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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 3:08:30 GMT
Neither did your bringing up Holder. Yes, in fact, it absolutely did. Complaining about this AG acting like he's the president's personal attorney, while having Obama's AG outright claim to be his guy, has everything to do one with the other. You give your stupid ass reply “you’re trying too hard” because your lame ass doesn’t know how to respond to a valid question to a post you made. Bringing in totally new points to deflect from points you don't like does not make your blather into a valid question. And yes, you're trying way too hard to dismiss facts you don't like.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 23, 2019 3:16:17 GMT
Neither did your bringing up Holder. Yes, in fact, it absolutely did. Complaining about this AG acting like he's the president's personal attorney, while having Obama's AG outright claim to be his guy, has everything to do one with the other. The problem is that this AG bold faced lied in an attempt to cover for dt! To my knowledge Holder stood with Obama while serving us!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 3:19:36 GMT
Her 'slip of tongue' comments sure do multiply! White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders acknowledged to investigators with special counsel Robert Mueller's team that she misled reporters when she insisted in May 2017 that "countless" FBI agents had lost confidence in former Director James Comey leading up to his dismissal. The special counsel's report, released Thursday, cited Sanders’s multiple false statements to reporters as part of its review of whether President Trump obstructed justice in firing Comey. Sanders told investigators that her misstatements were a "slip of the tongue,” and that the claims were not founded on anything. ** thehill.com/homenews/administration/439554-sarah-sanders-made-false-statements-to-press-on-comey-firing-muellerDt says liars must go. He needs to start with the closest to him, even better himself! You're arguing over the word "countless" There actually were FBI agents who had in fact lost confidence in Comey, just as Sanders had said. Obviously no one can sit there and count the number of people (hence the term "countless"), it’s her belief. To call that a lie is just idiotic. But that's the kind of idiotic objections about anything in this administration that you all keep throwing out there. Then you try to disparege anyone who disagrees with those idiotic outrages instead of stepping back and realizing you're clouding real issues.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 3:34:15 GMT
Obviously no one can sit there and count the number of people (hence the term "countless"), it’s That's not what "countless" means. Oh, but you knew that.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 23, 2019 3:43:48 GMT
Larry's take....“It is not news that Sarah Sanders is a pathological liar who works for a pathological liar, that is why as a general rule I do not use video of Sarah Sanders speaking at White House press briefings,” O’Donnell noted. “I don’t let this program become a delivery system for Trumpian propaganda, which is the only thing that Sarah Sanders traffics in whenever she speaks, wherever she speaks. “Remember, Sarah Sanders is not just a liar, she is a pathological liar. So when she was admitting to the Mueller investigators that she didn’t tell the truth, she actually lied to them — and they knew it,” he explained.” Saw it last night!! I have not seen anyone else show the beginning of the video, although I am sure someone will soon...... It is WONDERFUL!! I guess you missed this video! @shhfzas And if you listen you will hear her state that she got emails.... Where are they?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 3:53:01 GMT
So where did Holder tell lies, grossly misrepresent some sort (any sort) of investigation in an attempt to protect President Obama? Where did Holder blindly and loyally “side” with President Obama at the expense of the American people?You are trying too hard. None of that was in that string and has nothing to do with what was quoted. Nifty trick you’re pulling here. Indeed it is all about the relationship between trump/Barr and President Obama/Eric Holder and comparing their actions and relationships. And you made it that with your wingman comment. Someone makes the comment that Barr was trump’s attorney instead of the people’s attorney. To which you dragged out the Holder quote about being Obama’s wingman as if it was an equal comparison. And when you’re called on it you go into your “comment has nothing to do” or “that’s not what we are talking about” mode. Yes President Obama and Eric Holder are friends and it did cause criticism from the Republicans. The difference between the two groups of men is trump picked Barr with the express reason to protect him. They weren't friends beforehand. They weren’t each other’s wingmen. I doubt if trump even knew who Barr was until he wrote that 14 page, unsolicited, memo on presidents don’t obstruct justice. Music to trump’s ears. While President Obama selected his friend Eric Holder because he thought he would make a good AG. Not as someone to protect a President’s questionable actions. And when The Obama White House did step over that line of meddling in the DOJ’s house, it wasn’t to protect President Obama, it was how a case should be handled. So in the context your wingman comment was made, it was meaningless. Or it was not comparing apples to apples. Or it was not “a two peas in a pod“ comment.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 3:55:52 GMT
I like her more every day: Thanks @fred and revirdsuba99 for being my #wingpeas. I'm tired of nonsensical "arguments" but you two nailed what I (and, I am guessing, other thinking peas) was (were) thinking
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 4:08:15 GMT
Obviously no one can sit there and count the number of people (hence the term "countless"), it’s That's not what "countless" means. Oh, but you knew that. Countless means too numerous to count, so no one is going to sit there and count them. But you knew that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 4:29:28 GMT
I think you're missing the point here. The AG is the American people's attorney--not the president's."I’m still enjoying what I’m doing, there’s still work to be done. I’m still the President’s wing-man, so I’m there with my boy." Eric Holder I don't remember anyone being bothered when Holder was proclaiming to be Obama's. You can spin it all you want, add all the new information you want to the original string of conversation responded to, move the goalposts and make excuses for Holder while demonizing Barr in some defensive, deflective bullshit attempt to make it okay for one and not the other, but that's all you're doing is shoveling shit. According to some of you, it's always okay if you're a Democrat and always wrong if you're a Republican. In your mind the formula never changes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 4:38:30 GMT
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Post by inkedup on Apr 23, 2019 5:11:05 GMT
"I’m still enjoying what I’m doing, there’s still work to be done. I’m still the President’s wing-man, so I’m there with my boy." Eric Holder I don't remember anyone being bothered when Holder was proclaiming to be Obama's. You can spin it all you want, add all the new information you want to the original string of conversation responded to, move the goalposts and make excuses for Holder while demonizing Barr in some defensive, deflective bullshit attempt to make it okay for one and not the other, but that's all you're doing is shoveling shit. According to some of you, it's always okay if you're a Democrat and always wrong if you're a Republican. In your mind the formula never changes. This entire debate is so reminiscent of your incessant arguments about "very fine people on both sides" did not mean "very fine people on both sides." You think Trump is great. We get it. What do you gain by doggedly defending him in a thread that was created to criticize him, though? You're not changing minds or hearts here. It almost seems like you come here solely to poke at us awful liberals and to remind us that people like you think Hillary and Obama are just as bad as Trump is. Feels like the good old days with you, Gia.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 5:16:22 GMT
"I’m still enjoying what I’m doing, there’s still work to be done. I’m still the President’s wing-man, so I’m there with my boy." Eric Holder I don't remember anyone being bothered when Holder was proclaiming to be Obama's. You can spin it all you want, add all the new information you want to the original string of conversation responded to, move the goalposts and make excuses for Holder while demonizing Barr in some defensive, deflective bullshit attempt to make it okay for one and not the other, but that's all you're doing is shoveling shit. According to some of you, it's always okay if you're a Democrat and always wrong if you're a Republican. In your mind the formula never changes. Thank you for proving my point. And you did a really good job of it as well. 😀
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 5:18:36 GMT
You can spin it all you want, add all the new information you want to the original string of conversation responded to, move the goalposts and make excuses for Holder while demonizing Barr in some defensive, deflective bullshit attempt to make it okay for one and not the other, but that's all you're doing is shoveling shit. According to some of you, it's always okay if you're a Democrat and always wrong if you're a Republican. In your mind the formula never changes. This entire debate is so reminiscent of your incessant arguments about "very fine people on both sides" did not mean "very fine people on both sides." You think Trump is great. We get it. What do you gain by doggedly defending him in a thread that was created to criticize him, though? You're not changing minds or hearts here. It almost seems like you come here solely to poke at us awful liberals and to remind us that people like you think Hillary and Obama are just as bad as Trump is. Feels like the good old days with you, Gia. I don’t think she is Gia. Although she sure does share some of the same characteristics of Gia. IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 5:44:38 GMT
You can spin it all you want, add all the new information you want to the original string of conversation responded to, move the goalposts and make excuses for Holder while demonizing Barr in some defensive, deflective bullshit attempt to make it okay for one and not the other, but that's all you're doing is shoveling shit. According to some of you, it's always okay if you're a Democrat and always wrong if you're a Republican. In your mind the formula never changes. This entire debate is so reminiscent of your incessant arguments about "very fine people on both sides" did not mean "very fine people on both sides." You think Trump is great. We get it. What do you gain by doggedly defending him in a thread that was created to criticize him, though? You're not changing minds or hearts here. It almost seems like you come here solely to poke at us awful liberals and to remind us that people like you think Hillary and Obama are just as bad as Trump is. Feels like the good old days with you, Gia. What do you gain from so vehemently objecting to anyone having another point of view, Lauren?
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Post by inkedup on Apr 23, 2019 5:50:33 GMT
This entire debate is so reminiscent of your incessant arguments about "very fine people on both sides" did not mean "very fine people on both sides." You think Trump is great. We get it. What do you gain by doggedly defending him in a thread that was created to criticize him, though? You're not changing minds or hearts here. It almost seems like you come here solely to poke at us awful liberals and to remind us that people like you think Hillary and Obama are just as bad as Trump is. Feels like the good old days with you, Gia. What do you gain from so vehemently objecting to anyone having another point of view, Lauren? It's not your point of view that's bothersome. It's the fact that you think you need to make the same point 67 times that's annoying AF. And we both know I'm not Lauren, though your attempt at a dig is telling. You're obviously not new here. Too bad you're too cowardly to post under your old pea ID. You're like an angry little chihuahua biting at the ankles of every post that dares criticize your Orange King. It's a display of ignorance and obliviousness that is actually quite fascinating. You keep vomiting your Pro-Trump word salad at everyone and I'll keep marveling at your lack of so many things.
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Post by inkedup on Apr 23, 2019 5:53:39 GMT
This entire debate is so reminiscent of your incessant arguments about "very fine people on both sides" did not mean "very fine people on both sides." You think Trump is great. We get it. What do you gain by doggedly defending him in a thread that was created to criticize him, though? You're not changing minds or hearts here. It almost seems like you come here solely to poke at us awful liberals and to remind us that people like you think Hillary and Obama are just as bad as Trump is. Feels like the good old days with you, Gia. I don’t think she is Gia. Although she sure does share some of the same characteristics of Gia. IMO. I don't think this is a new poster, though. I haven't gotten the Gia vibe until recently with her, but maybe it's the fact that they both like to keep kicking the crap out of the poor, dead horse.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 5:57:23 GMT
What do you gain from so vehemently objecting to anyone having another point of view, Lauren? It's not your point of view that's bothersome. It's the fact that you think you need to make the same point 67 times that's annoying AF. And we both know I'm not Lauren, though your attempt at a dig is telling. You're obviously not new here. Too bad you're too cowardly to post under your old pea ID. You're like an angry little chihuahua biting at the ankles of every post that dares criticize your Orange King. It's a display of ignorance and obliviousness that is actually quite fascinating. You keep vomiting your Pro-Trump word salad at everyone and I'll keep marveling at your lack of so many things. With the thousands of posts here making the same point on the same subject, over and over again, by the same people for the last several years, what a joke you are to be bothered by one person responding to them. Not to mention you making a dig by calling me by another name and being bothered when I do the same. The hypocrisy is astounding.
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Post by inkedup on Apr 23, 2019 6:07:20 GMT
It's not your point of view that's bothersome. It's the fact that you think you need to make the same point 67 times that's annoying AF. And we both know I'm not Lauren, though your attempt at a dig is telling. You're obviously not new here. Too bad you're too cowardly to post under your old pea ID. You're like an angry little chihuahua biting at the ankles of every post that dares criticize your Orange King. It's a display of ignorance and obliviousness that is actually quite fascinating. You keep vomiting your Pro-Trump word salad at everyone and I'll keep marveling at your lack of so many things. With the thousands of posts here making the same point on the same subject, over and over again, by the same people for the last several years, what a joke you are to be bothered by one person responding to them. Not to mention you making a dig by calling me by another name and being bothered when I do the same. The hypocrisy is astounding. I'm not bothered you called me Lauren. I thought it was pretty lame as far as insults go, hence my use of the phrase "your ATTEMPT at a dig." Your hyper sensitivity and unyeilding defense of Trump are amusing and unsurprising. Anyway, froth on! You're a broken record that I have no interest in playing. 😘
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 6:17:13 GMT
Your hyper sensitivity and unyeilding defense of Trump are amusing and unsurprising. Funny, I think the same thing of your hypersensitivity and unyielding need to make the same posts about Trump over and over again for years on end.
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Post by lucyg on Apr 23, 2019 7:28:47 GMT
Her 'slip of tongue' comments sure do multiply! White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders acknowledged to investigators with special counsel Robert Mueller's team that she misled reporters when she insisted in May 2017 that "countless" FBI agents had lost confidence in former Director James Comey leading up to his dismissal. The special counsel's report, released Thursday, cited Sanders’s multiple false statements to reporters as part of its review of whether President Trump obstructed justice in firing Comey. Sanders told investigators that her misstatements were a "slip of the tongue,” and that the claims were not founded on anything. ** thehill.com/homenews/administration/439554-sarah-sanders-made-false-statements-to-press-on-comey-firing-muellerDt says liars must go. He needs to start with the closest to him, even better himself! You're arguing over the word "countless" There actually were FBI agents who had in fact lost confidence in Comey, just as Sanders had said. Obviously no one can sit there and count the number of people (hence the term "countless"), it’s her belief. To call that a lie is just idiotic. But that's the kind of idiotic objections about anything in this administration that you all keep throwing out there. Then you try to disparege anyone who disagrees with those idiotic outrages instead of stepping back and realizing you're clouding real issues. This is complete BS. Did you not actually follow the story? SHS claimed originally that she had personally received emails from “countless” FBI agents thanking her for Trump having fired Comey. She read it from a scripted statement. You can see it on video. She repeated the claims several times over several days. Then she admitted to Mueller that it was all made up. NO FBI agents contacted her to complain about Comey. Now that her lies are public, she is claiming it was a “slip of the tongue” and was not a scripted comment. Lies, lies, lies! And yet you continue to defend her claims and argue about what the definition of “countless” is.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 23, 2019 11:21:55 GMT
Neither did your bringing up Holder. Yes, in fact, it absolutely did. Complaining about this AG acting like he's the president's personal attorney, while having Obama's AG outright claim to be his guy, has everything to do one with the other. You give your stupid ass reply “you’re trying too hard” because your lame ass doesn’t know how to respond to a valid question to a post you made. Bringing in totally new points to deflect from points you don't like does not make your blather into a valid question. And yes, you're trying way too hard to dismiss facts you don't like. Says the poster who brought up Holder to begin with, as a comparison in a lame attempt to try to “own the libs”, a lame attempt to point out what you think is hypocrisy, and when you cannot answer a question based on your own comparison post, you go directly to idiotic and stupid and whip out the “dismiss shit you don’t like” gaslighting bullshit excuse. Well sweetheart, I didn’t dismiss anything. I asked a valid question regarding YOUR comparison (you know, the one where you tried “to own the libs on a made up hypocrisy claim” The FACT in the matter is that Barr lied and grossly misrepresented the results of an investigation in order to protect the potus, showing all of America that he’s willing to ignore/disregard what is best for said Americans in order to appease the potus. In your lame ass Holder comparison—while Holder May have said what you quoted, he did not lie or misrepresent facts of an investigation that affected the integrity of the office of potus, nor did he lie, hide or misrepresent information in order to protect him. But you know that—and in your alternate reality, facts and truth do not matter, as long as you can find ways to attack a liberal...right? You constantly get your panties in a wad about liberals supposedly making excuses and being hypocritical, but I’ve never ever seen someone other than you be as hypocritical, make up as many square peg into a round hole comparisons, make (lame) attempts with your opinions presented as fact, gaslight, move goal posts, distort the truth, and make excuse after excuse, after excuse for this administration. It’s pathetic. People like you who constantly and without any shame, attack the truth and facts of what transpires, are exactly those who are eroding the USA, allowing the end of democracy, and allowing lies, gaslighting, and increasing the state of division in the USA.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 23, 2019 11:27:14 GMT
Her 'slip of tongue' comments sure do multiply! White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders acknowledged to investigators with special counsel Robert Mueller's team that she misled reporters when she insisted in May 2017 that "countless" FBI agents had lost confidence in former Director James Comey leading up to his dismissal. The special counsel's report, released Thursday, cited Sanders’s multiple false statements to reporters as part of its review of whether President Trump obstructed justice in firing Comey. Sanders told investigators that her misstatements were a "slip of the tongue,” and that the claims were not founded on anything. ** thehill.com/homenews/administration/439554-sarah-sanders-made-false-statements-to-press-on-comey-firing-muellerDt says liars must go. He needs to start with the closest to him, even better himself! You're arguing over the word "countless" There actually were FBI agents who had in fact lost confidence in Comey, just as Sanders had said. Obviously no one can sit there and count the number of people (hence the term "countless"), it’s her belief. To call that a lie is just idiotic. But that's the kind of idiotic objections about anything in this administration that you all keep throwing out there. Then you try to disparege anyone who disagrees with those idiotic outrages instead of stepping back and realizing you're clouding real issues. She is a liar. You know this. She full on admitted to Special Counsel that she lies. That she lied based on nothing—no info, no “countless” imaginary FBI agents. SHE said this under oath to SC. How on earth can you even try to spin this with a straight face? Heed your own advice Gia-“you try to disparage anyone who disagrees....” and realize that it is YOU and only YOU clouding up any issues here. It is YOU disparaging. It is YOU gaslighting. It is YOU clouding issues.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 23, 2019 11:35:06 GMT
"I’m still enjoying what I’m doing, there’s still work to be done. I’m still the President’s wing-man, so I’m there with my boy." Eric Holder I don't remember anyone being bothered when Holder was proclaiming to be Obama's. You can spin it all you want, add all the new information you want to the original string of conversation responded to, move the goalposts and make excuses for Holder while demonizing Barr in some defensive, deflective bullshit attempt to make it okay for one and not the other, but that's all you're doing is shoveling shit. According to some of you, it's always okay if you're a Democrat and always wrong if you're a Republican. In your mind the formula never changes. Liar. Gaslighter. Truth suppresser. That’s you. You need to get something straight—not all are questioning the intent of ALL republicans here on these threads where YOU lie, where YOU gaslight, where YOU make comparisons that are not equal—they are calling out YOU for doing those things. Your lack of integrity and have the audacity and capacity to lie, gaslight, and bend the truth —it is astounding. It is The formula that you repeat and try to spread around here like a disease.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 23, 2019 11:36:48 GMT
This entire debate is so reminiscent of your incessant arguments about "very fine people on both sides" did not mean "very fine people on both sides." You think Trump is great. We get it. What do you gain by doggedly defending him in a thread that was created to criticize him, though? You're not changing minds or hearts here. It almost seems like you come here solely to poke at us awful liberals and to remind us that people like you think Hillary and Obama are just as bad as Trump is. Feels like the good old days with you, Gia. What do you gain from so vehemently objecting to anyone having another point of view, Lauren? You prove the point over and over and over again that you just are not capable of making an accurate comparison!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 12:38:16 GMT
I'm going to ask the thinking peas to not get down rabbit holes w/those who have no interest in honest debate. I know I am guilty of responding to tangents in this thread. But if we all stop engaging w/those who are not honestly engaging, it might help. Like Trump, they get their jollies from chaotic disorder and attention. If a pea w/an opposing and reasoned pov comes along, great. But not those who clearly show they have no intention to discuss the merits of the OP (in this case, the redacted report and its impacts on next steps), but would rather harp on a tangential pt to derail a thread. In the words of St. Nancy, "just say no". Anywho, looks like Schiff called it and Mueller proves it...
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Post by lizacreates on Apr 23, 2019 12:39:04 GMT
You're arguing over the word "countless" There actually were FBI agents who had in fact lost confidence in Comey, just as Sanders had said. Obviously no one can sit there and count the number of people (hence the term "countless"), it’s her belief. To call that a lie is just idiotic. But that's the kind of idiotic objections about anything in this administration that you all keep throwing out there. Then you try to disparege anyone who disagrees with those idiotic outrages instead of stepping back and realizing you're clouding real issues. This is complete BS. Did you not actually follow the story? SHS claimed originally that she had personally received emails from “countless” FBI agents thanking her for Trump having fired Comey. She read it from a scripted statement. You can see it on video. She repeated the claims several times over several days. Then she admitted to Mueller that it was all made up. NO FBI agents contacted her to complain about Comey. Now that her lies are public, she is claiming it was a “slip of the tongue” and was not a scripted comment. Lies, lies, lies! And yet you continue to defend her claims and argue about what the definition of “countless” is. It’s like…there’s this huge, important issue with flashing neon lights and along comes someone who has a conniption because one of the bulbs seems dim.
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Post by lizacreates on Apr 23, 2019 12:40:33 GMT
Daniel Patrick Moynihan: Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.
Mueller Report, Vol II, P 72, Par 2: When a reporter indicated that the “vast majority” of FBI agents supported Comey, Sanders said, “Look, we’ve heard from countless members of the FBI that say very different things.” Following the press conference, Sanders spoke to the President, who told her she did a good job and did not point out any inaccuracies in her comments. Sanders told this Office that her reference to hearing from “countless members of the FBI” was a “slip of the tongue.” She also recalled that her statement in a separate press interview that rank-and-file FBI agents had lost confidence in Comey was a comment she made “in the heat of the moment” that was not founded on anything.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 23, 2019 14:26:54 GMT
Lindsey Graham no longer knows what honor is!
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