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Post by threecs on Jul 3, 2018 18:50:34 GMT
$5/month, which doesn't seem like a lot. If you can't afford that you can hang out with them on FB.
Anyone surprised?
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 3, 2018 18:52:27 GMT
Considering I stopped listening when it was free? It will be interesting to see how many fans are willing to actually pay monthly.
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Post by teacherlisa on Jul 3, 2018 18:56:00 GMT
I have not listened to todays episode. Did they go to patreon? Is there no free content?
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Post by scrappyesq on Jul 3, 2018 19:16:39 GMT
What?
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Post by teacherlisa on Jul 3, 2018 19:16:55 GMT
NVM I just checked FB. There will be no free content as far as podcasts and they claim there will be new free content within the group...group activities and such. I have not decided 100% for sure what I am going to do, but I will probably leave the group and not pay for the podcast. I pay for another podcast that I listen to, so its not that I refuse to pay people for their content...its just that this one rubs me the wrong way. They barely collected money in their once a year fundraising campaign.
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Post by joyfulnana on Jul 3, 2018 19:23:42 GMT
No patreon. They are on beanpod or whatever. And all the podcasts have been moved. No free content at. all. I feel sure they will follow suit with the FB group before long. Or move the community entirely.
The entitlement is strong in these two. I’m glad I left the FB group and stopped listening to the podcast long ago
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Post by christinec68 on Jul 3, 2018 19:35:01 GMT
That's a hilarious in a delusional they're bananas way.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jul 3, 2018 19:37:11 GMT
This is hilarious. She's realized she isn't as popular as she once was because people see that she is either a terrible person or a terrible business operator...perhaps both...so she is squeezing every last cent out of those still hanging on. I haven't listened in ages (long before her tirade against the peas) because the content was no longer enjoyable to me. I actually only listened for a couple of months (this included new content and going back for older ones) and lost interest.
Wonder how long it will be until Tiffany and Tracie are going to have to quietly meet up for lunch again without making money for doing it because the podcast folds from lack of subscribers? Wonder if they will be able to get guests (who probably won't get paid even though they'd be the ones listeners want to hear from) or if it will be just the 2 of them discussing things that are unlikely to be scrapbooking related more than half the time. Wonder if they'll even bother meeting up if they aren't being paid to associate with one another?
On 2nd thought, nope...I don't care enough to wonder beyond those initial musings and don't really care or want answers to those questions, either. They are barely 'scrap celebs' at this point and most of that is in their own heads. The only reason we (or at least I) discuss them here so much is because I'm waiting for their comeuppance which seems to have already begun.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jul 3, 2018 19:40:08 GMT
The only musing I think I'd be curious to know about is if she's doing this to create a protective bubble for herself...after all, those who listen here just to point out her idiocy probably aren't going to pay for that opportunity.
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Post by crafty on Jul 3, 2018 19:47:03 GMT
I'm out. I mentioned on the other thread that you have to create content for free to get people to want to buy what you are selling. Tracie doesn't share anything for free and Tiffianie sold classes that she wouldn't have had an opportunity to do if it weren't for the podcast. Not to mention the retreats that they sold seats in because of the podcasts. They are not high profile enough to put everything behind a paid wall-heck Heidi Swapp, Cathy Z, and Ali aren't gatekeepers to all their content. They provide inspiration so that their other content sells.
Podbean pricing is maxed out at $99 a month, so they only need 20 to pay the fees and then the rest is profit. I'm sure they will be successful at making a good profit for a while, but eventually, you won't curate new people and it will get stale. Tracie will move on to something else...we've gone from scrapbooking to classes to retreats to lettering to now a premium paid podcast. What will be next?
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Post by christinec68 on Jul 3, 2018 19:47:10 GMT
The only musing I think I'd be curious to know about is if she's doing this to create a protective bubble for herself...after all, those who listen here just to point out her idiocy probably aren't going to pay for that opportunity. We could all chip into a go fund me account and share access.
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Post by scrappyem on Jul 3, 2018 19:48:34 GMT
Yeah just no. Way to chase yet another thing instead of figuring out a solid business plan. Hopping from $ making schemes to $ making schemes without developing anything. I'm surprised she doesn't try and sell Amway next to all her "fans".
I support ALP with no issue. I use to support PRT just because the podcast was that good. I felt like I always learned something. Scrap gals not so much. There's no value to listening in their podcast. I wouldn't be surprised if they quit soon if they don't get enough paid subscribers.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jul 3, 2018 19:51:49 GMT
I'm out. I mentioned on the other thread that you have to create content for free to get people to want to buy what you are selling. Tracie doesn't share anything for free and Tiffianie sold classes that she wouldn't have had an opportunity to do if it weren't for the podcast. Not to mention the retreats that they sold seats in because of the podcasts. They are not high profile enough to put everything behind a paid wall-heck Heidi Swapp, Cathy Z, and Ali aren't gatekeepers to all their content. They provide inspiration so that their other content sells. Podbean pricing is maxed out at $99 a month, so they only need 20 to pay the fees and then the rest is profit. I'm sure they will be successful at making a good profit for a while, but eventually, you won't curate new people and it will get stale. Tracie will move on to something else...we've gone from scrapbooking to classes to retreats to lettering to now a premium paid podcast. What will be next?Back to working at Hobby Lobby? Note: This isn't an insult to people working at HL (I worked at M's...twice)...it just seems she is moving backwards. The ventures podcasting created have dried up, so now she's trying to reinvent where it all started...if that doesn't work...HL is just one more step backwards, right?
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Post by teacherlisa on Jul 3, 2018 19:54:20 GMT
Yeah just no. Way to chase yet another thing instead of figuring out a solid business plan. Hopping from $ making schemes to $ making schemes without developing anything. I'm surprised she doesn't try and sell Amway next to all her "fans". I support ALP with no issue. I use to support PRT just because the podcast was that good. I felt like I always learned something. Scrap gals not so much. There's no value to listening in their podcast. I wouldn't be surprised if they quit soon if they don't get enough paid subscribers. Yes! ALP is who I am supporting as well. I think they also have been "learning as they go"-but they have their stuff together. The podcast is free, and then...there are extras if you choose to support via patreon. They have set goals up front...when we reach this amount, this content will be provided, and so on. The whole thing is "stable". The Scrap Gals podcast is not stable at all.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jul 3, 2018 19:54:34 GMT
Holy crap...I need to sleep...5 edits to get one comment up there correctly. Yikes.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 3, 2018 20:01:44 GMT
You. Have. Got. To. Be. Kidding. Me. I pay for podcasts as a Patreon. (I set a $4 limit per month per podcast.) But that's my choice. In return, I get the ad-free stream, exclusive episodes on a weekly/monthly basis, special live videos, etc. The podcast itself remains free of charge for everyone. You pay to support the hosts (some are full-time podcasters with multiple podcasts) and get access to the exclusives. That is all. Tracie and Tiff' have lost it. Absolutely lost it. This is not sustainable. I've been listening to podcasts for many years, have around 20 weekly podcasts that run through the entire year on my app, am currently a Patreon to 5. This is not how podcasts are run.
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Post by crafty on Jul 3, 2018 20:03:16 GMT
Yeah just no. Way to chase yet another thing instead of figuring out a solid business plan. Hopping from $ making schemes to $ making schemes without developing anything. I'm surprised she doesn't try and sell Amway next to all her "fans". I support ALP with no issue. I use to support PRT just because the podcast was that good. I felt like I always learned something. Scrap gals not so much. There's no value to listening in their podcast. I wouldn't be surprised if they quit soon if they don't get enough paid subscribers. Yes! ALP is who I am supporting as well. I think they also have been "learning as they go"-but they have their stuff together. The podcast is free, and then...there are extras if you choose to support via patreon. They have set goals up front...when we reach this amount, this content will be provided, and so on. The whole thing is "stable". The Scrap Gals podcast is not stable at all. Who's ALP?
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Post by caangel on Jul 3, 2018 20:05:08 GMT
Yeah just no. Way to chase yet another thing instead of figuring out a solid business plan. Hopping from $ making schemes to $ making schemes without developing anything. I'm surprised she doesn't try and sell Amway next to all her "fans". I support ALP with no issue. I use to support PRT just because the podcast was that good. I felt like I always learned something. Scrap gals not so much. There's no value to listening in their podcast. I wouldn't be surprised if they quit soon if they don't get enough paid subscribers. Yes! ALP is who I am supporting as well. I think they also have been "learning as they go"-but they have their stuff together. The podcast is free, and then...there are extras if you choose to support via patreon. They have set goals up front...when we reach this amount, this content will be provided, and so on. The whole thing is "stable". The Scrap Gals podcast is not stable at all. What is ALP?
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Post by crafty on Jul 3, 2018 20:05:37 GMT
You. Have. Got. To. Be. Kidding. Me. I pay for podcasts as a Patreon. (I set a $4 limit per month per podcast.) But that's my choice. In return, I get the ad-free stream, exclusive episodes on a weekly/monthly basis, special live videos, etc. The podcast itself remains free of charge for everyone. You pay to support the hosts (some are full-time podcasters with multiple podcasts) and get access to the exclusives. That is all. Tracie and Tiff' have lost it. Absolutely lost it. This is not sustainable. I've been listening to podcasts for many years, have around 20 weekly podcasts that run through the entire year on my app, am currently a Patreon to 5. This is not how podcasts are run. Exactly! I pay for extras on Patreon for a couple of regular podcasts I listen to. The podcast is free but bonus content is extra. I also think $5 is a lot for one podcast.
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Post by stinkerbelle on Jul 3, 2018 20:06:58 GMT
i seriously can't believe this shit
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Post by teacherlisa on Jul 3, 2018 20:13:55 GMT
ALP is the Awesome Ladies Project
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Post by freeatlast on Jul 3, 2018 20:15:43 GMT
The podcast had no value for me when it was free. I'm sure not paying for it. Admittedly, I haven't listened to it in almost 2 years and I'm pretty sure I haven't missed a thing.
I also miss PRT. There was content!
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Post by Citygirl on Jul 3, 2018 20:15:57 GMT
I don't currently pay for any podcasts but $5/month seems high. Plus I feel like Tracie is notorious for uploading the podcast a day or two late because she was too tired, or was busy scrubbing her house from top to bottom, or took off the entire month of December. Can you do that crap when people are subscribing? And she was never good at keeping up with the scrapgals blog/website (whatever that was) or her own. In fact, they now have designated admins in the Facebook group because that was probably too much work for her as well. Idk, just seems like another thing that will blow up in her face.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 3, 2018 20:17:09 GMT
I used to watch Inkie Quill, but then she went Patreon. I understand that works for her. She still offers free content. However, like most people, she has a specific style. After a while I’m not getting anything out of her content. So I would never pay, because I’ve already moved on.
I still watch Shimelle even though I am clean and simple, and she is not. However, she always explains design principles about why she places items where she does or picks the patterns or colors. I still learn things from her all these many videos later.
The Scrap Gals flamed out long before I listened to more than 10 podcasts. I just don’t see the value in their content as a crafter. Once they don’t have anything to entice new subscribers in, can this last just on the current group? I’m skeptical. Like others have mentioned, the successful brands offer both free and paid content. You have to be visible to new customers or you wilt on the vine (or get hoisted on your own petard).
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Post by joyfulnana on Jul 3, 2018 20:17:41 GMT
What happens when there isn't a show one week? There have been many times in the past when there wasn't a new show because Tracie was "just too busy" to edit, or upload, etc. The retreats are too much for work for her, and apparently they don't immediately sell out anymore, but she has to keep the gravy train rolling and I'm sure in her mind, this is the way to do it. With no extra effort. I do wish I could see how all the fangirls are taking this news lol. I'm on the bench with scrapaddict702 - I want to see her get her comeuppance.
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Post by teacherlisa on Jul 3, 2018 20:27:07 GMT
What happens when there isn't a show one week? There have been many times in the past when there wasn't a new show because Tracie was "just too busy" to edit, or upload, etc. The retreats are too much for work for her, and apparently they don't immediately sell out anymore, but she has to keep the gravy train rolling and I'm sure in her mind, this is the way to do it. With no extra effort. I do wish I could see how all the fangirls are taking this news lol. I'm on the bench with scrapaddict702 - I want to see her get her comeuppance. The fangirls are all happy for them and subscribing. They are saying how long they have wanted to support their efforts and what a bargain it is. I have seen 2 comments where people say they are unable to afford it, but nothing negative about the scrap gals asking.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jul 3, 2018 20:29:13 GMT
What happens when there isn't a show one week? There have been many times in the past when there wasn't a new show because Tracie was "just too busy" to edit, or upload, etc. The retreats are too much for work for her, and apparently they don't immediately sell out anymore, but she has to keep the gravy train rolling and I'm sure in her mind, this is the way to do it. With no extra effort. I do wish I could see how all the fangirls are taking this news lol. I'm on the bench with scrapaddict702 - I want to see her get her comeuppance. The fangirls are all happy for them and subscribing. They are saying how long they have wanted to support their efforts and what a bargain it is. I have seen 2 comments where people say they are unable to afford it, but nothing negative about the scrap gals asking. Because you get the ax and publicly shamed if you aren't kissing her ass.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 3, 2018 20:37:37 GMT
I don’t doubt people in their group are subscribing. However I never heard of them until it was mentioned here and if they are behind paywalls and hidden groups how do the get new listeners?
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Post by scrappyem on Jul 3, 2018 20:38:29 GMT
Yes! ALP is who I am supporting as well. I think they also have been "learning as they go"-but they have their stuff together. The podcast is free, and then...there are extras if you choose to support via patreon. They have set goals up front...when we reach this amount, this content will be provided, and so on. The whole thing is "stable". The Scrap Gals podcast is not stable at all. Who's ALP? Sorry, Awesome Ladies Podcast. I know they are hit or miss for some, but I like them. Agree they are learning as they go.
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Post by MaryPea on Jul 3, 2018 21:04:32 GMT
You. Have. Got. To. Be. Kidding. Me. I pay for podcasts as a Patreon. (I set a $4 limit per month per podcast.) But that's my choice. In return, I get the ad-free stream, exclusive episodes on a weekly/monthly basis, special live videos, etc. The podcast itself remains free of charge for everyone. You pay to support the hosts (some are full-time podcasters with multiple podcasts) and get access to the exclusives. That is all. Tracie and Tiff' have lost it. Absolutely lost it. This is not sustainable. I've been listening to podcasts for many years, have around 20 weekly podcasts that run through the entire year on my app, am currently a Patreon to 5. This is not how podcasts are run. Agree 100%!
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