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Post by christine58 on Oct 6, 2021 16:30:50 GMT
I feel like there is no clear consensus on my question about one participant. Last year we had a similar (but different) situation and the participants were clear in their preference. This year not so much. For the time being (and subject to change depending on what more participants have to say) I will not do anything. I think that as a group, it would be helpful to formulate some guidelines for decision making in regards to peas who are not actively posting to the boards. Do you agree? If so, it would be lovely if someone else leads the brainstorming on that. Thank you! I also think that many who signed up might not see your question unless they check the thread. Honestly I only checked it because I saw you had made a post. Is it possible for you to send an email or tag those who signed up? My thoughts on the mystery pea: - As I write this, there are 40 members and 133 guests reading the board. I think most of the guests are members who don't bother to sign in and at least some are just lurkers.
- This person signed up 2 years ago to participate in a card swap. Sure, their history is limited on the board, but at least it is consistent. They didn't just sign up yesterday.
If getting a few cards with nice holiday greetings lures them into participating more on the board, I'm all for adding their name to this exchange.
[/ol] [/ul] [/quote] FYI I am signed in but I believe I am hidden or marked as a guest.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 6, 2021 16:55:55 GMT
I feel like there is no clear consensus on my question about one participant. Last year we had a similar (but different) situation and the participants were clear in their preference. This year not so much. For the time being (and subject to change depending on what more participants have to say) I will not do anything. I think that as a group, it would be helpful to formulate some guidelines for decision making in regards to peas who are not actively posting to the boards. Do you agree? If so, it would be lovely if someone else leads the brainstorming on that. Thank you! I also think that many who signed up might not see your question unless they check the thread. Honestly I only checked it because I saw you had made a post. Is it possible for you to send an email or tag those who signed up? I think I should make clear that (as posted in the first post of the thread) that: ”Please note that my involvement in our holiday card exchange is limited ONLY to collecting and organizing addresses and providing them to PEA participants. I’ll check to be sure that those who join in are still active members as well as not brand-new PEA members, nothing more. If there are concerns, they will be posted to this thread for us to decide on as a group.”I am not willing to field participant concerns via email or pea mail. If we are to discuss the card exchange and participants, I personally believe it should be done on this thread in order to promote transparency, which I think most, if not all, agree is important. I’m also not willing to take the time to look up and tag 45 peas in a thread. Now, that all said, I am very happy to turn over that part (vetting of participants) of the card exchange, or the entire card exchange to another pea who would like the exchange and discussions about it to be done differently. If you are, please let us know! No harm, no foul. At all. I promise!
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Post by christine58 on Oct 6, 2021 17:00:06 GMT
”Please note that my involvement in our holiday card exchange is limited ONLY to collecting and organizing addresses and providing them to PEA participants. I’ll check to be sure that those who join in are still active members as well as not brand-new PEA members, nothing more. If there are concerns, they will be posted to this thread for us to decide on as a group.”I am not willing to field participant concerns via email or pea mail. If we are to discuss the card exchange and participants, I personally believe it should be done on this thread in order to promote transparency, which I think most, if not all, agree is important. I’m also not willing to take the time to look up and tag 45 peas in a thread. Thanks for the reminder.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 6, 2021 17:03:08 GMT
”Please note that my involvement in our holiday card exchange is limited ONLY to collecting and organizing addresses and providing them to PEA participants. I’ll check to be sure that those who join in are still active members as well as not brand-new PEA members, nothing more. If there are concerns, they will be posted to this thread for us to decide on as a group.”I am not willing to field participant concerns via email or pea mail. If we are to discuss the card exchange and participants, I personally believe it should be done on this thread in order to promote transparency, which I think most, if not all, agree is important. I’m also not willing to take the time to look up and tag 45 peas in a thread. Not a problem..sorry I suggested it. Not at all. I’m sorry if it seems like I was down on it. I’m perfectly fine (it just doesn’t work for ME) as long as someone else wants to handle it!
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Post by christine58 on Oct 6, 2021 17:09:28 GMT
MichyM Wish there was an easy way for others to get their butts in here to answer...LOL
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Post by marysue63 on Oct 6, 2021 17:15:30 GMT
I signed up, thank you for organizing this. I hesitated but I need this opportunity to kick my creativity into gear.
As far as the 2 poster - I know I don't post much but only 2 times in 2 years? I say no.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 6, 2021 17:20:30 GMT
I just signed up! yay!! With our new address... we're moving halfway across the country at the end of October, and getting happy mail at our new house for the holidays will be nice. Making my own cards will be a good way to get me moving at unpacking my craft supplies, and having a max # of participants will keep it fun- and help keep me from feeling like it's a chore rather than a fun activity (this is solely my own hang up, I know). As for the question about the pea with only a couple posts- if the extent of this particular person's participation on the board is two posts, both from back in 2019, then I vote no, since there is no good way to verify participation / lack of bad intent. In general: I think the only thing you (general 'you') could do is review whether the person has logged in recently, if I follow lisae and other's posts correctly? I didn't know you could 'hide' your status so it wouldn't show if someone was logged in or not. I guess I never had a reason to want to do that myself, personally, so had no idea. Otherwise, I think the card swap criteria may need to be clarified for future years, to specify that a 'condition' of being an 'active pea' - to verify 'realnesss' is having a fairly recent post history, to show a person is actually *participating* rather than just being a more passive member?? (if that is the intent, to use 'realness' as a guard against someone phishing for personal information with nefarious intent.) Of course, if what I'm saying is way off base and doesn't line up with the 'spirit' of this card swap, then please disregard. (Obviously, if you look at my post count, I don't have any issue with posting lots of random posts, and I will sometimes post a reply on a thread even if someone else has already said almost the same thing, lol.)
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Post by Basket1lady on Oct 6, 2021 17:59:19 GMT
I also think that many who signed up might not see your question unless they check the thread. Honestly I only checked it because I saw you had made a post. Is it possible for you to send an email or tag those who signed up? I think I should make clear that (as posted in the first post of the thread) that: ”Please note that my involvement in our holiday card exchange is limited ONLY to collecting and organizing addresses and providing them to PEA participants. I’ll check to be sure that those who join in are still active members as well as not brand-new PEA members, nothing more. If there are concerns, they will be posted to this thread for us to decide on as a group.”I am not willing to field participant concerns via email or pea mail. If we are to discuss the card exchange and participants, I personally believe it should be done on this thread in order to promote transparency, which I think most, if not all, agree is important. I’m also not willing to take the time to look up and tag 45 peas in a thread. Now, that all said, I am very happy to turn over that part (vetting of participants) of the card exchange, or the entire card exchange to another pea who would like the exchange and discussions about it to be done differently. If you are, please let us know! No harm, no foul. At all. I promise! I find this reasonable. Those that respond will make the decision. You (or anyone else) can’t be responsible for those who don’t answer. I’ve been involved in a LOT of volunteer groups over the years. The lack of response isn’t new. Some people are busy, so don’t see it, some don’t care one way or the other so they don’t respond. It is what it is. Do we need to make the decision today? Do we need the addresses the first week of October? Perhaps you would like to just have the decision made, but I vote to wait a week or so and see if the mysterious Pea weighs in on her status. But that’s just my opinion!
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Post by lisae on Oct 6, 2021 19:02:31 GMT
I just signed up! yay!! With our new address... we're moving halfway across the country at the end of October, and getting happy mail at our new house for the holidays will be nice. Making my own cards will be a good way to get me moving at unpacking my craft supplies, and having a max # of participants will keep it fun- and help keep me from feeling like it's a chore rather than a fun activity (this is solely my own hang up, I know). As for the question about the pea with only a couple posts- if the extent of this particular person's participation on the board is two posts, both from back in 2019, then I vote no, since there is no good way to verify participation / lack of bad intent. In general: I think the only thing you (general 'you') could do is review whether the person has logged in recently, if I follow lisae and other's posts correctly? I didn't know you could 'hide' your status so it wouldn't show if someone was logged in or not. I guess I never had a reason to want to do that myself, personally, so had no idea. Otherwise, I think the card swap criteria may need to be clarified for future years, to specify that a 'condition' of being an 'active pea' - to verify 'realnesss' is having a fairly recent post history, to show a person is actually *participating* rather than just being a more passive member?? (if that is the intent, to use 'realness' as a guard against someone phishing for personal information with nefarious intent.) Of course, if what I'm saying is way off base and doesn't line up with the 'spirit' of this card swap, then please disregard. (Obviously, if you look at my post count, I don't have any issue with posting lots of random posts, and I will sometimes post a reply on a thread even if someone else has already said almost the same thing, lol.) You can't hide being logged in but you don't ever have to post. So someone could be logged in and looking at threads. You can only see when a person first registered and the last time they logged in - nothing in between. I agree that in future someone should have to be an active participant - that is posting regularly somewhere on the board. I don't think any of us would have expected someone to sign up who hadn't posted in years. Good luck on your move! Hope it goes smoothly.
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Post by hmp on Oct 6, 2021 19:07:24 GMT
I’m here almost daily, but rarely sign in. I only signed in yesterday & today after reading this update. That said, 2 posts seems too suspicious for my comfort level and I vote no. I suggest we follow 2peasrefugees precedent & adopt a minimum # of posts to participate, as is done on the FSOT board.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 19:32:57 GMT
Alright I will answer. I took a small break to decompress and destress so didn't see this until today.
I am torn on my feelings.
1. Some peas have multiple pea-sonalities and use lower count ones to be anonymous.
2. Some peas just don't like to post but know who we are, what our history is, and what goes on. So while not active, they are a pea.
3. With some past members creating conflict among ourselves and card groups, I would be weary of any potential issues.
4. We sign up bot knowing everyone. BUT I know those who have signed up because they post. When someone doesn't post, I don't "know" them kwim?!
So while I want to send cards to pea-ple, I don't know that I am comfortable with a non active user having my address.
Especially with things that have gone on and been said.
My comfort level may be different than others. But I don't want them to know where I live.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 6, 2021 19:43:07 GMT
I’m here almost daily, but rarely sign in. I only signed in yesterday & today after reading this update. That said, 2 posts seems too suspicious for my comfort level and I vote no. I suggest we follow 2peasrefugees precedent & adopt a minimum # of posts to participate, as is done on the FSOT board. that sounds like a good idea! not trying to be stalkerish, but since you wrote the post, I checked your 'recent posts' in your profile. It looks like you actually log in to post at least a few times a month, and have posted each of the past couple months... I would consider that an 'active' pea, even if it's not all that often, you do post, and the most recent times have been fairly recent. That, to me, is completely different than someone who hasn't posted at all in the past calendar year. I guess I never think about reading without being logged in- I typically log in so I can use the 'participated' button to see which threads I've posted in; that way I can read them more easily. I think there are also people who may log in, and stay logged in, for a loooong time. So even if the last time they logged in was 3 months ag, they're *still* logged in today? That might be another reason for eventually moving to some MINIMUM # of posts, or having posted fairly recently, like, say, sometime in the most recent 3 months, for example. If people know something like that was a requirement up front going forward, they can start posting a little more frequently right around the time of the holiday card swap, even if they *typically* read without posting. (and really, we're not that bad, lol! are we?? I used to be 'afraid' of the people who would post on NSBR on the old 2Peas site, but I think we're a pretty okay bunch of people with some good, useful info. Even myself... even though I used to not think so about myself. So if anyone reads but doesn't post because they think no one wants to read what they write, have you read some of the topics we post about? lol!! We'll talk about pretty much anything, including things as mundane as what to have for dinner, good brands of vacuums, movies, tv shows, dog and cat vomit, jello salads, potlucks, etc. So if anyone reads here without posting for whatever reason, I say, try it! we're not as bad as we look! lol!!)
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Post by kelly8875 on Oct 6, 2021 20:09:10 GMT
RE: Our mystery participant. I don't know. Without her? (is it a her?) posting somewhere on *This* 2Peas Message Board version (which has been around over 7 years), she remains a bit of a, well, mystery to us all. I'll make no assumptions about her intentions. Perhaps she has been reading here for ages and has participated in the past and feels like she "knows" us. Unfortunately, none of us can say the same with her having only 2 posts on this iteration of the 2Peas message board. So I vote a kindly no for this go around. I'm just seeing this today too, sorry. I agree. Kind of strange that in 2 years she hasn't posted. I think I'm a no also...
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Oct 6, 2021 21:31:10 GMT
FYI I am signed in but I believe I am hidden or marked as a guest. Same. Mine says I'm invisible.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Oct 6, 2021 21:33:58 GMT
You can't hide being logged in but you don't ever have to post. Yes, you can hide being logged in. First line under Privacy Settings says:
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Post by christine58 on Oct 6, 2021 21:43:09 GMT
You can't hide being logged in but you don't ever have to post. Yes, you can hide being logged in. First line under Privacy Settings says: That’s me! Invisible
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Post by Kerri W on Oct 6, 2021 22:36:59 GMT
So sorry. I've checked this thread a couple times randomly but don't check it regularly. I will check in more often.
I'm neutral and don't have strong feelings either way about the 2 poster. If it makes others uncomfortable, I think a minimum post count is a great idea.
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Post by paperaddictedpea on Oct 6, 2021 22:38:18 GMT
I’m a no regarding the participant in question. While it may well be that the person has a sincere interest in participating, I’m just not comfortable including someone that hasn’t posted at all in two years.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 6, 2021 22:46:59 GMT
I don't know what's invisible about it, exactly... but I can click on your profile and see that you've posted just today. I can also see what posts you've 'liked' and what threads you've posted in / started. So for you, christine58, your profile status shows that you last logged in during the year 2014... but I know that's not true, because you couldn't have posted this particular reply if you weren't logged in when you wrote it. To me, THAT-- posting and 'liking' things-- is what shows whether someone is an active pea or not. Not just 'logged in' vs. 'guest' status.
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Post by melodyesch on Oct 6, 2021 23:03:08 GMT
I would say no. I thought we had said something about having to be an active pea. And even if “active” was never quantified, 2 posts 2 years ago wouldn’t fit that. I feel a little bad, but that’s how I feel.
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Post by christine58 on Oct 6, 2021 23:23:40 GMT
I don't know what's invisible about it, exactly... but I can click on your profile and see that you've posted just today. I can also see what posts you've 'liked' and what threads you've posted in / started. So for you, christine58, your profile status shows that you last logged in during the year 2014... but I know that's not true, because you couldn't have posted this particular reply if you weren't logged in when you wrote it. To me, THAT-- posting and 'liking' things-- is what shows whether someone is an active pea or not. Not just 'logged in' vs. 'guest' status. It means my user name does not show as being on here. There’s a list at the bottom of the front page on my laptop. It shows whose here reading and guests. After my name it says “ invisible “.
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rodeomom
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Post by rodeomom on Oct 6, 2021 23:24:51 GMT
My vote would be no.
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Post by stormsts on Oct 7, 2021 0:07:45 GMT
Sorry, I am just now checking this thread. I am going to say no to the 2 post person.
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Post by freeatlast on Oct 7, 2021 1:37:23 GMT
I agree with the "no" on the mystery participant.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 7, 2021 3:26:49 GMT
I don't know what's invisible about it, exactly... but I can click on your profile and see that you've posted just today. I can also see what posts you've 'liked' and what threads you've posted in / started. So for you, christine58 , your profile status shows that you last logged in during the year 2014... but I know that's not true, because you couldn't have posted this particular reply if you weren't logged in when you wrote it. To me, THAT-- posting and 'liking' things-- is what shows whether someone is an active pea or not. Not just 'logged in' vs. 'guest' status. Down at the bottom of the main page, it says who is currently reading the board … if they are logged in and not invisible. I’m invisible, too, not because I particularly care who knows I’m here, but I guess I checked that box when we first started. I could uncheck it now, if I ever remember. ETA I should have read further before posting.
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Post by peasapie on Oct 7, 2021 15:10:37 GMT
I vote no for the 2-post person. Seems suspicious on the face of it, and why would someone who doesn't post want to exchange cards with us.
ETA: I only noticed there was a question here when I saw several new posts.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 7, 2021 15:20:30 GMT
Thank you all for the additional replies ❤️ I think it’s now pretty clear where participants as a whole sit on this.
I do think that after the holidays are officially over we’ll need to revisit and adopt some sort of “minimum participation standards” moving forward. So please start thinking about what would make you the most comfortable.
Thanks again 👍🏻
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Post by cycworker on Oct 8, 2021 1:11:52 GMT
I think that as a group, it would be helpful to formulate some guidelines for decision making in regards to peas who are not actively posting to the boards. Do you agree? If so, it would be lovely if someone else leads the brainstorming on that. Thank you! I do agree on that. I am very little help re: the current question, because I could go either way. Sorry.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Oct 9, 2021 0:29:08 GMT
I would also vote no on the person that doesn't participate here.
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Post by SnoopyFan on Oct 9, 2021 1:04:07 GMT
I, too, would vote no.
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