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Post by MaryPea on Jul 3, 2018 21:05:32 GMT
I don’t doubt people in their group are subscribing. However I never heard of them until it was mentioned here and if they are behind paywalls and hidden groups how do the get new listeners? Bingo! This is the question that they didn’t even think about. So short-sighted.
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Post by peachiceteas on Jul 3, 2018 21:21:19 GMT
I would rather pay $5 a month to not have to listen to Tracie Claiborne’s voice
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Post by scrappyem on Jul 3, 2018 21:37:05 GMT
I would rather pay $5 a month to not have to listen to Tracie Claiborne’s voice
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Post by lasteve1 on Jul 3, 2018 22:21:19 GMT
Sorry, Awesome Ladies Podcast. I know they are hit or miss for some, but I like them. Agree they are learning as they go. Is this the Crafty Ass Females podcast? Because I thought that and the Awesome Ladies Project website were both run by Rukristin? Is there a second podcast by her? Or is this something different? SaveSave
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Post by teacherlisa on Jul 3, 2018 22:43:33 GMT
Sorry, Awesome Ladies Podcast. I know they are hit or miss for some, but I like them. Agree they are learning as they go. Is this the Crafty Ass Females podcast? Because I thought that and the Awesome Ladies Project website were both run by Rukristin? Is there a second podcast by her? Or is this something different? SaveSavethey are the same
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Post by artisticscrapper on Jul 4, 2018 4:09:12 GMT
I’d already posted on the other thread before I saw this one. Will this mean that they will no longer be hitting up their fans for donations and gifts? Yeah, right.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 4:49:20 GMT
I don't mind paying for podcasts. I pay for 2 - one work, one personal. (no way I would pay to listen to those hen cackles of TC's though)
Both of the p'casts I pay for offer some free and some paid content.
SG are being short-sighted to make all content pay-only.
But then......
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Post by wonderwoman on Jul 4, 2018 5:36:25 GMT
They would have to pay me to endure her voice ! I tried to listen when they first started but her voice is like nails on a chalk board to me...
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Jul 4, 2018 10:07:37 GMT
SG are being short-sighted to make all content pay-only. But then...... I agree. I think a much smarter model would have been something like one free podcast per month and three restricted to their paid membership each month. That way you can draw in new listeners and convert them to subscribers while still creating value for money within that membership. I'm actually a little disappointed as I still listened to their podcast and enjoyed it for the most part. Although I'll miss it I'm far too sane to pay (in my local currency) $7 a month for it. Besides, based on the following comment from their facebook group, they clearly don't need me:
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Post by christinec68 on Jul 4, 2018 10:38:22 GMT
SG are being short-sighted to make all content pay-only. But then...... I agree. I think a much smarter model would have been something like one free podcast per month and three restricted to their paid membership each month. That way you can draw in new listeners and convert them to subscribers while still creating value for money within that membership. I'm actually a little disappointed as I still listened to their podcast and enjoyed it for the most part. Although I'll miss it I'm far too sane to pay (in my local currency) $7 a month for it. Besides, based on the following comment from their facebook group, they clearly don't need me: This isn’t the first time she said something like that and I don’t understand anyone in business ok with losing potential income. Their new setup is going to make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to bring in new customers so to go into this with that attitude says that this is just a hobby to them and they’re only looking to cover their costs and maybe a little extra. But I caved and listened to the exciting announcement and it’s laughable that their exciting content for the group is focused chats, monthly challenges and online crops. I’m in at least three other groups that do the exact same thing with admin who provided free content like videos, cut files, etc. None of them have drama. None of them have rules about when and where you can share projects, etc. None of the admins of the group ever called anyone out for “behaving badly”. It’s a shame because they were filling a gap left by PRT but it all went sideways. Not sure if they tried to do too much, too soon. Just saw dollar signs. Got caught up in the fan girl stuff. But now it’s basically a paid private/secret club and I think that part is kind of sad.
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Post by Citygirl on Jul 4, 2018 12:53:12 GMT
Even though she claims to have worked in advertising her business sense seems lacking. I don't understand why they couldn't just have paid sponsors to cover the costs. They are pretty much one of the only scrapbooking podcasts how hard would it be to find sponsors? They already had some lined up for their retreats which are no longer happening. I don't see what they have to market to people anymore. 🤷♀️ I do still listen to them while crafting so it's kind of a disappointment.
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Post by crafty on Jul 4, 2018 14:04:02 GMT
They are only responding on the thread to those that are positive. There's one woman (I won't post names over here) that is obviously trying to be the third scrap gal She's a bit over the top. I did find this post interesting:
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Post by scrappysue222 on Jul 4, 2018 14:12:32 GMT
I wanted to share this exchange: Poster: Any chance that you can share future guests and topics to help us make a decision? Fangirl response: The quality/guests/topics of the last 271 episodes should be enough 😛 (Other responses and discusioon, some supportive of the OP’s question) Tracie: Our plans are to continue our current model which is a mix of 1) the two of us discussing current and relevant topics as they arise in our group and the industry, 2) spotlight regular scrappers who are our listeners to get their opinion on our awesome hobby and 3) well-known scrappers who grant us the opportunity to gain insight into memory keeping by their expertise. We never decide topics well in advance, we stay current with what is happening and what's inspiring us at the moment. As [fangirl] said above, we are just continuing our current model. Our show has been downloaded and played 1.5 million times and that doesn't even count the saved shows that are replayed from a device so we think that's a successful model to follow. Original Poster response: I thought that since your announcement stated that you had “a great lineup of show topics and guests coming up soon” that you could share some of those to help those who are on the fence. I love this response. So typical of TC to post something that is stretching truth/reality.
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Post by mom on Jul 4, 2018 14:41:20 GMT
I agree. I think a much smarter model would have been something like one free podcast per month and three restricted to their paid membership each month. That way you can draw in new listeners and convert them to subscribers while still creating value for money within that membership. I'm actually a little disappointed as I still listened to their podcast and enjoyed it for the most part. Although I'll miss it I'm far too sane to pay (in my local currency) $7 a month for it. Besides, based on the following comment from their facebook group, they clearly don't need me: This isn’t the first time she said something like that and I don’t understand anyone in business ok with losing potential income. Their new setup is going to make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to bring in new customers so to go into this with that attitude says that this is just a hobby to them and they’re only looking to cover their costs and maybe a little extra. But I caved and listened to the exciting announcement and it’s laughable that their exciting content for the group is focused chats, monthly challenges and online crops. I’m in at least three other groups that do the exact same thing with admin who provided free content like videos, cut files, etc. None of them have drama. None of them have rules about when and where you can share projects, etc. None of the admins of the group ever called anyone out for “behaving badly”. It’s a shame because they were filling a gap left by PRT but it all went sideways. Not sure if they tried to do too much, too soon. Just saw dollar signs. Got caught up in the fan girl stuff. But now it’s basically a paid private/secret club and I think that part is kind of sad. Yep. They've basically made themselves into a fraternity. FratGals, instead of ScrapGals. SaveSave
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Post by mom on Jul 4, 2018 14:43:50 GMT
Even though she claims to have worked in advertising her business sense seems lacking. I don't understand why they couldn't just have paid sponsors to cover the costs. They are pretty much one of the only scrapbooking podcasts how hard would it be to find sponsors? They already had some lined up for their retreats which are no longer happening. I don't see what they have to market to people anymore. 🤷♀️ I do still listen to them while crafting so it's kind of a disappointment. I'd just love to know exactly how she worked in advertising? As a secretary? She has zero business sense. There is no way she has real world experience in Advertising and running a business. SaveSave
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Post by riversong1963 on Jul 4, 2018 14:51:58 GMT
I'm not surprised. I know people who are like this IRL. As soon as the current venture becomes "work" and requires some dedication, and the money isn't pouring in, they bail and take on something new. It's a cycle. The SGs have made it very obvious that money is the most important thing to them - money and a small herd of sheep to follow them. There's nothing wrong with making money. That's what a business is for. But to shove that greed down everyone's throat at every turn is a very poor business model. So is shifting gears every time things get a little challenging. It takes an average of 3 years for a business to become profitable, but Tracie can't seem to give it 3 months without making major changes at every bump in the road. She will never be a success with this attitude, and she will wander throughout the industry, her sheep following close behind. She's a wanna-be who never will be. She doesn't have what it takes to be a success in business. I'm not sure I do either, but I'm trying, and I'm not letting greed be my guide.
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Post by teacherlisa on Jul 4, 2018 15:05:46 GMT
I wanted to share this exchange: Poster: Any chance that you can share future guests and topics to help us make a decision? Fangirl response: The quality/guests/topics of the last 271 episodes should be enough 😛 (Other responses and discusioon, some supportive of the OP’s question) Tracie: Our plans are to continue our current model which is a mix of 1) the two of us discussing current and relevant topics as they arise in our group and the industry, 2) spotlight regular scrappers who are our listeners to get their opinion on our awesome hobby and 3) well-known scrappers who grant us the opportunity to gain insight into memory keeping by their expertise. We never decide topics well in advance, we stay current with what is happening and what's inspiring us at the moment. As [fangirl] said above, we are just continuing our current model. Our show has been downloaded and played 1.5 million times and that doesn't even count the saved shows that are replayed from a device so we think that's a successful model to follow. Original Poster response: I thought that since your announcement stated that you had “a great lineup of show topics and guests coming up soon” that you could share some of those to help those who are on the fence. I love this response. So typical of TC to post something that is stretching truth/reality. yeah. I saw this too. To me, that answer is really sketchy. Are there plans or not? I have continued to listen to the podcast (for whatever reason, FOMO probably) and participate in the FB group. I have been evaluating a lot of things in my life recently, including how much time I spend on social media, and how much "insipration" I can handle. There really are so many places to get inspiration, and really I think I have been "having too much of a good thing" in that respect. My original thought was to think about subscribing...but I was really not feeling great about it. As I saw her responses to people I decided I was for sure not subscribing. Then came the choice about staying in the group, continuing to follow her on social media etc. I think I am going to leave the group and not follow anyone involved. I'm not angry, she can choose to do whatever she wants/thinks is best-and I can do the same
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Post by mom on Jul 4, 2018 15:11:36 GMT
They are only responding on the thread to those that are positive. There's one woman (I won't post names over here) that is obviously trying to be the third scrap gal She's a bit over the top. I did find this post interesting: Well, we all know they aren't welcoming of everyone.... SaveSave
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Post by scrappyem on Jul 4, 2018 16:14:29 GMT
Even though she claims to have worked in advertising her business sense seems lacking. I don't understand why they couldn't just have paid sponsors to cover the costs. They are pretty much one of the only scrapbooking podcasts how hard would it be to find sponsors? They already had some lined up for their retreats which are no longer happening. I don't see what they have to market to people anymore. 🤷♀️ I do still listen to them while crafting so it's kind of a disappointment. I'd just love to know exactly how she worked in advertising? As a secretary? She has zero business sense. There is no way she has real world experience in Advertising and running a business. SaveSave Absolutely no way she has any business experience.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 17:37:40 GMT
Even though she claims to have worked in advertising her business sense seems lacking. I don't understand why they couldn't just have paid sponsors to cover the costs. They are pretty much one of the only scrapbooking podcasts how hard would it be to find sponsors? They already had some lined up for their retreats which are no longer happening. I don't see what they have to market to people anymore. 🤷♀️ I do still listen to them while crafting so it's kind of a disappointment. I'd just love to know exactly how she worked in advertising? As a secretary? She has zero business sense. There is no way she has real world experience in Advertising and running a business. SaveSaveShe was a receptionist in an advertising agency some 20 years ago, at the beginning of her work career.
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Post by Citygirl on Jul 4, 2018 17:51:43 GMT
Why does she keep clinging to the 1.5 million stat? Does she think that's how many listeners they have? The Facebook group doesn't even have 10k followers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 17:58:42 GMT
Why does she keep clinging to the 1.5 million stat? Does she think that's how many listeners they have? The Facebook group doesn't even have 10k followers. She's probably thinking about all the lost revenue she could have gotten her hands on had she been charging all along.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 18:00:50 GMT
It’s 1.5 million downloads of all the 200 shows combined. This was an interesting response too:
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Post by mom on Jul 4, 2018 18:21:02 GMT
Why does she keep clinging to the 1.5 million stat? Does she think that's how many listeners they have? The Facebook group doesn't even have 10k followers. She's probably thinking about all the lost revenue she could have gotten her hands on had she been charging all along. She is delusional if she thinks all 1.5 million are 1) all 1.5 million different people (vs. the same 1000 people just re-listening multiple times 2) all the people will pay to continue listening. I will listen to just about anything for free. But I am not paying to hear some self-appointed Southern scrapbook queen talk about techniques, hobbies, and other scrapbook related issues that Tracie could only dream of accomplishing. At the end of the day, she is only a mediocre scrapbooker - AT BEST- and she could stand to listen (and learn) 2x as much as she talks. But no. In her self appointed role as Ms Know It All, she yaps about things she has no clue about and then sounds like a buffoon in the process with no credibility. SaveSave
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Post by mom on Jul 4, 2018 18:23:35 GMT
Question: they collected money from people to produce the content before. Is it really ethical to charge for that content now? Hasn't it already been paid for? I know ethics isn't something Tracie (and I am beginning to think Tiffany as well) have in her wheelhouse, but I'd think those who donated before would be upset that they are having to now subscribe to get those podcasts.
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Post by teacherlisa on Jul 4, 2018 18:31:39 GMT
Question: they collected money from people to produce the content before. Is it really ethical to charge for that content now? Hasn't it already been paid for? I know ethics isn't something Tracie (and I am beginning to think Tiffany as well) have in her wheelhouse, but I'd think those who donated before would be upset that they are having to now subscribe to get those podcasts. i agree with this! Isn't their fundraising campaign in September every year? People already gave and now have to pay again, to listen to what they already paid for once. She is claiming that they had to move right now because of technical issues ( I do believe there was a legit issue) but charging people is nuts.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 4, 2018 19:57:09 GMT
I have no dog in this fight, but I’ll admit to being petty enough to hope their podcast crashes and burns within the next year.
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Post by all5ofme on Jul 4, 2018 21:29:01 GMT
This is like a bad car accident that you can't look away from.
Tracie is trying to create her own little universe where everybody just loves her and thinks she's the best thing since sliced bread. We all know she cannot handle any type of criticisim (constructive or otherwise) because she immediately goes in attack and block mode when there is something she doesn't like.
She probably has to come up with some kind of income since her daughter has graduated from homeschooling. She's greedy and Tiffany is such a people pleaser, she won't say no.
Looks like they gave no thought into this even though they said they did. A lot of their international listeners are very unhappy because it would be very costly for them. I guess they didn't even consider that. A lot of people are asking questions regarding getting access and they don't have a lot of the answers or have to get back to them.
I don't know of anyone who offers only paid content regarding scrapbookiing. How do you expect to get new 'listeners'? PRT was always free, but they offered paid content. Look at what some YouTubers do, free videos and paid content on the side. If you look at how they've done things in the past, it so obvious they know nothing about business. This will be another failed venture.... such as their retreats and that very expensive creative escape that never happened.
Why o why would anyone pay for content when Tracie admits how little she actually scrapbooks? And seriously, an hour podcast talking about glue? Um, no thanks. I think they will finally fade off into the sunsent.... fingers crossed.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 4, 2018 22:35:40 GMT
I'd just love to know exactly how she worked in advertising? As a secretary? She has zero business sense. There is no way she has real world experience in Advertising and running a business. She was a receptionist in an advertising agency some 20 years ago, at the beginning of her work career. Y'all, if this is how we're retelling our career stories, I've worked in the medical field alongside surgeons!
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Post by breetheflea on Jul 4, 2018 22:53:18 GMT
I followed them on Facebook because it's about the only place left to hear about scrapbooking besides here. I'd rather spend my money on supplies though so I unsubscribed since who wants to hear about a podcast you can't listen to.
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