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Post by Olan on Apr 9, 2021 21:10:18 GMT
"Were you, or are you a Trump supporter or supporter of current Republican party policies? (I'm using policies loosely because there aren't any anymore, except Sieg Heil to whatever the latest atrocity is that Trump pulls out of his ass) If so, a "cool and unique" person could not be a Trump supporter. Those two statements are mutually exclusive. If you "love to encourage others" and are a Trump supporter, then what you mean is, you love to encourage everyone but people of color, non-heterosexuals, and non-Christians. You are free to speak here until the cows come home, but if you are spouting BS that is anathema and intolerable to people who want a just society, you will be challenged, and rightly so. There's another thread on here about Nazi concentration camps. Nazi concentration camps happened because Germans didn't speak out. Smart people take a page from history. ------------------ "And it's really a wonder that any Republicans/Conservatives no longer post here?  I'll give you evidence A as to why. This person has now deemed anybody who supports the Republican Party a racist, homophobe, right wing Christian who cannot possibly be cool and unique and worth knowing." Thank you *KAS* for calling it out. I will leave Olan's post quoted above as an example of the closed-mindedness, unkindness, discrimination, labeling and divisiveness that I have endured. Olan, you are no better than the people you hate. Who do I hate? What post did you quote? Is it missing? |
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Post by wiredmommy on Apr 9, 2021 21:13:22 GMT
I apologize Olan, I already edited my post - it was Peano that I was quoting.
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 9, 2021 21:15:04 GMT
I’m not trying to direct the conversation or anything and know threads take whatever turn they want 😏but I’m not talking about political threads or discussion and the adult choices to participate in them....I’m talking about the complete disappearance of most conservative and Republican pea voices. Do you think after a decade of board participation they’ve just decided to not log in somewhere? Seems odd no? They have their other online place(s) to discuss. I know this for a fact because of a couple of long-time (10+ years) conservative pea friends. If they aren’t comfortable being here right now, and feel more comfortable in other online settings, that align more with their political beliefs, there is nothing wrong with that. I support it wholeheartedly. There is absolutely nothing odd or wrong about it. It is only annoying, to me, when there is a hot-button topic/thread here and then suddenly a bunch, who are usually absent, make appearances to simply drop bombs and run - most likely because they have been alerted and pointed to the target-thread from discussion on one of those other places. Many years ago, in the early days of 2Peas and NSBR and online message boards, participating in splinter/off-shoot boards was seen as somehow being disloyal or betraying “the pod.” I think that we, as a culture, have moved beyond that. There is a realization that people belong to a variety of online communities. I, personally, think that is a good thing. I couldn’t agree more. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 9, 2021 21:17:11 GMT
Conservative and republican are two totally different things. I have zero tolerance and respect for “religious”, homophobic, transphobic, racist, misogynistic, republican trumpers. I’m glad they no longer post here but don’t fool yourself, they are still here. Yes and they even still read the political threads. After deleting/flouncing they sometimes just can't stand it and sign up again to voice how mistreated the conservatives have been treated. This thread is evidence of that.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 21:27:55 GMT
I think a good first place to start is setting a baseline - that not everyone who leans toward being a conservative supports the republican party and what they stand for. I lean conservative with some thing but the republican party is not a place I call home and I never vote straight ticket.
There is a huge assumption that ALL conservatives deny human rights. When assumptions are made the mind closes to hearing and processing other perspectives.
No one is saying you (general "you") have to support a conservative party if their beliefs don't align with yours. You have the right to insult, belittle, curse, cancel, <insert whatever behavior you want here> but where is that going to get you? Will it improve the situation or bring others to your side or help others understand?
This board seems to have forgotten that you can still confront someone about an issue (political or otherwise) and keep it respectful, kind, and solution oriented. When a kinder approach takes center stage you have to be personally responsible for your actions and words. Right now it's like people want to be heard but not be responsible and it's no holding back to make sure words fly that will get a reaction versus understanding.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Apr 9, 2021 21:36:23 GMT
This board seems to have forgotten that you can still confront someone about an issue (political or otherwise) and keep it respectful, kind, and solution oriented. When a kinder approach takes center stage you have to be personally responsible for your actions and words. Right now it's like people want to be heard but not be responsible and it's no holding back to make sure words fly that will get a reaction versus understanding. I think these posters exist here but they are not the majority. I think it's a stretch to say that this board is a negative political space because of a handful of posters. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 21:50:15 GMT
They may be a minority but after multiple loud, vocal and insulting threads they become the majority unfortunately. I have noticed a difference in the more calm and respectful debaters not showing up to the board as much - at least the ones I remember.
I will be honest in saying that it is likely I am still licking my wounds from a few threads earlier this year that were nothing but a pile-on when I brought up a different viewpoint. There was no discussion or debate - just full force pile on of insults, invalidation, and hurtful comments - only because I brought up a different perspective. Due to the ugly treatment I do limit my time here to checking in once or twice a week versus multiple daily check ins like I used to do. This is most I have posted here in a long while.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Apr 9, 2021 21:55:16 GMT
I am trying to find the right words on this one. There are some intense liberals on this board, and no, not everyone has been civil by any means, but I lean towards what Peabay said and feel that at least 75% of the issues stem from “Trump/evangelical/populist” type posters trying to defend the indefensible or unwilling to really confront their cognitive dissonance. The fragility isn’t just when it comes to race. A lot of people want to puke out their beliefs all over the internet and throw out inane memes from questionable sources, but they don’t really want to reflect and defend those beliefs.
It has also become pretty much Trumpers/anti-intellectuals (anti science on both ends of the policical spectrum) vs everyone else. The far left and the far right have joined in an unholy alliance and they HATE to be called on their bullshit.
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 9, 2021 21:57:28 GMT
Can only speak for myself, but yes, I pretty much stopped coming here altogether. I usually check in once a month or so, but don't post much. The political threads killed the vibe for me. I just didn't like the atmosphere here anymore. I am honestly not being snarky but I am so curious. Were you as bummed out by the negativity when Obama and Michelle were being called monkeys and being bashed for wearing a tan suit or sandals, lies about his birth place saying he was not an American? The things that I read peas say about them were heart breaking and completely undeserved. Did you speak up and tell those who were doing the name calling and mocking that it was driving the libs away? Or did you join in and encourage that type of nonsense? There may have been some but for the most part all that shameful political talk about the Obama's didn't drive any libs away. The stayed and voiced their truth. The Obamas are decent people. Trump is a psycho. Did bashing Trump drive you away but bashing Obamas didn't? |
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Post by Merge on Apr 9, 2021 22:01:33 GMT
Wandered into this thread, liked a few posts, wandering out again. My vaccinated ass is heading to a baseball game. Y’all have fun with this SSDD stuff.
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 9, 2021 22:09:21 GMT
I think a good first place to start is setting a baseline - that not everyone who leans toward being a conservative supports the republican party and what they stand for. I lean conservative with some thing but the republican party is not a place I call home and I never vote straight ticket. There is a huge assumption that ALL conservatives deny human rights. When assumptions are made the mind closes to hearing and processing other perspectives. No one is saying you (general "you") have to support a conservative party if their beliefs don't align with yours. You have the right to insult, belittle, curse, cancel, <insert whatever behavior you want here> but where is that going to get you? Will it improve the situation or bring others to your side or help others understand? This board seems to have forgotten that you can still confront someone about an issue (political or otherwise) and keep it respectful, kind, and solution oriented. When a kinder approach takes center stage you have to be personally responsible for your actions and words. Right now it's like people want to be heard but not be responsible and it's no holding back to make sure words fly that will get a reaction versus understanding. I appreciate your response. To be clear, I'm not meaning these kinds of people, people like you - so I realize that makes it difficult for you to answer. I have made it quite clear that I can (and do) parse the difference between people who are Trumpers and those who are conservative. Living where I do, i have many friends who are conservative, but no longer feel the republican party represents them fully, and feel politically homeless, as it were. I have no trouble having open respectful discussions with them, even if we dont agree on the way to go about it in the end. The Trumpers who *are* openly okay with denying human rights, are what I struggle the most with. The republican party whose entire platform now seems to be about owning and negating people who think differently to them, which means people who think like me. They *are* the face of the republican party now, like it or not. The republican party is in lockstep with that. *That* is what I struggle with. Those type of people, in particular. How can they support that, and still be surprised and upset when it makes me question the kind of person they are? Its increasingly hard to keep the two separate. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 9, 2021 22:22:58 GMT
I think what usually gets missed on these threads which seem to pop up every few months is that it truly ISN'T just Trump supporters being called to task. I have never supported Trump, I have said it emphatically a million times. And if I simply bring up that someone has their facts wrong, a handful of posters go bananas. Yes it's just a handful of posters, but they have come to utterly dominate the political threads and truly make it a bubble and they are notorious for posting utter drivel that is often WRONG and will then argue at infinitum with multiple red herrings and changes of subjects to avoid admitting they're wrong. It's frankly tiresome. I still wander into the political threads, but frankly they're not that interesting.
And before someone asks, I haven't been here as long as many peas, so I wasn't here during the Obama administration's first term and appreciate that there were some nasty people back then and it might have been overwhelmingly nasty in the other direction - I wouldn't have enjoyed that either. I recall a few other nasty people from when I joined around his second term - in general it seemed that most of that nastiness was direct at other public figures and while still not appropriate, it felt less personal to peas with some notorious examples to the contrary - so no need to bring up random one off horrible behavior. In general there were more posters of varying views posting thoughtful, interesting perspectives. I actually enjoyed and respected many people I was having discussions with - and as a centrist who's financial conservative and socially liberal, I can often be found arguing with both sides as no political party shares my views.
Kind of like the current transracial adoption thread where people are posting personal experiences in a really thoughtful way and I'm learning - even if there's a few random off topic ugliness- there's so much unique experiences and thought provoking posts it's interesting. The political posts used to be that way, where I'd truly get a chance to hear the perspective of someone who might have completely different life experiences and that can be really compelling in a political discussion - that's pretty much gone these days in the political threads.
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Post by people on Apr 9, 2021 22:27:51 GMT
I live in a red state. I definitely have a pulse on conservative's concerns. I agree that it is useful to see all sides. In all honesty, I do not miss the vicious posts back in the 2Peas days. I do wish we could all converse in a civil manner on here, like I do with my conservative friends. But it doesn't seem possible these days. It does seem impossible. I think because we are reckoning with so much . I wonder what this admin will do for bi-partisanship or what that even looks like moving forward.She will ban you from this board that’s what the admin does. |
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Post by Olan on Apr 9, 2021 22:28:48 GMT
Ugliness? You mean someone saying I made sweeping generalizations and then not coming back and owning their mistake? Why categorize that as ugliness? I didn’t personally attack anyone.
And no one seems to intelligibly defend their stance anymore. That’s why no one see can a different perspective. The perspective isn’t one Republicans are comfortable naming and defending. We can see why no👀also I don’t see liberal peas rallying around misinformation but I do notice what I would describe as fence riding.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 9, 2021 22:37:07 GMT
Ugliness? You mean someone saying I made sweeping generalizations and then not coming back and owning their mistake? Why categorize that as ugliness? I didn’t personally attack anyone. And no one seems to intelligible defend their stance anymore. That’s why no one see a different perspective. I don’t think liberal peas rally around misinformation and have you to thank for an unbiased correction but okay. 🤷🏿♀️ Why would you assume I'm talking about you? And if you don't think SOME liberal peas rally around misinformation you must be missing some threads. There are some very thoughtful posters who post provide links and references to their statements (and yes I include you in that group as you almost always provide links) and there are some posters who see something on twitter or facebook and rush to post it even if it's utter drivel and was written by some yahoo who is no authority on anything - just some random twitter poster. And when you provide actual facts to show their information is incorrect they will argue FOREVER. It's tiresome. |
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 9, 2021 22:39:35 GMT
I think a good first place to start is setting a baseline - that not everyone who leans toward being a conservative supports the republican party and what they stand for. I lean conservative with some thing but the republican party is not a place I call home and I never vote straight ticket. There is a huge assumption that ALL conservatives deny human rights. When assumptions are made the mind closes to hearing and processing other perspectives. No one is saying you (general "you") have to support a conservative party if their beliefs don't align with yours. You have the right to insult, belittle, curse, cancel, <insert whatever behavior you want here> but where is that going to get you? Will it improve the situation or bring others to your side or help others understand? This board seems to have forgotten that you can still confront someone about an issue (political or otherwise) and keep it respectful, kind, and solution oriented. When a kinder approach takes center stage you have to be personally responsible for your actions and words. Right now it's like people want to be heard but not be responsible and it's no holding back to make sure words fly that will get a reaction versus understanding. I think the majority of the left leaning, liberals or Democrats make the distinction between the supporters of former and traditional conservatives. However, since the Republicans have bowed to former, there is little distinction between the current Republican Party and supporters of former. I do think some traditional conservative values deny some Americans basic rights. Opposition to abortion, opposition to gay marriage, immigration etc. To me, it’s the ultimate in hypocrisy to declare support for smaller government, less interference but at the same time impose restrictions on who you can marry or women’s reproductive rights. Government interference is OK as long as it aligns with your values? How do some conservatives square that? |
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 9, 2021 22:40:41 GMT
I am trying to find the right words on this one. There are some intense liberals on this board, and no, not everyone has been civil by any means, but I lean towards what Peabay said and feel that at least 75% of the issues stem from “Trump/evangelical/populist” type posters trying to defend the indefensible or unwilling to really confront their cognitive dissonance. The fragility isn’t just when it comes to race. A lot of people want to puke out their beliefs all over the internet and throw out inane memes from questionable sources, but they don’t really want to reflect and defend those beliefs. It has also become pretty much Trumpers/anti-intellectuals (anti science on both ends of the policical spectrum) vs everyone else. The far left and the far right have joined in an unholy alliance and they HATE to be called on their bullshit. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Standing ovation. |
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 9, 2021 22:45:40 GMT
They may be a minority but after multiple loud, vocal and insulting threads they become the majority unfortunately. I have noticed a difference in the more calm and respectful debaters not showing up to the board as much - at least the ones I remember. I will be honest in saying that it is likely I am still licking my wounds from a few threads earlier this year that were nothing but a pile-on when I brought up a different viewpoint. There was no discussion or debate - just full force pile on of insults, invalidation, and hurtful comments - only because I brought up a different perspective. Due to the ugly treatment I do limit my time here to checking in once or twice a week versus multiple daily check ins like I used to do. This is most I have posted here in a long while. Just curious, did you register under a different name recently? I don’t see anything in your posting history resembling this. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 9, 2021 22:51:33 GMT
They may be a minority but after multiple loud, vocal and insulting threads they become the majority unfortunately. I have noticed a difference in the more calm and respectful debaters not showing up to the board as much - at least the ones I remember. I will be honest in saying that it is likely I am still licking my wounds from a few threads earlier this year that were nothing but a pile-on when I brought up a different viewpoint. There was no discussion or debate - just full force pile on of insults, invalidation, and hurtful comments - only because I brought up a different perspective. Due to the ugly treatment I do limit my time here to checking in once or twice a week versus multiple daily check ins like I used to do. This is most I have posted here in a long while. Just curious, did you register under a different name recently? I don’t see anything in your posting history resembling this. They rarely come back under their real screen name...but they do come back. |
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Post by elaine on Apr 9, 2021 22:52:04 GMT
It does seem impossible. I think because we are reckoning with so much . I wonder what this admin will do for bi-partisanship or what that even looks like moving forward.False. 💯 % Speaking from first-hand experience. |
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Post by epeanymous on Apr 9, 2021 22:56:19 GMT
I’m here, I am super-lefty, and I am pretty chill. I have noticed that when the conservative posters dump and run, they don’t commonly respond to me or engage me. I am wondering if it is possible that they may not be looking to have a chill discussion.
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Post by peano on Apr 9, 2021 23:06:55 GMT
Conservative and republican are two totally different things. I have zero tolerance and respect for “religious”, homophobic, transphobic, racist, misogynistic, republican trumpers. I’m glad they no longer post here but don’t fool yourself, they are still here. This is an interesting post. I hadn’t thought about how describing yourself as conservative or republican is now two different ways of describing someone. The Republican party is owned by Donald Trump. The Republican party as it once was pre-Trump, and hell, pre-Tea Party no longer exists. Now you have the former Republican party members going WTF, what do we do, our party has been hijacked by Q. But it's not a closely guarded secret. Read some news. ETA: I spend a lot of time listening to former Republicans who are trying to figure out what the hell happened to their party, and how to get it back. I never registered formerly with any party until late 2018 because it was at that point that I realized the Republican party had reached the point of no return and either needed to splinter off into a new party, or burn the existing cesspool into oblivion and start over, or ? |
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Post by Laurie on Apr 9, 2021 23:08:11 GMT
This is an interesting post. I hadn’t thought about how describing yourself as conservative or republican is now two different ways of describing someone. The Republican party is owned by Donald Trump. The Republican party as it once was pre-Trump, and hell, pre-Tea Party no longer exists. Now you have the former Republican party members going WTF, what do we do, our party has been hijacked by Q. But it's not a closely guarded secret. Read some news. Thanks for the “advice” but I read the news daily. |
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Post by peano on Apr 9, 2021 23:16:17 GMT
You can't have a civil debate on this board anymore. If you don't agree with the liberal viewpoint, the name calling, insults, accusations, etc. pile on like nothing I have seen. No one is going to choose to spend time with a group of people in order be treated as poorly as I have witnessed and received. The lack of respect shown (maybe tolerance is the better word) is one of the main reasons the country is in the state it's in - and that's not a behavior missing from only the conservative side. Both sides need to get a grip and treat each other as humans first and foremost. No. |
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 9, 2021 23:17:29 GMT
I think a good first place to start is setting a baseline - that not everyone who leans toward being a conservative supports the republican party and what they stand for. I lean conservative with some thing but the republican party is not a place I call home and I never vote straight ticket. There is a huge assumption that ALL conservatives deny human rights. When assumptions are made the mind closes to hearing and processing other perspectives. No one is saying you (general "you") have to support a conservative party if their beliefs don't align with yours. You have the right to insult, belittle, curse, cancel, <insert whatever behavior you want here> but where is that going to get you? Will it improve the situation or bring others to your side or help others understand? This board seems to have forgotten that you can still confront someone about an issue (political or otherwise) and keep it respectful, kind, and solution oriented. When a kinder approach takes center stage you have to be personally responsible for your actions and words. Right now it's like people want to be heard but not be responsible and it's no holding back to make sure words fly that will get a reaction versus understanding. I think the majority of the left leaning, liberals or Democrats make the distinction between the supporters of former and traditional conservatives. However, since the Republicans have bowed to former, there is little distinction between the current Republican Party and supporters of former. I do think some traditional conservative values deny some Americans basic rights. Opposition to abortion, opposition to gay marriage, immigration etc. To me, it’s the ultimate in hypocrisy to declare support for smaller government, less interference but at the same time impose restrictions on who you can marry or women’s reproductive rights. Government interference is OK as long as it aligns with your values? How do some conservatives square that? Yes, it makes it very difficult. I don’t agree with every single liberal perspective or point of view on here 100% of the time, either. I think it’s equally unfair to hold us all to the posts of the most vocal or prolific. |
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Post by peano on Apr 9, 2021 23:18:25 GMT
I think that we are all adults and can decide individually what to discuss here and what not to. There are some topics that I wouldn’t discuss here with a 10-foot pole. On one thread right now, I know that if I were to share my what-I-feel-are-very-valid opinions, I would be eviscerated. So, I don’t. I do not need to discuss here out loud every thought, or even some fairly passionate beliefs/opinions, that I have.That doesn’t make NSBR any less important, invaluable, or irreplaceable in my life. I think it is expecting the impossible to demand that one message board fulfill all of one’s needs, or be welcoming of all of every individual’s beliefs/opinions/thoughts. And can I say that I couldn’t abhor the term “cancel culture” anymore than I currently do? It seems to be only used by the ultra-right to whine and complain when they receive ANY pushback regarding their beliefs. And, of course, it is anything BUT cancel culture - in their eyes - when the GOP calls for boycotting Coke, Delta and Major League Baseball. *That* is somehow different. The term “cancel culture” is all a huge crock of sh*t, dressed up so that right-wingers can pretend not to be exactly what they have whined and pointed fingers about for over a decade. I need to take a page from you Elaine, concerning the passage I've bolded. And of course, an enthusiastic yes to your third paragraph. |
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Post by Laurie on Apr 9, 2021 23:20:04 GMT
I think that we are all adults and can decide individually what to discuss here and what not to. There are some topics that I wouldn’t discuss here with a 10-foot pole. On one thread right now, I know that if I were to share my what-I-feel-are-very-valid opinions, I would be eviscerated. So, I don’t. I do not need to discuss here out loud every thought, or even some fairly passionate beliefs/opinions, that I have.That doesn’t make NSBR any less important, invaluable, or irreplaceable in my life. I think it is expecting the impossible to demand that one message board fulfill all of one’s needs, or be welcoming of all of every individual’s beliefs/opinions/thoughts. And can I say that I couldn’t abhor the term “cancel culture” anymore than I currently do? It seems to be only used by the ultra-right to whine and complain when they receive ANY pushback regarding their beliefs. And, of course, it is anything BUT cancel culture - in their eyes - when the GOP calls for boycotting Coke, Delta and Major League Baseball. *That* is somehow different. The term “cancel culture” is all a huge crock of sh*t, dressed up so that right-wingers can pretend not to be exactly what they have whined and pointed fingers about for over a decade. I need to take a page from you Elaine, concerning the passage I've bolded. And of course, an enthusiastic yes to your third paragraph. After reading your posts on this thread it seems you could learn a lot from Elaine. Please don’t just take a page from her...take the whole damn book. |
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Post by peano on Apr 9, 2021 23:31:36 GMT
Were you, or are you a Trump supporter or supporter of current Republican party policies? (I'm using policies loosely because there aren't any anymore, except Sieg Heil to whatever the latest atrocity is that Trump pulls out of his ass) If so, a "cool and unique" person could not be a Trump supporter. Those two statements are mutually exclusive. If you "love to encourage others" and are a Trump supporter, then what you mean is, you love to encourage everyone but people of color, non-heterosexuals, and non-Christians. You are free to speak here until the cows come home, but if you are spouting BS that is anathema and intolerable to people who want a just society, you will be challenged, and rightly so. There's another thread on here about Nazi concentration camps. Nazi concentration camps happened because Germans didn't speak out. Smart people take a page from history. And it's really a wonder that any Republicans/Conservatives no longer post here? I'll give you evidence A as to why. This person has now deemed anybody who supports the Republican Party a racist, homophobe, right wing Christian who cannot possibly be cool and unique and worth knowing. That will just give you the warm fuzzies about being welcome here, won't it? I used to identify with the Republican party / Conservatives, because my parents were. Then I grew up more and realized I was more fiscally conservative but socially liberal. Haven't had a candidate that has all of my views. I can't stand Donald Trump. This place became a cesspool of negativity during the election. Nobody was even willing to listen with an open mind. I used to love to learn from others but it just isn't worth it. I come here when I need a brain break. This just isn't the vibe I want to invite in voluntarily. I am quite familiar with former Republicans' views on the current state of the Republican party. I am very interested and find myself aligned with them in their sort of "WTF happened to the Republican party" under Trump. I come from a long line of Republicans myself. I have consciously tried to keep myself open to both sides of thought beyond mindless adherence to some party line. I said what I said, BECAUSE as you say the Republican party HAS become full of "racist, homophobe, and right wing Christians" . Because of this, why the hell would I deem them "cool and unique and worth knowing". even more than I would deem Hitler cool and unique and worth knowing. I am getting old and I find I have little tolerance for dealing with people who want to keep wearing the Southern rosy-colored glasses to keep everything all nice and tied up in a little tidy bow. Fuck that noise. This country is full of people who fear the other. Black people keep dying. Guns are loved more than other people's children. I am at the end of my rope. My mother died when she was 62, the age I am now. I'm not silencing myself to make everything more palatable for anyone else. And if you disagree, carry on. But fuck you. |
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 9, 2021 23:47:32 GMT
I will be honest in saying that it is likely I am still licking my wounds from a few threads earlier this year that were nothing but a pile-on when I brought up a different viewpoint. There was no discussion or debate - just full force pile on of insults, invalidation, and hurtful comments - only because I brought up a different perspective. Due to the ugly treatment I do limit my time here to checking in once or twice a week versus multiple daily check ins like I used to do. This is most I have posted here in a long while. Just curious, did you register under a different name recently? I don’t see anything in your posting history resembling this. I am 99% certain that evie has deleted several of her posts. I recognise the name and pic as someone who has said some things that have earned the wrath of other Peas. |
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Post by Olan on Apr 9, 2021 23:55:12 GMT
Then someone would have surely quoted her no? Even if she deletes something would remain I’d think.
I’ve been accused of everything under the sun with no receipts so I take issue with someone being 99% certain of something but providing no proof. Anything speculative the most liked pea is usually the one everyone believes instead of it being fact driven.
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