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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 4:48:47 GMT
Do you ever read what you type? I am trumped up. You gal lost the election. I know you are pissed. Still doesn't change Trump is the president of USA. Trump hasn't made me entirely happy yet. When he stops the freebies I will be happy. I dont like the voucher program. I hope it doesn't happen. My parents sent me to a private school to get me away from the failed public education, if they give vouchers then the private schools will lose their credibility. Watcha talking 'bout Willis? You have completely lost me. My comment was to @bonanza about her fantasy that I was asking her about anything besides her previous identity. She seems to be imagining a girl-crush that isn't there.On another tack - do you even know what the term "trumped-up" means? Maybe they didn't cover it in your private school. Because you apparently didn't understand my public school use of it. I guess I should have read since the last time I posted, but all I can say is are you fucking kidding me? You demand to know over and over what my name is for days and I try to ignore you but when you promise you will stop, I give you the information you want. You are joking with the girl crush business. What is your obsession with me. No one else has asked and I haven't seen you ask anyone else. So stop. Leave me alone. Put me on ignore. I don't care. Just stop with this nonsense. I never paid much attention to anyone at Two Peas in a Bucket or here unless they were really mean. And you have become really mean spirited.
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Post by elaine on Feb 16, 2017 4:58:55 GMT
Elaine - can I ask what I have done or said to you to cause you to follow me around for days and demand that I tell you *who* I am other than have a differing opinion. I don't recall that I've ever addressed you on a post or called you names or even quoted you. But every time I've posted for the past few days, you have made demands. I don't get it. Do you not allow someone with an opposite opinion to post? I don't think I've called out anyone, been nasty or done anything except express an opinion that you don't share. I know I haven't been nasty to you personally. So what is your problem with me. Message boards are supposed to have a level of being anonymous but for some reason you and only you make demands to know who I am. I'm no one. I'm a poster here and a member of Two Peas that happens to have recently registered here because of family issues that happened before Two Peas in a Bucket shut down and ended recently. The only thread I started was about what role should Melania have and it wasn't nasty at all. I haven't made comments like *sorry you lost* or other mean comments to start arguments. But you have come after me for some reason. If you had been here the past 2.5 years, or just read upthread, you would have understood why I asked the ONE question as to who you were until you finally answered it. I haven't asked multiple questions, nor delved into your private life, as much as you and whomever you are chatting with want to blow it up into something it isn't. Reality check. Seriously, step back and read what I've actually asked you and what you keep putting out as to what I've asked. I haven't followed you around, you happen to seem to post on the same threads I am - should I assume and blame you of following me? If asking who you are is "coming after you," then NSBR isn't a great place to hang out - we are not for sissies and never have been. As to who I am? I have been an active participant here since day 2 and committed to this community. I have no issue, given the time and energy I've spent here, questioning who people are when they show up here and "miraculously" appear to know everyone here even though they just started posting - especially given different user names here and all from the original 2peas. If you can't understand that, then you have no idea what it feels like to be a part of a community.
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Post by flute4peace on Feb 16, 2017 5:10:33 GMT
Elaine, may I gently suggest that you take a deep breath & close your eyes, relax for just a bit. You usually make good contributions to these threads. This is unnecessary. From all sides.
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Post by elaine on Feb 16, 2017 5:11:41 GMT
Elaine, may I gently suggest that you take a deep breath & close your eyes, relax for just a bit. You usually make good contributions to these threads. This is unnecessary. From all sides. Thanks. Will do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 5:12:21 GMT
Elaine - can I ask what I have done or said to you to cause you to follow me around for days and demand that I tell you *who* I am other than have a differing opinion. I don't recall that I've ever addressed you on a post or called you names or even quoted you. But every time I've posted for the past few days, you have made demands. I don't get it. Do you not allow someone with an opposite opinion to post? I don't think I've called out anyone, been nasty or done anything except express an opinion that you don't share. I know I haven't been nasty to you personally. So what is your problem with me. Message boards are supposed to have a level of being anonymous but for some reason you and only you make demands to know who I am. I'm no one. I'm a poster here and a member of Two Peas that happens to have recently registered here because of family issues that happened before Two Peas in a Bucket shut down and ended recently. The only thread I started was about what role should Melania have and it wasn't nasty at all. I haven't made comments like *sorry you lost* or other mean comments to start arguments. But you have come after me for some reason. If you had been here the past 2.5 years, or just read upthread, you would have understood why I asked the ONE question as to who you were until you finally answered it. I haven't asked multiple questions, nor delved into your private life, as much as you and whomever you are chatting with want to blow it up into something it isn't. Reality check. Seriously, step back and read what I've actually asked you and what you keep putting out as to what I've asked. I haven't followed you around, you happen to seem to post on the same threads I am - should I assume and blame you of following me? If asking who you are is "coming after you," then NSBR isn't a great place to hang out - we are not for sissies and never have been. As to who I am? I have been an active participant here since day 2 and committed to this community. I have no issue, given the time and energy I've spent here, questioning who people are when they show up here and "miraculously" appear to know everyone here even though they just started posting - especially given different user names here and all from the original 2peas. If you can't understand that, then you have no idea what it feels like to be a part of a community. Until I finally answered it. That says it all right there. And one last time, I am not *chatting* with anyone. Nope, not following you. I haven't addressed you at all until tonight, but you have made demands of me over and over. I know exactly who everyone is. I was at Two Peas. I changed my name because I don't scrap anymore. I'm sorry you don't approve. Please just block me. Leave me alone. I am not the one that has questioned you over and over for the past week or two. And I can't believe that no one else is telling you to stop this mean girl act. (ETA: Thank you Flute4Peace. You posted while I was typing)
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Post by birdgate on Feb 16, 2017 5:39:35 GMT
Yes, he will be impeached. I think everyone's ready to get off the crazy train. We can't go on like this. Spies/intelligence keeping intel away from our president because he's untrustworthy. I'm sure our allies feel the same way too. The military, four star generals wondering WTF is going on, his insulting a new group of people on a daily basis, our government gone rouge. His incompetence and buffoonery will only last so long. I'm sure the Republicans are just focused on getting their bills signed and getting their fat cats in place right now before deeper shit hits the fan. I foresee plenty more leaks. Maybe Melania won't even have to move into the Whitehouse.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Feb 16, 2017 6:05:10 GMT
I dunno, but the degree of anger he seems to exhibit can't be good for his health. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he has a heart attack or a stroke if he keeps this up. Caveat: I am only on page 2 of the thread. My DH and I have just watched the Netanyahu /T press conference on the morning news. We both commented that DT looks exhausted or mildly ill. We think he is being drained by having to listen to dissent and criticism, possibly for the first time in his life. He harps on every little slight and obsesses on every actual or implied loss, he cannot restrain himself, hence his need to go into his electoral college numbers as a response to a question on anti semitism. Although he has always worked long hours, he is getting older. In business he was fed by sycophants and not crossed in any way. He still has the sycophants but the "fake news" and the "haters" are getting to him. He has to hold a rally in FLA this weekend to recharge his batteries with a good old dose of adulation. To answer the Q, as he blunders along on the road to possible impeachment, if he/his family and inner circle can somehow keep his batteries charged with victories and validation he will hang on. He will need plenty of people like Flynn to scapegoat so he can keep his unblemished record of never losing. On impeachment: his total belief in himself and his ability to bully others will help him. He doesn't scare easily but if enough incontrovertible evidence can be gathered to impeach him and if he believes the R structures are going to drop him, then and only then will he resign with some sort of face saving excuse, possibly medical or possibly related to his businesses needing him back. ETA: I believe he was so deluded about how big a fish he was that his little business pond and his reality TV pond were getting too small for him. He believed being POTUS would automatically (?) expose him to being loved by the whole of the US and large chunks of the rest of us. I believe he is truly shocked that the automatic respect didn't happen and that we can't or won't be convinced by his bluster. He has no frame of reference for what is happening to him. ETA2: another weakness I believe he has: he highly rates almost anyone who in turn rates him highly. He may not be able to filter out the insincere ones so he is far too easily manipulated. He also overpromotes or too quickly promotes people who think he is great, thus creating many of his own messes. Now he may even mess up the world as we know it.
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Post by elaine on Feb 16, 2017 6:15:01 GMT
I dunno, but the degree of anger he seems to exhibit can't be good for his health. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he has a heart attack or a stroke if he keeps this up. Caveat: I am only on page 2 of the thread. My DH and I have just watched the Netanyahu /T press conference on the morning news. We both commented that DT looks exhausted or mildly ill. We think he is being drained by having to listen to dissent and criticism, possibly for the first time in his life. He harps on every little slight and obsesses on every actual or implied loss, he cannot restrain himself, hence his need to go into his electoral college numbers as a response to a question on anti semitism. Although he has always worked long hours, he is getting older. In business he was fed by sycophants and not crossed in any way. He still has the sycophants but the "fake news" and the "haters" are getting to him. He has to hold a rally in FLA this weekend to recharge his batteries with a good old dose of adulation. To answer the Q, as he blunders along on the road to possible impeachment, if he/his family and inner circle can somehow keep his batteries charged with victories and validation he will hang on. He will need plenty of people like Flynn to scapegoat so he can keep his unblemished record of never losing. On impeachment: his total belief in himself and his ability to bully others will help him. He doesn't scare easily but if enough incontrovertible evidence can be gathered to impeach him and if he believes the R structures are going to drop him, then and only then will he resign with some sort of face saving excuse, possibly medical or possibly related to his businesses needing him back. I don't think psychologically he can force himself to resign. Every issue is seen as someone else's fault - never that he did anything wrong in the slightest. It is always, and always will be, someone else's fault. He will have to be impeached and indicted for him to step aside. I think treason is more likely than being found mentally unfit, but either is applicable.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Feb 16, 2017 7:09:27 GMT
If you had been here the past 2.5 years, or just read upthread, you would have understood why I asked the ONE question as to who you were until you finally answered it. I haven't asked multiple questions, nor delved into your private life, as much as you and whomever you are chatting with want to blow it up into something it isn't. Reality check. Seriously, step back and read what I've actually asked you and what you keep putting out as to what I've asked. I haven't followed you around, you happen to seem to post on the same threads I am - should I assume and blame you of following me? If asking who you are is "coming after you," then NSBR isn't a great place to hang out - we are not for sissies and never have been. As to who I am? I have been an active participant here since day 2 and committed to this community. I have no issue, given the time and energy I've spent here, questioning who people are when they show up here and "miraculously" appear to know everyone here even though they just started posting - especially given different user names here and all from the original 2peas. If you can't understand that, then you have no idea what it feels like to be a part of a community. Until I finally answered it. That says it all right there. And one last time, I am not *chatting* with anyone. Nope, not following you. I haven't addressed you at all until tonight, but you have made demands of me over and over. I know exactly who everyone is. I was at Two Peas. I changed my name because I don't scrap anymore. I'm sorry you don't approve. Please just block me. Leave me alone. I am not the one that has questioned you over and over for the past week or two. And I can't believe that no one else is telling you to stop this mean girl act. (ETA: Thank you Flute4Peace. You posted while I was typing) I will risk being handslapped to record a few "board facts" and fight for the board/community. All members are needed. All views add to knowledge and debate. As you were on the old board and away for about two years you don't know w ho everyone is. We have new people who were not on the old board. We particularly value people who were lurkers on the old board who post now. We have lost too many members, some quite recently, some of whom you will have known and may also miss. In this we include some who have passed away, some who have hair flipped and some who just faded away. The old board "tier" system doesn't get brought up here but some peas do stand out for their bravery, no nonsense stance on serious threads, daily contributions to dinner threads etc, and some just have that X factor (tried the French phrase but autocorrect made me crazy). elaine is one of them. They stand out and we are loyal to them. The current political atmosphere sometimes gets to the best of us. The re-registration under an alter thing has happened, it at one point bit a long term (dare I bring up labels like "conservative"?) Pea in the @$$ and makes us all suspicious. Like I think was being pointed out, I see some new peas who seem to have similar views to people recently "missing" and I wonder. We don't want NSBR to split into a political part and a non political part, just in case you didn't read the sticky. I see a lot of posters trying to be fair contributors without compromising their beliefs. This is far too preachy already, apologies, it was meant to be a summary of board history for someone who has been gone for two and a bit years and an appeal for all to stick around and contribute.
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Post by gar on Feb 16, 2017 7:57:12 GMT
Until I finally answered it. That says it all right there. And one last time, I am not *chatting* with anyone. Nope, not following you. I haven't addressed you at all until tonight, but you have made demands of me over and over. I know exactly who everyone is. I was at Two Peas. I changed my name because I don't scrap anymore. I'm sorry you don't approve. Please just block me. Leave me alone. I am not the one that has questioned you over and over for the past week or two. And I can't believe that no one else is telling you to stop this mean girl act. (ETA: Thank you Flute4Peace. You posted while I was typing) I will risk being handslapped to record a few "board facts" and fight for the board/community. All members are needed. All views add to knowledge and debate. As you were on the old board and away for about two years you don't know w ho everyone is. We have new people who were not on the old board. We particularly value people who were lurkers on the old board who post now. We have lost too many members, some quite recently, some of whom you will have known and may also miss. In this we include some who have passed away, some who have hair flipped and some who just faded away. The old board "tier" system doesn't get brought up here but some peas do stand out for their bravery, no nonsense stance on serious threads, daily contributions to dinner threads etc, and some just have that X factor (tried the French phrase but autocorrect made me crazy). elaine is one of them. They stand out and we are loyal to them. The current political atmosphere sometimes gets to the best of us. The re-registration under an alter thing has happened, it at one point bit a long term (dare I bring up labels like "conservative"?) Pea in the @$$ and makes us all suspicious. Like I think was being pointed out, I see some new peas who seem to have similar views to people recently "missing" and I wonder. We don't want NSBR to split into a political part and a non political part, just in case you didn't read the sticky. I see a lot of posters trying to be fair contributors without compromising their beliefs. This is far too preachy already, apologies, it was meant to be a summary of board history for someone who has been gone for two and a bit years and an appeal for all to stick around and contribute. Hear hear!
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 16, 2017 11:46:06 GMT
Too soon to tell. But expect more leaks and more crises.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Feb 16, 2017 12:28:24 GMT
I am beginning to believe that congress will lot impeach no matter what he does, unless there is massive turnover in the midterm elections.
What I find more and more possible is an assassination attempt. He is pissing off too many countries, and some of those have no reservations about taking out another country's leader.
And if he keeps attacking the intelligence community, I'm not so sure they would pass along threats to the SS if they heard about such plans.
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Post by elaine on Feb 16, 2017 12:50:06 GMT
I am beginning to believe that congress will lot impeach no matter what he does, unless there is massive turnover in the midterm elections. What I find more and more possible is an assassination attempt. He is pissing off too many countries, and some of those have no reservations about taking out another country's leader. And if he keeps attacking the intelligence community, I'm not so sure they would pass along threats to the SS if they heard about such plans. I keep going back and forth on an assassination attempt. It seems like he and those around him are the easiest administration to manipulate in history. All one has to do is cater to his sense of power/ego and that of those around him, and they seem ready to spill everything and make deals. So, governments with sophisticated intelligence agencies can and will set the groundwork to have a steady inflow of secret information and deals made away from normal channels and oversight. On the other hand, I don't know if that applies to Mexico, for example, and any Middle East countries that are predominantly Muslim and don't have oil, so have nothing to offer Trump that he personally wants or would profit from.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Feb 16, 2017 12:55:45 GMT
I'm sure the Republicans are just focused on getting their bills signed and getting their fat cats in place right now before deeper shit hits the fan. And when they're done with that, *then* they'll throw Trump and whomever else under the bus and say they saved the country.
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Post by Sarah*H on Feb 16, 2017 13:01:01 GMT
I think it was foolish for him to get on the wrong side of the CIA. And it makes me want to laugh at how cute he is, appointing a crony of Bannon to investigate the intelligence community. Good luck with that!
I think many of us have been taken aback at the degree of incompetence of the administration to date. I suspect that as staffing levels increase and these outsiders begin to get their footing as to how Washington works, the near daily gaffes will subside and impeachment talk will subside. If Congress were to do its job and assuming this Russian scandal doesn't go anywhere, it appears that there are already some serious questions about emoluments (particularly as to China) to investigate and at some point, these weekly jaunts to Mar-a-Lago are going to wear thin for even the most loyal supporters. So we'll see what happens to his approval numbers and whether they fall to a level that makes it safe for Rs to dump him without risking their own seats.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Feb 16, 2017 13:01:50 GMT
I dunno, but the degree of anger he seems to exhibit can't be good for his health. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he has a heart attack or a stroke if he keeps this up. Caveat: I am only on page 2 of the thread. My DH and I have just watched the Netanyahu /T press conference on the morning news. We both commented that DT looks exhausted or mildly ill. We think he is being drained by having to listen to dissent and criticism, possibly for the first time in his life. He harps on every little slight and obsesses on every actual or implied loss, he cannot restrain himself, hence his need to go into his electoral college numbers as a response to a question on anti semitism. Although he has always worked long hours, he is getting older. In business he was fed by sycophants and not crossed in any way. He still has the sycophants but the "fake news" and the "haters" are getting to him. He has to hold a rally in FLA this weekend to recharge his batteries with a good old dose of adulation. To answer the Q, as he blunders along on the road to possible impeachment, if he/his family and inner circle can somehow keep his batteries charged with victories and validation he will hang on. He will need plenty of people like Flynn to scapegoat so he can keep his unblemished record of never losing. On impeachment: his total belief in himself and his ability to bully others will help him. He doesn't scare easily but if enough incontrovertible evidence can be gathered to impeach him and if he believes the R structures are going to drop him, then and only then will he resign with some sort of face saving excuse, possibly medical or possibly related to his businesses needing him back. ETA: I believe he was so deluded about how big a fish he was that his little business pond and his reality TV pond were getting too small for him. He believed being POTUS would automatically (?) expose him to being loved by the whole of the US and large chunks of the rest of us. I believe he is truly shocked that the automatic respect didn't happen and that we can't or won't be convinced by his bluster. He has no frame of reference for what is happening to him. ETA2: another weakness I believe he has: he highly rates almost anyone who in turn rates him highly. He may not be able to filter out the insincere ones so he is far too easily manipulated. He also overpromotes or too quickly promotes people who think he is great, thus creating many of his own messes. Now he may even mess up the world as we know it. I'll just ditto this whole thing. Thanks, ScrapsontheRocks.
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Post by peano on Feb 16, 2017 13:47:53 GMT
I believe it's a distinct possibility. It will depend on how entangled things are with Russia, if anything could rise to the level of treason. There are many establishment Republicans who would love to see Trump go. He has very few enthusiastic supporters among them. The only one I could think of off the top of my head was Sessions, and he's not in the Senate any longer to stop a conviction if it came down to that. McCain, Collins and Graham would probably lead the charge to convict. But the House will be trickier. Mid-term elections will probably play a part if Trump lasts that long. Paul Ryan is obviously not a fan and has never been one. But as long as a significant chunk of the Republican house members think their re-election chances are better with Trump, I can't see him moving for impeachment - particularly as he doesn't have the ability to push it through without those members. Now if there is something that truly endangers the country, all bets are off. I know many on this board think all Republicans are immoral and only care about themselves, but I fundamentally disagree and would not expect Paul Ryan to sit on the sidelines if Trump was truly bringing us to nuclear armageddon. What, the decision of the intelligence community to decline to share intel with the Prez and the Prez's decision to ice out the bona fide news agencies in press conferences aren't enough for you? Maybe we need to add a filthy and pestilent administration neck-deep in an illicit relationship with Russia. Do the nukes actually have to be on their way over before you acknowledge that our country is in danger? If the Republicans succeed in having their way about just "moving on" past this Russia thing, I foresee a whole lotta pain for them in the name of lots more Chaffetz-style "do your job" town halls and marches that will dwarf the Women's March.
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Post by gar on Feb 16, 2017 13:54:03 GMT
I believe it's a distinct possibility. It will depend on how entangled things are with Russia, if anything could rise to the level of treason. There are many establishment Republicans who would love to see Trump go. He has very few enthusiastic supporters among them. The only one I could think of off the top of my head was Sessions, and he's not in the Senate any longer to stop a conviction if it came down to that. McCain, Collins and Graham would probably lead the charge to convict. But the House will be trickier. Mid-term elections will probably play a part if Trump lasts that long. Paul Ryan is obviously not a fan and has never been one. But as long as a significant chunk of the Republican house members think their re-election chances are better with Trump, I can't see him moving for impeachment - particularly as he doesn't have the ability to push it through without those members. Now if there is something that truly endangers the country, all bets are off. I know many on this board think all Republicans are immoral and only care about themselves, but I fundamentally disagree and would not expect Paul Ryan to sit on the sidelines if Trump was truly bringing us to nuclear armageddon. I would sincerely hope that someone has the balls to do something way before it actually gets that far!!!! Ye gods.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Feb 16, 2017 14:14:20 GMT
Colluding with the Russians merits at least the same scrutiny as getting a blow job in the Oval Office.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 14:21:24 GMT
Colluding with the Russians merits at least the same scrutiny as getting a blow job in the Oval Office. I don't think the rest of the world were particularly bothered by the second scenario but they most certainly are by the first!
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Post by beebee on Feb 16, 2017 14:41:41 GMT
Paul Ryan is obviously not a fan and has never been one. But as long as a significant chunk of the Republican house members think their re-election chances are better with Trump, I can't see him moving for impeachment - particularly as he doesn't have the ability to push it through without those members. Now if there is something that truly endangers the country, all bets are off. I know many on this board think all Republicans are immoral and only care about themselves, but I fundamentally disagree and would not expect Paul Ryan to sit on the sidelines if Trump was truly bringing us to nuclear armageddon. What, the decision of the intelligence community to decline to share intel with the Prez and the Prez's decision to ice out the bona fide news agencies in press conferences aren't enough for you? Maybe we need to add a filthy and pestilent administration neck-deep in an illicit relationship with Russia. Do the nukes actually have to be on their way over before you acknowledge that our country is in danger? If the Republicans succeed in having their way about just "moving on" past this Russia thing, I foresee a whole lotta pain for them in the name of lots more Chaffetz-style "do your job" town halls and marches that will dwarf the Women's March. "What, the decision of the intelligence community to decline to share intel with the Prez"So this subject was just on tv and I caught the last of it, but somebody (I did not catch their name) was saying that there is no evidence at this point that the intelligence community is declining to share intel with Trump because they don't trust him. The person on tv said that the press should not have reported this story because it has not been vetted as true. I would really like to know if this story is true or if the media is reporting negative and false information.
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Post by scorpeao on Feb 16, 2017 14:51:47 GMT
No I think there will be some fake/exaggerated "medical event" that will precipitate him stepping aside. Which he will spin into how wonderful he is to be such a great president! I'm changing my answer to this one... I think there'll be talk of an investigation during which he will step down due to medical issues.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 14:52:32 GMT
Paul Ryan is obviously not a fan and has never been one. But as long as a significant chunk of the Republican house members think their re-election chances are better with Trump, I can't see him moving for impeachment - particularly as he doesn't have the ability to push it through without those members. Now if there is something that truly endangers the country, all bets are off. I know many on this board think all Republicans are immoral and only care about themselves, but I fundamentally disagree and would not expect Paul Ryan to sit on the sidelines if Trump was truly bringing us to nuclear armageddon. What, the decision of the intelligence community to decline to share intel with the Prez and the Prez's decision to ice out the bona fide news agencies in press conferences aren't enough for you? Maybe we need to add a filthy and pestilent administration neck-deep in an illicit relationship with Russia. Do the nukes actually have to be on their way over before you acknowledge that our country is in danger? If the Republicans succeed in having their way about just "moving on" past this Russia thing, I foresee a whole lotta pain for them in the name of lots more Chaffetz-style "do your job" town halls and marches that will dwarf the Women's March. The bold/italicized is mine: This is not the first time a President/administration has iced out a news agency.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Feb 16, 2017 14:54:15 GMT
The person on tv said that the press should not have reported this story because it has not been vetted as true. I would really like to know if this story is true or if the media is reporting negative and false information. If it IS true (and my guess is, yeah, it probably is), they wouldn't want us to all know about that, and to believe it. So the fact that they're saying that it's NOT been verified doesn't mean anything, in my opinion. I do believe they aren't telling the White House everything. Why would they, after all that's happened, and all that's still to be investigated about his ties to Russia? But having the public believe that might not be a good thing; thus, the stressing of the 'unverified' aspect of it. (that probably didn't make any sense, lol, but I know what I mean...)
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Feb 16, 2017 15:08:21 GMT
Caveat: I am only on page 2 of the thread. My DH and I have just watched the Netanyahu /T press conference on the morning news. We both commented that DT looks exhausted or mildly ill. We think he is being drained by having to listen to dissent and criticism, possibly for the first time in his life. He harps on every little slight and obsesses on every actual or implied loss, he cannot restrain himself, hence his need to go into his electoral college numbers as a response to a question on anti semitism. Although he has always worked long hours, he is getting older. In business he was fed by sycophants and not crossed in any way. He still has the sycophants but the "fake news" and the "haters" are getting to him. He has to hold a rally in FLA this weekend to recharge his batteries with a good old dose of adulation. To answer the Q, as he blunders along on the road to possible impeachment, if he/his family and inner circle can somehow keep his batteries charged with victories and validation he will hang on. He will need plenty of people like Flynn to scapegoat so he can keep his unblemished record of never losing. On impeachment: his total belief in himself and his ability to bully others will help him. He doesn't scare easily but if enough incontrovertible evidence can be gathered to impeach him and if he believes the R structures are going to drop him, then and only then will he resign with some sort of face saving excuse, possibly medical or possibly related to his businesses needing him back. ETA: I believe he was so deluded about how big a fish he was that his little business pond and his reality TV pond were getting too small for him. He believed being POTUS would automatically (?) expose him to being loved by the whole of the US and large chunks of the rest of us. I believe he is truly shocked that the automatic respect didn't happen and that we can't or won't be convinced by his bluster. He has no frame of reference for what is happening to him. ETA2: another weakness I believe he has: he highly rates almost anyone who in turn rates him highly. He may not be able to filter out the insincere ones so he is far too easily manipulated. He also overpromotes or too quickly promotes people who think he is great, thus creating many of his own messes. Now he may even mess up the world as we know it. I'll just ditto this whole thing. Thanks, ScrapsontheRocks . I am honored. Your signature/ footer is a favourite.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 15:09:50 GMT
There will be no impeachment or even the Republicans telling trump no as long as they feel the way McConnell expressed himself this morning on Morning Joe. A recap is in this tweet.
"McConnell explains that a little Russian subversion and presidential corruption is a small price to pay for business-friendly regulation."
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 16, 2017 15:14:06 GMT
There will be no impeachment or even the Republicans telling trump no as long as they feel the way McConnell expressed himself this morning on Morning Joe. A recap is in this tweet. "McConnell explains that a little Russian subversion and presidential corruption is a small price to pay for business-friendly regulation." What the hell!?!?! How can he be for Russian involvement in our anything? How is this ok?
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Feb 16, 2017 15:16:12 GMT
There will be no impeachment or even the Republicans telling trump no as long as they feel the way McConnell expressed himself this morning on Morning Joe. A recap is in this tweet. "McConnell explains that a little Russian subversion and presidential corruption is a small price to pay for business-friendly regulation." I have used/ overused the British sitcom Victor Meldrew/ One foot in the Grave catchphrase so often in the last few months: I can't BELIEVE it! And my favourite emoticon too.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 16, 2017 15:16:30 GMT
What, the decision of the intelligence community to decline to share intel with the Prez and the Prez's decision to ice out the bona fide news agencies in press conferences aren't enough for you? Maybe we need to add a filthy and pestilent administration neck-deep in an illicit relationship with Russia. Do the nukes actually have to be on their way over before you acknowledge that our country is in danger? If the Republicans succeed in having their way about just "moving on" past this Russia thing, I foresee a whole lotta pain for them in the name of lots more Chaffetz-style "do your job" town halls and marches that will dwarf the Women's March. The bold/italicized is mine: This is not the first time a President/administration has iced out a news agency. If it was ONLY one news agency, that would be one thing. But it seems he's not wanting anything to do with ANY of the mainstream media, and only wants to give his time to the handful of far right outlets that paint him in a good light. Nothing good at all can come from that and the utter lack of transparency from this administration is horrifying to me.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 16, 2017 15:18:44 GMT
There will be no impeachment or even the Republicans telling trump no as long as they feel the way McConnell expressed himself this morning on Morning Joe. A recap is in this tweet. "McConnell explains that a little Russian subversion and presidential corruption is a small price to pay for business-friendly regulation." Wait... What? That's really rich.
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