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Post by pancakes on Mar 25, 2020 20:30:34 GMT
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Post by PLurker on Mar 25, 2020 20:39:19 GMT
Not to this extent, I don't think. He inflamed it with his trumpsters. This is in progressive Madison on UWMadison campus after his presser.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 4:28:58 GMT
Louisiana's turn in the docket. "Baton Rouge recorded its first two deaths from coronavirus over the weekend — a woman in her 40s who also suffered from an underlying medical condition and an elderly Mississippi man brought to the city for treatment. The news of their deaths Monday came just hours before state officials announced a second cluster of cases had been discovered at a Donaldsonville retirement home. Both revelations highlight how quickly the virus is spreading across Louisiana while the testing process struggles to catch up, leaving the public with an incomplete picture of the problem even as local and state officials continue imploring residents to heed warnings and stay home. As statewide testing numbers have jumped in recent days, so have the number of confirmed cases. Data released Monday from the Louisiana Department of Health show almost 1,200 cases across the state, a significant increase over the day before. Those numbers include 43 cases in East Baton Rouge Parish and the new cluster at Chateau D'Ville, where officials have identified five infected residents. That's the second known cluster in the state, joining Lambeth House in New Orleans, which remains an epicenter of the virus in Louisiana. The state has confirmed 42 cases at the Lambeth House, including nine of Louisiana's 34 deaths caused by the virus... Gov. John Bel Edwards announced Sunday a "stay at home" order for all state residents through April 12, saying Louisiana has the fastest growth rate of confirmed cases in the world and ranks third in the nation — behind New York and Washington State — in per capita cases." www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/coronavirus/article_e0b5c39e-6d17-11ea-b28c-53f1e44e6e14.html
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 5:20:02 GMT
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Post by dewryce on Mar 26, 2020 5:26:14 GMT
Nope. The buck stops at the top. If you watched on social media one night after it was officially named COVID19 “the Chinese virus” and “Wuhan virus” started trending, spreading like wildfire from bots with statement from even some members of the GOP and from right wing political commentators. Instead of being responsible and speaking out against it, Trump purposefully made it worse. He should be condemning it at every one of his WH pep rallies, he has the time. But he chooses to spend his air time talking about how he is the victim and the wonderful job he is doing instead of protecting citizens of the United States.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Mar 26, 2020 5:27:57 GMT
this is just tragic... and totally unnecessary.
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Post by lucyg on Mar 26, 2020 5:41:03 GMT
Not to this extent, I don't think. He inflamed it with his trumpsters. This is in progressive Madison on UWMadison campus after his presser. ahhh, the Young Republicans are at work again, I see.
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Post by lucyg on Mar 26, 2020 5:43:08 GMT
I absolutely can’t Like that one.
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Post by pancakes on Mar 26, 2020 6:51:19 GMT
Nope. The buck stops at the top. If you watched on social media one night after it was officially named COVID19 “the Chinese virus” and “Wuhan virus” started trending, spreading like wildfire from bots with statement from even some members of the GOP and from right wing political commentators. Instead of being responsible and speaking out against it, Trump purposefully made it worse. He should be condemning it at every one of his WH pep rallies, he has the time. But he chooses to spend his air time talking about how he is the victim and the wonderful job he is doing instead of protecting citizens of the United States. I guarantee that people would still be saying these things without Trump. I’ve lived it.
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Post by wellway on Mar 26, 2020 7:43:02 GMT
It is beyond some people to understand that not everyone puts money before everything else. Money appears to be the be all and end all for certain personality traits and it's inconceivable to them that others have purer motives. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing
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Post by Enna on Mar 26, 2020 8:35:08 GMT
Oh wow. They are serious about the situation here in Finland. Most cases are in the capital region and yesterday the goverment announced that they are going to isolate the region from rest of country.
This morning police informed that they are going to stop every car that is leaving or entering the region and all train passengers. Only valid reasons to leave or enter are work, funerals and meeting your (young) children.
I can't imagine how much this requires from police. We might be seeing soldiers on the streets soon.
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Post by dewryce on Mar 26, 2020 8:41:33 GMT
Nope. The buck stops at the top. If you watched on social media one night after it was officially named COVID19 “the Chinese virus” and “Wuhan virus” started trending, spreading like wildfire from bots with statement from even some members of the GOP and from right wing political commentators. Instead of being responsible and speaking out against it, Trump purposefully made it worse. He should be condemning it at every one of his WH pep rallies, he has the time. But he chooses to spend his air time talking about how he is the victim and the wonderful job he is doing instead of protecting citizens of the United States. I guarantee that people would still be saying these things without Trump. I’ve lived it. I’m sure some would. But he has made it socially acceptable, he has emboldened people. And he of all people should be condemning it, not fanning the flames.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 26, 2020 9:26:51 GMT
Tomorrow, we have a grocery pick-up. It has been 10 days since we last got groceries. We don't have a pantry, freezer or full-sized fridge so we're getting real close to nothing but some rice and a few tins of sardines. I'm SO excited. To celebrate, we're eating our final pot of chocolate dessert cream/flan after lunch.
Who wants to bet how much of our order will be missing? [nervouslaughter.gif]
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 26, 2020 9:30:45 GMT
I absolutely can’t Like that one. I am clicking the thumb up button to express "I've read this, I hear you, I support what you're saying/denouncing" because otherwise, there wouldn't be many posts I could "like" these days...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 10:03:58 GMT
This is an interesting resource citymapper - tracks movement through the cities, you can compare 2 weeks ago to yesterday. Melbourne is still 42% but the lockdown of restaurants/bars etc didn't happen until 12 midday. I'll be keeping an eye on it to see how much it changes. Crazy though that places like Paris have 4% of movement in their cities these days.Not crazy at all if you look at logically - key workers such as medics, law enforcement, fire fighters, transport workers, food delivery to stores around the country and such like where their base is in the cities - they all have to get to work. In a city like Paris and London most if not all of these people live outside of the city. There is at least 9 or ten large hospitals in London, not to mention the smaller ones or the private ones. Most of their staff, medics as well as ancillary live way outside London and commute. I would expect somewhere like Paris would be the same. It's impossible to have zero Multiply that by the other key workers and the percentage isn't quite as crazy as what it seems.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 26, 2020 10:52:56 GMT
This is an interesting resource citymapper - tracks movement through the cities, you can compare 2 weeks ago to yesterday. Melbourne is still 42% but the lockdown of restaurants/bars etc didn't happen until 12 midday. I'll be keeping an eye on it to see how much it changes. Crazy though that places like Paris have 4% of movement in their cities these days.Not crazy at all if you look at logically - key workers such as medics, law enforcement, fire fighters, transport workers, food delivery to stores around the country and such like where their base is in the cities - they all have to get to work. In a city like Paris and London most if not all of these people live outside of the city. There is at least 9 or ten large hospitals in London, not to mention the smaller ones or the private ones. Most of their staff, medics as well as ancillary live way outside London and commute. I would expect somewhere like Paris would be the same. It's impossible to have zero Multiply that by the other key workers and the percentage isn't quite as crazy as what it seems. Paris is the same: the main hospitals are in the city centre so people are being brought over into the city or moved around the city. I find 4% to be very reasonable considering the fact that the Paris hospitals have reached full capacity for reanimation and that all hands are on deck right now. Add in food + medication deliveries as well as essential workers for everything that keeps a big city going (daily garbage pick-up, police forces, military as reinforcement right now, emergency administrative people, etc.) and that's a very normal number.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 10:59:24 GMT
Not crazy at all if you look at logically - key workers such as medics, law enforcement, fire fighters, transport workers, food delivery to stores around the country and such like where their base is in the cities - they all have to get to work. In a city like Paris and London most if not all of these people live outside of the city. There is at least 9 or ten large hospitals in London, not to mention the smaller ones or the private ones. Most of their staff, medics as well as ancillary live way outside London and commute. I would expect somewhere like Paris would be the same. It's impossible to have zero Multiply that by the other key workers and the percentage isn't quite as crazy as what it seems. Paris is the same: the main hospitals are in the city centre so people are being brought over into the city or moved around the city. I find 4% to be very reasonable considering the fact that the Paris hospitals have reached full capacity for reanimation and that all hands are on deck right now. Add in food + medication deliveries as well as essential workers for everything that keeps a big city going (daily garbage pick-up, police forces, military as reinforcement right now, emergency administrative people, etc.) and that's a very normal number. Exactly! I totally agree.
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Post by gar on Mar 26, 2020 11:46:29 GMT
Who wants to bet how much of our order will be missing? [nervouslaughter.gif] I hope you get lost if not all your supplies!
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Post by hop2 on Mar 26, 2020 11:53:39 GMT
and NO, we would NEVER see DT within a MILE of an infectious disease hospital. Nothing that would put HIM in jeopardy, ever. Not even for the appearance of compassion. but he can get on a podium with a bunch of people some of whom were in the senate gym Same thing
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 26, 2020 13:40:07 GMT
Nope. The buck stops at the top. If you watched on social media one night after it was officially named COVID19 “the Chinese virus” and “Wuhan virus” started trending, spreading like wildfire from bots with statement from even some members of the GOP and from right wing political commentators. Instead of being responsible and speaking out against it, Trump purposefully made it worse. He should be condemning it at every one of his WH pep rallies, he has the time. But he chooses to spend his air time talking about how he is the victim and the wonderful job he is doing instead of protecting citizens of the United States. I guarantee that people would still be saying these things without Trump. I’ve lived it. I believe you! The difference is that the SUPPOSED to be president is saying it. He approves of it. Other presidents would not, and say so.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 26, 2020 13:52:53 GMT
Who wants to bet how much of our order will be missing? [nervouslaughter.gif] I hope you get lost if not all your supplies! Aww, merci. I'll settle for 60% of the stuff but secretly hoping for a little more...
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Mar 26, 2020 13:57:34 GMT
but he can get on a podium with a bunch of people some of whom were in the senate gym Same thing hmmm... I honestly don't think he's intelligent enough to understand that. But putting on a HAZMAT suit and going into a hospital with (visibly) *sick* people? THAT he would understand, and it would scare the crap out of him, because he's a coward.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 26, 2020 19:43:41 GMT
Santé publique France, the French agency for public health (under the Ministry of Health), announces that their current estimates for the true extent of the SARS-CoV2 spread in France is significantly higher than what is officially tallied: 40 000 new infections in just one week (!) per their data collection beyond hospital tests (through GPs). They warn that the virus is spreading extremely quickly and quietly.
Thank Zeus we have some decent transparency in the higher spheres here. Unions and organisations in the public medical field are already discussing going after those in power for not handling this crisis well enough. I'll say this: the French will come for the head of their leaders, no mercy. We got the then Minister of Health and other people in authority sentenced for the contaminated blood scandal of the 1990s. We will go after those who made poor decisions in February and early March. Serious media here are reporting that the government is already discussing the possible repercussions and fearing the legal consequences of having been too lax earlier in the year.
I'm afraid this kind of accountability won't be possible or "made available" in *some* other countries, including Western democracies. It's messed up. Those in power made huge mistakes and are making huge mistakes currently in some places. Do whatever you can to make them shake in their boots. Stay safe but do whatever you can to make these people pay for their terrible decisions. This shouldn't go unpunished. I'm pissed off tonight. People are losing their lives and other people are losing their lives trying to save as many as they can. This is unacceptable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 21:13:04 GMT
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Post by elaine on Mar 26, 2020 21:17:13 GMT
Santé publique France, the French agency for public health (under the Ministry of Health), announces that their current estimates for the true extent of the SARS-CoV2 spread in France is significantly higher than what is officially tallied: 40 000 new infections in just one week (!) per their data collection beyond hospital tests (through GPs). They warn that the virus is spreading extremely quickly and quietly. Thank Zeus we have some decent transparency in the higher spheres here. Unions and organisations in the public medical field are already discussing going after those in power for not handling this crisis well enough. I'll say this: the French will come for the head of their leaders, no mercy. We got the then Minister of Health and other people in authority sentenced for the contaminated blood scandal of the 1990s. We will go after those who made poor decisions in February and early March. Serious media here are reporting that the government is already discussing the possible repercussions and fearing the legal consequences of having been too lax earlier in the year. I'm afraid this kind of accountability won't be possible or "made available" in other countries, including Western democracies. It's messed up. Those in power made huge mistakes and are making huge mistakes currently in some places. Do whatever you can to make them shake in their boots. Stay safe but do whatever you can to make these people pay for their terrible decisions. This shouldn't go unpunished. I'm pissed off tonight. People are losing their lives and other people are losing their lives trying to save as many as they can. This is unacceptable. I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate all of your posts here on this topic more than I can express. It helps me to hear from our peas in various countries about what is going on. Thank you.
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Post by jubejubes on Mar 26, 2020 21:30:11 GMT
I'm afraid this kind of accountability won't be possible or "made available" in other countries, including Western democracies. The Canadian Government has been transparent about the Covid-19 crisis.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 26, 2020 21:37:38 GMT
I'm afraid this kind of accountability won't be possible or "made available" in other countries, including Western democracies. The Canadian Government has been transparent about the Covid-19 crisis. I didn't mean all other countries, just some. I've edited my message to reflect this.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 27, 2020 0:02:58 GMT
Russia’s President Vladimir Putin took no chances this week when he visited coronavirus patients in a Moscow hospital, sporting a full hazmat suit and breathing mask to protect himself from the bug. A lady I work with is Russian, she lived there until she was 30yo... she said she'd bet her last dollar that it wasn't Putin in the suit when he actually went into the ward.
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