trollie
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Post by trollie on Sept 28, 2014 15:30:00 GMT
year since they are not open on Sundays?
I respect the fact that they aren't open, but honestly sometimes Sundays are the only day I can get some things done. I have a Hobby Lobby super close, but almost never go due to the fact they are closed on Sundays.
What say the Refupeas?
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Post by KikiPea on Sept 28, 2014 15:32:10 GMT
I don't think they lose as much as you'd think. I think the people who really want to go there make adjustments and go on Saturday. It's just like any restaurant that is closed one day a week or is only open for lunch/dinner.
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Post by Basket1lady on Sept 28, 2014 15:33:02 GMT
Our Hobby Lobby is a half hour away and Sundays would be an easier day for me to go there. But I like the idea that there is a day for family and that they are closed. I think a lot of the employees are long time employees and that's a guaranteed day off for them. That would be nice if you work in the retail world and never get a weekend day off.
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Post by Scarlet Ohana on Sept 28, 2014 15:33:43 GMT
I wonder how much they lose since I stopped shopping there?
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Post by iowgirl on Sept 28, 2014 15:34:35 GMT
I started shopping online from them. I am at least 2 hours from a Hobby Lobby (or any craft store) and Sunday is often the day that I can go shopping - so it pretty much keeps me out of the store.
I do like their online service though. Ships fast and the cost is reasonable. Cheaper than me driving and all the impulse buys - lol! You can online shop on Sunday.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 15:37:30 GMT
Clearly they don't care so why should I?
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quiltz
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Post by quiltz on Sept 28, 2014 15:38:03 GMT
Probably not as much as you may think. Just like how a restaurant may be closed one day a week or how your hair salon is closed one or two days a week, it is simply one day a week.
Not everyone goes shopping on Sundays. In many cultures, Sunday is for family, not shopping.
Personally, I am glad that they respect their employees and are not drawn into the 24/7/365.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 15:39:44 GMT
I always think that about businesses that close at like 5 or 6 o'clock. Most people are just getting off work, so it seems a good deal of business would be lost closing that early in the day.
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Post by katybee on Sept 28, 2014 15:42:47 GMT
My Issues with Hobby Lobby go way beyond them being closed on Sundays...I really want to boycott them... But I just can't do it.
I would imagine they lose quite a bit of revenue, but make up for it with very loyal shoppers who shop there specifically for their Christian values. Just like Chik-fil-a. I need some stuff from HL today. I'm gonna drive 10 extra minutes to Michael's because I need it today. I don't think it's going to break them.
It does prove that companies can be profitable and successful while taking ethical and moral stands on things that are important to them. Too bad things like providing a living wage to their employees and not buying crap from China produced by people that make $1 a day aren't more important to them...
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Post by KikiPea on Sept 28, 2014 15:48:38 GMT
Too bad things like providing a living wage to their employees and not buying crap from China produced by people that make $1 a day aren't more important to them... ALL hobby/craft stores get a lot of their items from China.
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Post by katybee on Sept 28, 2014 15:50:53 GMT
Too bad things like providing a living wage to their employees and not buying crap from China produced by people that make $1 a day aren't more important to them... ALL hobby/craft stores get a lot of their items from China. Not saying they don't... Just wondering why they can't take a stand on that....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 16:14:24 GMT
ALL hobby/craft stores get a lot of their items from China. Not saying they don't... Just wondering why they can't take a stand on that.... Because shoppers are looking at price and if Hobby Lobby can't be competitive in their prices, then they price themselves out of the market. The blame is on the consumer, not the retailer.
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Post by katybee on Sept 28, 2014 16:16:52 GMT
Not saying they don't... Just wondering why they can't take a stand on that.... Because shoppers are looking at price and if Hobby Lobby can't be competitive in their prices, then they price themselves out of the market. The blame is on the consumer, not the retailer.
No... It's on both HL and the consumer. Which came first... The chicken or the egg?
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Post by pierogi on Sept 28, 2014 16:23:27 GMT
I wonder how much they lose since I stopped shopping there? Amen, lady (pun intended.) I haven't darkened their door since they made it clear that Jews weren't welcome as customers.
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Post by tuva42 on Sept 28, 2014 16:26:44 GMT
I'm not sure there are very many cheap craft supplies or decorations MADE in the USA.
I think Hobby Lobby loses a lot more due to their archaic system of not using bar codes. They have to trust that their employees can type in the correct price and the correct discount every time. They have to have MORE employees per hour because they take so long to check out and doing inventory must cost them a fortune since they have no idea how much they have in the store at any time.
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Post by KikiPea on Sept 28, 2014 16:30:15 GMT
I'm not sure there are very many cheap craft supplies or decorations MADE in the USA. I think Hobby Lobby loses a lot more due to their archaic system of not using bar codes. They have to trust that their employees can type in the correct price and the correct discount every time. They have to have MORE employees per hour because they take so long to check out and doing inventory must cost them a fortune since they have no idea how much they have in the store at any time. Joann's has current computer system and only 1 cashier at a time (From what I saw the last 2 times I was there. I haven't been there in over a year. They are MUCH worse than HL. At least HL has enough employees in the store to help out, even though it usually takes them forever to decide to open a second register.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 16:34:38 GMT
I think whatever they lose by not being open on Sundays they recoup by overcharging customers because their cash register system is intentionally outdated and charging full price on sale items seems to be standard practice.
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Post by traceys on Sept 28, 2014 16:53:53 GMT
My Issues with Hobby Lobby go way beyond them being closed on Sundays...I really want to boycott them... But I just can't do it. I would imagine they lose quite a bit of revenue, but make up for it with very loyal shoppers who shop there specifically for their Christian values. Just like Chik-fil-a. I need some stuff from HL today. I'm gonna drive 10 extra minutes to Michael's because I need it today. I don't think it's going to break them. It does prove that companies can be profitable and successful while taking ethical and moral stands on things that are important to them. Too bad things like providing a living wage to their employees and not buying crap from China produced by people that make $1 a day aren't more important to them... I don't know where HL gets their stuff, but I have read that they pay their full time employees $14 an hour, part time $9.50. That's more than they have to.
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Post by georgiapea on Sept 28, 2014 17:02:06 GMT
I rarely go to Hobby Lobby, opting instead for Michaels, but Hobby Lobby does have some great items. I still resent giving them any of my money as I think their forcing their religious values (aka clap trap) on their employees and customers is absurd.
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Post by quiltz on Sept 28, 2014 17:15:38 GMT
When I go to Hobby Lobby I have never felt that they were forcing their religious values down to me, the customer. Where or how do they do this to you?
I like the softer music as it is relaxing and I really don't like loud music playing in a store when I shop, as it distracts me.
I am Canadian and remember when Sunday shopping came into existence, about in the late 1980's or so, in Canada.
I am more upset with stores that FORCE their employees to work on Thanksgiving Day and Christmas Day and New Year's day and Easter Sunday. I really don't know when or how the culture of being open 24/7/365 started. Plan accordingly and then you won't NEED to be upset because a store isn't open when it is more convenient for you. Lack of planning on the part of the consumer should not be an emergency on the part of a company.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 17:16:23 GMT
I wonder how much they lose since I stopped shopping there? Amen, lady (pun intended.) I haven't darkened their door since they made it clear that Jews weren't welcome as customers. Can you elaborate on that?
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 28, 2014 17:19:52 GMT
I was okay with them not being open on sundays, but you are right, sometimes I wanted to shop on Sunday so they didn't get th at sale.
Honestly I haven't shopped at Hobby Lobby in a decade because of the rude and unprofessionalism of their staff.
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Post by scraptag on Sept 28, 2014 17:30:00 GMT
We have a brand new Hobby Lobby in my area.
Never has anybody been rude. I get way too many people asking if I need help.
Closed on Sunday - oh well - I will go to another store that has what I want.
Pretty sure they use a computer system, at least in this new store.
Have never felt their values being forced down my throat. But I am also not a person who gets upset over someone wearing a cross necklace, or seeing the Ten Commandments posted on the wall of a public building, or having a cross on public land. Also not bothered by someone who wishes me a Merry Christmas.
Hadn't heard that they hate Jews - would love to see more on that.
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Post by tracylynn on Sept 28, 2014 17:34:25 GMT
Amen, lady (pun intended.) I haven't darkened their door since they made it clear that Jews weren't welcome as customers. Can you elaborate on that? I hadn't heard that either (and I have plenty of reasons I refuse to shop at HL). I googled and found this: Hobby Lobby Jewish Controversy
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 28, 2014 17:38:00 GMT
It does prove that companies can be profitable and successful while taking ethical and moral stands on things that are important to them. Too bad things like providing a living wage to their employees and not buying crap from China produced by people that make $1 a day aren't more important to them... I don't know where HL gets their stuff, but I have read that they pay their full time employees $14 an hour, part time $9.50. That's more than they have to. They are opening a second store in our area. I got an email from them saying they are hiring, paying PT/ temporary / seasonal help starting at $10 an hour and FT employees start at $15 with benefits. While I don't agree with them on other issues, I can't fault them for not paying people decently for retail work which is widely known for having pretty low wages overall.
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Post by purplebee on Sept 28, 2014 17:43:14 GMT
I like my HL. Staff is friendly, helpful and pleasant. Sometimes I've a bit of a wait checking out, but usually it's not too bad. I admire the owners for incorporating their beliefs into their business practices - and have NEVER felt imposed upon by their religious views while shopping there.
I have a neighbor who works there. She is very happy with her job, and her salary is competitive with other area retailers.
However, I would also like to know more about the "anti-Jewish-customer" thing as mentioned by Pierogi. If true, that would definitely affect how I feel about giving them my business.
Edited to add: Saw the above post re the Hannukkah decor situation in NJ, looks like HL owners are attempting to make things right. We'll see what this year's holy days bring.
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Post by luvnlifelady on Sept 28, 2014 17:43:35 GMT
We have a store near us that makes fancy shaved ice and they are closed on Sundays. Also our Chik-Fil-a. We don't have a Hobby Lobby.
I don't think the major retailers/restaurants lose that much but the little Shaved Ice shop seems like it would take a bigger hit in comparison. Shaved Ice even in Southern CA is seasonal so it seems like they could get at least a oouple people in there during the height of the heat on Sundays but that's just my two cents. If the owner is religious (and they say they close on Sundays due to church) then he may want everyone to observe the Sabbath or at least have the opportunity.
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Post by lindywholoveskids on Sept 28, 2014 17:47:13 GMT
it is their stand on women's choice for reproductive rights that would hold me back.
I decided to not shop there even before that though.
I will read the Jewish controversy link. just another reason to avoid shopping there. I am glad that we the customers have choices.
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Post by raindancer on Sept 28, 2014 17:52:40 GMT
Probably not as much as you may think. Just like how a restaurant may be closed one day a week or how your hair salon is closed one or two days a week, it is simply one day a week.
Not everyone goes shopping on Sundays. In many cultures, Sunday is for family, not shopping.
Personally, I am glad that they respect their employees and are not drawn into the 24/7/365.
You mean they respect their Christian employees.
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Post by lindywholoveskids on Sept 28, 2014 17:55:27 GMT
If HL can make money "in select areas" they will try to look into carrying Hanukkah or Passover items. Long shot.
I have many choices. I would rather shop for Jewish 'items' in our synagogue store, or the local Jewish bookstore (which carries much much more)
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