So, how much revenue do you think HOBBY LOBBY loses every

Funny thing is, at our Hobby Lobby, there are ALWAYS several cars in the parking lot on Sunday because they have 3rd shifters working and workers cleaning the store. Tell me how that reasoning fits into this equation.

Likely a bunch of heathens they hired for those tasks, I'm sure. 

Sure it can benefit people to have a day off on Sunday. but maybe it doesn't. Maybe it would work better for a family to have Monday off, maybe that's when the other spouse has a day off. 

Lets just stop pretending that this is about anything other than the fact that Christians worship on Sunday and they are giving their employees the day off to worship, but only if they are Christian and worship on that day. They don't close on Saturday, a day for family and worship for other faiths. They don't care about them.


I don't give a shit what HL does because I refuse to shop there at all, ever. But call it what it is and stop trying to convince yourself (and apparently others) that this is something meaningful for anyone that is not Christian. It just isn't. 

We lived in Switzerland as American ex-pats. In Switzerland (and most of Europe), everything was closed on Sundays.

Grocery stores closed at 4:00 on Saturday afternoon and remained closed until Monday morning. No one purchased fewer groceries than they would have if stores were open on Sunday. They just planned ahead.

Gas stations were closed on Sunday. However, you could fill your tank using a credit card at unmanned gas stations.

Just in case you were returning home from a trip on Sunday and had no groceries at home, the train station had unmanned vending machines with milk and such.

Pharmacies were closed on Sundays. If you needed medicine, your local pharmacy would have a sign telling you the location of the nearest emergency pharmacy. The emergency pharmacy would still be locked up tight - the pharmacist would come to a walk-up window to ask what you needed. No browsing while you waited. You got exactly what couldn't wait until Monday, and nothing more.

No one was allowed to work around their homes on Sundays or holidays. No lawn mowers. No car repair.

Of course emergency personnel (fire, police, medical) still worked on Sundays. The trains still ran. But the vast majority of the population was home with their families. Looking around my little town, I could see the bakery, movie theater, film developer, post office, grocer, butcher, dry cleaner, lumber yard, town hall, flower shop, bank, gas station - everything was closed. Everyone was at home. Very few of those people attended a church, but they held their Sundays sacred as family time. They might go for a walk, or have a nice dinner, or take a bike ride. There was very little traffic. Sundays were wonderfully quiet days.

If Hobby Lobby wants to give most of its employees Sundays off, why would anyone object? I wish more stores followed the same practice. I wish the U.S. could be a little more Swiss.

In my area I bet the lose a bunch. We are a rural shopping hub for lots of outlying areas. Many people come to town on Sunday to shop at Costco and Target and the mall. Those out town people would shop at HL also if open. Even for me, it seems like I am busy on Saturday with kids games and such it isn't until Sunday I remember I want to go and buy something there. So instead I go to the other craft store in town.

S/O Gar, because of your comments in an earlier thread I now try to stop myself and name a country. I'm trying to give up the "Europe" habit
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Maybe you saw that a while ago though? These days, Sunday shopping in England and Wales is now well established (Scottish laws have always been different and allowed opening) and it's very busy with supermarkets, city and town centres, out of town shopping complexes, shopping malls etc., open.  Even my local very, very small town now has some shops open on a Sunday!

Sunday trading is still debated here at times but I'm not sure we could turn the clock back to having shops closed now.....people have got used to being able to buy almost anything on a Sunday now - along with our 24/7 supermarkets and online food shopping ordering and delivery from the major supermarkets!

That reminds me that the first time I ever saw a "super" type store was in Germany, back in the 80s. I remember thinking what a bizarre concept it was to be selling clothes, linens, electronics and such in the same store you sell groceries. Now it's just normal.

Retail stores do not have the right to just search customers. The walmart in my area asked to see my purchases a few times - I refused - and they just let me leave. They have since stopped asking anyone. But I was astounded how many people willingly consented to be searched! A retail employee doesn't have more right than the police to search you. 

Sams Club is different, because you are a club member. I presume when I joined Sams I signed an agreement to allow the receipt check. 

Hobby Lobby employs 23,000 and revenues of $3.3 billion. It's 125th largest privately held company in the US according to Forbes and revenues increased by 10% last year.

I've never been to one, I think the closest is an hour away.

This is not accurate.

Hobby Lobby health care plans cover birth control that prevents pregnancy and bans only forms of contraception that terminate pregnancy. Big difference.

I haven't read all of the replies, but I don't recall anyone claiming it was "meaningful" for non-Christians.  Perhaps you assumed that from my post about families who might want to actually spend time together on the weekend, a problem for many who work retail.  Many non-retail jobs do have weekends off, hence the big weekend shopping days for retail stores.  For individuals who have family members that don't work weekends, I doubt they would prefer to have Monday for their day off rather than Sunday, unless they don't get along with their families.  That is true whether or not they are religious.  You don't have to be Christian or any other religion to love your family and want to have time together.  For some families, it is a challenge when their employment hours are completely at odds.

Yes, this discussion is about a business that is owned by Christians, and HL caters at least somewhat (but not exclusively) to Christians.  They choose a day off that has meaning for Christians, but that doesn't exclude the possibility that employees may use it for other pursuits (like going to the beach with their family rather than to church).  A lot of their employees may be Christians, but not necessarily.  One of my friends has a daughter that worked for HL for quite awhile.  The young woman was indifferent to religion, yet she worked at Hobby Lobby.

For someone who has animosity toward Christianity rather than simple indifference, it would obviously not be a place to work or shop, but I don't think anyone suggested it would be meaningful to do so under those circumstances.

Yay!!   

I'm sorry, it's a bit of a pet peeve.....I know our individual countries are much smaller than yours but it's akin to saying USA, Greenland and Cuba are all pretty much the same since they're on the same continent.