun guy at the gas station wearing pearl handled revolvers in old western holsters actually happened in AZ lol. He was a daily customer so I would see him once a week when I filled up with gas lol. I don't think this will be upheld because you run into severe constitutional issues. It says right to keep and bear arms. If you take away concealed, you only leave open carry. But I guess the point of the OP is that this could be the way to strike down the ability for the average joe to carry period. Im just guessing though, I could be wrong. |
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Post by Peamac on Jun 9, 2016 21:22:24 GMT
I'll let my new son-in-law know- he wore one of his guns to IHOP yesterday for breakfast.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 21:23:50 GMT
Maybe instead of trying to get caught up in a battle over concealed or open carry, or using this as a means to try and strike down the ability for the average joe to carry, maybe the Democrats could come up with some common sense regulations designed to make it harder for stupid, crazy, or violent people to own guns?
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 9, 2016 21:33:19 GMT
Maybe instead of trying to get caught up in a battle over concealed or open carry, or using this as a means to try and strike down the ability for the average joe to carry, maybe the Democrats could come up with some common sense regulations designed to make it harder for stupid, crazy, or violent people to own guns?
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Jun 9, 2016 21:39:57 GMT
5/11 tactical. I got one from a friend of mine and I like it. Its big but breaks down into a smaller one. Plus they support Law Enforcement so thats a big deal in my book. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 9, 2016 21:56:25 GMT
Maybe instead of trying to get caught up in a battle over concealed or open carry, or using this as a means to try and strike down the ability for the average joe to carry, maybe the Democrats could come up with some common sense regulations designed to make it harder for stupid, crazy, or violent people to own guns? Well if the republicans would stop squashing bills that make it harder for bad guys to get guns... |
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 9, 2016 22:00:06 GMT
Maybe instead of trying to get caught up in a battle over concealed or open carry, or using this as a means to try and strike down the ability for the average joe to carry, maybe the Democrats could come up with some common sense regulations designed to make it harder for stupid, crazy, or violent people to own guns? Well if the republicans would stop squashing bills that make it harder for bad guys to get guns... They squash them because some democrats was to make it harder/illegal for everybody to get guns. Slippery slope and all. |
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Post by carhoch on Jun 9, 2016 22:07:35 GMT
Well if the republicans would stop squashing bills that make it harder for bad guys to get guns... They squash them because some democrats was to make it harder/illegal for everybody to get guns. Slippery slope and all. Personally I think it should be much harder to get a gun ,not impossible but much harder. |
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 9, 2016 22:08:28 GMT
5/11 tactical. I got one from a friend of mine and I like it. Its big but breaks down into a smaller one. Plus they support Law Enforcement so thats a big deal in my book.  |
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 9, 2016 22:10:39 GMT
Maybe instead of trying to get caught up in a battle over concealed or open carry, or using this as a means to try and strike down the ability for the average joe to carry, maybe the Democrats could come up with some common sense regulations designed to make it harder for stupid, crazy, or violent people to own guns? Well if the republicans would stop squashing bills that make it harder for bad guys to get guns... |
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 9, 2016 22:11:57 GMT
They squash them because some democrats was to make it harder/illegal for everybody to get guns. Slippery slope and all. Personally I think it should be much harder to get a gun ,not impossible but much harder. How? What would you do? I'm not against making it harder, I am wondering how. |
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Jun 9, 2016 22:14:16 GMT
maybe there should be additional charges/time added to every sentence where the criminal used a gun? Mandatory sentences, not optional. Fines? Something that penalizes the person using the guns illegally/irresponsibly.......instead of making it harder for those of us who follow the law.
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Post by carhoch on Jun 9, 2016 22:20:55 GMT
Personally I think it should be much harder to get a gun ,not impossible but much harder. How? What would you do? I'm not against making it harder, I am wondering how. Serious background checks , giving the right to health professional to call the police if they feel that one of their patient is a danger for society or for him self , gun related safety courses Would be a start |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 22:35:23 GMT
Maybe instead of trying to get caught up in a battle over concealed or open carry, or using this as a means to try and strike down the ability for the average joe to carry, maybe the Democrats could come up with some common sense regulations designed to make it harder for stupid, crazy, or violent people to own guns? Sometime instead of achieving your goal by going head on through the front door you're forced to go around to the backdoor to achieve the goal of raining in the craziness of guns and gun ownership. This law is a way to stop "stupid, crazy, or violent people" from taking their guns out in the public on a whim. Just like the lawsuit filed by the Sandy Hook parents against the manufacturer of the assault rifle used to kill their children. It's to stop manufacturers from selling military type guns to the general public. Since apparently manufactures are smart enough to understand they probably shouldn't sell military type rifles to the public. The key words here are "military type". Thanks to the NRA you take what you can get. Note "raining in" not "eliminate". There is a difference. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 22:44:30 GMT
Maybe instead of trying to get caught up in a battle over concealed or open carry, or using this as a means to try and strike down the ability for the average joe to carry, maybe the Democrats could come up with some common sense regulations designed to make it harder for stupid, crazy, or violent people to own guns? Sometime instead of achieving your goal by going head on through the front door you're forced to go around to the backdoor to achieve the goal of raining in the craziness of guns and gun ownership. This law is a way to stop "stupid, crazy, or violent people" from taking their guns out in the public on a whim. Note "raining in" not "eliminate". There is a difference. I don't agree that taking this "backdoor" approach is going to rein in stupid, crazy, or violent people from taking their guns out in the public on a whim. Note that there is a difference between "raining" "reining" and "reigning" |
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 9, 2016 22:48:56 GMT
Maybe instead of trying to get caught up in a battle over concealed or open carry, or using this as a means to try and strike down the ability for the average joe to carry, maybe the Democrats could come up with some common sense regulations designed to make it harder for stupid, crazy, or violent people to own guns? Sometime instead of achieving your goal by going head on through the front door you're forced to go around to the backdoor to achieve the goal of raining in the craziness of guns and gun ownership. This law is a way to stop "stupid, crazy, or violent people" from taking their guns out in the public on a whim. Just like the lawsuit filed by the Sandy Hook parents against the manufacturer of the assault rifle used to kill their children. It's to stop manufacturers from selling military type guns to the general public. Since apparently manufactures are smart enough to understand they probably shouldn't sell military type rifles to the public. The key words here are "military type". Thanks to the NRA you take what you can get. Note "raining in" not "eliminate". There is a difference. |
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 9, 2016 22:48:58 GMT
This law is a way to stop "stupid, crazy, or violent people" from taking their guns out in the public on a whim. I disagree. I think this law could slow the idiot who always takes his gun with him and gets irrationally pissed off about something and shoots someone, but I don't think it stops any stupid, crazy, or violent person from doing it on a whim. If you are doing it on a whim, you are not caring about the law. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 22:57:30 GMT
Sometime instead of achieving your goal by going head on through the front door you're forced to go around to the backdoor to achieve the goal of raining in the craziness of guns and gun ownership. This law is a way to stop "stupid, crazy, or violent people" from taking their guns out in the public on a whim. Note "raining in" not "eliminate". There is a difference. Note that there is a difference between "raining" "reining" and "reigning" I wondered about that as it didn't seem right but I got lazy and didn't check it. Rats. |
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 9, 2016 23:01:12 GMT
This law is a way to stop "stupid, crazy, or violent people" from taking their guns out in the public on a whim. I disagree. I think this law could slow the idiot who always takes his gun with him and gets irrationally pissed off about something and shoots someone, but I don't think it stops any stupid, crazy, or violent person from doing it on a whim. If you are doing it on a whim, you are not caring about the law. |
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 9, 2016 23:02:11 GMT
They'll still carry, but it will be open carry instead of concealed. This law won't do anything except scare the flaky people. Open carry is not legal around here, so no they would not be open carrying. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 23:09:41 GMT
I am SO glad that all of the criminals I know subscribe to 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals Daily so they can stay up to date on what is legal and what is illegal. I heard that the Bloods and Crips even organized a phone chain so that they could let everyone know.
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 9, 2016 23:10:03 GMT
They'll still carry, but it will be open carry instead of concealed. This law won't do anything except scare the flaky people. Open carry is not legal around here, so no they would not be open carrying.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 23:10:48 GMT
This law is a way to stop "stupid, crazy, or violent people" from taking their guns out in the public on a whim. I disagree. I think this law could slow the idiot who always takes his gun with him and gets irrationally pissed off about something and shoots someone, but I don't think it stops any stupid, crazy, or violent person from doing it on a whim. If you are doing it on a whim, you are not caring about the law. The reality is, with very few exceptions, there is no reason for anyone to take their guns out in public. Way too many take their guns out in public because they want to be a "big deal" as my dad use to say. You are correct if this law stands there are those wanting to be that "big deal" will break the law. But there are those who will follow the law if they have no specific threat that would necessitate them carrying a gun out in public. Which would mean less guns out in public and less mishaps. |
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actually happened in AZ lol. He was a daily customer so I would see him once a week when I filled up with gas lol. 
