So, who else does not really like "Hamilton"?

This is interesting. But I've clearly got to dig further. Because I want to understand why she felt Hamilton harms black people. I need to know more than just this article. Because I came away from Hamilton (I saw it in the theater last year) feeling like it was just meh. It wasn't the music (I happen to like rap) but it was the whole story overall. And I thought to myself that maybe I would rewatch on Disney + with the closed captions to get a better sense of the dialogue. Now I want to learn a bit more about Toni Morrison's perspective and then view it again. Look at it more critically if you will. I guess what I'm saying is I want to know if there are specific ways and things about Hamilton that are actively harmful to black people or if the perspective is that showing our founding fathers in musical form for the purposes of entertainment is the overall offense simply because they subjugated black people at that time which of course is offensive, but it is also a fact. And then I want to know if we want people to simply know the facts and have the relevant discussions or if we are seeking to not entertain people with history altogether because our historical figures engaged in some dirty behavior.

I am wondering Olan if you have more links about this. I'm going to Google but seeing as how you added this here I am curious if you can direct me to understanding your perspective better.

And I hope I have not been offensive. I'm trying to sort this all out in my own mind

Can’t lie, I’m kinda crushing on you a little bit right now. 😂

Yes I thought nobody came off looking very good. It showed pretty much everyone’s warts.

Almost every time the John Laurens character was on stage he was very vocal about slavery and black rights. Watching last night, I wondered what might be different today had he not been killed.

I live in a large city, but have a stucco house. The mesh in the stucco interferes badly with the OTA antenna reception. Even putting it on a window.

An external antenna would probably help, but it’s more work than I want, lol.

I was going to post this same thread. I tried but it just didn't hit for me. I'm sure it's something wrong with me. 

I am not into theater at all — musicals or plays. Last musical I saw was when my MIL took us to see Mamma Mia and I was so happy when it was over...except it was NOT over. It was just intermission. You should’ve seen my disappointment lol.

But since this was on Disney+, we thought why not.

It was ok. Some of the songs are ok. It was easy to just have on in the background, honestly.

I do like rap, but I felt like there wasn’t much rap in it. Just a few songs. Most everything isn’t rap at all.

This. I get 47 on mine. I only watch 4 with any regularity though. The rest tend to be, for the most part, a little...obscure.

It's not Disney.  Disney simply won the bidding war on the recorded version of the Broadway play.  Lots of studios had the chance at the same rights.  That's all.

Kids like it because of the music genre.  It's something they relate to.

It took us two sittings, because apparently my attention span for musicals is low, but we enjoyed it. The Eurovision film with Will Ferrell was better, though

My response to that is there are a lot of things I am drawn to and really love, but I know my friends and family probably wouldn’t be interested in those same things and that is perfectly fine. I’m not going to insist they try something that they are not interested in just because I happen to love it and feel it is worthwhile.

For example, one of my passions in life is big thick biographies about figures in American history. I just love starting a biography and knowing that it is going to take me at least a month to finish it, even if I read a couple of hours each day. I’ve read almost every biography Doris Goodwin, David McCullough and Ron Chernow have written. I read Ron Chernow’s biography of Hamilton long before it became a musical. However, I liked his biography of Ulysses S. Grant the best. 

Most people don’t enjoy reading biographies and I’m not going to try and insist they do, just because it’s something I enjoy.  We all have different tastes.

I am pretty open minded and like to try new things, but I don’t like rap music, so I had no interest in shelling out a bunch of money to go see Hamilton when it came to my state. Plus my hearing is not that great and I’ve heard it’s really hard to catch all the lyrics and I think I would be frustrated if I missed a lot of the dialogue. 

I’m going to add Disney to my cable package, so if Hamilton airs while I have some free time, I’ll probably sit down and watch it. Maybe I’ll change my mind about it and maybe I won’t. There are a lot of great movies, plays and musicals I’ve never seen and classic books I’ve never read. There is just so much time in the day and in general I’d rather spend my time doing the things I’m naturally drawn to, rather than watching a musical I’m not really interested in just because it’s widely popular.

Correct. The bonus to that is that you aren’t dependent on specified air times: you can start it and watch it whenever you have free time, including stopping and picking it back up at another time. 

I don't think that LMM intended to make anyone in the cast a good person. Rather I felt he was pointing out that they were just men, with some good ideas and plans, and some bad ideas, plans and actions. That was a lot of the appeal of the play. When I learned AMerican History, back in the Dark Ages, there was no explanation of the connection between all these early Politicians. I enjoyed seeing the competition and resentments, and the synergy between the men.

That said, I have seen the play 3 times, with three different casts, including the original. And I enjoyed the Disney version. And there is only pne song that is vaguely rap. It is more hip hop and ballad.

Highly recommend this route for you. It will be so much more enjoyable with the CC. It still moves fast, tho! I watched it again last night, and was able to watch the actors a little more since I already mostly knew the dialogue. That is another bonus of the Disney Plus version!
It doesn’t ruin the live performance option though.

I liked it but didn't love it. It led me to alot of google searches for history lessons I didn't know or didn't remember. We also turned on the closed captioning so we could figure out what was going on. I'm not usually a rap fan but I liked it in this format.