katybee
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Post by katybee on Jun 27, 2016 17:50:34 GMT
Who is punishing you and how exactly? I feel like it's everywhere I look and everything I read. It's just ridiculous that I should feel awful because of my skin color. I can't help my skin color any more than I can help being a woman. I don't even have to do a single thing for people to talk about my color as being horrible, oppressive, insert anything in here that is awful. I'm tired of it. At least the people in real life who know me don't treat me like that.Clearly you do NOT feel awful. So what's the problem? You feel the way you feel. No one can MAKE you feel anything. Simple. . Unless, of course, you were starting an inflammatory thread because you're seeking attention... Wouldn't it be awesome, Rainbow, to start a fun thread everyonce in a while. Positive attention is a good thing...
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 27, 2016 17:51:00 GMT
Paranoia. Again.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 27, 2016 17:52:46 GMT
The point is that somewhere isn't the same for some folks as it is for others. I don't know where you got your start in life. I got mine in abject poverty but with highly intelligent and hardworking parents. So I started out the gate well ahead of many - and well behind others. My DH and I later lived in Richmond, CA, Oakland's murderous cousin to the north, where I discovered that my childhood of peaceful poverty was like paradise in comparison. Kids in my town end up working at Walmart or the lumber yard. Some kids in Richmond end up at San Quentin. Big difference. I learned decades ago that shaming a community for its shortcomings is not how you propel a community to productivity. I'm not shaming anyone, and by the same token I don't want others to do it to me. These days white=evil which is simply not the case. Can't we all just be citizens with no color distinction? My guess is no, because then there wouldn't be anything to leverage against white people. I can't help being the race that I am, and I feel like I'm being punished for it every day. It's not like I chose this race, it was chosen for me.Anyone else see the irony in this post?? Substitute "white" for LGBTQ
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 17:52:53 GMT
jellied beef mold
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Rainbow
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 27, 2016 17:57:06 GMT
I feel like it's everywhere I look and everything I read. It's just ridiculous that I should feel awful because of my skin color. I can't help my skin color any more than I can help being a woman. I don't even have to do a single thing for people to talk about my color as being horrible, oppressive, insert anything in here that is awful. I'm tired of it. At least the people in real life who know me don't treat me like that. Clearly you do NOT feel awful. So what's the problem? You feel the way you feel. No one can MAKE you feel anything. Simple. . Unless, of course, you were starting an inflammatory thread because you're seeking attention... Wouldn't it be awesome, Rainbow, to start a fun thread everyonce in a while. Positive attention is a good thing... I clearly do not feel awful for being white, that is true. I'm just tired of other people wanting me to feel that way. Like being white makes me guilty of something.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 18:00:17 GMT
jellied beef mold That is truly terrifying.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 27, 2016 18:00:29 GMT
jellied beef mold Uh-OH...spaghetti-O's (I think it has weenies in it too!)
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Post by gar on Jun 27, 2016 18:01:07 GMT
What the bloddy hell is that???
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 18:01:14 GMT
Is that spaghetti hoop jelly?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 27, 2016 18:02:07 GMT
What the bloddy hell is that??? Spaghetti-o's and hot dogs in aspic!!!! Lol
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 27, 2016 18:02:47 GMT
But it's fancy...it's got leaves under it!
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Post by gar on Jun 27, 2016 18:04:01 GMT
What the bloddy hell is that??? Spaghetti-o's and hot dogs in aspic!!!! Lol Of course it is! Silly me!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 18:06:27 GMT
But it's fancy...it's got leaves under it! I thought that was chalk on the top.
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smginaz Suzy
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Jun 27, 2016 18:11:19 GMT
Ugh. You really have no idea, and although I'd like to call you a clueless moron, I don't think name-calling resolves anything. I just feel sorry for you, living in your prison of punishment because you had the misfortune to be born white.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 18:13:15 GMT
But it's fancy...it's got leaves under it! I thought that was chalk on the top. They look like canned vienna sausages to me . . . all pale and mushy and stinky *shudder* I love the term spaghetti hoop. Yes, in the U.S. the brand name is Spaghetti-Os and they come in cans.
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Post by peano on Jun 27, 2016 18:14:41 GMT
What the bloddy hell is that??? Spaghetti-o's and hot dogs in aspic!!!! Lol Hot dogs! You slander that lovely...creation. It's Vienna sausages.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 27, 2016 18:16:17 GMT
spaghetti-hoops sounds a lot nicer, somehow!! (do they taste any better if you call them that??)
and those Vienna sausages are just... <shudder!> they look like they've never seen the light of day (and maybe they should NOT ever see the light of day, lol)
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Rainbow
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 27, 2016 18:19:44 GMT
Ugh. You really have no idea, and although I'd like to call you a clueless moron, I don't think name-calling resolves anything. I just feel sorry for you, living in your prison of punishment because you had the misfortune to be born white. It's not a misfortune, it is circumstance that I had no control over.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 18:20:31 GMT
They do look a little anemic.
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DEX
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Post by DEX on Jun 27, 2016 18:20:37 GMT
Those are the "whitest" weenies I have ever seen.
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Post by gar on Jun 27, 2016 18:20:49 GMT
spaghetti-hoops sounds a lot nicer, somehow!! (do they taste any better if you call them that??) ) Somehow I doubt it:grin:
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inkedup
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Post by inkedup on Jun 27, 2016 18:26:29 GMT
Who is punishing you and how exactly? I feel like it's everywhere I look and everything I read. It's just ridiculous that I should feel awful because of my skin color. I can't help my skin color any more than I can help being a woman. I don't even have to do a single thing for people to talk about my color as being horrible, oppressive, insert anything in here that is awful. I'm tired of it. At least the people in real life who know me don't treat me like that.I don't understand how demanding a system of justice that treats all Americans fairly is asking you to "feel awful because of (your) skin color." The fact that our system is biased against poor people and people of color is well-documented. The affluenza case epitomizes this. I would cite examples of how poor and brown people are unjustly incarcerated in greater numbers than whites, but I won't waste my time because I doubt it will change your mind. I doubt you are interested in real conversation, anyhow. The bottom line is that "they" go to jail at much higher rates and receive much harsher sentences for the same crimes than "you" do. You may choose to deny this and play victim all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that our criminal justice system is heavily skewed against the most vulnerable people in our society. This isn't a fact that "they" have made up to burden "you", it's the truth about the way things have worked in this country for a very long time. Acknowledging this fact is different than asking "you" to have white guilt. I don't understand a worldview that is so narrow that it doesn't allow for much reasoning outside of "us" vs. "them."
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tincin
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Post by tincin on Jun 27, 2016 18:36:13 GMT
Those are the "whitest" weenies I have ever seen. Another victim of being white.
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katybee
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Post by katybee on Jun 27, 2016 18:38:48 GMT
I clearly do not feel awful for being white, that is true. I'm just tired of other people wanting me to feel that way. Like being white makes me guilty of something. [ You don't see it--do you? What if I change a few words, maybe that will help you understand: I clearly do not feel awful for being black, that is true. I'm just tired of the police wanting to pull me over for no other reason than being black.
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Post by lovinlife on Jun 27, 2016 18:40:25 GMT
As I've said before, I don't think it is really about race but instead SES. I've known two former students that got caught breaking the law, that were able to buy their ways out of the situations. No record, no community service, just Dad's checkbook. One was a white boy and one was a black girl. Their poor counterparts, who got caught with them (separate incidents) now have records. They couldn't afford fancy lawyers and hefty fines. This! For my .02 I believe we need to look at social class. Let's address the low income/ poverty in this country because that is where discrimination also is at. If you are a rich black man committing a crime (OJ) you can get away with murder. Just like if you are a poor white man and commit a crime you are doing jail time. I think there will always be some discrimination in this country and we need to be aware and try to change it. Let's face it, if you have a disability, over weight, not attractive or not in society's norm you will see discrimination.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 27, 2016 18:43:22 GMT
jellied beef mold I can't unsee those pictures, ya know.
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compeateropeator
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Post by compeateropeator on Jun 27, 2016 18:45:18 GMT
It mattered when you posted this thread, link to video, stated what you did in the OP, completed with "I can't help it if I'm white"! Yep, it mattered then. The solution works regardless of color.The problem is "just don't do it"is not a solution. It is like saying Well of course we can have world peace all we have to do is not have wars. To think you can eradicate crime is simplified wishful thinking, in my opinion you can blame human nature for that. Until people become something out of a sci-fi movies with no real brain or complex human thoughts and actions, that is not possible. There are many things that cause people to commit crimes, some are situational and some are not. So ultimately just don't do it will not work as a solution. But back to reality...since we do have to deal with crime, it is not preposterous for people to complain about injustice. As you said the color of your skin should not matter but it has been proven time and time again that it does. So since there has been crime since the beginning of time and just don't do it doesn't always work, I say lets start somewhere else. Maybe by trying to make the justice systems fair and by trying to help those who are in situations and surroundings that cultivate people to live violent lives. So that long winded rambling response basically is that I would rather look at fixing some of the real problems rather than think that a simple "just don't do it" will cure all of humanity. Since my response is already too long - let me add that I have committed crimes. Nothing earth shattering and nothing I have ever been arrested for or that would ruin my life, for which I am grateful. But I have done stupid things and that is even after having the advantage of growing up white, middle class, having loving parents and family, and a wonderful little Mayberry type town. I am very thankful that I did not have to grow up also dealing with some of the situations and in some of the places that I have seen or heard about. I am white and have never felt like I was being punished for it but I have seen how's it has it has provided me with some privileges. l
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 27, 2016 18:51:01 GMT
jellied beef mold The older I get, the more I appreciate a well-placed jello dish.
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Rainbow
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 27, 2016 18:51:18 GMT
I feel like it's everywhere I look and everything I read. It's just ridiculous that I should feel awful because of my skin color. I can't help my skin color any more than I can help being a woman. I don't even have to do a single thing for people to talk about my color as being horrible, oppressive, insert anything in here that is awful. I'm tired of it. At least the people in real life who know me don't treat me like that. I don't understand how demanding a system of justice that treats all Americans fairly is asking you to "feel awful because of (your) skin color." The fact that our system is biased against poor people and people of color is well-documented. The affluenza case epitomizes this. I would cite examples of how poor and brown people are unjustly incarcerated in greater number than whites, but I won't waste my time because I doubt it will change your mind. The bottom line is that "they" go to jail at much higher rates and receive much harsher sentences than for the same crimes than "you" do. You may choose to deny this and play victim all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that our criminal justice system is heavily skewed against the most vulnerable people in our society. This isn't a fact that "they" have made up to burden "you", it's the truth about the way things have worked in this country for a very long time. Acknowledging this fact is different than asking "you" to have white guilt. I don't understand a worldview that is so narrow that it doesn't allow for much reasoning outside of "us" vs. "them." What I'm speaking of is not the system, it's the media bias mostly. And regardless of how fair or unfair the system is, if you don't do a crime you won't do time. It IS a simple concept. There are people coming out of the poorest neighborhoods who do not commit crimes or do drugs. They made a choice. You can choose good or you can choose bad. It's the same for any color.
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Nink
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Post by Nink on Jun 27, 2016 18:52:19 GMT
My beautiful lunch just got about 1000% less appetizing after those pics. Y'all got my co-workers thinking I'm crazy, I'm laughing so hard.
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