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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 20:03:55 GMT
Sweet fancy Moses, Lainey, is that the Hoff?! Indeed it is
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 27, 2016 20:04:05 GMT
Thanks elaine! For some reason, that command no longer works for me.
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Rainbow
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Where salt is in the air and sand is at my feet...
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 27, 2016 20:05:11 GMT
Quit committing crimes and you won't go to jail. Simple, no matter what color you are. Quit being white and then you won't have to post this nonsense. I dunno, is it possible to stop being white? I don't even tan, LOL.
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Rainbow
Pearl Clutcher
Where salt is in the air and sand is at my feet...
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 27, 2016 20:10:37 GMT
Read the book Under Our Skin by Benjamin Watson. He plays for the New Orleans Saints. This book opened my eyes to the many ways racism pervades our culture without us even realizing it. It's written from a Christian perspective, so there is a lot of talk about God, if that would bother anyone. Thank you for the recommendation. I'll check it out.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 27, 2016 20:13:51 GMT
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 27, 2016 20:16:08 GMT
[/font][/font][/font][/quote][ What kind of idealized fantasy world do you live in? There are lots of people who don't do the crime and, yet, are doing the time. There are people who have been EXECUTED for crimes they didn't commit. And they are usually black. And that is NOT media bias. There are many factual, documented cases. Google it. [/quote] I suppose you could just let them all out and then disarm us. Would that be better?[/quote] Them is a set not identified. So that allows us to assign any value to it, no? [/quote] Here Lefty- embedded for you! [/quote] ^^^ my pet sitter uses this as her ring tone-- it makes me smile and laugh every time I hear it!!!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 27, 2016 20:35:04 GMT
Vienna sausage ring of "O's"
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Post by elaine on Jun 27, 2016 20:38:05 GMT
Vienna sausage ring of "O's" Bonus points awarded for the use of Spray Cheese!
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 27, 2016 20:39:13 GMT
spray cheese candles?!? (they may actually catch on fire, if you tried to light them!)
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Post by houston249 on Jun 27, 2016 20:50:55 GMT
Too soon? I'm totally chortling at 'weenies' No, no. It was not to soon. Never in pea history has it ever been a better time for the Hoff.
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Post by papersilly on Jun 27, 2016 20:52:57 GMT
your thread almost makes me long for the "sanity" of your vegan posts.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 27, 2016 21:04:13 GMT
Vienna sausage ring of "O's" Oh dear heaven; is that Cheez Whiz? . Aaarrrrgggghhhhhh.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 27, 2016 22:53:04 GMT
Here's an article looking into some of the issues being discussed here. The conclusions don't support the ideas being espoused here by many. The one thing I do find disturbing is that blacks commit a vastly greater percentage of homicides in this country than their percentage in the general population. The same is true for violent crime. This is based on what the victims tell the police about their assailants. I think as a society we must be concerned when members of 13% of the population are committing 52% of the violent crimes. These statistics cannot be put down to racism of the cops or the CJS. Poverty is definitely one factor in this, acceptance of violence within the community is another factor. Bias may also play a role but certainly not to the extent some people here like to think. In the end, how do we stop the killing and crimes committed by blacks (crimes committed overwhelmingly against other blacks) ? blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime/19439ETA,I understand the frustration with blacks receiving harsher sentences for the crimes they commit, but I still think we need to look at why blacks commit so many crimes.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Jun 27, 2016 23:20:30 GMT
That doesn't mean they can't start somewhere. Why don't you read up on toxic stress and its impact on brain development, and then consequently on critical thinking skills? And the maybe (though I doubt it) you'll understand that "starting somewhere" is nearly impossible when you're starting life a mile behind the starting line.
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 27, 2016 23:26:12 GMT
If what you say is true, Mirabelle, why are blacks killing so many other blacks rather than killing whites? 89% of black homicide deaths are caused by other blacks.
Your comment also ignores those blacks who despite the starting a "mile behind" are able to move beyond it. Why are they not affected by these disabilities you cite?
I'm just thinking out loud here but I don't know how this issue gets corrected.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 27, 2016 23:36:01 GMT
It must be awesome to live in a world of black and white. There address many layers to this. It isn't the don't break the law that is the issue and nobody is saying that someone who commits a felony should get a slap on the woodsy due to race, but that is what happens. Only it typically only happens to higher ses white criminals. Robber a commits crime, is black, gets 15 years Robber B commits same crime similar circumstances, is white with a good background and some money, gets 5 years and is out in 3 on good behavior. Or ... Rape convict A is black, and gets put away for over a decade, only to be acquitted of the crime later. Rape convict B is white and wealthy and attends an elite college, and prison would be too hard on him, so he gets "time served" in the county jail and nothing more. Oh you mean like Brock Turner?
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 27, 2016 23:41:28 GMT
But the country, liberals and conservatists, black and whites, were outraged by the sentence that Brock Turner received.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 27, 2016 23:48:22 GMT
Outrage doesn't matter- the sentence given was not the same.
Outrage is not the same thing as the sentence being the same as someone who did NOT have a wealthy parent, bigshot lawyer, 'potential future' whatever you want to call it.
and to address your previous comment: some people are lucky enough to have a good guidance counselor in high school, some people are blessed with a talent that gets developed so they end up with a college scholarship, some people have a minister, pastor, older relative, etc. etc. that helps them to see that there CAN be 'a way out' of the life they're in... whatever. But not everyone has that particular set of circumstances happen. Not everyone has the same life circumstances and opportunities, at all... some people 'make it' out of their circumstances and plenty of people don't, for a multitude of reasons. It's not so hard to see that.
We ALL start with slightly DIFFERENT starting points and safety nets, and that changes where we may- or may not- end up.
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 27, 2016 23:51:32 GMT
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 27, 2016 23:53:46 GMT
I don't think anyone disputes that. But that is always going to be the case in life. Some are going to be behind the 8 ball; some will not. So then why use it as a justification for the commission of violent crimes? I don't dispute that there are judge's who give blacks harsher sentences while some give affluent whites more lenient sentences. However, how is one asshole judge relevant to the statistics of crimes committed? Why focus on that one asshole judge instead of the 52% of violent crimes committed by blacks? Why focus only on the sentences received rather than the commission of crimes in the first place.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 27, 2016 23:55:01 GMT
What the bloddy hell is that??? Ah, you Brits have never had the 'joy' of spagetti o's? Mm mm a sublime treat for American youth of the 70's that somehow didn't quite taste good once you grew up. But I don't know WTF it's doing in a jello mold, now that ought to be a crime
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Post by hop2 on Jun 27, 2016 23:57:17 GMT
Oh now we're talking spagetti O pizza is definitely better than jello
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Post by hop2 on Jun 28, 2016 0:00:39 GMT
Vienna sausage ring of "O's" OMG why the cheese? It looks like ummm like ummmm well like sperm
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Jun 28, 2016 0:28:55 GMT
If what you say is true, Mirabelle, why are blacks killing so many other blacks rather than killing whites? 89% of black homicide deaths are caused by other blacks. Your comment also ignores those blacks who despite the starting a "mile behind" are able to move beyond it. Why are they not affected by these disabilities you cite? I'm just thinking out loud here but I don't know how this issue gets corrected. Wow. Did you take time to read even one journal article before responding?
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 28, 2016 0:31:34 GMT
Honestly, I'm trying to find it amidst all the asshole pictures of food.
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Post by elaine on Jun 28, 2016 0:57:34 GMT
If what you say is true, Mirabelle, why are blacks killing so many other blacks rather than killing whites? 89% of black homicide deaths are caused by other blacks. Your comment also ignores those blacks who despite the starting a "mile behind" are able to move beyond it. Why are they not affected by these disabilities you cite? I'm just thinking out loud here but I don't know how this issue gets corrected. 82% of white homicides are by whites. I'm guessing that the race of the people one congregates with on a regular basis has a HUGE impact on these stats. eta: there is always a small percentage of any disadvantaged group, be it due to ethnicity or SES, that is resilient enough to overcome their disadvantages. That doesn't mean that the chronic problems do not realistically exist for the majority of that group. When the average for the whole group shifts, not just a few outliers, then the chronic problem is being addressed. It is basic stats.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 28, 2016 1:01:03 GMT
Honestly, I'm trying to find it amidst all the asshole pictures of food. Eh, you say asshole pictures, I say comic relief, to each their own I guess
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Post by Merge on Jun 28, 2016 1:08:25 GMT
If what you say is true, Mirabelle, why are blacks killing so many other blacks rather than killing whites? 89% of black homicide deaths are caused by other blacks. Your comment also ignores those blacks who despite the starting a "mile behind" are able to move beyond it. Why are they not affected by these disabilities you cite? I'm just thinking out loud here but I don't know how this issue gets corrected. 82% of white homicides are by whites. I'm guessing that the race of the people one congregates with on a regular basis has a HUGE impact on these stats. eta: there is always a small percentage of any disadvantaged group, be it due to ethnicity or SES, that is resilient enough to overcome their disadvantages. That doesn't mean that the chronic problems do not realistically exist for the majority of that group. When the average for the whole group shifts, not just a few outliers, then the chronic problem is being addressed. It is basic stats. Exactly. As diverse and integrated as some areas are, most people in the US live and work mostly with people who look like they do. Also, most violent crime is committed against someone the criminal knows or is related to. Thus the high rates of black on black or white on white or hispanic on hispanic crimes. Another thing that often gets missed when we're talking about race and crime is that people of low SES are more likely to commit crimes, particularly violent crimes, regardless of race - but minorities are very disproportionally represented among those of low SES. There are a lot of reasons for this, and it's a lot more complex than some people realize.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 1:16:12 GMT
What is SES?
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Post by Merge on Jun 28, 2016 1:26:13 GMT
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