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Post by pjaye on Mar 16, 2021 13:30:17 GMT
No vaccine is 100% effective and he seems so frail. he is almost 100 years old, he is married to the Queen and he's been in hospital for almost a month, without knowing anything else, I can feel very confident that his medical team have all of that well in hand and would do everything they need to do to make sure he's safe - so I would not only assume he has he had both vaccinations but they have also tested him for antibodies - and if he has those, then yes, he is fully protected and would not need to wear a mask. Plus he's walking out of the hospital and straight into a car, he's not doing a meet & greet with the public and shaking everyone's hand. |
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Post by dewryce on Mar 16, 2021 13:39:01 GMT
Obviously, a rhetorical question. No vaccine is 100% effective and he seems so frail. As a public representative of the UK, maybe he should set an example. And yes, I'm sure this will lead to hand slapping of "how can you be so cruel and heartless to poor Prince P who's been laid up in the hospital for weeks?" Not an unreasonable question. I don't know the answer and on the face of it, yes, he probably should have had one. I agree, the mask isn’t just for him, it’s to protect those he is with. |
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Post by pjaye on Mar 16, 2021 13:48:59 GMT
I agree, the mask isn’t just for him, it’s to protect those he is with From what? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 14:15:08 GMT
Why is he not wearing a mask? I don't know the answer to that no more than anyone else does but by a process of elimination I would guess there is no risk to him. He was escorted to the car by medical staff. The car is a safe heaven for him, both the driver and I'm assuming, the other man is a Royal protection officer, are masked and I have no doubt that both are tested daily. Added to that I would think by now he's also had both his jabs. It's not as if he's coming into contact with any of the public or anyone that would be a medical risk to him. |
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Post by Olan on Mar 16, 2021 14:18:09 GMT
Why is he not wearing a mask? I don't know the answer to that no more than anyone else does but by a process of elimination I would guess there is no risk to him. He was escorted to the car by medical staff. The car is a safe heaven for him, both the driver and I'm assuming, the other man is a Royal protection officer, are masked and I have no doubt that both are tested daily. Added to that I would think by now he's also had both his jabs. It's not as if he's coming into contact with any of the public or anyone that would be a medical risk to him. “I don't know the answer to that no more than anyone else does..” Lovely how now everyone is admitting their limitations. When it was poor Meghan you were an expert whose authority on the issue needed to be respected. You were even offended someone suggest you look at another perspective😏 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 14:19:03 GMT
Not an unreasonable question. I don't know the answer and on the face of it, yes, he probably should have had one. I agree, the mask isn’t just for him, it’s to protect those he is with. If you've been in hospital for four weeks I'm pretty sure he's not got Covid so there's nothing there to protect others from. |
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Post by pinklady on Mar 16, 2021 15:18:42 GMT
I agree, the mask isn’t just for him, it’s to protect those he is with. If you've been in hospital for four weeks I'm pretty sure he's not got Covid so there's nothing there to protect others from. Huh, I'll have to let my nursing director friend know that the HUNDREDS of her nurses that have contracted COVID onsite in the hospital was a fluke. |
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Post by pjaye on Mar 16, 2021 15:32:46 GMT
Huh, I'll have to let my nursing director friend know that the HUNDREDS of her nurses that have contracted COVID onsite in the hospital was a fluke. That doesn't even make sense - unless you are going to claim they had almost 100yo Prince Philip WORKING on the covid ward while he was a patient? Those nurses didn't catch it walking out the back door of a hospital and into a car. They didn't catch it after they were fully vaccinated (and most probably tested for antibodies). Add to that, PP would have had his vital signs taken at the very least once a day, and as he's going home, he obviously doesn't have a fever or any other symptoms of covid (or they wouldn't be discharging him). If he's healthy enough to walk out the door and to be going home - then what infectious disease does he have that others need to be scared of catching?? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 16:02:13 GMT
If you've been in hospital for four weeks I'm pretty sure he's not got Covid so there's nothing there to protect others from. Huh, I'll have to let my nursing director friend know that the HUNDREDS of her nurses that have contracted COVID onsite in the hospital was a fluke. You do that. We just happen to be in a different country though and a different hospital. |
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 16, 2021 16:16:04 GMT
Not an unreasonable question. I don't know the answer and on the face of it, yes, he probably should have had one. I agree, the mask isn’t just for him, it’s to protect those he is with. Yes, people can be asymptomatic and we don’t know that people with the vaccine cannot pass it on, so he probably should have had one on. Although, I wonder if he was routinely tested so they knew he didn’t have it? They certainly couldn’t guarantee he didn’t have it just because he could walk to the car by himself or because he was in a hospital. That is just ridiculous to assume either of those mean he is covid free. Even if he doesn’t have covid and they knew that he wasn’t contagious it just sets a nice example. I am sure Biden is covid free but he still wears a mask to model appropriate behavior. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Mar 16, 2021 16:18:25 GMT
I agree, the mask isn’t just for him, it’s to protect those he is with. Yes, people can be asymptomatic and we don’t know that people with the vaccine cannot pass it on, so he probably should have had one on. Although, I wonder if he was routinely tested so they knew he didn’t have it? They certainly couldn’t guarantee he didn’t have it just because he could walk to the car by himself or because he was in a hospital. That is just ridiculous to assume either of those mean he is covid free. Even if he doesn’t have covid and they knew that he wasn’t contagious it just sets a nice example. I am sure Biden is covid free but he still wears a mask to model appropriate behavior. But, but, but He's a PRINCE! *sarcasm* |
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Post by gillyp on Mar 16, 2021 16:26:54 GMT
Certain people are exempt from wearing masks due to health conditions. It could well be that that applies to him. If that's not the case and he's just being bloody minded, then he deserves any bad comments in this regard. I'm sure it will be picked to pieces on our news and in the papers.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 16, 2021 16:37:37 GMT
But, but, but He's a PRINCE! *sarcasm* being a Prince doesn't make him free from following the rules, but it DOES mean that he probably has one of the best medical teams in the world (people can argue over whether this is a fair thing or not) He's married to the Queen, he's almost 100yo and there are big celebrations planned...so everyone has a vested interest in keeping him alive. They aren't going to take any unnecessary risks, so the most logical assumption is that they have already established that he didn't need one...rather than that British doctors were just too stupid to think of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 17:09:12 GMT
I agree, the mask isn’t just for him, it’s to protect those he is with. Yes, people can be asymptomatic and we don’t know that people with the vaccine cannot pass it on, so he probably should have had one on. Although, I wonder if he was routinely tested so they knew he didn’t have it? They certainly couldn’t guarantee he didn’t have it just because he could walk to the car by himself or because he was in a hospital. That is just ridiculous to assume either of those mean he is covid free. Even if he doesn’t have covid and they knew that he wasn’t contagious it just sets a nice example. I am sure Biden is covid free but he still wears a mask to model appropriate behavior. I assume that he would have multiple blood test while he was in there and it would have showed up that way if he was asymptomatic. You can't compare him to Pres Biden who meets a variety of people every day unlike Prince Phillip. |
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 16, 2021 17:12:31 GMT
Yes, people can be asymptomatic and we don’t know that people with the vaccine cannot pass it on, so he probably should have had one on. Although, I wonder if he was routinely tested so they knew he didn’t have it? They certainly couldn’t guarantee he didn’t have it just because he could walk to the car by himself or because he was in a hospital. That is just ridiculous to assume either of those mean he is covid free. Even if he doesn’t have covid and they knew that he wasn’t contagious it just sets a nice example. I am sure Biden is covid free but he still wears a mask to model appropriate behavior. I assume that he would have multiple blood test while he was in there and it would have showed up that way if he was asymptomatic. You can't compare him to Pres Biden who meets a variety of people every day unlike Prince Phillip. I only meant in a manner of modeling behavior. Regarding the test I did address that, I agree that they probably know he is negative. I was just more calling out that people said he was walking to his car he couldn't have covid. Or because he was in a hospital he couldn't have covid. |
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Post by pjaye on Mar 16, 2021 18:36:02 GMT
I was just more calling out that people said he was walking to his car he couldn't have covid. Or because he was in a hospital he couldn't have covid. Firstly no-one said that, but in reality if you are able to think through both of those things logically, and understand what they mean in terms of his medical condition, then actually yes, those two things are enough to tell you he doesn't have covid. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 18:38:55 GMT
I assume that he would have multiple blood test while he was in there and it would have showed up that way if he was asymptomatic. You can't compare him to Pres Biden who meets a variety of people every day unlike Prince Phillip. I only meant in a manner of modeling behavior. Regarding the test I did address that, I agree that they probably know he is negative. I was just more calling out that people said he was walking to his car he couldn't have covid. Or because he was in a hospital he couldn't have covid. There’s only 56 beds at the King Edward so the control is far easier. It is a very exclusive private hospital. |
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 16, 2021 18:40:23 GMT
I was just more calling out that people said he was walking to his car he couldn't have covid. Or because he was in a hospital he couldn't have covid. Firstly no-one said that, but in reality if you are able to think through both of those things logically, and understand what they mean in terms of his medical condition, then actually yes, those two things are enough to tell you he doesn't have covid. " If he's healthy enough to walk out the door and to be going home - then what infectious disease does he have that others need to be scared of catching??" I am not interested in arguing with you but the Orange Menace was in a hospital and walked himself to the car and yet he had Covid. People who are asymptomatic with Covid are perfectly capable of walking themselves around. Some people who are symptomatic with Covid are able to walk around. Not everyone with Covid is in a hospital. I am not sure how the fact that he is walking and was in a hospital means he doesn't have covid. |
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 16, 2021 18:43:58 GMT
I only meant in a manner of modeling behavior. Regarding the test I did address that, I agree that they probably know he is negative. I was just more calling out that people said he was walking to his car he couldn't have covid. Or because he was in a hospital he couldn't have covid. There’s only 56 beds at the King Edward so the control is far easier. It is a very exclusive private hospital. I agree that he likely doesn't have covid. I don't think the exclusive hospital guarantees his safety though and it doesn't mean he couldn't be setting an example by wearing a mask. That is all I am trying to say. |
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Post by maryland on Mar 16, 2021 20:26:23 GMT
I agree, the mask isn’t just for him, it’s to protect those he is with. Yes, people can be asymptomatic and we don’t know that people with the vaccine cannot pass it on, so he probably should have had one on. Although, I wonder if he was routinely tested so they knew he didn’t have it? They certainly couldn’t guarantee he didn’t have it just because he could walk to the car by himself or because he was in a hospital. That is just ridiculous to assume either of those mean he is covid free. Even if he doesn’t have covid and they knew that he wasn’t contagious it just sets a nice example. I am sure Biden is covid free but he still wears a mask to model appropriate behavior. I thought they are saying that if you are vaccinated you cannot pass on the virus. I know at first they weren't sure, but when they said last week that vaccinated people can hug unvaccinated people, I assumed they can't pass it on. I get more confused every day!  |
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Post by anniebygaslight on Mar 17, 2021 13:49:26 GMT
No vaccine is 100% effective and he seems so frail. Plus he's walking out of the hospital and straight into a car, he's not doing a meet & greet with the public and shaking everyone's hand. According to the UK news, he was transferred from the hospital to the car in a wheelchair. He looked dreadful in the few photos that we were shown. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 13:55:04 GMT
Plus he's walking out of the hospital and straight into a car, he's not doing a meet & greet with the public and shaking everyone's hand. According to the UK news, he was transferred from the hospital to the car in a wheelchair. He looked dreadful in the few photos that we were shown. The first tweet that came out as breaking news said he had walked but that wasn't the case when more info came out later. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 13:57:13 GMT
Why is he not wearing a mask? It's possible that his doctors said not to. The man is 99 after all. The driver and guard are wearing a mask so good enough. |
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Post by oh yvonne on Mar 17, 2021 15:28:45 GMT
anyone else wondering what will happen if he passes away soon? I mean between COVID and Harry and Meagan situation I wonder what plan B is for a funeral?
The man has lived an extraordinary life for sure. 99 years old. Wow.
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