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Post by edie3 on Apr 14, 2021 13:48:36 GMT
My SIL came to visit us. She has a friend who lives about 2 hours away from us, so she came to visit too. We had several meals at restaurants, and several long distance driving trips while they were here. Her friend paid for nothing! Well, she bought some pastries. She did "try" to pay for her meals, but we all know you can try hard, or hardly try at that. If she couldn't afford it, make it a day trip, budget for it, something. I feel like we were taken advantage of, and I am pissed off. Would that piss you off too?
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Post by gar on Apr 14, 2021 13:54:30 GMT
Did she stay with you?
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Post by edie3 on Apr 14, 2021 13:55:51 GMT
Yes, Friday thru late Sunday night.
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Post by Basket1lady on Apr 14, 2021 13:58:49 GMT
Some people are like that. Yes, it stinks. They either feel that you have more than they do and that you can afford it or they are clueless. Perhaps her family normally pays for everything and it never occurred to her to reciprocate?
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Post by kibblesandbits on Apr 14, 2021 13:59:37 GMT
My SIL came to visit us. She has a friend who lives about 2 hours away from us, so she came to visit too. We had several meals at restaurants, and several long distance driving trips while they were here. Her friend paid for nothing! Well, she bought some pastries. She did "try" to pay for her meals, but we all know you can try hard, or hardly try at that. If she couldn't afford it, make it a day trip, budget for it, something. I feel like we were taken advantage of, and I am pissed off. Would that piss you off too? What am I missing? She bought pastries, offered to pay for her meals - which I gather you deferred.
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Post by peabay on Apr 14, 2021 13:59:49 GMT
I think I would've let her pay for something when she offered. If you thought she was bluffing, call her bluff and let her pay. Just say "oh, thank you!" when she offered.
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Post by auntkelly on Apr 14, 2021 14:04:24 GMT
If I had been in her shoes, I would have paid for every third meal or so and sent you a very nice gift after the trip.
However, I'm guessing you don't know her financial situation or what your sister in law said to her before the trip. (Your sister in law might have said "Don't worry about the cost. They're rich. They'll pay for everything."
I think if you didn't want to pay for all this woman's meals (which is reasonable given that you didn't even invite her), then after the first meal you should have asked for separate checks. If you expected the sister in law and her friend to pay for gas, you should have made that clear before you started taking side trips.
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Post by gar on Apr 14, 2021 14:04:29 GMT
Yes, probably...maybe...when you say she tried to pay, do you mean she said the words but didn't actually make a move to do it? If I had been her I would certainly have wanted to pay for something more than pastries.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 14:07:40 GMT
I would have been very annoyed if I wasn’t asked in advance if the friend could stay at my home as well (I’m assuming you weren’t given a heads up on that?) That’s pretty rude of your SIL to show up on your doorstep with a friend in tow and expect you to accommodate her for an overnight weekend in your home.
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Post by edie3 on Apr 14, 2021 14:07:53 GMT
she said the words but didn't actually make a move to do it This. We do not know her that well, and I just could not imagine letting people pay for my meals. I wouldn't want her to pay for everyone's meal, but at least her own. And no we are not rich. And SIL texted me and said "Friend is coming, I hope that is okay." What do you do at that point?
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Post by gar on Apr 14, 2021 14:10:54 GMT
Yes, easy to be wise after the event. I'm sorry she took advantage of you. Did SIL say/acknowledge that?
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Post by compeateropeator on Apr 14, 2021 14:12:59 GMT
I don’t understand the try to pay line? What does that mean?
ETA - if she said i’ll pay for the next meal, say okay. When that meal came say thanks for picking up this tab.
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Post by edie3 on Apr 14, 2021 14:13:07 GMT
Did SIL say/acknowledge that? Not to me. In fact when friend was leaving she told SIL thanks for having me! WTF?
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Post by kibblesandbits on Apr 14, 2021 14:13:41 GMT
Did your SIL pay for any of her own meals?
Sounds like a very long weekend with very little effective communication. That's kind of on you, as host, to make monetary plans clear.
Ideally, guest should have offered to pay for a meal, but her financial situation may or may not be able to swing a full dinner for 4 -5 people.
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Post by littlemama on Apr 14, 2021 14:14:27 GMT
she said the words but didn't actually make a move to do it This. We do not know her that well, and I just could not imagine letting people pay for my meals. I wouldn't want her to pay for everyone's meal, but at least her own. And no we are not rich. And SIL texted me and said "Friend is coming, I hope that is okay." What do you do at that point? You say,Im sorry I am not comfortable with that, particularly during an out of control pandemic.
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Post by edie3 on Apr 14, 2021 14:14:32 GMT
I don’t understand the try to pay line? You know, someone acts like they are reaching for their wallet or purse, but very slowly, waiting on someone to say "Oh, I got this".
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Post by kibblesandbits on Apr 14, 2021 14:14:33 GMT
she said the words but didn't actually make a move to do it This. We do not know her that well, and I just could not imagine letting people pay for my meals. I wouldn't want her to pay for everyone's meal, but at least her own. And no we are not rich. And SIL texted me and said "Friend is coming, I hope that is okay." What do you do at that point? "Sounds like fun, but we will not be able to accommodate her at this time". That's what you do.
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Post by questioning on Apr 14, 2021 14:14:35 GMT
Rude. Your SIL should have at least paid for her.
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Post by peabay on Apr 14, 2021 14:15:15 GMT
Did SIL say/acknowledge that? Not to me. In fact when friend was leaving she told SIL thanks for having me! WTF? Okay, that's weird, lol.
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Post by peabay on Apr 14, 2021 14:15:38 GMT
Rude. Your SIL should have at least paid for her. ITA.
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Post by compeateropeator on Apr 14, 2021 14:17:18 GMT
I don’t understand the try to pay line? You know, someone acts like they are reaching for their wallet or purse, but very slowly, waiting on someone to say "Oh, I got this". Got it. You just have to out wait them. Hahaha. Sorry no advice. It sounds like it was an uncomfortable weekend. Sorry you had to go through that.
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Post by edie3 on Apr 14, 2021 14:17:42 GMT
SIL did pay for one meal, a meal after friend left. I don't mind paying for SIL, she is family. But a person I have met maybe 3 times? Next time, God forbid, I will tell the server at the start to split the checks. I mean what a wonderful vacation for friend. All she paid for was a few pastries and gas to get here. Must be nice. She has money, that is not a issue.
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Post by christine58 on Apr 14, 2021 14:26:44 GMT
I would not have paid for SIL's meals either. When I go visit friends or family, I always pay my own way
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 14:29:35 GMT
she said the words but didn't actually make a move to do it This. We do not know her that well, and I just could not imagine letting people pay for my meals. I wouldn't want her to pay for everyone's meal, but at least her own. And no we are not rich. And SIL texted me and said "Friend is coming, I hope that is okay." What do you do at that point? You say "That doesn't work for us. Should we reschedule your visit for another weekend?" (ETA: and you make it clear the visit, whenever it happens, is just for SIL. Asking if she needs to reschedule gives her an out.) Also, never host SIL again if you're unable to speak up because now that she invited Friend over once, it's going to happen again.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 14:31:04 GMT
"Sounds like fun, but we will not be able to accommodate her at this time". That's what you do. I agree. I've said, "Oh shoot! That sounds like fun, but I'm not set up to have anyone but you this time. Let's plan for something bigger later in the year" (or next year or never lol) In this case, the pandemic is a perfect excuse, as there would be no way that anyone besides fully vaccinated family would be let into my house. And even then it is iffy. Edited to add that I *did* have a situation where I hosted a small crop in November before the pandemic and one of my guests invited her mom and did not tell me. She just showed up with her in tow, as her mom wanted to "try" scrapbooking. I was pretty pissed, and unfortunately this person is now off my guest list. There wasn't really enough room to accommodate another person, and it made it very awkward. Sometimes it's "the more the merrier" and sometimes it's not. In this case, I didn't really know what to do. So I was re reading this and felt compelled to add that I was irked also because "trying scrapbooking" meant that she wanted to touch all our stuff, be taught the ins and outs of a cricut machine, manual diecut machine, etc...you would think her daughter would have talked to her about expectations before bringing her along, but no. Daughter is not a friend of mine, she was a co worker of one of the group, so she was already an extended include. Apparently I still have some feelings about this, lol.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 14, 2021 14:33:08 GMT
I feel like you should be mad at yourself for not speaking up.
SIL texted at the last minute “I’m bringing a friend.” You could have said no. You could have used the pandemic as a legitimate reason.
Friend offered to pay. You didn’t take her up on it.
I’m pretty assertive, so I don’t get seething over a situation and being mad later. You had lots of opportunities to make it right in the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 14:39:45 GMT
I’m pretty assertive, so I don’t get seething over a situation and being mad later. You had lots of opportunities to make it right in the moment. I think this is maybe the crux-what level of assertiveness are you comfortable with? I am pretty assertive and will speak up in almost any situation especially in one like this. But if you are not, or if you were worried about ticking off SIL or didn't want to cause drama, ect...maybe that impacts speaking up. I helped my friend with this, as she was uncomfortable saying "no" a lot, and we literally practiced her saying things like, "No, I am sorry that doesn't work for me." and other phrases like that. She was being a rug and especially trampled over by her MIL.
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Post by bbkeef on Apr 14, 2021 14:49:52 GMT
Next time, God forbid, I will tell the server at the start to split the checks. 100 times this. I would be appalled if someone I barely knew thought I was buying her dinner. It's very strange to me. Also, if I'm staying at someone's house, you better believe the LEAST I'm going to do is pay for the host's meals at a dinner out. You are providing me a space to stay, water for a shower, probably coffee and food too. I don't have the expense of a hotel, so yeah I'm buying the host's meals at least once!
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Post by busy on Apr 14, 2021 14:50:04 GMT
Just split checks. Or tell your SIL no. Or anything. I’m not a fan of making no effort in the moment to address things and then complaining about being the wronged party later.
I can let one meal slide - awkward situation, I suppose. But to let it repeat is on you.
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Post by anaterra on Apr 14, 2021 14:58:24 GMT
I may be remembering wrong... but didn't you have issues with ur sils visit in the fall??? And bringing a dog that fights with yours.. and now inviting a different person to your house??? Nope!!!
Maybe you can just refrain from hosting.. i dont like feeling like I'm being taken advantage of.. so we only host my mom... everyone else can stay with other family.. or a hotel....
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