Harry & Meghan Oprah Interview Tonight

Of course it did, she knew exactly what she was doing and that's exactly why she did it. Counting on all the Americans to fall for her lies hook line and sinker, and based on this thread alone - it's worked out beautifully for her.

So you are saying you don’t believe Meghan when she says she was suicidal pregnant and told she couldn’t seek help for fear of optics?


Does that strike you as heartless when you see it worded that way?


You gonna answer that question about racism in the UK?


Also you mentioned not having seen the interview in it’s entirety....did you see the link of royal commentators who did the same thing? Thoughts?


I see that you briefly commented on racism in the UK. Your response was vague care to expound? You said it has no place? But is there space?

That’s it?

Unfortunately there is racism in the uk , sad but true .

There were alot of tv programmes leading up to Brexit stirring up racism against people who were living or working here from other countries. 

This is not a thing to be proud of.

Ah right you wanna talk about everything but just like Americans! Sorry I’ll let you get back to telling us the inside scoop from a Brit perspective. All before seeing the interview like those royal commentators

Yes, of course it’s possible. But it’s concurrently impossible that anybody here knows that no racist innuendo was expressed  - or, for example, that it’s doubtful Camilla would say anything racially offensive. (Just an example upthread; I know almost nothing about her.) 

I can neither deny nor doubt the presence of racism in strangers. If it’s reported by somebody of color, especially, I’m open to believing it. My comment was conceived within my own life context of “Almost everybody, including me, harbors some racist thoughts, so why NOT this family and their staff. Why the disbelief?” 

You said the coloring comment could be innocent enough and shouldn’t lead anyone to believe Meghan was treated like umm a Black woman and I asked well what about the media and it going unchecked by the family. She was quoted as saying like “..... would lie to protect one another but couldn’t tell the truth to protect me and my husband”


Of course the media is often unchecked but if Harry believes it contributed to his mothers death the fact that he couldn’t depend on his very powerful family to at the very least not invite them into the castle....well we can see why he felt he needed to leave to protect his family.

I didn’t twist anything. You’ve quoted me so I’m assuming you can read the “So are you saying” part of the question.

One doesn't.

But they have found a way to market every slight and cause, real or imagined, that they have the least little claim to.

Racism is bad so don't twist my words. But someone who I assume is a close family member simply wondering what an unborn child might look like - will he or she resemble the mom or dad - isn't something that is automatic racism. Unless you want it to be for some personal benefit - media attention, another cause to champion, etc.  There isn't a pregnant couple who hasn't wondered or had a discussion before their baby is born about what the child might look like. 

Both of them would have/should have known why and that it had nothing to do with the colour of Archie's skin. Harry has cousins with children, all white and non of them have titles but they are all great-grandchildren of the Queen. Why should they expect different for theirs?


To me, what was different about Archie vs. his cousins is he is a direct grandchild of Charles, future king. With the Queen in her 90's, presumably Charles will become king while Archie is still a child. So "delaying" or leaving the open the option to not give Archie a title once Charles is king, vs. giving him one at birth, seems overly controlling, punitive, and influenced by their attitudes towards Meghan and Archie's heritage (yeah, racism).

Seeing Harry and William grow up, did people honestly ever think Harry's future children would not be prince/princesses, and only William's?

That’s great that they champion mental health. And I definitely believe the resources exist and are accessible. I mean, it’s not America, so there’s that. (Insert wry emoji.)

That acknowledged, I have no idea whether that means it’s impossible that Meghan could have been stonewalled, deterred, counseled differently. At the least, I think an emergency psychiatric admission is different than the type of (presumedly) afternoon-appointment type of therapy that Harry might have received, and could have garnered a press and social media storm in a time when Meghan was already under a microscope. But I really don’t know. Maybe Meghan is flat-out lying. But I do believe it’s also possible she was living/working among people that could be disproportionately influenced by the image fallout, no matter how accessible the services. (ETA: Or she could feel reluctant to do it on her own.) And I still believe it’s a very different situation than morning sickness treatment, even in the most enlightened, pro-active contexts.

Speaking of believing, I really should watch this interview and see if I believe what I believe. Heh.

I agree. There are also many countries who's culture carries it out for all funerals where the males walk and follows the coffin.

I thought the same thing. 

Not at all. Please separate the Royal Family from the governance of this country and the constitution of the Monarchy. The Queen is a a mother, grandmother and a great grandmother but she is also the Head of State and as such is obligated to carry out those duties as laid down by law and has nothing to do with her as a grandmother or a G grandmother.