Conservative/Republican Peas Absence

Please help me with this then, because I really struggle with it.

How can I treat as human, someone who supports wholeheartedly a party who would happily deny me my human rights?

"Were you, or are you a Trump supporter or supporter of current Republican party policies? (I'm using policies loosely because there aren't any anymore, except Sieg Heil to whatever the latest atrocity is that Trump pulls out of his ass)

If so, a "cool and unique" person could not be a Trump supporter. Those two statements are mutually exclusive. If you "love to encourage others" and are a Trump supporter, then what you mean is, you love to encourage everyone but people of color, non-heterosexuals, and non-Christians.

You are free to speak here until the cows come home, but if you are spouting BS that is anathema and intolerable to people who want a just society, you will be challenged, and rightly so. There's another thread on here about Nazi concentration camps. Nazi concentration camps happened because Germans didn't speak out. Smart people take a page from history.

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"And it's really a wonder that any Republicans/Conservatives no longer post here?
I'll give you evidence A as to why. This person has now deemed anybody who supports the Republican Party a racist, homophobe, right wing Christian who cannot possibly be cool and unique and worth knowing."

Thank you *KAS* for calling it out.

I will leave Peano's post quoted above as an example of the closed-mindedness, unkindness, discrimination, labeling and divisiveness that I have endured. Peano, you are no better than the people you hate.

Thanks for the “advice” but I read the news daily.

I am 99% certain that evie has deleted several of her posts. I recognise the name and pic as someone who has said some things that have earned the wrath of other Peas. 

Kind of like republicans that you seem to lump together. Your posts on this thread are exactly what people have been addressing on this thread. Elaine on the other hand is a class act that tries to educate people in discussions rather than belittle.

Carry on denigrating anyone who doesn’t hold the exact same feelings as you. I gave you the benefit of the doubt on your Olan thread earlier this year but Olan had you pegged. Your sole purpose on this thread has been to attack anyone that has different opinions than you.

Care to share why you gave her the benefit of the doubt when it was pretty clear how harm filled her Creative Writing half assed apology was?

"I think even if treated poorly when you have something valuable to add to a discussion you almost have the responsibility to ride out whatever negative feeling you have and continue participating."

You know what? After a while you get really tired of getting beaten on. Not just here. Lots of other places too.

I'm a cool and unique person. I love to encourage others. I'm worth knowing. But I don't feel free to speak here. I don't feel "a person like me" is wanted here. This is why I don't "continue participating". Now you have your own bubble where you can all agree with one another and can pat one another on the back.

You should be happy you have succeeded in canceling "people like me" or should I say "voters like me" from this board. 

Aren't you happy?? You did it! Great job.

I definitely agree that the Republican party is thoroughly screwed up and does not represent the majority of those who have some conservative beliefs.  Politics in general, at least at a national level, no longer seem to represent the people which is why I decided to put my political efforts in at the community level where I can advocate for change more effectively.  There will continue to be things that happen at the national level that I will call or write my representative and tell them they are losing their ever loving minds.

sassyangel - After being raked over the coals late last year and earlier this year I have to remind myself to slow down and re-read many posts from my more liberal members to make certain I am really "getting" what they are trying to say.  Many times I feel all conservatives and republicans are lumped together.    

Politically homeless hits the mark perfectly.  For example, a homosexual life may not be for me but it doesn't mean policies should exist restricting where same sex couples can live, work, play, eat, shop, obtain health benefits, government services, etc. etc.  I also struggle with another person saying/acting "everyone must live the way I believe because I'm in charge or I'm righteous".  That's bullshit, I will not support it, and I refrain from building relationships with people who believe that way.  On the flip side I do have neighbors who believe that way but I don't treat them as if they are a boil on the butt of humanity.  We say "Hi".  We talk about our gardens, who painted their house a horrible color up the street, the new nail salon that just opened, and may share flowers, baked goods or a tip about a good handyman then go our different ways.  My neighbors beliefs are not mine but I still do what I can to treat them kindly because I believe kindness outweighs being right or righteous and I want a good relationship with the people I live close to.  

You can't legislate morality.  You shouldn't even try.  But there will alway be those who continue to do so because it makes them feel good to hold others down.

I also agree that it is hard to keep the two political party vs perceived person and the labels we give them separate.

I also agree that it is unfair to hold everyone to posts of the most vocal or prolific.  That is one thing I will continue to work on if I stay a part of this community.

I do believe in smaller government and less interference in states rights.  I believe quality, affordable, and accessible health care is a human right.  I believe in immigration.  I am a VERY strong advocate for women's reproductive rights, and freedom to choose sexuality/marriage.  I have beliefs that coincide with both parties so what does that make me?  Do I really need a label? 

Maybe the issue on this board is in the early years it seemed we were interested in building relationships and we've gotten away from that.

I've been a member of 2Peas for almost 20 years - the previous board and migrated over here.  I think I've had three(?) user names in total (LoouLoou, PinkShirley and now Evie).  I did recently leave the board and deleted my Evie userID after being on the hot end of some really bad treatment by others but cam back because I do like the non-political conversations.

Call me the exception.

I haven't deleted any of my posts from the more "delightful" conversations AussieMeg that were posted with this userID.  I did a search for past posts under both this and the deleted version of this userID and it does look everything between the Nov-Feb timeframe are missing.  I didn't delete them so I'm not sure what happened there???  As for saying things that earned the wrath of other Peas - yes I did - all because I had a different viewpoint but instead of being asked why I believed that way I was called some rather ugly names and talked down at in pretty inhumane ways.

As for this thread I am bowing out now.  THANK YOU to Olan for bringing up the subject and starting the conversation.

I definitely agree that the Republican party is thoroughly screwed up and does not represent the majority of those who have some conservative beliefs.  Politics in general, at least at a national level, no longer seem to represent the people which is why I decided to put my political efforts in at the community level where I can advocate for change more effectively.  There will continue to be things that happen at the national level that I will call or write my representative and tell them they are losing their ever loving minds.

sassyangel - After being raked over the coals late last year and earlier this year I have to remind myself to slow down and re-read many posts from my more liberal members to make certain I am really "getting" what they are trying to say.  Many times I feel all conservatives and republicans are lumped together.    

Politically homeless hits the mark perfectly.  For example, a homosexual life may not be for me but it doesn't mean policies should exist restricting where same sex couples can live, work, play, eat, shop, obtain health benefits, government services, etc. etc.  I also struggle with another person saying/acting "everyone must live the way I believe because I'm in charge or I'm righteous".  That's bullshit, I will not support it, and I refrain from building relationships with people who believe that way.  On the flip side I do have neighbors who believe that way but I don't treat them as if they are a boil on the butt of humanity.  We say "Hi".  We talk about our gardens, who painted their house a horrible color up the street, the new nail salon that just opened, and may share flowers, baked goods or a tip about a good handyman then go our different ways.  My neighbors beliefs are not mine but I still do what I can to treat them kindly because I believe kindness outweighs being right or righteous and I want a good relationship with the people I live close to.  

You can't legislate morality.  You shouldn't even try.  But there will alway be those who continue to do so because it makes them feel good to hold others down.

I also agree that it is hard to keep the two political party vs perceived person and the labels we give them separate.

I also agree that it is unfair to hold everyone to posts of the most vocal or prolific.  That is one thing I will continue to work on if I stay a part of this community.

I do believe in smaller government and less interference in states rights.  I believe quality, affordable, and accessible health care is a human right.  I believe in immigration.  I am a VERY strong advocate for women's reproductive rights, and freedom to choose sexuality/marriage.  I have beliefs that coincide with both parties so what does that make me?  Do I really need a label? 

Maybe the issue on this board is in the early years it seemed we were interested in building relationships and we've gotten away from that.

I've been a member of 2Peas for almost 20 years - the previous board and migrated over here.  I think I've had three(?) user names in total (LoouLoou, PinkShirley and now Evie).  I did recently leave the board and deleted my Evie userID after being on the hot end of some really bad treatment by others but cam back because I do like the non-political conversations.

Call me the exception.

I haven't deleted any of my posts from the more "delightful" conversations AussieMeg that were posted with this userID.  I did a search for past posts under both this and the deleted version of this userID and it does look everything between the Nov-Feb timeframe are missing.  I didn't delete them so I'm not sure what happened there???  As for saying things that earned the wrath of other Peas - yes I did - all because I had a different viewpoint but instead of being asked why I believed that way I was called some rather ugly names and talked down at in pretty inhumane ways.

As for this thread I am bowing out now.  THANK YOU to Olan for bringing up the subject and starting the conversation.

LOL. You only have 5 posts. How do you know what admin will do? If I were coming to a board with only 5 posts, I wouldn't even know what an admin is, much less how an admin would comport themselves.