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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 14, 2021 13:14:40 GMT
The same way the new variant is Delta. Although I think I mostly heard "the virus from" whichever country.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 14, 2021 13:21:34 GMT
From the BBC. linkListen to the video of him talking about disinfection & injection. Bleach is a disinfectant. It is a common disinfectant. No, no one in there right mind would suggest injectionIng someone with a “disinfectant”. But trump is an incredibly stupid man and that big brain of his couldn’t come up with a more suitable term for whatever the hell he was talking about so he used “disinfectant”. So once again the President of the United States made himself look like clueless idiot that people ridiculed. In the process of ridiculing him, some simply gave a specific name to the disinfectant. Bleach. But your missing a very important point here. It’s not that he said disinfectant instead of bleach. If trump would have kept his mouth shut and not talked about stuff he doesn’t understand there would have been no discussion as to whether he said “disinfectant “ or “bleach” or any discussion about the hair brain comment he made in the first place. And that would have been a good thing all away around if had just kept his mouth shut. The job of the media is to report the news. They do this by repeating (or reporting) what trump said and by showing videos of him saying it. Just exactly how is that “influencing” people? The media, with the exception of Fox News maybe, didn’t come out and say “yeah trump’s right, we should call the virus “China Virus” or ”Kung flu”. They simply reported what he said and backed it up with video of him saying it. So just exactly how is that “influencing “.
trump, as President of the United States, was the originator of the term “China Virus” as such he is responsible for the fallout from using that term. Not the press for simply reporting it. As such he is solely responsible for the attacks on members of the Asian Community. They simply reported what he said and backed it up with video of him saying it. So just exactly how is that “influencing “. They did more than just report that he said it. THEY said it all on their own in contexts that had absolutely nothing to do with Trump saying it. You did not answer the question. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 14, 2021 19:02:09 GMT
I am sorry you have so little joy in your life that you need to fixate on trying to defend the words of the FORMER president! pixiechickSo we've officially moved on to the 'You have backed up all of your opinions with the facts you base them on, you have undeniably disproven all of the claims that you got it wrong, so all we have left is personal attacks portion of the discussion.' As president, he had an obligation to call out the racism and anti - Asian violence but never did, "It's important that we totally protect our Asian community in the US and all around the world. They're amazing people and the spreading of the virus is not their fault, in any way shape or form. They are working closely with us to get rid of it. We will prevail together. It's very important." -Trump You did not answer the question. Yes, I did by showing that your statement that they were only reporting that he said, not saying it themselves, is completely and utterly false. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 14, 2021 19:10:58 GMT
I am sorry you have so little joy in your life that you need to fixate on trying to defend the words of the FORMER president! pixiechickSo we've officially moved on to the 'You have backed up all of your opinions with the facts you base them on, you have undeniably disproven all of the claims that you got it wrong, so all we have left is personal attacks portion of the discussion.' As president, he had an obligation to call out the racism and anti - Asian violence but never did, "It's important that we totally protect our Asian community in the US and all around the world. They're amazing people and the spreading of the virus is not their fault, in any way shape or form. They are working closely with us to get rid of it. We will prevail together. It's very important." -Trump You did not answer the question. Yes, I did by showing that your statement that they were only reporting that he said, not saying it themselves, is completely and utterly false. Not a personal attack by me.. I truly meant I was sorry . |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 14, 2021 19:11:13 GMT
I am sorry you have so little joy in your life that you need to fixate on trying to defend the words of the FORMER president! pixiechickSo we've officially moved on to the 'You have backed up all of your opinions with the facts you base them on, you have undeniably disproven all of the claims that you got it wrong, so all we have left is personal attacks portion of the discussion.' As president, he had an obligation to call out the racism and anti - Asian violence but never did, "It's important that we totally protect our Asian community in the US and all around the world. They're amazing people and the spreading of the virus is not their fault, in any way shape or form. They are working closely with us to get rid of it. We will prevail together. It's very important." -Trump You did not answer the question. Yes, I did by showing that your statement that they were only reporting that he said, not saying it themselves, is completely and utterly false. Not a personal attack by me.. I truly meant I was sorry . |
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Post by dewryce on Jul 14, 2021 19:14:57 GMT
I think it’s also important to note that the media may have used the terms Wuhan or China virus early on but most responsible journalists quickly shifted by sometime in March to Covid. Former still called it Kung Flu and China virus in June, maybe later. When the White House was questioned about the term, they just defended it and doubled down. www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-defends-trump-comments-on-kung-flu-coronavirus-testing-11592867688Former’s use of the words Kung Flu, China virus, China plague etc along with his tone, tenor and context were deliberate, intentional and calculated. His press secretary also echoed his words. He intentionally stoked anti-Asian hate and tapped into the stereotype of Asians spreading disease. He wanted to shift the blame to China and shift the attention away from his mishandling of the virus. As president, he had an obligation to call out the racism and anti - Asian violence but never did, only inflamed and encouraged it with his deliberate choice of words. The media’s use of the terms China virus or Wuhan virus were completely different. Just another false comparison and false equivalency- apples to oranges. Well said, I agree completely. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 14, 2021 19:31:02 GMT
As president, he had an obligation to call out the racism and anti - Asian violence but never did, "It's important that we totally protect our Asian community in the US and all around the world. They're amazing people and the spreading of the virus is not their fault, in any way shape or form. They are working closely with us to get rid of it. We will prevail together. It's very important.” -Trump Let’s compare that to what President Biden said after 6 Asian Americans were murdered in Atlanta and the actions he took. Which sounds like a stronger condemnation? www.npr.org/2021/03/30/982736783/biden-announces-new-steps-to-tackle-anti-asian-violence-and-discrimination"As President Biden said during his first prime time address, anti-Asian violence and xenophobia is wrong, it's un-American, and it must stop." www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/03/30/fact-sheet-president-biden-announces-additional-actions-to-respond-to-anti-asian-violence-xenophobia-and-bias/ “Too many Asian Americans have been walking up and down the streets and worrying, waking up each morning the past year feeling their safety and the safety of their loved ones are at stake. They’ve been attacked, blamed, scapegoated, and harassed. They’ve been verbally assaulted, physically assaulted, killed… The conversation we had today with the AAPI leaders, and that we’re hearing all across the country, is that hate and violence often hide in plain sight. And it’s often met with silence. That’s been true throughout our history, but that has to change — because our silence is complicity. We cannot be complicit. We have to speak out. We have to act.” – President Joe Biden, March 19, 2021 And don’t forget that Trump may have said that but he also continued to refer to covid as the China Virus and kung Flu Virus. The tone, tenor and context of how he said it was clearly racist. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 14, 2021 19:41:05 GMT
So we've officially moved on to the 'You have backed up all of your opinions with the facts you base them on, you have undeniably disproven all of the claims that you got it wrong, so all we have left is personal attacks portion of the discussion.' "It's important that we totally protect our Asian community in the US and all around the world. They're amazing people and the spreading of the virus is not their fault, in any way shape or form. They are working closely with us to get rid of it. We will prevail together. It's very important." -Trump Yes, I did by showing that your statement that they were only reporting that he said, not saying it themselves, is completely and utterly false. Not a personal attack by me.. I truly meant I was sorry . It was absolutely a personal attack because you have nothing left top continue your desperate need to prove me wrong. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 14, 2021 19:42:48 GMT
"It's important that we totally protect our Asian community in the US and all around the world. They're amazing people and the spreading of the virus is not their fault, in any way shape or form. They are working closely with us to get rid of it. We will prevail together. It's very important.” -Trump
www.npr.org/2021/03/30/982736783/biden-announces-new-steps-to-tackle-anti-asian-violence-and-discrimination"As President Biden said during his first prime time address, anti-Asian violence and xenophobia is wrong, it's un-American, and it must stop." www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/03/30/fact-sheet-president-biden-announces-additional-actions-to-respond-to-anti-asian-violence-xenophobia-and-bias/ “Too many Asian Americans have been walking up and down the streets and worrying, waking up each morning the past year feeling their safety and the safety of their loved ones are at stake. They’ve been attacked, blamed, scapegoated, and harassed. They’ve been verbally assaulted, physically assaulted, killed… The conversation we had today with the AAPI leaders, and that we’re hearing all across the country, is that hate and violence often hide in plain sight. And it’s often met with silence. That’s been true throughout our history, but that has to change — because our silence is complicity. We cannot be complicit. We have to speak out. We have to act.” – President Joe Biden, March 19, 2021 And don’t forget that Trump may have said that but he also continued to refer to covid as the China Virus and kung Flu Virus. The tone, tenor and context of how he said it was clearly racist. As president, he had an obligation to call out the racism and anti - Asian violence but never did, This is what you said. Let's not move the goal posts now. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 14, 2021 20:18:55 GMT
Fine, I will ammend what I wrote to say that Trump did not call out strongly enough the anti Asian violence nor did he actually do anything. In his statement, which by the way he obviously did not write (The use of accurate grammar and multi syllable words is not his style), he called Asian Americans amazing but never specifically called for the racism, discrimination and violence to stop. And he undermined his own statement by intentionally and deliberately calling it the Kung Flu virus. Again, the difference between what he said and what President Biden said and did is very clear to everyone except for you, apparently. It’s as simple as this - Trump is a racist, Biden is not. Missing the forest for the trees AGAIN.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 14, 2021 20:32:31 GMT
And no, if the vaccine had become available during the Trump admin and he had suggested a door to door campaign to get people vaccinated, I don’t think there would have been “a shitstorm of angry democrats.” hundreds... thousands? of the things that it's okay if you're a democrat -but if it's Trump... “a shitstorm of angry democrats”. *The left leaning media all called it the Wuhan Virus because it came from Wuhan, until Trump said it because it came from Wuhan and then magically it was racist. So, yes, I have no doubt there would have been “a shitstorm of angry democrats” if Trump had done it.
Your statement is inaccurate and incomplete. You’re making a false comparison and false equivalence based on a false premise. As we’ve already explained over and over again, Trump was not magically called a racist for his use of the word Wuhan virus. And no, there would not have been a shitstorm of angry Democrats despite your “facts”. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 14, 2021 20:42:47 GMT
And no, if the vaccine had become available during the Trump admin and he had suggested a door to door campaign to get people vaccinated, I don’t think there would have been “a shitstorm of angry democrats.” Based on hundreds... thousands? of the things that it's okay if you're a democrat -but if it's Trump... “a shitstorm of angry democrats”. *Trump calls for a peaceful protest to "make your voices peacefully and patriotically heard" and he's inciting violence. Maxine Waters calls for actual "harassment of political opponents" and it's excused as "just encouraging people to speak out" and "use their right to protest". I’m really not sure why I’m bothering to argue with you because it’s pointless. However, I really object to this statement. Just like former and Republicans, you are glossing over, whitewashing and rewriting history. Your statement is factually inaccurate and incomplete. Again, a false comparison and false equivalency based on a false premise. You cherry picked his speech and importantly, left out this significant statement from him inciting violence. "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore," For months before the election, months after the election and that day, Trump talked about how the election was rigged, stolen and fraudulent. Trump knew perfectly well that his supporters there on that day were absolutely convinced and passionately believed the Big Lie. Trump’s “peaceful protest” turned into a violent insurrection, not an accident nor a coincidence. Maxine Waters statement was not OK, it was condemned by many Democrats, but it did not lead to violence. www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trialeta - Many Americans watched the Jan 6 insurrection unfold in real time. The insurrectionists were Trump supporters, not antifa or tourists. They were armed and violent. This video gives a detailed timeline of the events leading up to the insurrection including Trumps' incitement of violence and a comprehensive look at the events that happened on the day. Definitely worth watching, even if it's from the radical left or "fake" media. www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0As part of a six-month investigation, The Times synchronized and mapped thousands of videos and police audio of the U.S. Capitol riot to provide the most complete picture to date of what happened — and why. Sorry to derail the thread. |
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 14, 2021 21:02:58 GMT
I am sorry you have so little joy in your life that you need to fixate on trying to defend the words of the FORMER president! pixiechickSo we've officially moved on to the 'You have backed up all of your opinions with the facts you base them on, you have undeniably disproven all of the claims that you got it wrong, so all we have left is personal attacks portion of the discussion.' As president, he had an obligation to call out the racism and anti - Asian violence but never did, "It's important that we totally protect our Asian community in the US and all around the world. They're amazing people and the spreading of the virus is not their fault, in any way shape or form. They are working closely with us to get rid of it. We will prevail together. It's very important." -Trump You did not answer the question. Yes, I did by showing that your statement that they were only reporting that he said, not saying it themselves, is completely and utterly false. Actually I don’t believe you did answer the question. So we are going to have to disagree on this. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 14, 2021 21:12:14 GMT
Dumb as a box of rocks!!?
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 15, 2021 3:27:34 GMT
Fine, I will ammend what I wrote to say that Trump did not call out strongly enough the anti Asian violence nor did he actually do anything. I can agree with that. It’s as simple as this - Trump is a racist, Biden is not. Nope, Biden is a racist too. To disagree with that you'd have to ignore all of the racist things Biden has said. |
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Post by sunshine on Jul 15, 2021 3:32:17 GMT
Biden absolutely is a racist.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 15, 2021 3:33:34 GMT
So we've officially moved on to the 'You have backed up all of your opinions with the facts you base them on, you have undeniably disproven all of the claims that you got it wrong, so all we have left is personal attacks portion of the discussion.' "It's important that we totally protect our Asian community in the US and all around the world. They're amazing people and the spreading of the virus is not their fault, in any way shape or form. They are working closely with us to get rid of it. We will prevail together. It's very important." -Trump Yes, I did by showing that your statement that they were only reporting that he said, not saying it themselves, is completely and utterly false. Actually I don’t believe you did answer the question. So we are going to have to disagree on this. You can disagree with the fact that I answered the question all you want. You're wrong. Let me say it again, so you can't miss it again... They simply reported what he said and backed it up with video of him saying it. So just exactly how is that “influencing “."They did more than just report that he said it. THEY said it all on their own in contexts that had absolutely nothing to do with Trump saying it." |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 15, 2021 3:38:19 GMT
Pastor prays for mercy after COVID outbreak at masks-optional summer camp: 'Lord, we didn’t want to be in the news’ John Wright July 14, 2021 The pastor of a Texas church publicly prayed for God to end COVID-19 after at least 125 children and adults contracted the virus at a student ministry camp, where masks reportedly were optional and most children were old enough to be vaccinated. "Lord, we didn't want to be in the news, at least not for this, maybe for serving or some extreme generosity, but not this," Pastor Bruce Wesley of Clear Creek Community Church said in a video posted online. "So we ask for your mercy. We ask for your healing for all of those who became sick with this virus and for their families who've have been caring for them as well. We pray for complete recovery so that people don't have any lingering effects, and we pray that you would put a stop to the spread of this virus." Clear Creek Community Church, in League City near Houston, was forced to cancel services for a second week after the outbreak of what is suspected to be the highly contagious Delta variant at the camp that ended June 27, the Christian Post reports. Last week, the church said in a statement it was experiencing a second wave of infections, after people who attended the camp brought the virus home to their families. While 125 attendees positive for COVID-19 after the camp, hundreds more are believed to have been exposed. Wesley previously said the church has practiced "strict safety protocols" since the start of the pandemic, but according to the New York Times, "As of early May, masks were 'optional in all areas,' according to the camp's website." The camp served children in grades six through 12, the NYT reported. "In this outbreak, at least as of now, it appears most of the people who have tested positive are old enough to be vaccinated," said Dr. Philip Keiser, interim head of the Galveston County Local Health Authority. www.rawstory.com/clear-creek-community-church-outbreak/ |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 15, 2021 7:36:59 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 15, 2021 19:41:10 GMT
I sure hope they don't run into someone like this!! An unvaccinated Trump supporter recently filmed herself throwing an epic temper tantrum after the cruise she was supposed to be on booted her off after she tested positive for COVID-19 TikTok user who goes by the name of Amethyst216 last week posted a video in which she documented what she said was an unjust removal from a Royal Caribbean cruise ship due to her positive COVID test. At the start of the video, she claims that she already had COVID once three months ago, which she says gives her "high positive antibodies." As the hazmat suit-clad ship workers tried to remove her and her luggage from the vessel, she grows more and more agitated and starts screaming at the top of her lungs. "I'm tired of Royal Caribbean telling me what I've gotta do when you've been f*cking lying to us!" she screamed. "They're f*cking lying!" In previous TikTok videos, Amethyst216 expressed her devotion to former President Donald Trump, including a video last year in which she donned a red MAGA hat and said that Trump "loves us and he proves it to us every single day." Ok now.... This is her tic Tok... The first 4 videos are her screaming rant about being kicked off the cruise.. they used hazmat suits, plastic bags etc ..😁 www.tiktok.com/@amethyst216?referer_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2Ftrump-supporter-meltdown%2F&referer_video_id=6982695336338885893&refer=embedwww.rawstory.com/trump-supporter-meltdown/ |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 15, 2021 19:43:19 GMT
TikTok user who goes by the name of Amethyst216 can't see the videos, but man... that woman has some crazy-looking eyes in the pic that's in the story!! |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 15, 2021 19:53:53 GMT
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 15, 2021 19:59:40 GMT
oh, THAT was all I needed to see of her. thanks. I think, lol. So she's saying that for some unknown reason, the Cruise Line FALSIFIED her covid test results... why the heck would they do that? they're out $$ by booting her off the ship, too! it doesn't benefit them! And the way she was complaining about her mask, 'they're sanitizing behind me which is ridiculous, and now I gotta wear THIS thing, and I can't even breathe...' You can tell she is / was a maskhole.
let me get out my tiny violin for ya, lady.
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 15, 2021 20:04:30 GMT
I sure hope they don't run into someone like this!! An unvaccinated Trump supporter recently filmed herself throwing an epic temper tantrum after the cruise she was supposed to be on booted her off after she tested positive for COVID-19 TikTok user who goes by the name of Amethyst216 last week posted a video in which she documented what she said was an unjust removal from a Royal Caribbean cruise ship due to her positive COVID test. At the start of the video, she claims that she already had COVID once three months ago, which she says gives her "high positive antibodies." As the hazmat suit-clad ship workers tried to remove her and her luggage from the vessel, she grows more and more agitated and starts screaming at the top of her lungs. "I'm tired of Royal Caribbean telling me what I've gotta do when you've been f*cking lying to us!" she screamed. "They're f*cking lying!" In previous TikTok videos, Amethyst216 expressed her devotion to former President Donald Trump, including a video last year in which she donned a red MAGA hat and said that Trump "loves us and he proves it to us every single day." Ok now.... This is her tic Tok... The first 4 videos are her screaming rant about being kicked off the cruise.. they used hazmat suits, plastic bags etc ..😁 www.tiktok.com/@amethyst216?referer_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2Ftrump-supporter-meltdown%2F&referer_video_id=6982695336338885893&refer=embedwww.rawstory.com/trump-supporter-meltdown/  |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 16, 2021 21:08:51 GMT
From your article: "She believes it’s their place to make decisions for their kids, not the government’s—especially when it comes to the Covid vaccine." I think she's right. With the issue of younger people having heart issues from the vaccine, a parent should be involved in helping with the decision to get the vaccine for their child. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 17, 2021 0:48:28 GMT
www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/17/1007447098/pfizer-covid-vaccine-teens-symptoms-myocarditisNaturally occurring heart inflammation is rare, but it does occur from time to time in teens and young adults. The rate seen after these vaccines is slightly higher than the "background" rate. The CDC says the findings do not change the basic recommendation that all people 12 and older should be vaccinated against COVID-19. However, if a person develops myocarditis after the first dose of one of the mRNA vaccines, a second dose should be delayed until the condition has fully resolved and the heart has returned to a normal state. So, should parents of teens hesitate to have their kids vaccinated against COVID-19? Vaccine experts and the American Academy of Pediatrics say no, don't hesitate. It's good for doctors and patients to be aware that there might be a connection between the mRNA vaccines and heart inflammation, and to report to their pediatrician anything they see in that first week after vaccination. But it is also important, the CDC notes, to recognize that even if this does turn out to be an extremely rare side effect of the vaccine, "most patients who received care responded well to medicine and rest and quickly felt better." And the serious risks of COVID-19 — even for young healthy people — outweigh the risks of any possible side effects from the vaccine.
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Post by Merge on Jul 17, 2021 1:12:32 GMT
www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/17/1007447098/pfizer-covid-vaccine-teens-symptoms-myocarditisNaturally occurring heart inflammation is rare, but it does occur from time to time in teens and young adults. The rate seen after these vaccines is slightly higher than the "background" rate. The CDC says the findings do not change the basic recommendation that all people 12 and older should be vaccinated against COVID-19. However, if a person develops myocarditis after the first dose of one of the mRNA vaccines, a second dose should be delayed until the condition has fully resolved and the heart has returned to a normal state. So, should parents of teens hesitate to have their kids vaccinated against COVID-19? Vaccine experts and the American Academy of Pediatrics say no, don't hesitate. It's good for doctors and patients to be aware that there might be a connection between the mRNA vaccines and heart inflammation, and to report to their pediatrician anything they see in that first week after vaccination. But it is also important, the CDC notes, to recognize that even if this does turn out to be an extremely rare side effect of the vaccine, "most patients who received care responded well to medicine and rest and quickly felt better." And the serious risks of COVID-19 — even for young healthy people — outweigh the risks of any possible side effects from the vaccine. I feel awful for the teens who want the vaccine but whose parents forbid it. There should be an avenue for them to go around their parents in that case. It’s like the parents who withhold chemo or antibiotics and try to cure their kids with prayer instead. Should be against the law. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 17, 2021 1:35:05 GMT
www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/17/1007447098/pfizer-covid-vaccine-teens-symptoms-myocarditisNaturally occurring heart inflammation is rare, but it does occur from time to time in teens and young adults. The rate seen after these vaccines is slightly higher than the "background" rate. The CDC says the findings do not change the basic recommendation that all people 12 and older should be vaccinated against COVID-19. However, if a person develops myocarditis after the first dose of one of the mRNA vaccines, a second dose should be delayed until the condition has fully resolved and the heart has returned to a normal state. So, should parents of teens hesitate to have their kids vaccinated against COVID-19? Vaccine experts and the American Academy of Pediatrics say no, don't hesitate. It's good for doctors and patients to be aware that there might be a connection between the mRNA vaccines and heart inflammation, and to report to their pediatrician anything they see in that first week after vaccination. But it is also important, the CDC notes, to recognize that even if this does turn out to be an extremely rare side effect of the vaccine, "most patients who received care responded well to medicine and rest and quickly felt better." And the serious risks of COVID-19 — even for young healthy people — outweigh the risks of any possible side effects from the vaccine. All of that information should be discussed between parent, child and their doctor. Who is it that's going to be giving these shots to the child without parental consent? I feel awful for the teens who want the vaccine but whose parents forbid it. There should be an avenue for them to go around their parents in that case. It’s like the parents who withhold chemo or antibiotics and try to cure their kids with prayer instead. Should be against the law. Being aware of problems with the vaccine's side effects on young people, knowing it's still in an experimental/emergency use stage or that the child already has the antibodies and it might not be worth the risk to inject what they already have into the child is NOT the same as relying on only prayer to heal. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 17, 2021 1:36:06 GMT
Oops, it was Tennessee
Tennessee had a policy(not sure it was law, I will go back and look) that 14 years old could get all vaccines, including Covid, with out parental permission. They have stopped the program for now. Measles, mump, Rubella etc ALL of them..
Five states — Alabama, Iowa, North Carolina, Oregon and Tennessee — either allow some ages in that group to consent for themselves or leave requirements up to individual vaccine providers.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 17, 2021 2:14:59 GMT
I feel awful for the teens who want the vaccine but whose parents forbid it. There should be an avenue for them to go around their parents in that case. It’s like the parents who withhold chemo or antibiotics and try to cure their kids with prayer instead. Should be against the law. Being aware of problems with the vaccine's side effects on young people, knowing it's still in an experimental/emergency use stage or that the child already has the antibodies and it might not be worth the risk to inject what they already have into the child is NOT the same as relying on only prayer to heal. "Natural immunity" from Covid is not better than the vaccine. www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/covid-natural-immunity.htmldirectorsblog.nih.gov/2021/06/22/how-immunity-generated-from-covid-19-vaccines-differs-from-an-infection/The hope is that acquired immunity from the vaccines will indeed produce long-lasting protection against SARS-CoV-2 and bring an end to the pandemic. These new findings point encouragingly in that direction. They also serve as an important reminder to r oll up your sleeve for the vaccine if you haven’t already done so, whether or not you’ve had COVID-19. Our best hope of winning this contest with the virus is to get as many people immunized now as possible. That will save lives, and reduce the likelihood of even more variants appearing that might evade protection from the current vaccines. www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.htmlImmunity from natural infection starts to decline after 6 to 8 months. We know that fully vaccinated people still have good immunity after a year—and probably longer. |
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