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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 15, 2017 23:28:22 GMT
I believe it's a distinct possibility. It will depend on how entangled things are with Russia, if anything could rise to the level of treason. There are many establishment Republicans who would love to see Trump go. He has very few enthusiastic supporters among them. The only one I could think of off the top of my head was Sessions, and he's not in the Senate any longer to stop a conviction if it came down to that. McCain, Collins and Graham would probably lead the charge to convict. But the House will be trickier. Mid-term elections will probably play a part if Trump lasts that long. Paul Ryan is obviously not a fan and has never been one. But as long as a significant chunk of the Republican house members think their re-election chances are better with Trump, I can't see him moving for impeachment - particularly as he doesn't have the ability to push it through without those members. Now if there is something that truly endangers the country, all bets are off. I know many on this board think all Republicans are immoral and only care about themselves, but I fundamentally disagree and would not expect Paul Ryan to sit on the sidelines if Trump was truly bringing us to nuclear armageddon. |
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Post by MichyM on Feb 15, 2017 23:28:51 GMT
I've never thought that he actually WANTED to be president. So I do not see him making it 4 years. I honestly think he'll resign before a possible impeachment comes to fruition. i want to believe he will quit, i want him to quit but as arrogant as he is, do you think he could bear a legacy of being a quitter? impeachment charges can be started but i could also see him dragging it so the clock runs out on his term. I can totally see him BLAMING something/someone as an excuse for resigning. Trump quitting outright because either the job is too hard, or there are pending legal considerations? That I cannot see. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 23:29:40 GMT
I don't know enough about how or what is needed to impeach a president but someone, somewhere needs to do something soon, before it's to late. Your country is going to hell in a handcart and no one has the b**** to do anything about it or it seems that there isn't a way to do anything, which is even worse.
The situation as it is now can't possibly go on for another two years with just wishing that it will change then. It's too much of a risk!
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Post by flute4peace on Feb 15, 2017 23:50:43 GMT
Frankly, I think he'll do away with us before we can do away with him.
I will also say that I do not blame the SS Director for resigning.
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Post by littlemama on Feb 15, 2017 23:52:05 GMT
Too soon to tell, but all of the republicans who claimed not to support him during the election cycle sure seem willing to go along with whatever he wanted. Not a set of balls among them. Too afraid he will tweet about them, I guess. Hopefully they are all booted in 2018.
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Post by flute4peace on Feb 15, 2017 23:55:06 GMT
Also from what I understand and somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, NPD is a personality disorder and not a mental illness. So could he even be declared incapacitated?
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Post by imsirius on Feb 16, 2017 0:01:28 GMT
Also from what I understand and somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, NPD is a personality disorder and not a mental illness. So could he even be declared incapacitated? Two Harvard psychologists posted an article that I read yesterday on fb, but don't remember where it was, said he is truly, mentally ill not with NPD but something else. I wish I could find it. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 16, 2017 0:02:42 GMT
Also from what I understand and somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, NPD is a personality disorder and not a mental illness. So could he even be declared incapacitated? The 25th Amendment only requires the Vice President and majority of cabinet to provide a written declaration that: Now the real interesting part happens if the President disagrees: |
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Post by msladibug on Feb 16, 2017 0:03:27 GMT
He's already campaigning for 2020. I hope something gets him out before then. 2020 trump campaign |
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Post by flute4peace on Feb 16, 2017 0:04:10 GMT
Also from what I understand and somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, NPD is a personality disorder and not a mental illness. So could he even be declared incapacitated? Two Harvard psychologists posted an article that I read yesterday on fb, but don't remember where it was, said he is truly, mentally ill not with NPD but something else. I wish I could find it. This would be an interesting read. Will you post it if you find it? |
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Post by elaine on Feb 16, 2017 0:04:30 GMT
Also from what I understand and somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, NPD is a personality disorder and not a mental illness. So could he even be declared incapacitated? NPD is particular type of personality disorder which is one category of mental disorders. Just like "cancer" is one category of physical disorders and lung cancer is a particular/specific type. So, yes, NPD is just as much a mental disorder as schizophrenia or antisocial personality disorder (Ted Bundy). |
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Post by elaine on Feb 16, 2017 0:13:33 GMT
Maybe, but impeachment is just basically leveling charges against the President. Then he has to be tried. So while I think the possibility exists that he MAY be impeached, I think he would either resign before that happened, or in the crazy case that it happened before he could pull a Nixon, then he wouldn't be found guilty. Too many Republicans in Congress. also known as pulling a Bill Clinton Who are you, again? If you just go ahead and answer, I'll stop asking. |
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Feb 16, 2017 0:27:24 GMT
No I think there will be some fake/exaggerated "medical event" that will precipitate him stepping aside. Which he will spin into how wonderful he is to be such a great president!Exactly this. Exactly this. He's not one to be defeated, so leaving will be on his terms. Whatever that is. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 0:36:59 GMT
I think maybe, he has already been Caught with lobbyist outside of the whitehouse, he has killed four Americans, targeting democrats IRS, lost weapons that killed border agents oops, used military force without congressional approval, ordered private companies to close down, firing IG, lied and said if you like your insurance and doctor....you know the rest, gave $500 million to a company that went belly up....Solyndra, Sen. Byrd says Trumps on a power trip, I also heard he is gonna give exemptions to unions on healthcare, I heard Trump was offended by anti muslim video on YouTube, making internet providers install surveillance, covering programs to investigate Americans, that's just a few things he has done......naw I think President Donald J. Trump will remain. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 0:39:17 GMT
also known as pulling a Bill Clinton Who are you, again? If you just go ahead and answer, I'll stop asking. I don't see you requiring identification from summer, oh yeah that's because she agrees with you. |
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Post by melanell on Feb 16, 2017 0:44:36 GMT
I don't know, but I'm surprised so many think he'll resign. Personally I think he's way to full of himself to ever admit he's in over his head and resigns, that would be a sign of weakness (in his eyes) and he would never do that. I agree, BUT I also think that he'd rather resign on his own (fake) terms than to be impeached, So I think that if it ever came to a point that he truly believed that they might successfully oust him, that he'd leave in his own way first instead. Save |
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Post by flute4peace on Feb 16, 2017 0:46:26 GMT
Also from what I understand and somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, NPD is a personality disorder and not a mental illness. So could he even be declared incapacitated? NPD is particular type of personality disorder which is one category of mental disorders. Just like "cancer" is one category of physical disorders and lung cancer is a particular/specific type. So, yes, NPD is just as much a mental disorder as schizophrenia or antisocial personality disorder (Ted Bundy). Thanks. I wasn't sure where the line was drawn between the two. I was thinking NPD couldn't be treated/cured. |
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Post by compwalla on Feb 16, 2017 0:49:28 GMT
Also from what I understand and somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, NPD is a personality disorder and not a mental illness. So could he even be declared incapacitated? Two Harvard psychologists posted an article that I read yesterday on fb, but don't remember where it was, said he is truly, mentally ill not with NPD but something else. I wish I could find it. |
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Post by micheley on Feb 16, 2017 0:50:45 GMT
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Post by elaine on Feb 16, 2017 1:02:43 GMT
Who are you, again? If you just go ahead and answer, I'll stop asking. I don't see you requiring identification from summer , oh yeah that's because she agrees with you. And you are? Did the message board you guys started after the group hair flip out of here slow down (predictably) to a near-standstill because there are so few of you so that you are trickling back under other names hoping no one will notice? If you want to know summer's ID, you can feel free to ask. Her one post re: thinking Trump won't last 4 years doesn't seem suspect to me, especially given how many Republicans posted the same thing on that thread. |
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Post by elaine on Feb 16, 2017 1:03:44 GMT
NPD is particular type of personality disorder which is one category of mental disorders. Just like "cancer" is one category of physical disorders and lung cancer is a particular/specific type. So, yes, NPD is just as much a mental disorder as schizophrenia or antisocial personality disorder (Ted Bundy). Thanks. I wasn't sure where the line was drawn between the two. I was thinking NPD couldn't be treated/cured. It can't be "cured," but people with personality disorders that want to learn coping skills can. Most don't because a hallmark of personality disorders is that people with them don't think that there is anything wrong with them, just with everyone else. That doesn't mean it isn't a mental disorder. It is in the DSM 5. |
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Post by suzastampin on Feb 16, 2017 1:11:17 GMT
Where's Kenneth Starr when you need him?  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 1:35:04 GMT
also known as pulling a Bill Clinton Who are you, again? If you just go ahead and answer, I'll stop asking. Mary from Michigan. Bonanza Falls if you want to get specific. Scrappymomof3 on Two Peas. Why does it matter to you? Also who are you to demand someone's identity? That's a bully move and I haven't done anything but say an opinion that you don't agree with. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 1:37:13 GMT
I continue to believe he will not complete a full term.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Feb 16, 2017 1:42:10 GMT
I'm a republican/libertarian/ independent (who knows anymore!) and I think so. Either impeachment, quitting, or something else. I'd be fine with Pence - he isn't perfect of course but at least he has decorum and speaks in complete, logical sentences.  That's funny, I don't know if I'm an independent or libertarian I agree with you, I think he'll either get impeached, quit or something. I just don't see him doing his entire 4 year term. |
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Post by elaine on Feb 16, 2017 2:11:55 GMT
Who are you, again? If you just go ahead and answer, I'll stop asking. Mary from Michigan. Bonanza Falls if you want to get specific. Scrappymomof3 on Two Peas. Why does it matter to you? Also who are you to demand someone's identity? That's a bully move and I haven't done anything but say an opinion that you don't agree with. Who are you to demand that I demand that someone else cops up to their identity? Why and and how in the world is asking someone to identify with their previous 2peas identity a "bully" move? That is special sensitive snowflake liberal talk. LOL! If you think someone asking who you are is bullying, you have fewer social skills than my sons with autism. Eta: you are just pissed off because I know what is going on with the other board. |
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Post by papersilly on Feb 16, 2017 2:12:15 GMT
i want to believe he will quit, i want him to quit but as arrogant as he is, do you think he could bear a legacy of being a quitter? impeachment charges can be started but i could also see him dragging it so the clock runs out on his term. I can totally see him BLAMING something/someone as an excuse for resigning. Trump quitting outright because either the job is too hard, or there are pending legal considerations? That I cannot see. oh he invented the blame game and KAC and his other cronies are more than happy to fan the flames of blame. he'll be a crybaby the whole time. wahhh, the mean old press...wahhhhh, the mean old liberals.....wahhhhh, the mean judges.....wah wah wah |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 2:13:36 GMT
No, because nobody wants pence in office.
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Post by Merge on Feb 16, 2017 2:24:26 GMT
Who are you, again? If you just go ahead and answer, I'll stop asking. Mary from Michigan. Bonanza Falls if you want to get specific. Scrappymomof3 on Two Peas. Why does it matter to you? Also who are you to demand someone's identity? That's a bully move and I haven't done anything but say an opinion that you don't agree with. Did you have another identity here, on this board, before this one? I suspect Elaine feels we are possibly being jerked around by one of the peas we know quite well, who recently left in a huff. The timing of your beginning to post under this name is about right for one or more of them to start trickling back. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 2:24:36 GMT
Mary from Michigan. Bonanza Falls if you want to get specific. Scrappymomof3 on Two Peas. Why does it matter to you? Also who are you to demand someone's identity? That's a bully move and I haven't done anything but say an opinion that you don't agree with. Why and and how in the world is asking someone to identify with their previous 2peas identity a "bully" move? That is special sensitive snowflake liberal talk. LOL! If you think someone asking who you are is bullying, you have fewer social skills than my sons with autism. Eta: you are just pissed off because I know what is going on with the other board. I don't even understand what you are saying. It's a bully move because you said you wouldn't leave me alone until I told you. And now you are name calling. I asked who YOU are to demand anyone's identity. And I don't know about any other boards. Sorry. You might know what is going on, but I don't. |
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