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Post by gar on Mar 2, 2021 9:25:49 GMT
One more thing if he was not who he is do you really think they would transfer him at his age for more treatment in another hospital , I don’t think so . All they have said at this stage is that he's being monitored and having tests, actual treatment hasn't been mentioned although obviously we don't know the details. When my father was in a private hospital for a small hernia surgery he had a minor heart attack and they transferred him to an NHS hospital - their facilities and resources are different so it's not that unusual. |
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Post by gillyp on Mar 2, 2021 11:26:23 GMT
I agree with parts of all the recent discussion. The reason I would be particularly sad (saddened, not grief stricken) when PP or The Queen dies is they have figured in my entire life, longer than my parents or grandparents. I’m using figured in a loose sense but they have been the bedrock of being a British citizen. I so enjoyed the news reports yesterday of The Queen on her zoom call to Australia when a statue was unveiled. She looks so well and spoke so clearly. I hope I am in such remarkably good form when I reach her age; when, not if.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 11:38:57 GMT
I so enjoyed the news reports yesterday of The Queen on her zoom call to Australia when a statue was unveiled. She looks so well and spoke so clearly. I hope I am in such remarkably good form when I reach her age; when, not if. She did looked remarkable didn't she and so jovial . |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 15:15:55 GMT
Slightly off topic, but reading through the conversation above with regard to the same care being offered to all, I have to say that has not been my experience at all.
My husband received excellent life saving emergency care when he needed it and they worked miracles , and we will be forever grateful .
but my Mum did not.
I found her in hospital with no water, her legs hanging down from the bed , her private parts on show and nurses laughing !
I asked the consultant to put my mum on a drip as she was unable to keep food down, he replied ‘ why should I ? ‘ and I told him without food or drink that my mum would die . He said ‘ she is 77 , what do you expect, why prolong the inevitable ? ‘
I fought my best but it wasn’t enough. He was basing his so called clinical judgement on age, he did not even have a diagnosis at the time.
After she died I found that the hospital had been on supervision due to excess mortality rates.
both different hospitals , both different consultants , and both experiences that I will never forget.
I know this thread is about Prince Phillip and so wont discuss my family matters further but I could not stay quiet. It just would have felt wrong not to say something.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 4, 2021 12:34:51 GMT
They are now saying he had a "successful procedure" for his pre-existing heart condition.
My guess is a pacemaker.
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Post by gar on Mar 4, 2021 12:52:56 GMT
Yes, hopefully that will do the job and he'll be on the mend now.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Mar 4, 2021 13:09:55 GMT
That’s great news. Wish him well and hope he’s able to leave the hospital soon.
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Post by gramasue on Mar 4, 2021 13:17:37 GMT
Slightly off topic, but reading through the conversation above with regard to the same care being offered to all, I have to say that has not been my experience at all. My husband received excellent life saving emergency care when he needed it and they worked miracles , and we will be forever grateful . but my Mum did not. I found her in hospital with no water, her legs hanging down from the bed , her private parts on show and nurses laughing ! I asked the consultant to put my mum on a drip as she was unable to keep food down, he replied ‘ why should I ? ‘ and I told him without food or drink that my mum would die . He said ‘ she is 77 , what do you expect, why prolong the inevitable ? ‘ I fought my best but it wasn’t enough. He was basing his so called clinical judgement on age, he did not even have a diagnosis at the time. After she died I found that the hospital had been on supervision due to excess mortality rates. both different hospitals , both different consultants , and both experiences that I will never forget. I know this thread is about Prince Phillip and so wont discuss my family matters further but I could not stay quiet. It just would have felt wrong not to say something. I am so sorry, @lettuce, that your Mum had such a terrible experience in hospital. That is despicable treatment! I can't believe that a doctor would consider a woman who is only 77 is not worth saving. I'm getting up to that age myself, and really don't feel that I'm 'old' yet. I guess it depends on the staff and how they feel about human dignity. It's just such a shame that these people had no regard for that. Shame on them. |
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Post by gillyp on Mar 4, 2021 13:24:29 GMT
@ktc I’m not surprised the hospital was under scrutiny; that behaviour is appalling.
Hope PP recovers well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 15:48:35 GMT
Slightly off topic, but reading through the conversation above with regard to the same care being offered to all, I have to say that has not been my experience at all. My husband received excellent life saving emergency care when he needed it and they worked miracles , and we will be forever grateful . but my Mum did not. I found her in hospital with no water, her legs hanging down from the bed , her private parts on show and nurses laughing ! I asked the consultant to put my mum on a drip as she was unable to keep food down, he replied ‘ why should I ? ‘ and I told him without food or drink that my mum would die . He said ‘ she is 77 , what do you expect, why prolong the inevitable ? ‘ I fought my best but it wasn’t enough. He was basing his so called clinical judgement on age, he did not even have a diagnosis at the time. After she died I found that the hospital had been on supervision due to excess mortality rates. both different hospitals , both different consultants , and both experiences that I will never forget. I know this thread is about Prince Phillip and so wont discuss my family matters further but I could not stay quiet. It just would have felt wrong not to say something. Did you not take the matter further? If the hospital was in special measures or not I would have put in a formal complaint. There's no excuse for that treatment. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 16:04:44 GMT
Thank you gramasue
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 16:05:08 GMT
Thank you gillyp
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 16:20:33 GMT
Hi Dottyscrapper
I did formally complain in writing and got whitewash for a reply.
Unfortunately I wasn’t in a position to pursue it further because my Dad needed alot of looking after with losing Mum and I couldn’t cope with battling against the hospital at the same time. So I put all my thoughts and effort into looking after my Dad as best I could until he sadly passed too.
The hospital has been in special measures for a long while and they have just recently been lifted.
it has been reported that alot of staff and whistleblowers have been badly bullied too.
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Post by gar on Mar 4, 2021 18:05:39 GMT
They're saying another stent I think. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 4, 2021 18:39:50 GMT
They're saying another stent I think. Just heard this on our news. Hope he recovers quickly. |
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Post by Zee on Mar 4, 2021 19:32:21 GMT
carhoch , I understand what you said about your Mum but that was between you and her...somehow I find it a little offensive what you’re saying about Prince Philip or were you to say it about any other elderly person. Sorry I offended you that was not my purpose and I mostly took him as an example ,It’s just seems that these days it’s never OK to die anymore and that seems so strange to me . One more thing if he was not who he is do you really think they would transfer him at his age for more treatment in another hospital , I don’t think so . Well, he IS who he is, and by all accounts he's been a healthy active 99 year old. And why not try to make sure he makes it to 100? It's not like they're doing a heart transplant. If it was 99 year old Betty White we'd all feel the same way, here in the US anyway. He still has a right to proper medical care. |
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Post by pjaye on Mar 5, 2021 1:08:54 GMT
They're saying another stent I think. The wording is a bit off for that though, you place stents for blocked coronary arteries and that isn't usually referred to as a "pre-existing heart condition" that would be considered more of an acute condition...chest pain due to a blocked artery, then angiogram & stent. Not saying that it isn't a stent as I think he's had one (more?) before, but it's odd terminology for a medical person to use if that's the case. Whereas rhythm abnormalities, slow, fast or irregular heart rates previously treated with medication would fit better with the terminology used. It just seems to me they've carefully chosen their words to indicate it was a pre-existing condition and in general that terminology wouldn't be used for the sorts of conditions requiring a stent. However maybe they've chosen words that aren't medically accurate in order to dampen down any worry or further speculation that he's more unwell than we are being led to believe. I have been wondering though, that I haven't heard any reports of an official visit by the Queen, do you really think she hasn't seen her sick husband in all this time? Surely they must be finding a way of getting her in there to see him?? You can't be married all this time and when it gets to the end (and even if this particular episode isn't the end, it won't be too far away) and not want to spend time with him? |
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Post by gar on Mar 5, 2021 9:51:03 GMT
I have been wondering though, that I haven't heard any reports of an official visit by the Queen, do you really think she hasn't seen her sick husband in all this time? Surely they must be finding a way of getting her in there to see him?? There hasn't even been hint of her visiting so it would seem not. You get the impression that they're very "stop fussing!" no nonsense people so maybe she's confident that it's not too imminently serious, she's speaking to him, getting all the up to date reports on him and doesn't want to cause the inevitable drama that would ensue if she did visit. I would guess they're using the words 'pre-existing' to reassure people that it's something less urgent. I don't think they're necessarily the words of anyone medical, more PR/press. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 10:12:41 GMT
I have been wondering though, that I haven't heard any reports of an official visit by the Queen, do you really think she hasn't seen her sick husband in all this time? Surely they must be finding a way of getting her in there to see him?? There hasn't even been hint of her visiting so it would seem not. You get the impression that they're very "stop fussing!" no nonsense people so maybe she's confident that it's not too imminently serious, she's speaking to him, getting all the up to date reports on him and doesn't want to cause the inevitable drama that would ensue if she did visit. I would guess they're using the words 'pre-existing' to reassure people that it's something less urgent. I don't think they're necessarily the words of anyone medical, more PR/press. It could very well be another stent. If he has a history of blocked or narrowing coronary arteries, which he obviously has as he's already had a stent procedure in the past, now he needs another for the same problem, then IMO, that would be announced as a procedure for an existing heart condition - the existing being the blocked or narrowed coronary arteries. As for visiting, it was enough of a circus by the media when Prince Charles visited and more so when they moved Prince Phillip to Barts. They wouldn't put the Queen under such risk as things are at the moment. As you say they are not a family for visiting in hospital at the best of times. |
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Post by gar on Mar 5, 2021 13:28:49 GMT
It's reported that he's been moved back to the private hospital now. Presumably that means he's stable and will recover at the King Edward now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 11:37:25 GMT
It was good to hear that he is going home today. May he continue to recover and enjoy more of life. According to reports he walked to the car at the rear of the hospital and was driven away. It must be a relief for the Queen.
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Post by gar on Mar 16, 2021 11:38:47 GMT
He looks very old doesn't he...which he obviously is  but I'm glad he's going home  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 11:49:01 GMT
He looks very old doesn't he...which he obviously is but I'm glad he's going home Yes he does. It must take it's toll on anyone of that age to be in hospital for 4 weeks. |
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Post by gramasue on Mar 16, 2021 11:53:42 GMT
Glad to hear he's on his way home. His expression looks quite pensive.
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Post by gillyp on Mar 16, 2021 11:54:12 GMT
Oh excellent, I'm pleased he's well enough to go to the car himself and to be going home.
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Post by gar on Mar 16, 2021 12:05:04 GMT
Glad to hear he's on his way home. His expression looks quite pensive. He looks a bit alarmed but it was may well have been just a fleeting capture. |
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Post by peano on Mar 16, 2021 12:45:46 GMT
Why is he not wearing a mask?
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Post by pjaye on Mar 16, 2021 12:52:13 GMT
Why is he not wearing a mask? Although we have some ladies from the UK here, I doubt any of them have The Queen on speed dial to be able to ask that question and get an answer for you. However logic would tell me that he's had both of his covid vaccinations by now. |
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Post by peano on Mar 16, 2021 12:59:00 GMT
Why is he not wearing a mask? Although we have some ladies from the UK here, I doubt any of them have The Queen on speed dial to be able to ask that question and get an answer for you. However logic would tell me that he's had both of his covid vaccinations by now. Obviously, a rhetorical question. No vaccine is 100% effective and he seems so frail. As a public representative of the UK, maybe he should set an example. And yes, I'm sure this will lead to hand slapping of "how can you be so cruel and heartless to poor Prince P who's been laid up in the hospital for weeks?" |
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Post by gar on Mar 16, 2021 13:24:38 GMT
Although we have some ladies from the UK here, I doubt any of them have The Queen on speed dial to be able to ask that question and get an answer for you. However logic would tell me that he's had both of his covid vaccinations by now. Obviously, a rhetorical question. No vaccine is 100% effective and he seems so frail. As a public representative of the UK, maybe he should set an example. And yes, I'm sure this will lead to hand slapping of "how can you be so cruel and heartless to poor Prince P who's been laid up in the hospital for weeks?" Not an unreasonable question. I don't know the answer and on the face of it, yes, he probably should have had one. |
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