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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 11, 2020 13:29:03 GMT
Just quoting this because I’m sure it’s going to disappear! How much does someone want to bet that this is not really ZH, but an just created ID by buttons/Lara to feed drama. Kind of like the made up emails supposedly from Mario & Tim? Hello friend of Zoe's!! If that was a fake ID created by me to feed drama then why would I delete it? Why would you need to post it again? YOU ARE GASLIGHTING!! Trying to move away from the fact that Zoe Hillman just stated ALL LIVES MATTER by claiming it's false. Very clever of the 2 of you to concoct this. Now if any person posts proof of Zoe saying ALL LIVES MATTER then you can claim it was me or me as Lara! GROW UP and get yourself checked, your privilege is showing Karen!!! I don’t know ZH. But you think you do. With each post you make, it’s crystal clear that You are really deranged and just making up lies as you go. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 11, 2020 13:31:04 GMT
You are an awful human being. You are doing exactly what you’re trying to disparage TH with. You post screams fat shaming towards another woman. It’s really clear from your posting that you have unhealthy obsessions with ZH and TH. You’re out to hurt ZH. Thank you! Lara is a disgusting human being and she has been obsessed with us all for years!!! Lara whines on about BLM and she isn't even Black!!! She needs to get back in her lane and shut her fucking trap because no one fucking cares!! ALL LIVES MATTER maybe with a few exceptions LOLZ XOXO Keeping up with the fake ZH I see. Sorry, don’t be quoting me or thinking I’m siding with the troll who created this obviously fake ID. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 11, 2020 13:31:52 GMT
Buttons, for your own health, I think you should walk away from this crusade and put your energy elsewhere. At the end of the day, black lives don't matter to him. Racism is legal. Being an ass is legal. This is going to exhaust you. There are ways you can make a difference, but this isn't one of them. You're the only one getting hurt. TH is going to continue to do whatever tf he wants. He's a smarmy salesman who's always going to have his fan girls. He will continue to use people, and people will want to try to use him because of who he is in the industry. There won't be a boycott. Nothing will change. It's perverse, it's wrong, and still nothing will change. You have a strong voice and an important message, but your energy is wasted trying to force him to allow affirmative art by POC to be posted on his platform. He won't change unless his conscience tells him to, and that might never happen. Let it go. Thank you for your words of wisdom. You have been very fair and kind. Perhaps my delivery was all wrong and I am so upset that people do not believe me. I can do nothing to change this and I think the man that I looked up to and adored is actually a racist or at least unwilling to stop racism. I feel so confused because the pass the brush initiative made me believe he cared and when he posted his support on social media for BLM I was fooled. Now that Zoe and her following have arrived I have no choice but to let it go. I hope Tim fires her and others see what a mean, evil bitch she is. I will never buy another thing with his name on. EVER!!! You are lying right here on this thread. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 11, 2020 13:32:43 GMT
Buttons, for your own health, I think you should walk away from this crusade and put your energy elsewhere. At the end of the day, black lives don't matter to him. Racism is legal. Being an ass is legal. This is going to exhaust you. There are ways you can make a difference, but this isn't one of them. You're the only one getting hurt. TH is going to continue to do whatever tf he wants. He's a smarmy salesman who's always going to have his fan girls. He will continue to use people, and people will want to try to use him because of who he is in the industry. There won't be a boycott. Nothing will change. It's perverse, it's wrong, and still nothing will change. You have a strong voice and an important message, but your energy is wasted trying to force him to allow affirmative art by POC to be posted on his platform. He won't change unless his conscience tells him to, and that might never happen. Let it go. Thank you for your words of wisdom. You have been very fair and kind. Perhaps my delivery was all wrong and I am so upset that people do not believe me. I can do nothing to change this and I think the man that I looked up to and adored is actually a racist or at least unwilling to stop racism. I feel so confused because the pass the brush initiative made me believe he cared and when he posted his support on social media for BLM I was fooled. Now that Zoe and her following have arrived I have no choice but to let it go. I hope Tim fires her and others see what a mean, evil bitch she is. I will never buy another thing with his name on. EVER!!! You are extremely obsessed with ZH. |
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Post by mcjunkin on Aug 11, 2020 13:33:01 GMT
Thank you for your words of wisdom. You have been very fair and kind. Perhaps my delivery was all wrong and I am so upset that people do not believe me. I can do nothing to change this and I think the man that I looked up to and adored is actually a racist or at least unwilling to stop racism. I feel so confused because the pass the brush initiative made me believe he cared and when he posted his support on social media for BLM I was fooled. Now that Zoe and her following have arrived I have no choice but to let it go. I hope Tim fires her and others see what a mean, evil bitch she is. I will never buy another thing with his name on. EVER!!! In a previous post you said his participation in Pass the Brush made you sick. Which is it? And am I the only one who thinks "igirlzoe"'s arrival is a little too convenient? Come on. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 14:01:59 GMT
Okay so I follow Zoe and in the last 24 hours she has not deleted any of her Stories. She has also not deleted any posts.
And yeah, I let the team know about the shit going down here because holy crap these trolls need to stop.
Yes! There are systemic issues. Yes! We need to have open dialogue about it. Yes! We need to make positive, life long changes.
BUT coming here, trolling, starting shit, spreading rumors, and not backing up your claims is NOT going to help anyone.
Buttons/igirlzoe step away and just stop! Gawd.
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 11, 2020 15:00:33 GMT
Okay so I follow Zoe and in the last 24 hours she has not deleted any of her Stories. She has also not deleted any posts. And yeah, I let the team know about the shit going down here because holy crap these trolls need to stop. Yes! There are systemic issues. Yes! We need to have open dialogue about it. Yes! We need to make positive, life long changes. BUT coming here, trolling, starting shit, spreading rumors, and not backing up your claims is NOT going to help anyone. Buttons/igirlzoe step away and just stop! Gawd. I don’t think anyone here believes that is really Zoe posting. I don’t know her at all and never heard of her until the drama started, but I think it is pretty obvious it is someone pretending to be her to keep this thread going. I think the best thing to do is just stop responding and posting on this thread. Nothing is going to make the op share her supposed evidence, most of this thread is flat out nonsense and no good is going to come from continuing to post to it. Like the proverbial child saying, “Mom, mom, mom, mom, mom” if you ignore them they will finally give up and find something better to do. |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 11, 2020 16:09:22 GMT
Just 'cause I can't believe nobody has posted this gif yet...  And i'm back outta here. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 16:21:13 GMT
Awwhhh thanks sleepingbooty, I might need to binge watch HP ...do you think CP will be bringing out a new Halloween line this year? Those pumpkins have got me thinking ahead to fall |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 11, 2020 16:40:27 GMT
Awwhhh thanks sleepingbooty , I might need to binge watch HP ...do you think CP will be bringing out a new Halloween line this year? Those pumpkins have got me thinking ahead to fall Starting the HP marathon in September here! Great minds, etc.  No new line from CP this year. They are re-releasing Hey Pumpkin in full due to its popularity. Pebbles is the AC brand that gets a brand new Halloween line every year and I've got to say that the adorable monsters and Dracula in their 2020 Spoooky line has me thinking of doing an October Daily album just to keep me busy while pandemic life continues... Here's Spoooky: |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 17:18:58 GMT
Awwhhh thanks sleepingbooty , I might need to binge watch HP ...do you think CP will be bringing out a new Halloween line this year? Those pumpkins have got me thinking ahead to fall Starting the HP marathon in September here! Great minds, etc. No new line from CP this year. They are re-releasing Hey Pumpkin in full due to its popularity. Pebbles is the AC brand that gets a brand new Halloween line every year and I've got to say that the adorable monsters and Dracula in their 2020 Spoooky line has me thinking of doing an October Daily album just to keep me busy while pandemic life continues... Here's Spoooky: I was thinking of doing an October Daily too. Also thinking of doing something special for DDs senior year... Any leads on inspiration for daily albums? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 17:33:14 GMT
Oohhhh I like the Pebbles line, thanks for sharing @sunnycamom this isn't an October daily but Melissa did a mini album for Halloween www.instagram.com/melissamorrelli/She has flip throughs in her IG stories , I don't see the 2019 album in her IG stories but you can still see some pages in her posts I think some other folks did an Oct daily last year, I'll see if I can find some other posts for you |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 11, 2020 17:34:26 GMT
I was thinking of doing an October Daily too. Also thinking of doing something special for DDs senior year... Any leads on inspiration for daily albums? Do you mean prompt-wise or actual finished OD albums? For prompts, anything goes for October Daily. Most participants love the spooky and kooky aesthetic so they're happy to just document whatever thing stands out, no matter how small, for that day. If I participate this year, I plan on documenting all things baking and cooking with the seasonal change, switching out the wardrobe for the cooler season, changing up the décor, all the movies we'll watch for Halloween season, how the pandemic is affecting our everyday life at that stage, walks outside in the changing scenery, the drop in temperatures and change in the weather, etc. For albums, the Serena Bee gang + others have several flip-throughs on YT: |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 17:41:35 GMT
Thank you both!
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Post by craftgranny on Aug 11, 2020 18:31:33 GMT
There’s nothing there. So what if Tim shows samples using his brand. He’s allowed to do that. Your posts are literally almost word for word what Lara lied about. Who are these “many people” who are disgusted? Do you see them??? I only ask because everything you’ve posted above so far does not exist. Not in the Facebook group, not on ZH Instagram. So you’re either lying, or you’re lying to stir ip shit. It sounds like you gave a bone over Zoe—are you jealous or something? Why are you coming after me? Is posting mocking memes and accusing me of being Lara more important to you than racism within the craft industry? You need to check your compass woman!! The list of people who are disgusted is long and starts with some really big designers and influencers in the craft industry, including Jennifer McGuire, Annette Green from Graphic 45, Jess Madaglia who was on Tim's design team and was a moderator his group and Jenny Marples who was on Tim's design team, made bespoke pieces for him and sent him pieces that he requested after seeing them on her blog and was a co founder and co admin of his group and believed she was a close personal friend of his. These women have all been cast aside and bullied by Tim Holtz along with some other smaller less known crafters such Wendy Baysa another moderator for the group and former design team member. The fact that he allows racism within his brand shows the type of person he is, a disgusting one!!! Jealous of Zoe! NO!! Why would I be jealous of her? She has no talent and she runs Tim's cult, also believing she is close personal friends of Tim and actually he doesn't like her half as much as she likes to think he does. He's a phony! She is gullible. They are both disgusting!!! You are calling me a liar and that nothing I have said is verifiable but I told you that Tim was contacted and asked not to show Zoe's samples during the Facebook Live until he had investigated the claims of racism. He agreed. Therefore he must believe there is the possibility of a problem or knows there is one and needed to protect his precious Facebook Live product launch. Whichever it was, he did not show Zoe's samples and then slipped one into his blog post between all the others that were shown. I AM NOT A LIAR! That's your privilege talking!! Yes they know but their cult followers do not. Did you see the video Lara posted in a hysterical state because the Tim Holtz fans had gone after her. It was terrifying. I understand what you are saying and why you would cry foul. I have answered your other comment in my previous comment to another pea. |
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Post by karinec on Aug 11, 2020 18:52:18 GMT
I was thinking of doing an October Daily too. Also thinking of doing something special for DDs senior year... Any leads on inspiration for daily albums? Do you mean prompt-wise or actual finished OD albums? For prompts, anything goes for October Daily. Most participants love the spooky and kooky aesthetic so they're happy to just document whatever thing stands out, no matter how small, for that day. If I participate this year, I plan on documenting all things baking and cooking with the seasonal change, switching out the wardrobe for the cooler season, changing up the décor, all the movies we'll watch for Halloween season, how the pandemic is affecting our everyday life at that stage, walks outside in the changing scenery, the drop in temperatures and change in the weather, etc. For albums, the Serena Bee gang + others have several flip-throughs on YT: Ooooh, you got me thinking about an OD. I like that idea! |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 11, 2020 19:08:10 GMT
Ooooh, you got me thinking about an OD. I like that idea! This might be the year OD makes it to 2PR!  |
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Post by Elsabelle on Aug 11, 2020 19:12:04 GMT
Ooooh, you got me thinking about an OD. I like that idea! This might be the year OD makes it to 2PR! Yes! I always wanted to do a fall themed album. The food, clothes, weather, foliage, family traditions, and decor. I don’t imagine life going back to “normal” by then so I’ll have plenty of time. And I have plenty of fall themed supplies. |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 11, 2020 19:21:50 GMT
This might be the year OD makes it to 2PR! Yes! I always wanted to do a fall themed album. The food, clothes, weather, foliage, family traditions, and decor. I don’t imagine life going back to “normal” by then so I’ll have plenty of time. And I have plenty of fall themed supplies. Yay, the October album gang is in the house! I agree that this is a wonderful way to spend the upcoming pandemic autumn... A mug of hot tea, a special Halloween treat and ALL the paper to use up. This discussion makes me want to snuggle up in front of the electric fan (ugh, so hot this week) with a bowl of pumpkin, carrot and coconut soup to watch It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 19:25:49 GMT
Yes! I always wanted to do a fall themed album. The food, clothes, weather, foliage, family traditions, and decor. I don’t imagine life going back to “normal” by then so I’ll have plenty of time. And I have plenty of fall themed supplies. Yay, the October album gang is in the house! I agree that this is a wonderful way to spend the upcoming pandemic autumn... A mug of hot tea, a special Halloween treat and ALL the paper to use up. This discussion makes me want to snuggle up in front of the electric fan (ugh, so hot this week) with a bowl of pumpkin, carrot and coconut soup to watch It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown. We watch 'It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown' all the time in October. I have this scene as my phone photo for fall 😁 |
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Post by quietgirl on Aug 11, 2020 19:30:40 GMT
I love ALL the Charlie Brown's!!!! My favorite is Snoopy, but I really, really like Woodstock, too!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 19:46:58 GMT
I forgot to welcome you to the board, @buttons , so welcome. I'm sure you'll understand that the post-Lara Peas are going to be doubting your story, not because we worship Tim and crew, but because you have no evidence that this ever happened. Not that racism never happens, but you're accusing specific people with no proof. And if you did have screenshots, we'd still doubt that too at this point (because of Lara.) I'm thinking that the only way to prove systemic racism (there) to me (here) would be for established Peas to create BLM projects to post there, and then see what happens. I don't own TH products. Anyone want to volunteer? I would volunteer to do that, but Zoe Hillman has blocked me from the group already  |
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Post by mom on Aug 11, 2020 19:55:28 GMT
I forgot to welcome you to the board, @buttons , so welcome. I'm sure you'll understand that the post-Lara Peas are going to be doubting your story, not because we worship Tim and crew, but because you have no evidence that this ever happened. Not that racism never happens, but you're accusing specific people with no proof. And if you did have screenshots, we'd still doubt that too at this point (because of Lara.) I'm thinking that the only way to prove systemic racism (there) to me (here) would be for established Peas to create BLM projects to post there, and then see what happens. I don't own TH products. Anyone want to volunteer? I would volunteer to do that, but Zoe Hillman has blocked me from the group already Why would you get blocked? This thread? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 20:02:10 GMT
I would volunteer to do that, but Zoe Hillman has blocked me from the group already Why would you get blocked? This thread? No...I questioned something in the TH Addict group last year and was removed and then publicly shamed for my question (was told this by friends who were still in the group).
No worries, many other places to visit on the internet then that group.
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Post by mom on Aug 11, 2020 20:03:49 GMT
Why would you get blocked? This thread? No...I questioned something in the TH Addict group last year and was removed and then publicly shamed for my question (was told this by friends who were still in the group).
No worries, many other places to visit on the internet then that group.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 20:04:26 GMT
No...I questioned something in the TH Addict group last year and was removed and then publicly shamed for my question (was told this by friends who were still in the group).
No worries, many other places to visit on the internet then that group.
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Post by msliz on Aug 11, 2020 20:06:30 GMT
Why would you get blocked? This thread? No...I questioned something in the TH Addict group last year and was removed and then publicly shamed for my question (was told this by friends who were still in the group).
No worries, many other places to visit on the internet then that group.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 11, 2020 20:33:03 GMT
And I cry foul on you being afraid of outing yourself. The fact that you told us you contacted Zoe, and then Mario threatened you, if true, tells Tim’s team exactly who you are. Yes they know but their cult followers do not. Did you see the video Lara posted in a hysterical state because the Tim Holtz fans had gone after her. It was terrifying. I understand what you are saying and why you would cry foul. I have answered your other comment in my previous comment to another pea. It’s not that we don’t believe you, it’s that, without something to refer to what exactly would we email/DM Tim & co about? |
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Post by quinmm14 on Aug 11, 2020 22:36:27 GMT
Well that kinda went off the rails.
But, I'm a yes to an October daily album, so there's that. 😁
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 11, 2020 22:53:49 GMT
Yes! I always wanted to do a fall themed album. The food, clothes, weather, foliage, family traditions, and decor. I don’t imagine life going back to “normal” by then so I’ll have plenty of time. And I have plenty of fall themed supplies. Yay, the October album gang is in the house! I agree that this is a wonderful way to spend the upcoming pandemic autumn... A mug of hot tea, a special Halloween treat and ALL the paper to use up. This discussion makes me want to snuggle up in front of the electric fan (ugh, so hot this week) with a bowl of pumpkin, carrot and coconut soup to watch It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown. SIGN ME UP!!! Since we won’t likely get to do the normal round of Halloween activities (pumpkin patches, all night horrorthons at our local theater, special dinners out for our anniversary , etc) I will be doing my own things at home. And since I will still be unemployed I will have plenty of time to make worm pasta with eyeball meatballs, brain jello molds, graveyard cake, chocolate coffins filled with mousse, etc. I will have evenings free to watch a variety of spooky movies and Halloween specials and time to finally photograph parts of my NBC collection. It will also be a lovely way to use my prodigious amounts of Halloween scrap supplies. |
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