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Post by Sarah*H on Mar 3, 2020 1:15:39 GMT
My healthy 16 year old currently has pneumonia. My healthy 18 year old has asthma. My dad is 68 with a history of chronic pneumonia and bronchitis. My father in law is 74 with diabetes and is currently undergoing treatment for prostate cancer. I think it's really tasteless to dismiss the risk of a global epidemic of a respiratory virus only because you personally don't fall into a high risk group. (Or in some cases I've seen it from anti-vaxxers who want to make a political point. Equally tasteless.)
Italy doesn't have any of the "issues" (real or not) that your friend identified about China - what's her explanation for the outbreak there?
At any rate, I am not panicking. I haven't canceled our upcoming trip to NYC, I sent my kid with asthma on 2 different airplanes yesterday, I let my kid with pneumonia attend multiple events with large crowds over the last few days. I also don't feel like the media has told me to panic. It is reporting on the news and facts around the world which are changing in some cases by the minute. At the same time our own Vice President was giving a press conference about it this afternoon, his information about the number of infections in the US was already outdated. Doctors and scientists are making new assessments about this illness - incubation period, methods of transmission, accuracy of tests, accuracy of different methods of testing, etc. every single day. Should the media just ignore these updates because it doesn't want to be perceived as causing a panic?
And finally, the supply chain issues will be real. Did you see the satellite images of the decrease in air pollution over China since this epidemic began? Meaning the factories are shut down. Checked on the decrease in shipping traffic to California ports? Meaning things aren't being shipped at the same rate. Maybe it won't ever reach a crisis level and people will feel foolish for what - having extra toilet paper on hand and beans and rice that they need to use up before 2030?
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Mar 3, 2020 1:17:48 GMT
I hear you, and there was so much more in the OP other than the words “sick and tired” that was flippant, insensitive, and hand-slappy. I agree, and I took offence to the original post. I guess those who aren't healthy aren't worth worrying about. That’s what I’ve been feeling every time I read how everything is fine for the healthy and young. I want to raise my hand and say but, but...what about me?!? What am I supposed to do? Everything is not fine for me and I do matter. |
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Post by elaine on Mar 3, 2020 1:23:24 GMT
My healthy 16 year old currently has pneumonia. My healthy 18 year old has asthma. My dad is 68 with a history of chronic pneumonia and bronchitis. My father in law is 74 with diabetes and is currently undergoing treatment for prostate cancer. I think it's really tasteless to dismiss the risk of a global epidemic of a respiratory virus only because you personally don't fall into a high risk group. (Or in some cases I've seen it from anti-vaxxers who want to make a political point. Equally tasteless.) Italy doesn't have any of the "issues" (real or not) that your friend identified about China - what's her explanation for the outbreak there? At any rate, I am not panicking. I haven't canceled our upcoming trip to NYC, I sent my kid with asthma on 2 different airplanes yesterday, I let my kid with pneumonia attend multiple events with large crowds over the last few days. I also don't feel like the media has told me to panic. It is reporting on the news and facts around the world which are changing in some cases by the minute. At the same time our own Vice President was giving a press conference about it this afternoon, his information about the number of infections in the US was already outdated. Doctors and scientists are making new assessments about this illness - incubation period, methods of transmission, accuracy of tests, accuracy of different methods of testing, etc. every single day. Should the media just ignore these updates because it doesn't want to be perceived as causing a panic? And finally, the supply chain issues will be real. Did you see the satellite images of the decrease in air pollution over China since this epidemic began? Meaning the factories are shut down. Checked on the decrease in shipping traffic to California ports? Meaning things aren't being shipped at the same rate. Maybe it won't ever reach a crisis level and people will feel foolish for what - having extra toilet paper on hand and beans and rice that they need to use up before 2030? I saw this today and the images were stunning. |
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Post by PLurker on Mar 3, 2020 1:26:16 GMT
I agree, and I took offence to the original post. I guess those who aren't healthy aren't worth worrying about. That’s what I’ve been feeling every time I read how everything is fine for the healthy and young. I want to raise my hand and say but, but...what about me?!? What am I supposed to do? Everything is not fine for me and I do matter. again with the "empathy". It's sometimes in short supply. |
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Post by MizIndependent on Mar 3, 2020 1:34:33 GMT
She said it absolutely is NOT a pandemic. Yet. |
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Post by mom on Mar 3, 2020 2:41:55 GMT
I know one of our military structures is going to be a quarantined area for patients if and when necessary. Nurses are being sent to CA to train for two weeks. At least they are being as proactive as possible. is a Navy Corpsman working in a medical facility on a very large naval base. THAT worries me. I'm not sick and tired of the news about coronavirus at all. I'm trying to stay informed and educated as this story evolves so that we can take whatever precautions are prudent to protect our family (and others) through this unfolding situation. I'm not an alarmist at all. I tend to have wait-and-see tendencies. But I'm also not being complacent or cavalier about this. The potential negative outcomes from it are just too great. Awww! I did not know this! Congratulations on your first grand baby! |
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Post by katybee on Mar 3, 2020 2:58:07 GMT
A friend of mine is a Microbiologist who works at Walter Reed in the Infectious Diseases department. Her department tracks infectious diseases around the world. She works with things like Anthrax, Ebola, etc. so I totally believe what she says. I asked her yesterday what her take is on this.
She said that she is so tired of the media blowing this all out of proportion. Everyone in her department says the EXACT same thing, It's a virus. It's a cold or flu like symptoms. The only new thing is that we haven't seen it before and just like every strain of flu that comes out each year, it's new. There isn't anything different other than the media is predicting a doomsday event. No kids have died from it nor have they found any kids with it. Those who have died had weakened immune systems. Healthy individuals should be fine.
I asked her about them calling it a pandemic. She said it absolutely is NOT a pandemic. The reason that China and some other countries are going into lockdown is that if Northern India gets it, then there will be a problem because they lack any type of adequate healthcare or measures to control it.
People die from the flu every year, this is absolutely no different.
She said the best thing to do is get your flu shot and wash your hands! We do not need to make a run on the grocery stores!
There are LOTS of reasons this is NOT the same as the flu. The average incubation period for the flu is 2 days. The incubation period for Covid-19 is 14 days...some say as high as 24 days. That’s 2 weeks people could be walking around with no symptoms shedding the virus. The R0 of the flu is ~1.2. Meaning for every person that has the flu, THEY will infect 1.2 people. The R0 for Covid-19 is almost twice that at 2.2. So it’s going to spread a lot faster. Which means a bunch of people will be sick all at the same time. According to the CDC, 80% of the people that get Covid-19 will be fine. 20% will need more serious medical care. Hospitals could EASILY be overwhelmed with a large number of patients needing the same kind of care. We don’t even have enough masks....much less things like respirators. There is a vaccine for the flu. There is not a vaccine for Clovis-19. The death rate for the flu is .1%. The death rate for Clovid-19 is anywhere from 1.4%-2.3%. Like I’ve said in other threads, it’s easy to dismiss this if you are young and healthy. But as someone who loves someone whose immune system is compromised...I’m going to take it seriously. I haven’t seem ANYONE in the media blowing this out of proportion. I’ve heard DOCTORS saying what you’re saying...wash yours hands, be smart. Nobody I know is doomsday prepping. We must watch/read different news sources. |
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Post by Merge on Mar 3, 2020 3:06:18 GMT
I also don't see a "blowing out of proportion" in the media. Maybe I'm consuming the wrong media? Who knows. I see a lot of facts being reported and people in comments sections reacting in ways that could be called out of proportion. I see Trump-supporting politicians bringing greater alarm to the problem than needed by freaking out about people supposedly freaking out.
I am definitely concerned for the elderly, the immunocompromised, and those with chronic underlying health conditions. We have all of these in our extended family and it worries me a great deal. Three nieces/nephews with cystic fibrosis. My sister has an autoimmune disease and takes medications that suppress her immune system. MIL is recovering from knee surgery so she has been in and out of hospitals, and supposed to spend spring break here with our younger daughter - do we still ask her to get on a plane and come to a much larger city where she has a numerically greater chance of contracting the virus? Is that the right thing to do or do we cancel our plans and have her stay in her remote town in Montana? Who knows.
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Post by PEAcan pie on Mar 3, 2020 3:41:13 GMT
A friend of mine is a Microbiologist who works at Walter Reed in the Infectious Diseases department. Her department tracks infectious diseases around the world. She works with things like Anthrax, Ebola, etc. so I totally believe what she says. I asked her yesterday what her take is on this.
She said that she is so tired of the media blowing this all out of proportion. Everyone in her department says the EXACT same thing, It's a virus. It's a cold or flu like symptoms. The only new thing is that we haven't seen it before and just like every strain of flu that comes out each year, it's new. There isn't anything different other than the media is predicting a doomsday event. No kids have died from it nor have they found any kids with it. Those who have died had weakened immune systems. Healthy individuals should be fine.
I asked her about them calling it a pandemic. She said it absolutely is NOT a pandemic. The reason that China and some other countries are going into lockdown is that if Northern India gets it, then there will be a problem because they lack any type of adequate healthcare or measures to control it.
People die from the flu every year, this is absolutely no different.
She said the best thing to do is get your flu shot and wash your hands! We do not need to make a run on the grocery stores!
I had a very good friend 38 and an Uncle 53 pass from the FLU, so that Virus scares me! I had the FLU and I was very very sick. Just knowing that this Virus is out there and it does claim the lives of Heathy people is frightening. I am really afraid for my Mother and In-laws. If any of them contact this virus they will not make it. My mother has cancer and bad asthma, In-law had a kidney transplant and she is in her late 70's and her husband has Copd/Emphysema. |
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Post by PEAcan pie on Mar 3, 2020 4:58:44 GMT
This was posted on my Facebook page today
Juliana Grant, MD MPH
Home About Blog Contact
Coronavirus: an email to my family
Notes: I originally wrote this to share with my family and close friends. It’s now getting passed around so I’m posting it publicly. I have revised the language slightly a few times. This is the most current version.
Hi folks,
A number of you have asked me what I think is going to happen with coronavirus (COVID-19) and what we should be doing to prepare. I have a few thoughts about what’s likely to happen and what you can do about it. For those of you who don’t know me well, I am a preventive medicine physician and infectious disease epidemiologist. I graduated from the CDC’s Epidemic Intelligence Service and have over 17 years of experience in the field, most of that with CDC.
Wishing everyone good health,
Juliana
Who should you listen to?
The CDC and your state health department are your best place for information about COVID-19. (Listen to them before you listen to me.) Be cautious about other sources of information - many of them will not be reliable or accurate.
How bad is this going to be?
It’s possible that COVID-19 will be similar to a bad flu year but there are a number of indications that it will be very much like the 1918 Flu Pandemic. To put that in perspective, the 1918 flu did not end civilization as we know it but it was the second-deadliest event of the last 200 years. Expect people you know to die.
However, there is one critical difference between COVID-19 and the 1918 flu - the 1918 flu virus hit children and young adults particularly hard. COVID-19 seems to be most severe in older adults. Children and young adults generally have mild infections. We are grateful for this.
What can we expect?
This is not the zombie apocalypse. Core infrastructure (e.g., power, water, supermarkets, internet, government, etc.) will continue to work, perhaps with some minor disruptions.
There will be significant economic disruption: a global recession is very possible and there will probably be significant shortages of some products. The healthcare system will be hit the hardest. The number of people who are likely to get sick is higher than our healthcare systems can probably handle.
Daily life will be impacted in important ways. Travel is likely to be limited and public gatherings will probably be canceled. Schools will probably be closed. Expect health departments to start issuing these orders in the near future, especially on the West Coast.
The acute pandemic will probably last at least for several months and quite possibly for a year or two.
What can we do?
We can’t keep COVID-19 from being a global pandemic but the more we can do to slow the spread of the disease, the less severe the impact will be. With that in mind, here are the things you can do:
Stay calm but take it seriously. This will likely be bad but it’s not the apocalypse.
Stay home if you’re sick or someone in your house is sick.
Leave medical supplies for healthcare workers. You shouldn’t be stockpiling masks or other medical supplies. They are needed in hospitals to keep our healthcare workers healthy.
Wash your hands. Get in the habit of frequently washing your hands thoroughly and covering your cough.
Minimize your exposure. Now that we’re starting to see community transmission in the U.S., it’s probably time to start cutting back on your exposure to other people. Depending on your circumstances, consider:
Canceling non-essential travel
Avoiding large-scale gatherings
Working from home if possible
Minimizing direct contact with others including hand shakes and hugs
Reducing your trips out of the house. If possible, shop for two weeks of groceries at once or consider having your groceries delivered. Stay home and cook instead of going to a restaurant.
Remember, keep calm and prepare. This is likely to be bad but if we respond calmly and thoughtfully we can handle it.
Feel free to share this email as you see fit.
February 29, 2020
Previous
How is COVID-19 like the 1918 flu?
Juliana Grant LLC is a business registered and licensed in the state of Washington.
Juliana Grant is licensed to practice medicine in California and Washington.
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Post by flanz on Mar 3, 2020 5:13:39 GMT
This was posted on my Facebook page today Juliana Grant, MD MPH Home About Blog Contact Coronavirus: an email to my family Notes: I originally wrote this to share with my family and close friends. It’s now getting passed around so I’m posting it publicly. I have revised the language slightly a few times. This is the most current version. Hi folks, A number of you have asked me what I think is going to happen with coronavirus (COVID-19) and what we should be doing to prepare. I have a few thoughts about what’s likely to happen and what you can do about it. For those of you who don’t know me well, I am a preventive medicine physician and infectious disease epidemiologist. I graduated from the CDC’s Epidemic Intelligence Service and have over 17 years of experience in the field, most of that with CDC. Wishing everyone good health, Juliana Who should you listen to? The CDC and your state health department are your best place for information about COVID-19. (Listen to them before you listen to me.) Be cautious about other sources of information - many of them will not be reliable or accurate. How bad is this going to be? It’s possible that COVID-19 will be similar to a bad flu year but there are a number of indications that it will be very much like the 1918 Flu Pandemic. To put that in perspective, the 1918 flu did not end civilization as we know it but it was the second-deadliest event of the last 200 years. Expect people you know to die. However, there is one critical difference between COVID-19 and the 1918 flu - the 1918 flu virus hit children and young adults particularly hard. COVID-19 seems to be most severe in older adults. Children and young adults generally have mild infections. We are grateful for this. What can we expect? This is not the zombie apocalypse. Core infrastructure (e.g., power, water, supermarkets, internet, government, etc.) will continue to work, perhaps with some minor disruptions. There will be significant economic disruption: a global recession is very possible and there will probably be significant shortages of some products. The healthcare system will be hit the hardest. The number of people who are likely to get sick is higher than our healthcare systems can probably handle. Daily life will be impacted in important ways. Travel is likely to be limited and public gatherings will probably be canceled. Schools will probably be closed. Expect health departments to start issuing these orders in the near future, especially on the West Coast. The acute pandemic will probably last at least for several months and quite possibly for a year or two. What can we do? We can’t keep COVID-19 from being a global pandemic but the more we can do to slow the spread of the disease, the less severe the impact will be. With that in mind, here are the things you can do: Stay calm but take it seriously. This will likely be bad but it’s not the apocalypse. Stay home if you’re sick or someone in your house is sick. Leave medical supplies for healthcare workers. You shouldn’t be stockpiling masks or other medical supplies. They are needed in hospitals to keep our healthcare workers healthy. Wash your hands. Get in the habit of frequently washing your hands thoroughly and covering your cough. Minimize your exposure. Now that we’re starting to see community transmission in the U.S., it’s probably time to start cutting back on your exposure to other people. Depending on your circumstances, consider: Canceling non-essential travel Avoiding large-scale gatherings Working from home if possible Minimizing direct contact with others including hand shakes and hugs Reducing your trips out of the house. If possible, shop for two weeks of groceries at once or consider having your groceries delivered. Stay home and cook instead of going to a restaurant. Remember, keep calm and prepare. This is likely to be bad but if we respond calmly and thoughtfully we can handle it. Feel free to share this email as you see fit. February 29, 2020 Previous How is COVID-19 like the 1918 flu? Juliana Grant LLC is a business registered and licensed in the state of Washington. Juliana Grant is licensed to practice medicine in California and Washington. I saw this a bit ago as well. Thanks for sharing it here. |
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Mar 3, 2020 12:09:32 GMT
Awww! I did not know this! Congratulations on your first grand baby! Thanks! I'm pretty excited. |
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Post by MerryMom on Mar 3, 2020 13:57:15 GMT
Four years ago, my then 23 year old nephew died from the “killer cold virus” aka adenovirus 14. He had no other health issues.
So no, I’m not sick and tired of hearing about the corona virus.
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Post by casii on Mar 3, 2020 14:21:18 GMT
My DS and DDIL live in Seattle so I'm not tired of it. Plus we're supposed to visit the in April.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 3, 2020 14:30:50 GMT
I think it’s good to be more informed than less informed. People who are just saying “oh, it’s just like the flu” bug me because honestly people really should take that much more seriously than they do.
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Post by finaledition on Mar 3, 2020 20:22:25 GMT
I returned home last night from Spain and while I didn’t spend much time reading the news, I read the headlines so was pretty aware that fear is on the rise.
I left yesterday early in the morning and could feel a cough coming on, no other symptoms. By the time I reached home my cough was in full force. Went to bed and woke up with a fever. So at this point I knew I had something and to be quite honest even though I was in an area thought to be safe, I suppose there was the slightest chance I caught it. And honestly I wasn’t quite sure what to do. First I kept my son home as a precaution and then I went to urgent care. I wasn’t sure if the hazmat workers were going to come out. LOL
Long story short, even with hand washing, hand sanitizers and and Clorox wipes, I came home with influenza A (which in all likelihood is what you could pick up as opposed Covid19).
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Post by jubejubes on Mar 3, 2020 20:40:46 GMT
My healthy 16 year old currently has pneumonia. My healthy 18 year old has asthma. My dad is 68 with a history of chronic pneumonia and bronchitis. My father in law is 74 with diabetes and is currently undergoing treatment for prostate cancer. I think it's really tasteless to dismiss the risk of a global epidemic of a respiratory virus only because you personally don't fall into a high risk group. (Or in some cases I've seen it from anti-vaxxers who want to make a political point. Equally tasteless.) Italy doesn't have any of the "issues" (real or not) that your friend identified about China - what's her explanation for the outbreak there? At any rate, I am not panicking. I haven't canceled our upcoming trip to NYC, I sent my kid with asthma on 2 different airplanes yesterday, I let my kid with pneumonia attend multiple events with large crowds over the last few days. Simply wondering why you would let your kid with pneumonia out in large crowds, where they could infect other people? |
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Post by scrappinmama on Mar 3, 2020 20:54:43 GMT
My healthy 16 year old currently has pneumonia. My healthy 18 year old has asthma. My dad is 68 with a history of chronic pneumonia and bronchitis. My father in law is 74 with diabetes and is currently undergoing treatment for prostate cancer. I think it's really tasteless to dismiss the risk of a global epidemic of a respiratory virus only because you personally don't fall into a high risk group. (Or in some cases I've seen it from anti-vaxxers who want to make a political point. Equally tasteless.) Italy doesn't have any of the "issues" (real or not) that your friend identified about China - what's her explanation for the outbreak there? At any rate, I am not panicking. I haven't canceled our upcoming trip to NYC, I sent my kid with asthma on 2 different airplanes yesterday, I let my kid with pneumonia attend multiple events with large crowds over the last few days. Simply wondering why you would let your kid with pneumonia out in large crowds, where they could infect other people? I don't think pneumonia is always contagious. But I know the one time I had pneumonia I felt so sick that I couldn't get out of bed. |
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Post by Sarah*H on Mar 3, 2020 22:15:26 GMT
Because she's been on antibiotics long enough that she's no longer contagious.
ETA: I will also add that we discussed her obligations with her doctor before she went out anywhere and her doctor said it was fine for her to continue with those obligations.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Mar 4, 2020 18:11:55 GMT
We've been getting daily updates from Security at work. Today's update has additional restrictions: No foreign or domestic travel. No external meetings with clients/vendors greater than 25 people. I think that's such an arbitrary number but I get they're playing the odds. If you complete ANY travel (foreign or domestic) you must work from home for 14 days and be symptom free for all 14 days before returning to the office. I've worked for this company thru other epidemics and they've never had this response before. One thing that got me was the comment saying "we are taking all possible steps to ensure employee safety but it's our opinion that this will get worse before it gets better". You can't ensure that Karen, in the stall next to me, is washing her hands. So many people don't wash their hands  . I've said several times this week "would you please wash your hands". I don't want to be THAT person, but I'm that person right now and I don't feel bad about it. |
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Post by busy on Mar 4, 2020 18:29:29 GMT
Oh, look, they found some women to stand there for a picture. |
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Post by MichyM on Mar 4, 2020 18:47:18 GMT
As many of you know I'm in Seattle, near downtown. There has been a good amount of conversation from our local leaders who are trying to manage this virus in our city, country, state. They are not getting pertainent information and direction from the federal government about who gets tested, guidelines for managing those who have come in contact with those who have tested positive, etc.
I had dinner the other night with a good sized group of friends, half of whom still work. These are women high up in government banking, education, and medicine (one also has a daughter who is a Dr specializing in infectious disease, so you can imagine the stories she's hearing). Dealing with this is the main crux of their workload right now. By the way, there was a sign on the restaurant door asking that those with cold or flu symptoms to please not come inside and to cancel their reservation online. It's the real deal here. Schools have been closed for cleanings. One school district has already moved to online learning for the next 2 weeks.
Meanwhile, 9 dead in our community since Friday. More local cases announced daily. One new patient works a mile away from me and in an area of town I'm in frequently (I'll be there twice next week, both in large social settings of 50+ people). It will likely grow like wildfire in this particular Seatte neighborhood as it is densly populated and there are thousands of workers (predominately) tech workers who work in the area daily. Saving grace is that most are under the age of 40 so hopefully it won't be as devistating as it's been at the nursing facility in Kirkland. Also, I would imagine that many will be able to tele-work fairly easily.
After last night's announcement I came to the realization that most likely many people in this area will become infected, myself included....I feel like it's simply inevitable. I can only hope that my health is such that it doesn't turn into more than a mild illness for me.
Buckle up, buttercups.....
ETA: mid-day news is on and it is being reported that it's now 10 dead since Friday.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Mar 4, 2020 19:06:44 GMT
As many of you know I'm in Seattle, near downtown. There has been a good amount of conversation from our local leaders who are trying to manage this virus in our city, country, state. They are not getting pertainent information and direction from the federal government about who gets tested, guidelines for managing those who have come in contact with those who have tested positive, etc. I had dinner the other night with a good sized group of friends, half of whom still work. These are women high up in government banking, education, and medicine (one also has a daughter who is a Dr specializing in infectious disease, so you can imagine the stories she's hearing). Dealing with this is the main crux of their workload right now. By the way, there was a sign on the restaurant door asking that those with cold or flu symptoms to please not come inside and to cancel their reservation online. It's the real deal here. Schools have been closed for cleanings. One school district has already moved to online learning for the next 2 weeks. Meanwhile, 9 dead in our community since Friday. More local cases announced daily. One new patient works a mile away from me and in an area of town I'm in frequently (I'll be there twice next week, both in large social settings of 50+ people). It will likely grow like wildfire in this particular Seatte neighborhood as it is densly populated and there are thousands of workers (predominately) tech workers who work in the area daily. Saving grace is that most are under the age of 40 so hopefully it won't be as devistating as it's been at the nursing facility in Kirkland. Also, I would imagine that many will be able to tele-work fairly easily. After last night's announcement I came to the realization that most likely many people in this area will become infected, myself included....I feel like it's simply inevitable. I can only hope that my health is such that it doesn't turn into more than a mild illness for me. Buckle up, buttercups.....and if you have hand sanitizer an/or isopropyl alcohol) available in your area and would consider mailing some to me (I'd pay of course) please send me a PM. I don't use it typically, and am washing my hands like mad, but it's still something I'd like to have on hand. Thanks  I think the rest of the country is watching your area to see what you do to try and slow it’s progress. I’m kind of surprised there isn’t more of an effort to encourage telecommuting but maybe there is as obviously not all jobs can be done that way. Also surprised there isn’t more of an effort to discourage large group meetings. I keep expecting to hear policies being out into place and soon before it really gets out if control. Hoping you can stay safe and also like hearing what’s really happening from a real person. |
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Post by MichyM on Mar 4, 2020 19:15:18 GMT
Thanks Scrapper100 . I've been trying to just post facts and not get swept up into the crazy. I'm glad you find it helpful. The title - and some of the thoughts expressed in this thread STILL make me really mad. I wish the OP would come back to the thread. I'm curious if her thoughts have chaged now that we're a couple more days into this. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Mar 4, 2020 19:24:51 GMT
Thanks Scrapper100 . I've been trying to just post facts and not get swept up into the crazy. I'm glad you find it helpful. The title - and some of the thoughts expressed in this thread STILL make me really mad. I wish the OP would come back to the thread. I'm curious if her thoughts have chaged now that we're a couple more days into this. I’m choosing to ignore the title and just use the information in the different threads. I’m in Riverside county so close to March Air Force base where evacuees were sent. I was born and raised in San Diego which is only an hour away where more evacuees are located as well as our remaining older family members. We have at last count 8700 people being watched in California so it’s very real here even if we don’t have a lot of cases here currently. It’s only a matter of time. |
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Post by casii on Mar 4, 2020 19:25:45 GMT
Thanks Scrapper100 . I've been trying to just post facts and not get swept up into the crazy. I'm glad you find it helpful. The title - and some of the thoughts expressed in this thread STILL make me really mad. I wish the OP would come back to the thread. I'm curious if her thoughts have chaged now that we're a couple more days into this. I appreciate your input especially so since my DS and DDIL live in Seattle. Being young, they're being a bit cavalier in my opinion. DDIL takes public transportation to work which worries me even more. She can telecommute a day or 2 each week, but I wish the company would expand that option at this time. DS is a sports therapist who is hands-on with people all day. So you can imagine my Mama Bear instincts have kicked in and I'm probably annoying them with my worry wart check ins. |
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Post by epeanymous on Mar 4, 2020 19:29:53 GMT
I’m another one in Seattle and work at a law school. We had a two-hour meeting yesterday about what to do at this point. Basically we’re eliminating attendance requirements, but the university is still open. It is kind of the worst of both worlds right now, in that the university is open so students and professors are expected to show up, but I may end up teaching essentially a second course for each class online :/. We’re also being told to get our ducks in a row to go online. Our cleaning crews have had their service switched from daily bathroom/weekly building to daily building/bathrooms multiple times a day. There are wipes stations all over the place on the office floors where admins normally kept candy bowls.
I am not on the front lines of dealing with student complaints, but there are a lot of students who want us to close. It is such a hard needle to thread—on the one hand, our public health authorities have not suggested closing schools. On the other hand, the information is spotty—it is so hard to get tested that it is unclear what the extent of the problem is here, or how many people have died from
this, since people aren’t being tested for it.
My walkable grocery (the QFC down the hill!) no longer even has a hand sanitizer section. It existed but was empty yesterday; when I check it this morning, they had replaced that section with something else, so...I am guessing they are not expecting more in any time soon.
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 4, 2020 19:35:17 GMT
Thanks Scrapper100 . I've been trying to just post facts and not get swept up into the crazy. I'm glad you find it helpful. The title - and some of the thoughts expressed in this thread STILL make me really mad. I wish the OP would come back to the thread. I'm curious if her thoughts have chaged now that we're a couple more days into this. Is the Amazon building where a case was reported yesterday one of their cooperate offices? I don’t normally get swept up in the crazy either, but this is different and it is worrisome. If I can find some hand sanitizer I would be happy to send you some, but since I am not terribly far away from you and there are several suspected cases here there isn’t any to be found. It is extremely frustrating that the Orange Menace is trivializing it and has put “Mr. let’s pray the gay away” in charge. It would ease my fears if I thought the powers that be had a better handle on it. |
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. I've said several times this week "would you please wash your hands". I don't want to be THAT person, but I'm that person right now and I don't feel bad about it. 
