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Post by elaine on Nov 9, 2016 7:40:20 GMT
That the crowd at Trump's party continues to chant "LOCK HER UP" this evening every time the cameras turn to them doesn't speak to a desire to bring the country together. I really hope Trump will work to bring the country together. But let's not forget that even though Obama made those claims, after he was elected, his mantra became "we won" whenever called upon to compromise. What I'm seeing now is Hillary supporters now saying all the things Republicans have said over the last 8 years and expecting the Republican President to act in a way their candidate did not. As I've said before, it's best to keep in mind that the tables always turn in American politics and that whatever you support in your own candidate will come back to be used against you in the future. Obama could certainly have done better to work across the aisle. That said, saying "we won" which echoed Bush's mantra of "we have a mandate from the people" is NOTHING like "Lock Her Up!" Not even close. Bush had more decorum in one of his little fingers than Trump has in his whole body.
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Post by gar on Nov 9, 2016 7:45:53 GMT
One way or the other, we're all gonna be okay Well, maybe not all, eh?
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Post by MizIndependent on Nov 9, 2016 7:49:39 GMT
One way or the other, we're all gonna be okay Well, maybe not all, eh? I am in shock and that's no exaggeration. I never thought Hillary wouldn't win. I have thought a lot of things about Clinton, the DNC, Our electoral system...but it never crossed my mind that Trump could actually win. I'm gonna have to revisit my original post. This is just surreal.
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Post by gar on Nov 9, 2016 8:12:24 GMT
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Post by Skypea on Nov 9, 2016 8:48:14 GMT
Trump and his supporters are going to get exactly what they wanted… A divided country. Let's be honest– he was never running to unite us. His strategy was to divide us. And apparently a lot of people agree with him. Trump and his supporters are not suddenly going to start singing Kumbaya with the gays and the Mexicans and the Muslims and the blacks and the nasty women… that's exactly the left's agenda. that is exactly what DBO set out to do... and did.
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Post by Skypea on Nov 9, 2016 8:53:49 GMT
No, I don't agree. If you have a president that makes a point of insulting other countries and other cultures routinely on the world stage then all of you as Americans will become potential targets. Terrorism around the globe is bad enough when we've got reasonable, calm people at the helm, put a loose cannon like Trump up and you can just sit back and wait for another 9-11. If you have a guy that can't keep his cool or hold his tongue in major world trade negotiations then you will also suffer economically. You could all be paying (financially) for this mistake for decades to come to undo the damage this man could (probably will) do. He will not move your country forward...only backwards. All jokes aside, ^ is my fear, and why I am legitimately scared tonight. That, and I feel like he just set us back 50 years. I can't imagine what it must feel like right now to be LGBT or a protected class that he's insulted along the way. I'd have a hard time supporting a country who votes someone like that into the presidency.exactly how conservatives have felt for the past 8 yrs... 8 yrs later and looking at the red map shows what the majority of the country thinks about what DBO and his supporters have done to our country.
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Post by Skypea on Nov 9, 2016 8:55:39 GMT
I keep telling myself that we'll be okay, our government is set up so one person can't make all the decisions. But I'm still scared... Theoretically it is set up that way. At the beginning I thought well, at least there's some hope with the cabinet. Then I realised that as a complete egomaniac, he won't take anyone's advice, but his own. huh? after DBO went what was it - a yr or more without a cabinet meeting? created law by EO?
Why won't that be ok for Trump to do?
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Post by uksue on Nov 9, 2016 9:01:57 GMT
Can I wake up now please?!
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Post by gillyp on Nov 9, 2016 9:09:47 GMT
Well hell.
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Post by terri on Nov 9, 2016 9:16:29 GMT
I barely have the words. I'm sad and gutted. Trump says he will immediately repeal the ACA which quite literally saved my life. My husband will lose his job - he works for a Chinese company and we know they will transfer jobs here to Asia. We expect out 401K will lose a lot of its value. My mind can't even deal with what this means for my sister's husband who is black and my gay and Jewish friends who already deal with harassment. My heart breaks for my daughter who will face a world where men have been told they can assault women at will with no consequence. Our friends in the rest of the world just can't believe that this happened here. I've seen and sometime voted for Republican president in my adult life. Those were decent men and I never feared they would intentionally do harm to anyone. Trump is not a decent man.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Nov 9, 2016 9:27:13 GMT
My one good takeaway from today was the preview for 'Loving' as I had never heard of it before. I am excited about it, being in an interracial marriage myself. One of my biggest reasons for being so liberal (very pro lgbtq rights) is because of lack of acceptance and tolerance in our nation's history and I would love to see an uplifting (based on a true story) movie about how the path to my family feels like it started.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 10:11:35 GMT
What the actual fuck?
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Post by raindancer on Nov 9, 2016 10:36:19 GMT
I keep telling myself that we'll be okay, our government is set up so one person can't make all the decisions. But I'm still scared... I always have believed this to be a truth. But Trump doesn't play by other people rules. He also has congress and has no reason to play nice with them because he didn't need them to win either. We have also set a very dangerous precedent with executive orders in the country. I have never bought into the sky is falling rhetoric from either side and since 1996 have never had my person win the seat. This feels entirely different and terrifying.
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Post by raindancer on Nov 9, 2016 10:44:10 GMT
I agree. I didn't like the result in 2012 but I survived. My insurance, however, did not. It quadrupled! Your insurance is likely to be the least of your concerns Thai isn't comparable to anything we have ever had before
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Post by johnnysmom on Nov 9, 2016 10:45:28 GMT
Im a glass half full person so I'm holding out hope that somehow it really will be ok (don't spill my glass)
But I'm sitting here just shaking my head. Where did all these votes come from (don't answer me, it's a rhetorical question)? Nearly everyone I talked to was against him, how in the hell did he get enough votes to win?? I'm literally sitting here shaking my head.
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 9, 2016 10:58:40 GMT
No, I don't agree. If you have a president that makes a point of insulting other countries and other cultures routinely on the world stage then all of you as Americans will become potential targets. Terrorism around the globe is bad enough when we've got reasonable, calm people at the helm, put a loose cannon like Trump up and you can just sit back and wait for another 9-11. If you have a guy that can't keep his cool or hold his tongue in major world trade negotiations then you will also suffer economically. You could all be paying (financially) for this mistake for decades to come to undo the damage this man could (probably will) do. He will not move your country forward...only backwards. He already has given his views on race, culture, sexuality, and gender. Floors me that in 2016 that people would tolerate and vote for that. Now they will have to reap what they sowed... And I have no hope it will be anything good.
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 9, 2016 11:16:52 GMT
I just want our foreign RPs to know that many of us are just as horrified as you. Please realize that.
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Post by cade387 on Nov 9, 2016 11:19:10 GMT
All jokes aside, ^ is my fear, and why I am legitimately scared tonight. That, and I feel like he just set us back 50 years. I can't imagine what it must feel like right now to be LGBT or a protected class that he's insulted along the way. I'd have a hard time supporting a country who votes someone like that into the presidency.exactly how conservatives have felt for the past 8 yrs... 8 yrs later and looking at the red map shows what the majority of the country thinks about what DBO and his supporters have done to our country. Tonight had an awful lot to do with a lot of people realizing they are not ok with a woman in the White House. And when a man promises to let them be racist publicly, they think that is cool as shit. This is based on people in real life in my office an on my facebook feed.
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Post by peasapie on Nov 9, 2016 11:46:49 GMT
I am very glad so many people went on the record publicly about which candidate they supported. As 401ks tank, as our country engages in the inevitable war and civil unrest unfolds,, we will know who is responsible -- and it won't just be the lunatic at the top. It will be each and every one who voted for him.
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Post by johnnysmom on Nov 9, 2016 11:54:27 GMT
While that might be part of it I think there's a lot more to it than just that. She had some questionable things from her past (Benghazi) and she's married to someone who has a questionable past (it shouldn't matter but it does to some people). She was a poor choice for a nominee (not as bad as him IMO) I think another woman could have won it.
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Post by gar on Nov 9, 2016 11:57:26 GMT
to do with a lot of people realizing they are not ok with a woman in the White House. Do you really think that is a big factor? That's awful and shouldn't be the case surely, in 2016!!
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Post by teddyw on Nov 9, 2016 12:26:57 GMT
to do with a lot of people realizing they are not ok with a woman in the White House. Do you really think that is a big factor? That's awful and shouldn't be the case surely, in 2016!! I think that was the case with older white males. I was shocked at my polling station how many old men were there. I came home & said to my dh that I thought our neighborhood was younger than it really is.
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 9, 2016 12:33:43 GMT
to do with a lot of people realizing they are not ok with a woman in the White House. Do you really think that is a big factor? That's awful and shouldn't be the case surely, in 2016!! It definitely is. This toxic election cycle has shown how far people assume people have come, but actually ripped the mask off and shown how far people have actually come. Hatred won and has been given carte blanche against women and minorities. The only people who will be "safe" (and even that's iffy) are old, white, straight men. Everyone else is an enemy to be repressed and put back under the boot of hatred. All the progress made? Gone. I have little doubt that there will be any inclusiveness or "bringing together". This is going to divide more than it already has.
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Post by imsirius on Nov 9, 2016 12:45:06 GMT
I find it laughable that a man who ran his whole campaign on racist remarks, exclusion of minorities, persecution of equality for all and deprecating and bashing women, gave a acceptance speech that was a complete 180! What the what?
He sounded drugged to me.
Oh, and Skypea, the only good thing about this win is that I don't have to read your fucking rants about Obama. Thank your fucking God for that! I have held my tongue for years on your hatred of him when he so did not deserve it.
You can go away now..you have nothing to bitch about anymore. Put your tinfoil hat away and go crawl into oblivion. Please.
**I apologize to other peas for my outburst but I just can't take her anymore.**
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Post by kibble on Nov 9, 2016 12:45:54 GMT
Trump and his supporters are going to get exactly what they wanted… A divided country. Let's be honest– he was never running to unite us. His strategy was to divide us. And apparently a lot of people agree with him. Trump and his supporters are not suddenly going to start singing Kumbaya with the gays and the Mexicans and the Muslims and the blacks and the nasty women… that's exactly the left's agenda. that is exactly what DBO set out to do... and did. I usually try to be nice, but you are full of shit. That has never been the left's agenda. The left wants equality for all, that is what we are fighting for. We want it not to matter what your race, sex, religion, etc is. When have republicans ever been about equality? The right wants the status quo of the 1950s.
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Post by sawwhet on Nov 9, 2016 12:53:30 GMT
I'm shocked. I'm not American. I live near the border. The best I can do to "protest" is to stay on my side of the border. I won't be visiting the US for long weekends, spending $ in hotels, spending money on shopping trips. I do leave for a cruise out of the US next year but other than that, I'll redirect my spending and keep my money in Canada.
I like the American people but I can't support your choice for President. It's probably an insignificant "punishment" but he just doesn't align with my morals.
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Post by ahiller on Nov 9, 2016 12:56:20 GMT
I think that's a good idea. You and I have never had issues before and I'd hate to have that start now. If that was a threat of some sort, then it's laughable. This ain't my first 2Peas rodeo. If I am mistaken, then my apologies in advance.
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Post by imsirius on Nov 9, 2016 12:59:23 GMT
I'm shocked. I'm not American. I live near the border. The best I can do to "protest" is to stay on my side of the border. I won't be visiting the US for long weekends, spending $ in hotels, spending money on shopping trips. I do leave for a cruise out of the US next year but other than that, I'll redirect my spending and keep my money in Canada. I like the American people but I can't support your choice for President. It's probably an insignificant "punishment" but he just doesn't align with my morals. Hopefully with the tariffs and border taxes Trump wants to impose, you will be able to afford to cross the border. They were talking about this on Bloomberg North yesterday. I only caught a bit of it but this is apparently one of his plans. Tourism is going to suffer.
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Post by laureljean on Nov 9, 2016 13:24:02 GMT
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Post by southerngirl on Nov 9, 2016 13:46:58 GMT
I have never been upset by the outcome of a presidential election. Last night I cried for over an hour watching the coverage. I am so broken hearted. I expect we are going to see some people who voted a third party protest vote begin to wish they had voted differently. Trump called it when he said it would be a Brexit plus plus plus. We learned nothing from Brexit. While newspapers are calling this a repudiation of the establishment, that's not how it's going to play out. The American people gave Republicans the White House and Congress. They will see this as an endorsement.
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