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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 24, 2017 13:36:52 GMT
Colin K..SUCKS as a QB. That's why he is not playing.If he was that great, there's a few teams who have the need of a GREAT QB yet there he sits without a job. I hate TRUMP and this is going to backfire on him. I will not boycott the NFL especially now that 45 has said to. Idiot I think this too, and regarding his taking a knee--it's just easier for some to say that it's solely because of this that he isn't signed this year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 13:46:57 GMT
Watch millionaires playing for billionaires? No thanks. Way better ways to spend the time (for me, doesn't mean it's for everyone). I don't cheer for a team with millionaires playing for billionaires. I watch football to watch the team with over 360,000 shareholders. Go Pack! Packers are a little better because of their ownership structure But the rest, nope.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 24, 2017 13:55:25 GMT
I can’t start?boycotting what I have never had any interest in! I don’t like football. If I’m at a football game it’s for the 1/2 time band. LOL
I’ve never been to an NFL game and I’m not going to start now.
And wasn’t there som sort of lock out or something a few years ago? Or an argument with TV net works or something? Some blessing or other where I could watch my TV shows with out dealing with overtime bull crap from sports. Ahhh what ever that was it was nice.
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Post by Nink on Sept 24, 2017 14:31:08 GMT
I quit watching NFL games when they took Michael Vick back. I’ve always preferred watching college football anyway, but that was just one of many things that swung the pendulum to all college and no NFL for me.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Sept 24, 2017 14:36:41 GMT
I'll boycott with you! I mean I hate football regardless so I will support any NFL boycott. CFL, too! I have never been at all interested in football. I didn't grow up watching (my parents weren't interested), and I don't get the appeal as an adult. When the head injury information started coming out a few years ago, I think I likely would have stopped enjoying watching if I were already watching. This is another reason why I hate football. The whole head injury "thing" that has come out from playing contact sports such as football makes me glad DS never played. I don't get the tackling and the knocking people over violently for fun. It upsets me to see men get injured and have to be taken off the field. I also don't love the swearing at the TV that happens during NFL. Some people get really involved in a game and they are sitting there on the couch watching it from afar.
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Sept 24, 2017 14:41:51 GMT
He had the chance to play. He was offered a contract and he turned it down. Nobody's fault but his own. His performance outside of his political stance and protesting has more to do with that than anything. He could be playing. It would have been a drastic reduction in what he think's he's worth and he would have had to work very hard to prove he deserved to stay with the team and earn more money, but he had a contract. HE walked away from it because he feels he is worth more. If I truly wanted to play the game and were in his shoes, I would have taken the contract, kicked everyones ass at the game and laughed all the way to the bank the next year. Of course I wouldn't have given up a sure thing with 14 million and gotten out of my contract early but what do I know...I don't play.
A team is only as good as their QB. He is not a good leader. That being said...the NFL is only as good as their leaders and their players. I blame the head of the NFL for the mess they are in. I don't understand how he stays in that position. If anything I am more disappointed in the league for the way the have handled other things. Kneeling during the anthem isn't even the most pressing issue. I want the teams to hold their players to a higher standard. I want them to take the conduct of their players on and off the field more seriously. Yes it will always be about money. That's what sports is about if you look at any of them, even my beloved motorcycle racing. It comes down to money. But that doesn't mean you can't hold your players to a higher standard and be consistent.
Im not watching football because I will be out of the house all day, but I just tuned in for a few minutes and it was all about the kneeling and not about the game. I might be an accidental boycotter because I refuse to sit and listen to it. We will see what happens next week when Im home on my regular schedule.
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Post by justkat on Sept 24, 2017 14:43:48 GMT
Not me. I'm prepping for our game day party as I type. ☺ Go Steelers!!
As for Kapernick (sp?)... It's my opinion that's he's not been signed because he sucks. If it's the other? Well,imo,your job isn't the place for political protest.
No boycott here...go Steelers. ☺
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Post by valleyview on Sept 24, 2017 14:59:19 GMT
The Jaguars' owner took a knee with his team this morning at their game. The coach of the Ravens (John Harbaugh) also knelt with his team.
I'll add that the Jaguars' owner gave money to the Trump inaugural fund, so we cannot accuse him of being anti-president.
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Post by gardengoddess on Sept 24, 2017 15:50:57 GMT
I haven't watched pro football except for the Super Bowl and then that depends on the teams playing in years. That said, I hope every NFL team in the country takes a knee just to piss off the White House dweller.
I'm more concerned about the NFL refusal (I'm looking at YOU Roger Goodell) to admit that CTE exists and to do what college football has done with the new targeting penalty.
I just saw on the news this morning that the Oakland A's catcher Bruce Maxwell took a knee yesterday and that an entire high school team did in solidarity Friday night.
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Post by basketdiva on Sept 24, 2017 16:01:18 GMT
We are college football watchers and sometimes turn on a pro game. It's getting ridiculous with all these people jumping on the bandwagon to show support for the players that starting the kneeling or to show disapproval of Trump's tweets. The announcers need to just stop focusing on this issue and announce the game.
Personally I don't care what the players do before a game. If I watch, it's to see and hear about a football game.Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and so long as their actions don't break any laws or harm anyone, I'll go on with my life.
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Post by dillydally on Sept 24, 2017 16:03:18 GMT
The boycott seems to be from both sides. Some people are boycotting because players are taking a knee. Others are boycotting because of the way players taking a knee are being treated. When attendance is down, which side gets the blame/credit? That's what I'm wondering.
I've never been a huge "sit-down-and-watch" fan (I can't sit still that long), but ever since I saw the movie concussion and heard Bennet Omalu speak, I can't watch without thinking about the damage they could be doing. That makes watching a lot less fun.
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Post by christine58 on Sept 24, 2017 16:05:36 GMT
He had the chance to play. He was offered a contract and he turned it down. Nobody's fault but his own. His performance outside of his political stance and protesting has more to do with that than anything. He could be playing. It would have been a drastic reduction in what he think's he's worth and he would have had to work very hard to prove he deserved to stay with the team and earn more money, but he had a contract. HE walked away from it because he feels he is worth more. If I truly wanted to play the game and were in his shoes, I would have taken the contract, kicked everyones ass at the game and laughed all the way to the bank the next year. Of course I wouldn't have given up a sure thing with 14 million and gotten out of my contract early but what do I know...I don't play. A team is only as good as their QB. He is not a good leader. That being said...the NFL is only as good as their leaders and their players. I blame the head of the NFL for the mess they are in. I don't understand how he stays in that position. If anything I am more disappointed in the league for the way the have handled other things. Kneeling during the anthem isn't even the most pressing issue. I want the teams to hold their players to a higher standard. I want them to take the conduct of their players on and off the field more seriously. Yes it will always be about money. That's what sports is about if you look at any of them, even my beloved motorcycle racing. It comes down to money. But that doesn't mean you can't hold your players to a higher standard and be consistent. Im not watching football because I will be out of the house all day, but I just tuned in for a few minutes and it was all about the kneeling and not about the game. I might be an accidental boycotter because I refuse to sit and listen to it. We will see what happens next week when Im home on my regular schedule. AMEN!! He walked away from a HUGE ass contract from the '49ers!
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 24, 2017 16:09:28 GMT
Me and my husband; plus according to all my friends, they are also.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 16:10:08 GMT
Just read the Pittsburgh Steelers have decided to not go on the field until after the Anthem.
So I gotta wonder now, with the 10 year olds kneeling, high schoolers kneeling, the baseball player kneeling, skipping out on the Anthem, etc.--what's the reasoning? Is it in support of Kaepernick's original protest? Is it because Kaepernick hasn't been signed? Is it because of Trump's uninviting Curry? Or is it because of Trump's comments about the NFL? Or, is it just anti-Trump?
It's all a bit muddy now.
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 24, 2017 16:12:39 GMT
It's because people are sheep. They think it's cool. I'm willing to bet the 10 year olds are clueless and the adults are just sheeple.
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Post by janeliz on Sept 24, 2017 16:27:40 GMT
Just read the Pittsburgh Steelers have decided to not go on the field until after the Anthem. So I gotta wonder now, with the 10 year olds kneeling, high schoolers kneeling, the baseball player kneeling, skipping out on the Anthem, etc.--what's the reasoning? Is it in support of Kaepernick's original protest? Is it because Kaepernick hasn't been signed? Is it because of Trump's uninviting Curry? Or is it because of Trump's comments about the NFL? Or, is it just anti-Trump? It's all a bit muddy now. How is it muddy? In the case of the Steelers, their coach has stated that he doesn't want his players to feel forced to choose a side. "We're not going to play politics. We're football players, football coaches." Oakland A's catcher Bruce Maxwell explained his reasoning in a public statement. Colin Kaepernick has made his motivations clear.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 16:37:50 GMT
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Post by elaine on Sept 24, 2017 16:40:19 GMT
Not me. I'm prepping for our game day party as I type. ☺ Go Steelers!! As for Kapernick (sp?)... It's my opinion that's he's not been signed because he sucks. If it's the other? Well,imo,your job isn't the place for political protest. No boycott here...go Steelers. ☺ The whole Steelers team is staying in the locker room until after the anthem today.
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Post by azredhead on Sept 24, 2017 16:43:15 GMT
There are plenty of people who will watch today to see what happens. Our “jobs” President isn’t thinking about all the people whose livelihood is tied to the games! Nice work making Americna Great Again. Yes but they forget that we put the money in their pockets buy their merchandise and tickets to the games and that stuff's not cheap.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 16:44:45 GMT
Just read the Pittsburgh Steelers have decided to not go on the field until after the Anthem. So I gotta wonder now, with the 10 year olds kneeling, high schoolers kneeling, the baseball player kneeling, skipping out on the Anthem, etc.--what's the reasoning? Is it in support of Kaepernick's original protest? Is it because Kaepernick hasn't been signed? Is it because of Trump's uninviting Curry? Or is it because of Trump's comments about the NFL? Or, is it just anti-Trump? It's all a bit muddy now. How is it muddy? In the case of the Steelers, their coach has stated that he doesn't want his players to feel forced to choose a side. "We're not going to play politics. We're football players, football coaches." Oakland A's catcher Bruce Maxwell explained his reasoning in a public statement. Colin Kaepernick has made his motivations clear. I guess you're right. But when it was just Kaepernick, the focus and coverage was on his reasoning. Now, more and more are doing it, but not all for the same reasons. I guess kneeling is going to be the new way to protest, which I'll take over the violence. I just don't know how much energy people are going to put in to researching the "why" for it to matter to anybody. Having said that, maybe those protesting like this don't care if people know "why" they're doing it.
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Post by Nanner on Sept 24, 2017 16:52:26 GMT
For those of you who say Kap isn't signed because he sucks...how do you explain the Dolphins signing freaking JAY CUTLER who admitted that he wasn't in shape and didn't plan to get in shape? Or those who seriously looked at Johnny Manziel? If you don't think Kap is being overlooked because of his stance on social causes, you aren't looking very hard. Kap DOES suck and I do believe that's why he wasn't signed. But yes, Cutler sucks too. Big time. I think the Dolpins were absolutely NUTS to sign that one. I can't see Manziel getting signed anywhere. They may have looked at him, but I can't see it happening.
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Post by chances on Sept 24, 2017 17:15:51 GMT
Just read the Pittsburgh Steelers have decided to not go on the field until after the Anthem. So I gotta wonder now, with the 10 year olds kneeling, high schoolers kneeling, the baseball player kneeling, skipping out on the Anthem, etc.--what's the reasoning? Is it in support of Kaepernick's original protest? Is it because Kaepernick hasn't been signed? Is it because of Trump's uninviting Curry? Or is it because of Trump's comments about the NFL? Or, is it just anti-Trump? It's all a bit muddy now. It is kind of muddy, I'd be interested to see what people are thinking. However, kneeling has always been about bringing attention to police brutality.
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Post by janeliz on Sept 24, 2017 17:16:21 GMT
How is it muddy? In the case of the Steelers, their coach has stated that he doesn't want his players to feel forced to choose a side. "We're not going to play politics. We're football players, football coaches." Oakland A's catcher Bruce Maxwell explained his reasoning in a public statement. Colin Kaepernick has made his motivations clear. I guess you're right. But when it was just Kaepernick, the focus and coverage was on his reasoning. Now, more and more are doing it, but not all for the same reasons. I guess kneeling is going to be the new way to protest, which I'll take over the violence. I just don't know how much energy people are going to put in to researching the "why" for it to matter to anybody. Having said that, maybe those protesting like this don't care if people know "why" they're doing it. I get what you're saying. In any form of protest there are people who participate to bring attention to an issue they care about, and there are others who participate as a show of unity. I think that's what we're seeing a lot of this weekend.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 24, 2017 17:19:29 GMT
I am not boycotting the NFL.
I am boycotting games where such flagrant disrespect for those who fight for the right to be publicly disrespected is allowed to go unchallenged.
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Post by cmpeter on Sept 24, 2017 17:53:03 GMT
How did the anthem at sporting events even start? Why is that some ride or die place to express our love for country and support for our troops? I have an immense amount love and respect but am not bothered or offended by folks kneeling during the anthem.
No boycotting here. I am proud of the stance our team has taken, both this year and last. I support anyone's right to peaceful protest. Be that a football player who kneels or a fan who decides to boycott.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 17:54:00 GMT
Just read the Pittsburgh Steelers have decided to not go on the field until after the Anthem. So I gotta wonder now, with the 10 year olds kneeling, high schoolers kneeling, the baseball player kneeling, skipping out on the Anthem, etc.--what's the reasoning? Is it in support of Kaepernick's original protest? Is it because Kaepernick hasn't been signed? Is it because of Trump's uninviting Curry? Or is it because of Trump's comments about the NFL? Or, is it just anti-Trump? It's all a bit muddy now. It is kind of muddy, I'd be interested to see what people are thinking. However, kneeling has always been about bringing attention to police brutality.I didn't know that, tfs!
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 24, 2017 17:55:03 GMT
Just as many, if not more in most cases, stood for the anthem today. Where is the backing of those people?
This country is so simple minded. Do I like the disrespect of the flag? Absolutely not. I goes against everything I was brought up to believe. But it is their right. We don't own these people. In this country you are not made to go see a military parade or to salute the president or flag unless we are in the military. In this country we have the right to choose what we do. Isn't that part of what we celebrate as a Free Nation?
Forcing someone to stand, threatening their job (when you aren't the employer, but the president) makes us just like any communist or militant country.
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Post by dillydally on Sept 24, 2017 18:01:48 GMT
How did the anthem at sporting events even start? Why is that some ride or die place to express our love for country and support for our troops? I have an immense amount love and respect but am not bothered or offended by folks kneeling during the anthem. No boycotting here. I am proud of the stance our team has taken, both this year and last. I support anyone's right to peaceful protest. Be that a football player who kneels or a fan who decides to boycott. I was wondering that as well. I'd say the easy thing would be for the NFL to stop playing the anthem before games - but then I'm sure there would be a protest about them not being patriotic.
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Post by trollie on Sept 24, 2017 18:07:30 GMT
Nope. Not an NFL watcher, but this is making me want to support the NFL.
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Post by dillydally on Sept 24, 2017 18:10:34 GMT
Me and my husband; plus according to all my friends, they are also. But for which reason? I think that is the problem now; people are boycotting the NFL because they think Kaepernik got a bad deal, or they are boycotting the NFL because the NFL isn't laying the law down on the kneelers. So seems like either way, there will be boycotters.
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