Dani-Mani
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jul 21, 2016 12:13:12 GMT
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Kerri W
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Jun 25, 2014 20:31:44 GMT
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Post by Kerri W on Jul 21, 2016 12:19:03 GMT
I'm curious and wonder how much experience and age of the officer come into play in these situations? In our local department, I know they've had a horrible time hiring officers and then getting them to stay. I would say a large percentage of the entry level positions are under 25 and have only been out of the academy for a few months.
There seems to be absolutely no excuse for this shooting and it maddens me. Ill be interested in how the story evolves in the next few days.
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peppermintpatty
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Jun 26, 2014 17:47:08 GMT
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jul 21, 2016 12:25:37 GMT
That is truly disgusting!
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 21, 2016 12:36:45 GMT
What I find interesting is that this is the first I have heard of this incident. It hasn't been in or on any of the local news outlets that I have seen.
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Post by originalvanillabean on Jul 21, 2016 12:38:49 GMT
Just saw it on Good Morning America.
This makes me so sad.
I'm not sure what he could have done differently. And he still got shot.
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Dani-Mani
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jul 21, 2016 12:41:41 GMT
What I find interesting is that this is the first I have heard of this incident. It hasn't been in or on any of the local news outlets that I have seen. It was on WFLA.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 21, 2016 12:44:58 GMT
What I find interesting is that this is the first I have heard of this incident. It hasn't been in or on any of the local news outlets that I have seen. It was on WFLA. I must have missed it...I don't always watch channel 8 news. Thanks for the heads up!
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AnotherPea
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Post by AnotherPea on Jul 21, 2016 12:49:27 GMT
awww, that sucks all around. Poor therapist, poor patient and yes, poor cop. I don't know any other details but it sure reads like the cop was poorly trained and scared out of his mind. "I don't know" when asked why he shot the therapist. This sucks. Which is what everyone predicted two years ago - a police force full of poorly trained new recruits (because experienced ones would leave the force) and a constant fear of being killed/hunted.
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Post by lumo on Jul 21, 2016 12:49:49 GMT
Victim said, "Why did you shoot me?"
Cop said, "I don't know."
This is someone who should be carrying a firearm?
WTF.
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Dani-Mani
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jul 21, 2016 12:50:31 GMT
I'm sorry but I cannot poor cop on this one. I hope he's charged and loses his badge.
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Post by Merge on Jul 21, 2016 13:09:00 GMT
Good lord. I'm glad the poor guy he shot wasn't seriously injured.
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Post by mom on Jul 21, 2016 13:27:06 GMT
This is so sad. While I normally support the cop - I hope this is investigated fully and any charges that are warranted, are brought.
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AnotherPea
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Post by AnotherPea on Jul 21, 2016 13:27:42 GMT
looking at the still photos, I'm wondering if the cop got loosey-goosey with the trigger and intended to shoot the patient and ended up getting the therapist in the leg? The report states he was shot three times, but the therapist only mentioned one shot.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 21, 2016 13:27:50 GMT
What I find interesting is that this is the first I have heard of this incident. It hasn't been in or on any of the local news outlets that I have seen. It was on WFLA. ...and it just showed up in my twitter on a national news outlet...
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Dani-Mani
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jul 21, 2016 13:30:32 GMT
looking at the still photos, I'm wondering if the cop got loosey-goosey with the trigger and intended to shoot the patient and ended up getting the therapist in the leg? The report states he was shot three times, but the therapist only mentioned one shot. Because shooting an autistic adult is warranted?! seriously?! Shooting an AUTISTIC adult is okay?! Did you watch the video?! The poor guy is aggitated, rocking back and forth, playing with his car. What threat did he pose that someone needed to pull a GUN on either?!
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Post by secondlife on Jul 21, 2016 13:33:18 GMT
looking at the still photos, I'm wondering if the cop got loosey-goosey with the trigger and intended to shoot the patient and ended up getting the therapist in the leg? The report states he was shot three times, but the therapist only mentioned one shot. Why the actual ever-loving (censored) would he shoot a person with autism holding a toy truck? Because the guy might throw the toy truck at the cop?
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AnotherPea
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Post by AnotherPea on Jul 21, 2016 13:39:04 GMT
whoa, calm down there ladies!
I never said that shooting an autistic patient with a toy was warranted. Step back and think a bit. Whew!
It is more probable to me that a cop would think someone with a gun (as they were told in the 911 call), pointing it in different directions (as you can see in the video), is a threat than a man lying on his back with his hands in the air. Either way, pulling the trigger is wrong, no doubt. I can simply understand one mistake (I assume with the "I don't know.") more than the other.
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smartypants71
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Jun 25, 2014 22:47:49 GMT
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Post by smartypants71 on Jul 21, 2016 13:39:58 GMT
I watched the video on CBS This Morning. WTAF!!!! I'm just glad it didn't have a worse outcome.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jul 21, 2016 13:41:13 GMT
In this situation, the cop needs to lose his job, at the very, very least. He is obviously not qualified for this job.
That poor therapist. And his patient. He was probably traumatized too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 13:52:50 GMT
What I find interesting is that this is the first I have heard of this incident. It hasn't been in or on any of the local news outlets that I have seen. I saw it multiple times on Twitter yesterday, from multiple sources. It's horrifying.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 13:55:21 GMT
looking at the still photos, I'm wondering if the cop got loosey-goosey with the trigger and intended to shoot the patient and ended up getting the therapist in the leg? The report states he was shot three times, but the therapist only mentioned one shot. Even if he meant to shoot the patient (wtf?!) and shot the therapist instead, at the very least it means he has shitty aim. Either way, that is not someone who should be on the police force.
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scorpeao
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Jun 25, 2014 21:04:54 GMT
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Post by scorpeao on Jul 21, 2016 13:57:47 GMT
I'm sorry but I cannot poor cop on this one. I hope he's charged and loses his badge. This! And he should be on UNPAID administrative leave. So, I guess now if you're a person of color it doesn't even matter if you comply with the cops orders...you'll still get shot. Something needs to be done to change this.
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Post by secondlife on Jul 21, 2016 14:01:26 GMT
whoa, calm down there ladies! I never said that shooting an autistic patient with a toy was warranted. Step back and think a bit. Whew! It is more probable to me that a cop would think someone with a gun (as they were told in the 911 call), pointing it in different directions (as you can see in the video), is a threat than a man lying on his back with his hands in the air. Either way, pulling the trigger is wrong, no doubt. I can simply understand one mistake (I assume with the "I don't know.") more than the other. No, I'm still going with WTF. Intended. To. Shoot. The. Autistic. Patient. Holding. A. Toy. Car. But missed. Because maybe they can't tell a toy car from a gun even after they were clearly informed what it was? As if that's all just a mistake, when I'm not actually sure which is worse - shooting the complying caregiver or the autistic patient.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 21, 2016 14:08:56 GMT
It's horrifying. Thank heaven the poor man wasn't killed.
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janeliz
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Jun 26, 2014 14:35:07 GMT
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Post by janeliz on Jul 21, 2016 14:13:17 GMT
It's terrifying to me that if I'm ever in a situation where cops are called, a police officer like that one may show up.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 21, 2016 14:22:47 GMT
I do not in any way condone this shooting. That being said, before I read any details, it made me think. How scared must police officers be just to go about and do their jobs today? My first thought was wondering if that played a role in the situation.
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schizo319
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Post by schizo319 on Jul 21, 2016 14:49:10 GMT
I worked my way through college at a group home. My clients were all black adult men who functioned developmentally at a toddler level. One of the guys I cared for was 250lb of solid muscle and would occasionally "go off" in a tantrum of epic proportions where he became combative. He could've seriously injured any one of us, but you know what, we were trained on how to handle that and managed to do so without ever laying a hand (much less a weapon) on our clients. If an 18 year old unarmed college girl can be trained to deescalate a potentially violent threat in the 16 hours of training we had, I expect that an adult police officer can do the same after months at a police academy.
If officers are so terrified to do their jobs that their first instinct when seeing a clearly disabled adult playing with a toy is to pull out a weapon and start firing, then they are in the wrong profession. I get that there are times when officers are in very dangerous situations, but not every situation warrants the level of force that we're seeing used in recent days. If you are scared to death to do your job, then find a different one. There is NO excuse for this - NONE!
I cannot imagine the fear that parents of children with Autism must be feeling today.
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peabay
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Post by peabay on Jul 21, 2016 14:58:10 GMT
What I find interesting is that this is the first I have heard of this incident. It hasn't been in or on any of the local news outlets that I have seen. I've seen it everywhere today. Was on CBS This Morning too.
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Kerri W
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Jun 25, 2014 20:31:44 GMT
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Post by Kerri W on Jul 21, 2016 14:58:20 GMT
I do not in any way condone this shooting. That being said, before I read any details, it made me think. How scared must police officers be just to go about and do their jobs today? My first thought was wondering if that played a role in the situation. Then they should choose another profession. SaveSave
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 21, 2016 15:01:30 GMT
What I find interesting is that this is the first I have heard of this incident. It hasn't been in or on any of the local news outlets that I have seen. I've seen it everywhere today. Was on CBS This Morning too. I am definitely seeing it all over now as well. It was like it suddenly popped up.
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