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Post by gar on Feb 20, 2021 18:33:04 GMT
I think they just said on the news that he didn't have visitors when he was in during Dec 19 and they are very "No fuss" aren't they which is mainly what makes me wonder...although yes, they're unlikely to have seen each other much recently due to Covid. Much was made of the fact that Charles had come up from Gloucestershire and also that the visit was in breach of the very strict hospital rules. He only stayed half an hour apparently. Part of me thinks if he had taken a turn for the worse that Prince Charles' arrival would have been more " secret". His arrival was quite public it seems. Yes, that does seem likely. |
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Post by pjaye on Feb 20, 2021 21:44:23 GMT
I wonder if he had a more severe reaction to the second dose of vaccine? Pure speculation on my part. They have said publicly that his admission was "not covid related" and I assume that would cover vaccine reactions...because they could have just said nothing about the reason at all. I do think him being in there this long is a bit worrying, he must need some sort of supportive care that they can't provide for him at home. ETA: I just read that Charles' visit was a 200km round trip. That makes it seem like more than just an ordinary hospital visit, maybe Prince Philip asked to see him? |
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Post by gillyp on Feb 20, 2021 22:39:03 GMT
After my initial concern at the visit, which on reflection and per posts above, is likely to have been more discreet if Prince Philip had taken a turn for the worse, I wondered if maybe PP wanted an update on the Harry situation from someone who would probably have knowledge second only to the Queen? Possibly wanting to know how she is bearing up?
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Post by lisacharlotte on Feb 20, 2021 22:52:45 GMT
Instagram had photos of Charles leaving the hospital and he is very teary eyed. I don't think it's good news.
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Post by gar on Feb 20, 2021 23:22:28 GMT
Instagram had photos of Charles leaving the hospital and he is very teary eyed. I don't think it's good news. Which account? |
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Post by gillyp on Feb 20, 2021 23:26:07 GMT
Instagram had photos of Charles leaving the hospital and he is very teary eyed. I don't think it's good news. Which account? The photo on the news was the same but I’ve just put the news back on and there’s no change to the official line. |
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Post by gar on Feb 20, 2021 23:29:17 GMT
The photo on the news was the same but I’ve just put the news back on and there’s no change to the official line. I found the picture that was probably the one. I’m in 2 minds - On one hand, they wouldn’t change the official line until there’s something definitive to say. On the other hand he walked in unaided a few days ago so can he really be that ill? When his time comes we won’t know until a few days afterwards anyway as I understand it. |
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Post by AussieMeg on Feb 20, 2021 23:38:36 GMT
Oh no, that doesn't sounds good. I hope that he is okay. He needs to make it to 100 so he can get a birthday card from the Queen!  I'm not British, but from a Commonwealth country, so the Queen is also 'my' Queen. She became Queen in 1952, so for very many people, she is the only monarch of our lifetime - yes, she has 'always been there'; on our stamps for a long time, on our money etc. It will be a huge change when she goes. Even just the thought of having a King, instead of a Queen is weird for me. Yes it will be very strange when the time comes for Charles to become King. She's been the Queen all my life. In fact, she's been the Queen since my mum was 4yo, so she's the only Monarch mum has really known as well. |
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Post by gillyp on Feb 20, 2021 23:42:53 GMT
The photo on the news was the same but I’ve just put the news back on and there’s no change to the official line. I found the picture that was probably the one. I’m in 2 minds - On one hand, they wouldn’t change the official line until there’s something definitive to say. On the other hand he walked in unaided a few days ago so can he really be that ill? When his time comes we won’t know until a few days afterwards anyway as I understand it. I don’t know what the protocol is for making an announcement in such circumstances. It might sound silly but I’m not ready for the Queen to lose her Prince. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 0:10:23 GMT
The photo on the news was the same but I’ve just put the news back on and there’s no change to the official line. I found the picture that was probably the one. I’m in 2 minds - On one hand, they wouldn’t change the official line until there’s something definitive to say. On the other hand he walked in unaided a few days ago so can he really be that ill? When his time comes we won’t know until a few days afterwards anyway as I understand it. Really? I’m going from memory now. From what I can remember they announced the Queen Mother’s death sooner than that. Same with Princess Diana, that was announced very early the morning after she died during the night. I can’t imagine that they would be able to keep it from the public for more than a few hours at the most. Someone at that hospital would talk. |
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Post by Zee on Feb 21, 2021 0:15:09 GMT
He seems like kind of an old bastard from what I've read but I hope he's ok. I enjoy following the royal family, ever since I was a little girl smitten with "Lady Di".
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Post by RosieKat on Feb 21, 2021 0:21:42 GMT
It might sound silly but I’m not ready for the Queen to lose her Prince. No, I agree. Whatever the specifics of their relationship, I think they have a strong partnership and they do need each other. |
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Post by pjaye on Feb 21, 2021 0:36:36 GMT
On the other hand he walked in unaided a few days ago so can he really be that ill? Yes. I can't tell you the number of times I've seen people admitted looking not too bad and have them deteriorate quickly, with family members saying things like "she was driving herself around just 2 days ago". Once you get over 90 things can change very rapidly without much warning. |
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Post by gar on Feb 21, 2021 9:40:47 GMT
On the other hand he walked in unaided a few days ago so can he really be that ill? Yes. I can't tell you the number of times I've seen people admitted looking not too bad and have them deteriorate quickly, with family members saying things like "she was driving herself around just 2 days ago". Once you get over 90 things can change very rapidly without much warning. I guess so but gillyp, I agree I would hate to see her lose him. He's no doubt a forthright, straight talking man, probably a bit cantankerous in his old age but there's no doubt he's been her absolute rock all their life together. @dottyscrapper, Diana's death was different, there was no hiding that but as far as the Queen Mum, we only know what we're told as to when she died. I can't remember now where I read/heard the idea but it was to do with the need for planning the funeral etc but I could be wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 10:29:19 GMT
Yes. I can't tell you the number of times I've seen people admitted looking not too bad and have them deteriorate quickly, with family members saying things like "she was driving herself around just 2 days ago". Once you get over 90 things can change very rapidly without much warning. I guess so but gillyp , I agree I would hate to see her lose him. He's no doubt a forthright, straight talking man, probably a bit cantankerous in his old age but there's no doubt he's been her absolute rock all their life together. @dottyscrapper , Diana's death was different, there was no hiding that but as far as the Queen Mum, we only know what we're told as to when she died. I can't remember now where I read/heard the idea but it was to do with the need for planning the funeral etc but I could be wrong. I thought their funerals have already been planned down to the last detail. ( not that the Duke would get that kind of funeral if anything happened to him during this pandemic) There was a programme once about it all. They held a rehearsal in London for her funeral about 7 years before she died, now that is morbid having to watch your own funeral. I can't remember the details but I do remember that we were at a wedding when the news came through. One of the waiters told some of us. |
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Post by craftykitten on Feb 21, 2021 10:30:38 GMT
gar the funeral will have been planned years ago. I read this interesting article, which mostly talks about the preparations for the death of the Queen, but there will be a plan for Prince Philip too. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridgeHis 'code name' is Forth Bridge. No doubt all the plans were updated for coronavirus, or maybe not? The Queen and Prince Philip are the same age as my grandparents would have been, they were in fact married in the same year, which I think is why I feel an...attachment? To them. Not quite the right word. But it's definitely why I see them as an elderly couple who have spent a lifetime together, rather than royal figures. Obviously I hope he surprises us all and recovers 
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Post by gar on Feb 21, 2021 10:41:34 GMT
Yes, London Bridge/codes etc, it's all planned, but things would still have to be activated and actually put into action - although it would obviously be rather different at the moment! Maybe I'm wrong  |
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Post by gillyp on Feb 21, 2021 10:42:30 GMT
I’ve not opened the link yet but my understanding is that funerals are planned in advance as are news reports and journalings so all that needs to be updated by reporters and newscasters are details around the actual death.
Of course, Charles probably hasn’t seen his father in person for about a year and the shock at seeing him more frail would no doubt upset him. I remember seeing family members I’d not been with for a few years and wondering if I looked as old to them as they were looking to me!
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Post by craftykitten on Feb 21, 2021 11:16:14 GMT
Yes, London Bridge/codes etc, it's all planned, but things would still have to be activated and actually put into action - although it would obviously be rather different at the moment! Maybe I'm wrong It's weird, isn't it. Couldn't really do a state funeral on zoom. I'd put actual money on them having a plan, though. I don't mean to be flippant, truly. Just had quite a few deaths in my online circles the last couple of weeks and it's all a bit much to cope with. I feel weirdly anxious about Prince Philip but I think its just a reflection of what's been going on. |
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Post by sueg on Feb 21, 2021 11:20:59 GMT
I feel weirdly anxious about Prince Philip but I think its just a reflection of what's been going on. I am sure it is. The Queen and Prince Phillip have been in our world view for so long (in my case, my entire life), so are a symbol of stability in many ways. In these very uncertain times, to have such a symbol taken away is very unsettling. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 11:31:47 GMT
I feel weirdly anxious about Prince Philip but I think its just a reflection of what's been going on. I am sure it is. The Queen and Prince Phillip have been in our world view for so long (in my case, my entire life), so are a symbol of stability in many ways. In these very uncertain times, to have such a symbol taken away is very unsettling. I agree. Anyone under the age of early 70's have not known anything different. They've always been there as a couple. I know he's had his gaffe's in the past but he's served this country and the commonwealth impeccably. I feel for the Queen, it's a very long time to be together. It's been quite strange seeing her on her own since he's retired from public life. I'm hoping that he'll recover well enough to at least go home and celebrate his 100th birthday. |
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Post by gar on Feb 21, 2021 11:41:51 GMT
Yes, London Bridge/codes etc, it's all planned, but things would still have to be activated and actually put into action - although it would obviously be rather different at the moment! Maybe I'm wrong It's weird, isn't it. Couldn't really do a state funeral on zoom. I'd put actual money on them having a plan, though. I don't mean to be flippant, truly. Just had quite a few deaths in my online circles the last couple of weeks and it's all a bit much to cope with. I feel weirdly anxious about Prince Philip but I think its just a reflection of what's been going on. Oh I’m sure they have a Covid plan in place too. I agree - it would be sadly symbolic if he should pass away now 😔 Let’s hope we’re all reading too much into it and he’s home soon 😊 ETA - I think it would be a great shame if it should happen now and he wasn’t able to have a full state funeral. |
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Post by gillyp on Feb 21, 2021 12:43:42 GMT
It's weird, isn't it. Couldn't really do a state funeral on zoom. I'd put actual money on them having a plan, though. I don't mean to be flippant, truly. Just had quite a few deaths in my online circles the last couple of weeks and it's all a bit much to cope with. I feel weirdly anxious about Prince Philip but I think its just a reflection of what's been going on. Oh I’m sure they have a Covid plan in place too. I agree - it would be sadly symbolic if he should pass away now 😔 Let’s hope we’re all reading too much into it and he’s home soon 😊 ETA - I think it would be a great shame if it should happen now and he wasn’t able to have a full state funeral. Totally agree gar. If anyone deserves a full State funeral, he does. Let’s hope this hospital stay is, indeed, just a precaution and he will be with us a little while longer. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 12:50:36 GMT
i can understand that people will feel sad to lose him
it is the loss of a generation in their 90’s . It is unsettling because they have a been around for a long time , and that was comforting.
We lost a lovely neighbour recently not far from that age , he was such a kind , thoughtful and nice gentleman.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Feb 21, 2021 16:40:27 GMT
Yes, funerals are planned in advance. When Diana died they modified the plans they had in place for the Queen Mum’s funeral.
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Post by gar on Feb 22, 2021 13:32:51 GMT
William has said that Prince Philip is ‘OK’ in hospital and that they are keeping an eye on him. Not sure that sounds terribly convincing but I let’s hope he’s improving.
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Post by gar on Feb 23, 2021 16:31:44 GMT
The latest update is that he is responding to treatment for an infection and is expected to remain in hospital for several more days. Prince Edward apparently said he was feeling much better too. BBC |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 12:52:38 GMT
It seems he's not doing as well as expected. They've now transferred him to Barts hospital. I'm guessing his heart is giving him problems going by the report given out a short while ago.
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Post by gar on Mar 1, 2021 12:56:35 GMT
It seems he's not doing as well as expected. They've now transferred him to Barts hospital. I'm guessing his heart is giving him problems going by the report given out a short while ago. Uh oh 🙁 I haven’t seen that report Dotty. Actually I woke up this morning thinking that we hadn’t heard anything for a few days. ETA - I’ve seen it now. I don’t think I knew he had a pre existing heart condition. I hope he’s ok. What do you make of the picture of someone being hidden from the cameras by the umbrellas- odd! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 13:10:58 GMT
It seems he's not doing as well as expected. They've now transferred him to Barts hospital. I'm guessing his heart is giving him problems going by the report given out a short while ago. Uh oh 🙁 I haven’t seen that report Dotty. Actually I woke up this morning thinking that we hadn’t heard anything for a few days. ETA - I’ve seen it now. I don’t think I knew he had a pre existing heart condition. I hope he’s ok. What do you make of the picture of someone being hidden from the cameras by the umbrellas- odd! Haven't seen the umbrellas photos but the video that is up on the Evening Standards webpage as he left the King Edward's is awful- all those cameras!! That the heck is wrong with these people, I know it's their job but good lord they should have a level of respect , not just for him but to everyone that would be in the same position, the man is ill for goodness sake. Have they no shame? |
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