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Post by Scrapper100 on Mar 2, 2020 19:31:48 GMT
11am local news update. King County (where we’ve had 2 deaths thus far) has purchased a motel which they will be using to isolate patients. They also are purchasing modular housing units from Texas (usually used to house oil workers) to be brought here and used for patients. If you’re sick and tired of it....  <——— and that is not an action or reaction I typically use on this board. I try to be respectful of everyone’s opinions. For some of us, this is a real thing, not some abstract out there thousands of miles away. Never mind, we’re now at 5 deaths in King County. Heartbreaking. I'm so sorry - with the outbreak being tied to an assisted living community, I fear that it's going to get worse before better. So very sorry for all your community is going through! I’m so sorry to. While expected it’s coming much quicker than I would have expected. I feel so bad for those effected by this. |
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Post by mom on Mar 2, 2020 19:32:02 GMT
11am local news update. King County (where we’ve had 2 deaths thus far) has purchased a motel which they will be using to isolate patients. They also are purchasing modular housing units from Texas (usually used to house oil workers) to be brought here and used for patients. If you’re sick and tired of it.... <——— and that is not an action or reaction I typically use on this board. I try to be respectful of everyone’s opinions. For some of us, this is a real thing, not some abstract out there thousands of miles away. Never mind, we’re now at 5 deaths in King County. Heartbreaking. I am so sorry. I was supposed to have lunch with DH today but he canceled at 830am. He said that his company is preparing an empty nursing home they own to be a make shift home for any from their nursing homes/assisted living patients that could have symptoms. They owned the building already and are trying to get emergency permits from the city to be able to use it. No one has tested positive but like DH said - if they wait til they do, then it will be too late. |
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Post by Judy26 on Mar 2, 2020 19:33:15 GMT
So Dd’s Boyfriend owns a packaging company. One of his most lucrative clients is a company that just furloughed all of their workers because they can’t get the supplies needed to stay open. They purchase from a US based company that cannot keep up with demand because the parts needed to keep their lines running are made in China. They were told it could be a year to 18 months before the parts become available again. There are no reports of the virus within 500 miles of our town yet it is already hurting our economy. These are small businesses that probably won’t be able to recover from the hit to their bottom line.
While some people may be going overboard and over preparing for a pandemic it is very short sighted to think that it isn’t going to affect your life in any way.
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Post by MichyM on Mar 2, 2020 19:39:09 GMT
This may be harsh but for those of you “sick and tired” of coronavirus, how about you just stop engaging in discussion/reading/listening to it? I feel like there are quite a few people on this board who feel superior to those of us who are having (what I deem to be) a healthy response to a new and unknown health concern. We have cut back the news we watch and I’m watching and catching up on recorded shows. The Seattle area news shows run for hours on each channel. Whether it’s the weather, the traffic, a virus, etc, the newest topic dominates their programming. Just because people don’t want people panicking, wiping out the stock at the stores or having it dominate the news (causing more panic), does not mean they don’t care, aren’t worried and aren’t compassionate  We’ve discussed it twice yesterday in my house, once between me and my dd and once was me and dh. It was discussed Sunday at my parents house with me, my little brother and my dad. Both days we were able to discuss the virus without it being the only thing we discussed and without us panicking or running to the store to stock up. You are correct about the news. If I’m home I watch the mid day news (have it on right now) and the evening news. As I said earlier, if you (a general you) are sick and tired of corona virus discussion, then just don’t engage. It’s really that simple. I haven’t seen any posts here about people getting overwrought about the virus. Nor have i seen it personally in real life. There are topics every day here and in real life that I choose not to engage in/hand slap others for engaging in. It has not altered my life thus far, not has it come up more than just in passing between me and friends, and me and my son (who lives on the opposite coast). I am hosting a dinner out tonight. Up until Saturday we had 12 people attending. 3 dropped out over the weekend. I’ll be curious if more drop out today. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Mar 2, 2020 19:47:13 GMT
We have cut back the news we watch and I’m watching and catching up on recorded shows. The Seattle area news shows run for hours on each channel. Whether it’s the weather, the traffic, a virus, etc, the newest topic dominates their programming. Just because people don’t want people panicking, wiping out the stock at the stores or having it dominate the news (causing more panic), does not mean they don’t care, aren’t worried and aren’t compassionate We’ve discussed it twice yesterday in my house, once between me and my dd and once was me and dh. It was discussed Sunday at my parents house with me, my little brother and my dad. Both days we were able to discuss the virus without it being the only thing we discussed and without us panicking or running to the store to stock up. You are correct about the news. If I’m home I watch the mid day news (have it on right now) and the evening news. As I said earlier, if you (a general you) are sick and tired of corona virus discussion, then just don’t engage. It’s really that simple. I haven’t seen any posts here about people getting overwrought about the virus. Nor have i seen it personally in real life. There are topics every day here and in real life that I choose not to engage in/hand slap others for engaging in. It has not altered my life thus far, not has it come up more than just in passing between me and friends, and me and my son (who lives on the opposite coast). I am hosting a dinner out tonight. Up until Saturday we had 12 people attending. 3 dropped out over the weekend. I’ll be curious if more drop out today. I think the wording sick and tired wasn’t the best to use. But even though I’m an auditor and have been a black and white thinker for years because of that, I’m able to read posts in gentler terms and still get what someone is saying. Between message boards and Facebook, I realize not everyone uses the words that I would use or that might be the best in the situation. |
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Mar 2, 2020 19:48:36 GMT
I hate the fear mongering. Most of the media is doing nothing but fanning the flames. The "gag" order by the Trump administration doesn't help. I think when you hear gag order you immediately go to "what aren't they telling us?". I am no fan of this administration but maybe they want to get their ducks in a row before making announcements, doubt it but it did cross my mind. I know they're worried about the markets but, hello, they've been in a free fall since last week. I agree that there are many more infected people walking in the US than what we know about, statistically there have to be. Even with that in the back of my mind, I was out running errands all day Saturday with hordes of others. DH underwent chemo for 7 years, I know about compromised immune systems. I have a small ziplok bag of clorox wipes for cart handles (if the store doesn't have some, a lot do now),I used my sleeve to open any doors and immediately washed my hands when I got home. That's it and that's what I've done for 7+ years. DH passed but it's such a habit now that I still do it. I'm going to a show at the House of Blues on Saturday night in Boston, has never crossed my mind not to go. My sister is a retired paramedic with the City of Boston, I asked her what she's hearing (she still talks to all her old co-workers). She said that the general consensus is that the flu is more prevalent and a bigger worry, in their opinion, as it's impacting those with compromised immune systems and children and they're still seeing a lot of flu. My company issues an update daily (curious to see today's update as there have been cases in RI (I work in RI). I'm lucky that if it came to it, I could work from home indefinitely if needed. My biggest concern is we have one bucket of time off (PTO) for vacation and sick and SO many people come into the office sick because they don't want to "waste" a PTO day being sick. Really? So you'll take down the office because you don't want to "waste" a day? Go home and work from home. I've told my staff (even before this) do NOT even think about coming into the office if you're sick, I will send you home. Work from home. I’m not sure the gag order is because they want to get their ducks in a row. I think it’s because they fired their ducks, and they have only quacks to replace them. 😏  You ARE Sassy! I totally agree with you. |
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Mar 2, 2020 19:55:35 GMT
We’re up to six deaths in our area and it seems to be increasing by the hour. It’s actually quite terrifying to be so close to this virus. These are neighborhoods I frequent, facilities I’ve been in and know people who are working 16-hour days to help the sick. I feel for the families of those inside the facilities who are worried their family members are getting adequate care, and for the workers having to go to these infected areas. And the teachers who are being tested who must be concerned about all the kids who are/could be infected. We’re usually pretty isolated in the PNW do you have this right here in our neighborhoods is scary.
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Post by chlerbie on Mar 2, 2020 20:00:08 GMT
I'm not panicked, but I feel that I want to prepare. My DH is healthy, but he's 63. I have high blood pressure. We normally buy food for just a couple of days in advance, so generally have an empty pantry, and I'm slowly working on filling it. Nothing will go to waste--all stuff we're going to use and we're not "stock piling" so much as preparing, in case of foot shortages or having to avoid people. Right now, it just means buying a few more things every time we go, making sure my dog has food, making sure we have some extra toilet paper and tissues. We're not worrying over water. We have fine drinking water.
Right now, we're in the early stages and none of us know how this is going to turn. I've read conflicting statements than the OP. There is one circulating from someone who used to work for the CDC and she predicts it to get much worse. Kirkland is showing that this is a fast moving and dangerous virus. I personally, want to stay in the know.
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Post by elaine on Mar 2, 2020 20:05:27 GMT
You are correct about the news. If I’m home I watch the mid day news (have it on right now) and the evening news. As I said earlier, if you (a general you) are sick and tired of corona virus discussion, then just don’t engage. It’s really that simple. I haven’t seen any posts here about people getting overwrought about the virus. Nor have i seen it personally in real life. There are topics every day here and in real life that I choose not to engage in/hand slap others for engaging in. It has not altered my life thus far, not has it come up more than just in passing between me and friends, and me and my son (who lives on the opposite coast). I am hosting a dinner out tonight. Up until Saturday we had 12 people attending. 3 dropped out over the weekend. I’ll be curious if more drop out today. I think the wording sick and tired wasn’t the best to use. But even though I’m an auditor and have been a black and white thinker for years because of that, I’m able to read posts in gentler terms and still get what someone is saying. Between message boards and Facebook, I realize not everyone uses the words that I would use or that might be the best in the situation. I hear you, and there was so much more in the OP other than the words “sick and tired” that was flippant, insensitive, and hand-slappy. |
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 2, 2020 20:08:22 GMT
I’m not sure the gag order is because they want to get their ducks in a row. I think it’s because they fired their ducks, and they have only quacks to replace them. 😏 You ARE Sassy! I totally agree with you. Lol, it helps me keep my sanity these days. |
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Post by peabay on Mar 2, 2020 20:13:16 GMT
More dead in a nursing facility in Washington.
I hope all the naysayers are right, but this isn't looking good for the most vulnerable among us.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Mar 2, 2020 20:15:14 GMT
We’re up to six deaths in our area and it seems to be increasing by the hour. It’s actually quite terrifying to be so close to this virus. These are neighborhoods I frequent, facilities I’ve been in and know people who are working 16-hour days to help the sick. I feel for the families of those inside the facilities who are worried their family members are getting adequate care, and for the workers having to go to these infected areas. And the teachers who are being tested who must be concerned about all the kids who are/could be infected. We’re usually pretty isolated in the PNW do you have this right here in our neighborhoods is scary. I think we used to feel that way, but then I thought about SeaTac being an international airport. Sometimes I feel we are more isolated or forgotten by the east coast than we are from international travelers. Hence all the references to Washington state on any national broadcasts. I’m used to putting the state qualifier on when I’m on message boards or Facebook, due to my interactions with people in other countries. But to hear it verbally on each news program is odd to my ears! |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Mar 2, 2020 20:18:35 GMT
So Dd’s Boyfriend owns a packaging company. One of his most lucrative clients is a company that just furloughed all of their workers because they can’t get the supplies needed to stay open. They purchase from a US based company that cannot keep up with demand because the parts needed to keep their lines running are made in China. They were told it could be a year to 18 months before the parts become available again. There are no reports of the virus within 500 miles of our town yet it is already hurting our economy. These are small businesses that probably won’t be able to recover from the hit to their bottom line. While some people may be going overboard and over preparing for a pandemic it is very short sighted to think that it isn’t going to affect your life in any way. Wow I thought things were getting a bit better and factories were reopening. I figured it would be a few months but a year to 18 months is a long time. I feel really bad for the small businesses that are going to be hit by this. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Mar 2, 2020 20:20:51 GMT
I think the wording sick and tired wasn’t the best to use. But even though I’m an auditor and have been a black and white thinker for years because of that, I’m able to read posts in gentler terms and still get what someone is saying. Between message boards and Facebook, I realize not everyone uses the words that I would use or that might be the best in the situation. I hear you, and there was so much more in the OP other than the words “sick and tired” that was flippant and hand-slappy. I usually pick what I want to discuss from most OPs and then move on as the discussion evolves. Probably not the right way to do it, but otherwise I feel like I’d get stuck on that thing that annoys me. If that makes any sense! |
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Post by bc2ca on Mar 2, 2020 20:25:52 GMT
She said it absolutely is NOT a pandemic. Pandemic: worldwide spread of a new disease This is a pandemic. Which doesn't mean we need to panic. But we do need to at least acknowledge what it is. I'm sick to see the new deaths in Kirkland.  |
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Post by elaine on Mar 2, 2020 20:28:25 GMT
I hear you, and there was so much more in the OP other than the words “sick and tired” that was flippant and hand-slappy. I usually pick what I want to discuss from most OPs and then move on as the discussion evolves. Probably not the right way to do it, but otherwise I feel like I’d get stuck on that thing that annoys me. If that makes any sense! It is probably a saner way to approach things. I’m stuck on the stated opinion that because my at-risk mother isn’t a child that I am over-reacting because I am concerned about her. I’d be less annoyed if I let it go, but I also can’t stop thinking of how it comes across to our at-risk peas too. We have a number of peas who are fighting cancer right now, for example, and peas (and their family members) with a number of other health conditions that put them at-risk. No one likes the implication that their life or that of their family members doesn’t matter. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Mar 2, 2020 20:32:28 GMT
I usually pick what I want to discuss from most OPs and then move on as the discussion evolves. Probably not the right way to do it, but otherwise I feel like I’d get stuck on that thing that annoys me. If that makes any sense! It is probably a saner way to approach things. I’m stuck on the stated opinion that because my at-risk mother isn’t a child that I am over-reacting because I am concerned about her. I’d be less annoyed if I let it go, but I also can’t stop thinking of how it comes across to our at-risk peas too. We have a number of peas who are fighting cancer right now, for example, and peas (and their family members) with a number of other health conditions that put them at-risk. No one likes the implication that their life or that of their family members doesn’t matter. I get it My 79 yr old step dad is at home with pneumonia. He has a compromised immune system so I really hope both of my parents stay home so they don’t get it. |
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Post by 950nancy on Mar 2, 2020 20:37:26 GMT
I know one of our military structures is going to be a quarantined area for patients if and when necessary. Nurses are being sent to CA to train for two weeks. At least they are being as proactive as possible.
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Post by dewryce on Mar 2, 2020 20:58:35 GMT
11am local news update. King County (where we’ve had 2 deaths thus far) has purchased a motel which they will be using to isolate patients. They also are purchasing modular housing units from Texas (usually used to house oil workers) to be brought here and used for patients. If you’re sick and tired of it.... <——— and that is not an action or reaction I typically use on this board. I try to be respectful of everyone’s opinions. For some of us, this is a real thing, not some abstract out there thousands of miles away. Never mind, we’re now at 5 deaths in King County. Heartbreaking. I am so sorry. I was supposed to have lunch with DH today but he canceled at 830am. He said that his company is preparing an empty nursing home they own to be a make shift home for any from their nursing homes/assisted living patients that could have symptoms. They owned the building already and are trying to get emergency permits from the city to be able to use it. No one has tested positive but like DH said - if they wait til they do, then it will be too late. This. San Antonio has a lady that tested negative twice before she tested positive. In between she went to the mall. www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Coronavirus-patient-released-in-San-Antonio-went-15098649.phpwww.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/CDC-Coronavirus-virus-patient-released-in-San-15097374.phpDH works at a skilled nursing facility just north of San Antonio, everyone can stay home if they’re sick but if it has such a long incubation period, and obviously working from home isn’t an option, how does that stop it? We’re both at risk. So, posts like the OP leave me feeling all warm and fuzzy inside. /s |
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Post by teri on Mar 2, 2020 21:16:31 GMT
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Post by Scrapper100 on Mar 2, 2020 21:33:47 GMT
I am so sorry. I was supposed to have lunch with DH today but he canceled at 830am. He said that his company is preparing an empty nursing home they own to be a make shift home for any from their nursing homes/assisted living patients that could have symptoms. They owned the building already and are trying to get emergency permits from the city to be able to use it. No one has tested positive but like DH said - if they wait til they do, then it will be too late. This. San Antonio has a lady that tested negative twice before she tested positive. In between she went to the mall. www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Coronavirus-patient-released-in-San-Antonio-went-15098649.phpwww.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/CDC-Coronavirus-virus-patient-released-in-San-15097374.phpDH works at a skilled nursing facility just north of San Antonio, everyone can stay home if they’re sick but if it has such a long incubation period, and obviously working from home isn’t an option, how does that stop it? We’re both at risk. So, posts like the OP leave me feeling all warm and fuzzy inside. /s This is what I’m worried about. People can’t stay home for a mild cold or if they think they have allergies because it might be something more. My son and husband got a cold the beginning of February. Son is still coughing but feels fine. Don’t want to expose him to worse bugs at the dr. No way he could have stayed home for all this time. |
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Post by tryingtobewise on Mar 2, 2020 21:44:20 GMT
Not at all. I live in Kirkland, WA. My daughter's school is closed at least through tomorrow. It is very real and present in our area. We are not over-reacting but we are trying to be cautious.
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Post by papersilly on Mar 2, 2020 21:44:53 GMT
it wouldn't be such a big deal if it didn't affect our supply chain so much. the ingredients we need for the treatment or the vaccine is coming from the country with the biggest outbreak, china. 80% of our antibiotics come from china. our supply lines for so many other every day things come from china. there will be shortages until we can get a handle on this and get the factories and workers up and running again.
i get it. normally a virus is a virus. it's when it hits our pocketbooks, economy, ability to travel and move about that people start to panic.
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Post by 950nancy on Mar 2, 2020 21:57:27 GMT
Over it! Yes the media is over the top and the internet is running wild with it. Thank you for posting about your friend and her educated information. I have two friends in the medical field who have posted on FB about the facts. I appreciate their point of view. Neither of them have said what the OP's friend did though. They suggest that people be alert to changes and stay calm. |
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Post by ladytrisha on Mar 2, 2020 21:58:44 GMT
Well my company put out a company wide travel advisory today. They've cancelled business trips abroad and if an employee chooses to travel, then they have to report that travel to supervisors or HR. (We have offices in Asia, Australia, here in LA and in Europe).
I'm concerned about my BIL going out as he's undergoing chemo, my MIL is in a nursing home that seems to have a running issue with the flu going around. While I'm not panicked I AM concerned. My co-worker on the other hand just hopes Tokyo Disneyland is open because hey, no lines. My other co-worker cancelled his entire trip to Japan - non-refundable tickets and they were refunded everything - no questions.
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Post by carhoch on Mar 2, 2020 22:14:50 GMT
I am in Switzerland right now and I can tell you that they take that thing extremely seriously way more seriously then the Americans government !!!
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Mar 2, 2020 22:28:49 GMT
I know one of our military structures is going to be a quarantined area for patients if and when necessary. Nurses are being sent to CA to train for two weeks. At least they are being as proactive as possible. My sweet DIL that is pregnant with my first grandchild is a Navy Corpsman working in a medical facility on a very large naval base. THAT worries me. I'm not sick and tired of the news about coronavirus at all. I'm trying to stay informed and educated as this story evolves so that we can take whatever precautions are prudent to protect our family (and others) through this unfolding situation. I'm not an alarmist at all. I tend to have wait-and-see tendencies. But I'm also not being complacent or cavalier about this. The potential negative outcomes from it are just too great. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 2, 2020 22:33:27 GMT
It's not the end of the world. But it also isn't just another cold. The death rate is higher, and it can take up to 14 days for symptoms to show - meaning it can easily be spread to others before you even know that you're contagious. We don't know exactly how bad the death rate is because the Chinese government hasn't been exactly forthcoming. It's not bad to take precautions and be prepared - have non-perishables and medication on hand, just in case. Wash your hands, stay away from coughing and sneezing people as much as possible. Don't panic - but also be aware that saying "most people will recover just fine, it's just a cold" isn't all that helpful to the millions of Americans who fall into the populations at greater risk. We have a lot of people in their 70's and 80's that are at risk. We have a lot of immunocompromised people. We have a lot of people with respiratory issues. We have a lot of people with diabetes, heart disease and hypertension. All of these things lead to greater risk of complications and death. But no biggie, right? Most people won't have more than a fever and a cough - except for those unlucky to fall into a risk factor. This. We are not panicking. I think what is worse than the media reporting that it could become a pandemic (and they did not just make this up, they received information from doctors and scientists in the know) is that OUR government is hiding information, not allowing doctors to have information, and that they pretty much killed off the CDC and its funding last year. For the administration to be so fucking arrogant that it cannot allow the scientists and doctors do what they are experts at, is more disastrous and dangerous than what the media is doing now. |
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Post by compeateropeator on Mar 2, 2020 22:38:19 GMT
It is now close to my part of the country. So while I don't want to talk about it, I feel compelled to as it gets closer to home. Sorry to all of those that are sick of hearing about it.   A Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center employee has tested positive for the Coronavirus. The first case in New Hampshire.
New Hampshire health officials have confirmed the first "presumptive positive" case of the Coronavirus, and it's in the Upper Valley.
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Post by Nanner on Mar 3, 2020 0:33:25 GMT
I think the wording sick and tired wasn’t the best to use. But even though I’m an auditor and have been a black and white thinker for years because of that, I’m able to read posts in gentler terms and still get what someone is saying. Between message boards and Facebook, I realize not everyone uses the words that I would use or that might be the best in the situation. I hear you, and there was so much more in the OP other than the words “sick and tired” that was flippant, insensitive, and hand-slappy. I agree, and I took offence to the original post. I guess those who aren't healthy aren't worth worrying about. |
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<——— and that is not an action or reaction I typically use on this board. I try to be respectful of everyone’s opinions. For some of us, this is a real thing, not some abstract out there thousands of miles away. 
We’ve discussed it twice yesterday in my house, once between me and my dd and once was me and dh. It was discussed Sunday at my parents house with me, my little brother and my dad. Both days we were able to discuss the virus without it being the only thing we discussed and without us panicking or running to the store to stock up. 
You ARE Sassy! I totally agree with you.
