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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 5, 2020 3:21:14 GMT
I see it as if someone said, I hate parsnips because I don't like beef. And I once ate a carrots and I didn't like them, so I am not going to try parsnips. But like I said, I have tried parsnips. I have been exposed to parsnips on a number of occasions in a variety of preparations. Someone listed a couple reasons they didn't like parsnips. I could have listed off every single reason I also didn't like parsnips, but I didn't want it to come across as criticism of people who do like parsnips, or an anti parsnip rant on my part. So I agreed with the reasons they gave, because they are 2 of the reasons that are part of my list. How immersed in parsnips do I have to get before parsnip fans agree that I have made an educated decision about my feelings on parsnips? Do I have to spend hundreds of dollars on parsnips? Go to parsnip classes? Get parsnip tattoos? Name my first born child parsnip?   |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 5, 2020 3:21:49 GMT
I had no idea it was rap. Now I won’t even bother trying to watch. I was considering it but yeah not my style.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jul 5, 2020 3:24:11 GMT
But like I said, I have tried parsnips. I have been exposed to parsnips on a number of occasions in a variety of preparations. Someone listed a couple reasons they didn't like parsnips. I could have listed off every single reason I also didn't like parsnips, but I didn't want it to come across as criticism of people who do like parsnips, or an anti parsnip rant on my part. So I agreed with the reasons they gave, because they are 2 of the reasons that are part of my list. How immersed in parsnips do I have to get before parsnip fans agree that I have made an educated decision about my feelings on parsnips? Do I have to spend hundreds of dollars on parsnips? Go to parsnip classes? Get parsnip tattoos? Name my first born child parsnip? That would be a start. You have repeatedly besmirched parsnips, an old and noble root vegetable. **I’m kidding. Naming a child Parsnip made me laugh 😁 uh oh, are parsnips going to challenge me to a duel? |
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Post by samantha25 on Jul 5, 2020 3:25:37 GMT
Me! I didn't like the repetitive beat tone over and over and over. All I heard was LALALALALALALLALA.....drove me nuts that I could not focus on the message, until there were other styles, which I enjoyed.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 5, 2020 4:11:34 GMT
That would be a start. You have repeatedly besmirched parsnips, an old and noble root vegetable. **I’m kidding. Naming a child Parsnip made me laugh 😁 uh oh, are parsnips going to challenge me to a duel? 😂 I see what you did there. Hey, this is the Pea board. Annnnything can happen. 😁 For all we know, there could be a member named ParsnipPea. 🤷♀️ |
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Post by dewryce on Jul 5, 2020 4:13:51 GMT
I didn’t get the impression she’s bothered that we may not like it, rather that she’s trying to correct misinformation about the content of the show so that we can base our decisions on accurate descriptions. That was the way it read to me and also the spirit in which I wrote my posts. I’ve talked with lots of people that ended up giving it a chance and loving it, after initially having had the wrong impression. My posts weren’t intended to sway people to the Dark Side, more tickets for me if they aren’t  See, now this sounds like if we just educated ourselves about parsnips then we would love them. LOL, as I said above that’s not at all what I am trying to say but obviously I’m not communicating clearly. We went to see Book of Mormon and during intermission there was a woman in the bathroom loudly complaining about it and it was obvious she had no idea what kind of show she was in for. In case you’re unfamiliar, it’s not a show that most people in that religion would enjoy. It pokes fun at the stereotypes and history and can be raunchy, and she was blindsided with it. Had someone mentioned any of that to her she wouldn’t have gone (she actually left during intermission). I see this as the reverse of that situation. Someone who doesn’t want to listen to true rap/hip hop for the entire show can read here that the rap isn’t a more hard core rap like they might be expecting & that it’s a mix of different musical styles and then decide they might want to try it out. They might not, but at least now they’re making a more informed decision. tl;dr Just trying to be nice sharing information someone might not have about the show so they can make a more informed decision, not at all suggesting anyone is wrong for not liking it or not wanting to try it or even trying to convince them to try it. |
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jul 5, 2020 4:43:44 GMT
rather that she’s trying to correct misinformation about the content of the show so that we can base our decisions on accurate descriptions. I have absolutely no misinformation about the show and have read about it. There is no misinformation to correct. I do not like rap style music. It is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. That is what I am basing my decision on, and it is a valid method to use. I have not put down a single person who likes the show, just stated that I don't care to see it. Not sure why some of you are insistent that something is wrong with that decision. |
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Post by Skellinton on Jul 5, 2020 6:46:03 GMT
It doesn’t bother me that people don’t like it, there are plenty of tithings I don’t like that most people do (Beatles and Forrest Gump are the ones that come to mind) but it is odd to me to dismiss it because you don’t like rap. I hate rap and would rather listen to just about anything else, including what is considered country music right now (which I HATE) or an opera, but I love Hamilton.
I also think it is weird that some people refuse to see it or even listen to it. Like they are above it or something, that Is just really odd to me. I don’t now how you can say you won’t like some thing without listening to it or watching it.
If you at least attempted to listen to it or watch it and didn’t like, no big deal. We all have different tastes.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 5, 2020 7:56:16 GMT
rather that she’s trying to correct misinformation about the content of the show so that we can base our decisions on accurate descriptions. I have absolutely no misinformation about the show and have read about it. There is no misinformation to correct. I do not like rap style music. It is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. That is what I am basing my decision on, and it is a valid method to use. I have not put down a single person who likes the show, just stated that I don't care to see it. Not sure why some of you are insistent that something is wrong with that decision. I also have not put down anyone who doesn’t want to watch it. Have I stated anywhere that I think there is anything wrong with that decision? Or even anything saying something like “you have to give it a chance” or “try it you’ll like it?” I checked my posts and I don’t see where you are getting that from. I stated that I’ve spoken to people who weren’t clear about the show and once they found out what it was really like they enjoyed it. But I didn’t say I thought anyone was wrong or that they should make the decision to try it. Just stated the reason I wanted to share the 2 songs, to possibly help people like those I mentioned. If I’m wrong and I did put anyone down or suggest anyone was wrong for deciding not to watch it that’s fine; please show me so I can correct it because I can‘t find it and I’d like to change it. And in fact, I explicitly stated: tl;dr Just trying to be nice sharing information someone might not have about the show so they can make a more informed decision, not at all suggesting anyone is wrong for not liking it or not wanting to try it or even trying to convince them to try it. which is the exact opposite of what you’re saying. And in the post you partially quoted from I also said: Another example of trying to make sure I indicated that my intention was not to persuade because I thought someone was wrong. Okay, you are very aware of the show’s contents, as I’m sure some others are. But we have no way of knowing that based on short statements that simply call it a rap musical. And I’ve encountered many people who have misconceptions about what the show really is. Speaking for myself, I was just trying to share some songs that aren’t rap based in case someone wanted to listen and see if they appealed to them. That’s it. I’m sorry that I offended you/upset you. Again, please show me where because I’d like the opportunity to correct it. My intent was to be kind and provide information people might not have, not to persuade and certainly not to tell anyone their opinion was somehow wrong; and I tried very hard to use words that reflected that intention. |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jul 5, 2020 13:20:34 GMT
I had no idea it was rap. Now I won’t even bother trying to watch. I was considering it but yeah not my style. Only a very small part of it is rapping. its like there's only one parsnip in a whole batch of vegetable soup!  |
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Post by ajsweetpea on Jul 5, 2020 13:31:00 GMT
I started watching it last night with my husband and I love it so far! That being said, I love musicals and I love history too. The first few minutes were difficult to follow because it was going fast (I’m not familiar with the songs) so we turned on closed captioning and that has really helped me to follow along.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 5, 2020 13:34:19 GMT
I think being on Disney+ means it's not coming to the masses. I don't have Disney+. Once something is hyped as being the best thing EVAR, it's hard to live up to the hype for the uninitiated. It was many years before I watched Forrest Gump due to the never-ending hype. I knew it would never live up to it, and it didn't. EDITED FOR CLARITY! I mean, it’s $6.99. How much more to the masses does it need to be? Broadcast tv. I don’t assume everyone has every subscription service available. Just because I can afford it, I’m not subbing to Disney+. |
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Post by ddly on Jul 5, 2020 13:35:43 GMT
I have to admit that I have stayed away from anything Hamilton. I don't even know what it's about. I'm not sure if that means I don't like, I have no idea!  |
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Post by Sharon on Jul 5, 2020 14:30:56 GMT
I couldn't even try to watch it. It just doesn't interest me at all. I usually love musicals too.
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Post by artbabe on Jul 5, 2020 14:59:18 GMT
I love the soundtrack. Probably one of the best soundtracks of all soundtracks that have been made from Broadway. A lot of people don’t appreciate broadway soundtracks but I love a good soundtrack from Broadway. You are my hero.  I haven't seen it yet, but I saw the cast on SGN, and again on Jimmy Fallon, and in lots of clips and interviews on Youtube. I know all of the names of the lead cast. I saw Miranda tell the story of Hamilton on Drunk History. I know all of the words to Alexander Hamilton and Helpless. I'm a bit obsessed at this point and I haven't even seen it yet. I don't have Disney+ but my sister does so I'm going over there to see it this week. I hope it is as good as I anticipate it to be. I can understand why people wouldn't like it, though. Some people are more into showtunes and that sort of music. I don't get Phantom of the Opera. I saw it live and it does nothing for me. Now Jesus Christ Superstar, I love. I know all of the lyrics to JCS. I'm more of a rock/rap girl than showtunes. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 5, 2020 15:06:42 GMT
rather that she’s trying to correct misinformation about the content of the show so that we can base our decisions on accurate descriptions. I have absolutely no misinformation about the show and have read about it. There is no misinformation to correct. I do not like rap style music. It is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. That is what I am basing my decision on, and it is a valid method to use. I have not put down a single person who likes the show, just stated that I don't care to see it. Not sure why some of you are insistent that something is wrong with that decision. This is true for me as well. The fact that it is well over 2 hours is also a factor, since I have the attention span of a gnat. I have watched several songs though. King George is very talented. He looks familiar for some reason. |
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Post by Rhondito on Jul 5, 2020 15:15:40 GMT
I haven't watched all of it yet, but the songs aren't what people think of when you hear "rap music." It sounds nothing like rap music on the radio.
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Post by Sarah*H on Jul 5, 2020 15:42:14 GMT
I have absolutely no misinformation about the show and have read about it. There is no misinformation to correct. I do not like rap style music. It is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. That is what I am basing my decision on, and it is a valid method to use. I have not put down a single person who likes the show, just stated that I don't care to see it. Not sure why some of you are insistent that something is wrong with that decision. This is true for me as well. The fact that it is well over 2 hours is also a factor, since I have the attention span of a gnat. I have watched several songs though. King George is very talented. He looks familiar for some reason. Jonathan Groff is also the star of Mindhunter. |
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Post by Sarah*H on Jul 5, 2020 15:45:13 GMT
Also, like it or don't like it. Watch it or don't watch it. But please stop saying it's a rap musical or dismissing it out of hand for that reason because it's inaccurate and it makes you look willfully uninformed. There are some rap songs. There are many other styles of songs as well.
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Post by Skellinton on Jul 5, 2020 15:49:53 GMT
Broadcast tv. I don’t assume everyone has every subscription service available. Just because I can afford it, I’m not subbing to Disney+. Broadcast tv would mean we would need a cable service, right? It's obvious we are not a tv family, huh? Isn't that a lot more expensive than $6.99? Broadcast tv is just ABC, CBS, NBC etc. The channels you get with just your tv, although we can’t get broadcast tv without an antenna and that would cost us more then a month of Disney plus. I do want to say that I think this was a great way to bring it to the public. Of course not everyone can see it, but there is literally nothing anyone could do that would bring it to everyone, even broadcast tv. Because there are people who don’t even have TVs. There are people that don’t have homes. There is no way to enable it so everyone could see it, but I think Disney plus is pretty darn accessible and reasonably priced for a one month if that is all anyone wants. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 5, 2020 16:00:44 GMT
This is true for me as well. The fact that it is well over 2 hours is also a factor, since I have the attention span of a gnat. I have watched several songs though. King George is very talented. He looks familiar for some reason. Jonathan Groff is also the star of Mindhunter. OH! Okay, that’s where I’ve seen him. TY. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 5, 2020 16:05:02 GMT
You can get a tv antenna for $20 and never pay to watch tv again. Obviously, this is different for people in truly rural areas who may have trouble getting reception. But, for the average American, it is that easy. If you are near a larger city, you can get quite a few channels. I currently get 30 channels.
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Post by purplebee on Jul 5, 2020 16:35:34 GMT
While I love Broadway shows (and sad that I missed my annual trip to NY this year due to COVID), I was hesitant about Hamilton on Broadway because It is becoming more difficult for me to hear lyrics/lines in the theatre. Now I want to subscribe to a Disney+ to watch Hamilton for the Closed Captioning. That would be a huge help to me.
Glad everyone got a chance to watch. And I like parsnips, and beets too!
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 16:39:48 GMT
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Post by Sarah*H on Jul 5, 2020 16:43:37 GMT
It's Quiet UptownI am sharing this song as one example of the many non-rap songs in the musical.
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Post by stampbooker on Jul 5, 2020 17:32:08 GMT
I mean, it’s $6.99. How much more to the masses does it need to be? Broadcast tv. I don’t assume everyone has every subscription service available. Just because I can afford it, I’m not subbing to Disney+. Umm...I don't have broadcast tv and wouldn't know how to watch it if it was shown that way. I could be totally wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me if more people had access to streaming services these days than broadcast tv! |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 5, 2020 17:50:28 GMT
I find this an interesting perspective. I get my news from as many perspectives as I can. CNN, FoxNews, NPR, NYT, BBC, Reuters, AP, as well as other online sources. I would think that if Hamilton is to be critiqued, it should be from personal knowledge, not just what someone has said (even if it is Toni Morrison). I think if the BLM movement has taught us anything, it's that we need to educate ourselves, not just rely on others to explain it to us. You may find the even the most respected person may or may not have the same perspective you do. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 5, 2020 17:53:37 GMT
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 17:54:26 GMT
I find this an interesting perspective. I get my news from as many perspectives as I can. CNN, FoxNews, NPR, NYT, BBC, Reuters, AP, as well as other online sources. I would think that if Hamilton is to be critiqued, it should be from personal knowledge, not just what someone has said (even if it is Toni Morrison). I think if the BLM movement has taught us anything, it's that we need to educate ourselves, not just rely on others to explain it to us. You may find the even the most respected person may or may not have the same perspective you do. I’m not sure I understand what you are saying? We shouldn’t be basing our dislike of Hamilton off the criticism of a literary great? Even the author of the article acknowledges the opinion is what made her research and find out more. |
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Post by Sarah*H on Jul 5, 2020 18:07:49 GMT
The musical does NOT make Hamilton out to be a good person. I agree with some of the critiques I have read. I disagree with some of them. I also think it's a musical telling a story loosely based on Ron Chernow's book, it is not a historical treatise in and of itself and does not pretend to be historically accurate. His wife is called by an entirely different name than she went by as just one small example. The backstory of the Schuyler family is completely different. Hamilton's own personal childhood history is different. But if anyone is going to write an accurate critique of the show, they should at least understand that LMM did not write the character of Alexander Hamilton to be the hero of the story.
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