seaexplore
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Post by seaexplore on Jan 29, 2022 3:16:15 GMT
Your thought *should* be, “I guess they want me to mask up. Let me go get it and wear it to show I support them.” Well, that’s not going to happen 🤷🏻♀️ But, again, this whole situation isn’t going to happen here because it’s the social norm to not wear masks. Pealand is such an odd world. I rarely think or talk about Covid except here. It seems like a much bigger part of some people’s lives than it is mine. I’m glad I live somewhere that everything just seems normal and has for a long time. I don’t know anyone who had a serious case of Covid. I don’t know anyone who died from it or even was hospitalized with it. I don’t know people’s vax status. I don’t even know most of my family’s status. No one asks. No one talks about it. No one cares. I don’t have to show papers to go anywhere. I don’t have to wear a mask 99% of the places I go. I don’t argue with anyone about this stuff IRL because it just doesn’t come up. So when I see it here, I’m really, really glad I don’t live like that and I am way more upset by, bothered by, and afraid of the restrictions than I am of Covid. Yes. I know it’s not going to happen. You have shown us time and again that you think only of yourself and no one else matters to you.
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Post by PLurker on Jan 29, 2022 3:20:10 GMT
Almost two weeks ago, I was diagnosed with COVID. Even though I had a very mild case, I sat in the doctor’s office and cried. I wasn’t crying because I had COVID. I have been vaccinated and boosted so I was relatively confident that I would be ok. I cried because I had been around: *the teacher I work with who has a toddler that is too young to be vaxxed and a mom who has cancer *my friend whose mom is in a nursing home, and she can’t visit for a week because I may have exposed her *my daughter-in-law who is pregnant *my dh who is looking forward to visiting his parents, one of whom has cancer and the other has a heart condition and dementia *all of my students and co-workers It is beyond me how anyone can not worry about exposing anyone, let alone those people they care about. exactly. And my biggest fear, as I've mentioned before on this board, is either me giving it to someone else, especially my (adult) kids or even worse, my kids giving it to me. But again, not for my sake, but because they'd be devasted to pass it on to me. There'd be nothing to forgive them for as far as I'd be concerned. I know they take all the precautions but their forgiveness of themselves or undeserved guilt on some level, worries me.
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seaexplore
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Post by seaexplore on Jan 29, 2022 3:24:10 GMT
Almost two weeks ago, I was diagnosed with COVID. Even though I had a very mild case, I sat in the doctor’s office and cried. I wasn’t crying because I had COVID. I have been vaccinated and boosted so I was relatively confident that I would be ok. I cried because I had been around: *the teacher I work with who has a toddler that is too young to be vaxxed and a mom who has cancer *my friend whose mom is in a nursing home, and she can’t visit for a week because I may have exposed her *my daughter-in-law who is pregnant *my dh who is looking forward to visiting his parents, one of whom has cancer and the other has a heart condition and dementia *all of my students and co-workers It is beyond me how anyone can not worry about exposing anyone, let alone those people they care about. Thank you for thinking of others. I felt the same when I got it. When I realized it was Covid and not what I thought was allergies, I notified EVERYONE I had seen (I hadn’t been out shopping but was around extended family) for the entire week prior. It wasn’t fun telling them, I was mad that I had exposed them all. Thankfully all (except my kids who aren’t vaxxed, one of whom was asymptomatic for the most part and one who was negative) were vaxxed and boosted if of the age.
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Post by myshelly on Jan 29, 2022 3:26:07 GMT
And it’s baffling to me that you feel responsibility about germs. For someone who claims to support personal responsibility, you have not demonstrated any personal responsibility when it comes to covid mitigation measures. Maybe in your world view, personal responsibility could more accurately be described as freedom from responsibility Personal responsibility means I get to decide what my own comfort level is. Since I don’t feel very at risk as far as Covid, I don’t feel any responsibility to engage in any mitigation behaviors.
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Post by Merge on Jan 29, 2022 3:32:25 GMT
It’s the basic difference between left and right. The common good vs. the needs of me and mine only. She lives in a very red area. Her everyday experience is with people who only care for themselves. You can’t argue with people who have internalized the idea that no one matters but themselves. They can’t see that we all rely on each other for society to work. They can’t see that we rise and fall together. We’re fixing to fall. In my area this isn’t true. Political affiliation isn’t an indicator of mask wearing. It is honestly very perplexing to me. I have coworker that is very right (believes the election was stolen) but he is hard core into mask wearing. Another coworker that is extreme left refuses to wear one. A mom of one of dd’s classmates is (was?) very left and pre-Covid criticized Noem on everything. Now all she does is sing her praises. She is very vocal about the school better not have mask mandates or vaccine mandates. She is actually conspiracy believing crazy but yet she is a Democrat. I truly don’t understand it. Like I said it is very perplexing but at the same time very fascinating to me. Human behavior intrigues me and I just can’t figure this all out. That is not true here. You can spot the far right people a mile off by their lack of mask.
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 29, 2022 3:36:50 GMT
In my area this isn’t true. Political affiliation isn’t an indicator of mask wearing. It is honestly very perplexing to me. I have coworker that is very right (believes the election was stolen) but he is hard core into mask wearing. Another coworker that is extreme left refuses to wear one. A mom of one of dd’s classmates is (was?) very left and pre-Covid criticized Noem on everything. Now all she does is sing her praises. She is very vocal about the school better not have mask mandates or vaccine mandates. She is actually conspiracy believing crazy but yet she is a Democrat. I truly don’t understand it. Like I said it is very perplexing but at the same time very fascinating to me. Human behavior intrigues me and I just can’t figure this all out. That is not true here. You can spot the far right people a mile off by their lack of mask. Same here. Thank goodness. I like knowing who the hell to avoid because it is safe to assume they are not vaxxed either.
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Post by peano on Jan 29, 2022 3:40:45 GMT
Maybe they’re from a different are where mask wearing isn’t a “social norm.” There are LOTS of areas where masking wasn’t even the norm at the height of 2020, much less now. Here, at least, a church is the last place I would expect to see masks. I strongly associate the kind of people who go to church with the kind of people who don’t wear masks. I have a lot of friends who are really, really against mask wearing. Some decline invitations to anywhere that requires a mask. Some read the signs carefully and if the signs only say “recommended/requested/encouraged/etc.” or masks required for some guests and not others, they won’t wear a mask. Some won’t put on a mask unless approached by someone from the venue regardless of what the sign says. Some won’t put on a mask unless the venue provides masks. I’ll put on a mask only if a place says it’s “required” (no mandates here and there haven’t been mandates for a long time, most of the time I don’t even have a mask with me, only if I’m going somewhere I know it’s required). However, once inside if other people aren’t wearing them or if employees aren’t wearing them (and wearing them correctly), I’ll take it off. I wouldn’t have friends who are “really really” against mask wearing because I’m intolerant of blatant and selfish disregard of others and being willfully ignorant. Thank goodness we live in an area where most people care enough to wear masks. Which means people in many churches around here would be attending by zoom or wear masks. Are there exceptions? Absolutely! But the churches somewhat reflect the population. The pandemic has helped eliminate locations I’d not want to visit or retire to. Amen to that. DH wants to retire where taxes are low. I'm not moving to any red state. We are at an impasse.
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Post by katlady on Jan 29, 2022 3:47:05 GMT
Since I don’t feel very at risk as far as Covid, I don’t feel any responsibility to engage in any mitigation behaviors. Wow! Just wow!
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Post by peano on Jan 29, 2022 4:03:31 GMT
It’s the basic difference between left and right. The common good vs. the needs of me and mine only. She lives in a very red area. Her everyday experience is with people who only care for themselves. You can’t argue with people who have internalized the idea that no one matters but themselves. They can’t see that we all rely on each other for society to work. They can’t see that we rise and fall together. We’re fixing to fall. The difference is belief in personal responsibility versus belief in a nanny state. WTF are you talking about? I choose to look out for other people because it is the right thing to do, because we are all interconnected and we all matter. The government plays no role in my personal ethical belief system. Bless your little heart out there in rootin' tootin' Texas where it's all rugged individualism, and fake bravado shielding your inner terror faced by a world that's changing too fast for you.
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Post by Merge on Jan 29, 2022 4:09:21 GMT
I wouldn’t have friends who are “really really” against mask wearing because I’m intolerant of blatant and selfish disregard of others and being willfully ignorant. Thank goodness we live in an area where most people care enough to wear masks. Which means people in many churches around here would be attending by zoom or wear masks. Are there exceptions? Absolutely! But the churches somewhat reflect the population. The pandemic has helped eliminate locations I’d not want to visit or retire to. Amen to that. DH wants to retire where taxes are low. I'm not moving to any red state. We are at an impasse. Just remember that Texas is a big state. I'd have to drive across the equivalent of two or more east coast states to visit the place where myshelly lives. Harris County (in the city), Fort Bend County, Travis County, Bexar County, Dallas County (again, in the city) ... lots of people you'd love. (ETA: if you prefer to live in the desert in the middle of nowhere, Marfa/Alpine are nice and blue. Also El Paso. More mountains, slightly less nowhere.) Masks on the majority in public places. We are not all heartless, selfish people down here.
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Post by myshelly on Jan 29, 2022 4:50:06 GMT
The difference is belief in personal responsibility versus belief in a nanny state. WTF are you talking about? I choose to look out for other people because it is the right thing to do, because we are all interconnected and we all matter. The government plays no role in my personal ethical belief system. Bless your little heart out there in rootin' tootin' Texas where it's all rugged individualism, and fake bravado shielding your inner terror faced by a world that's changing too fast for you. I think that’s great and I don’t have a problem with people choosing to do what they think is right. I do have an issue with the government trying to mandate it in any way.
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Post by peano on Jan 29, 2022 5:03:46 GMT
Amen to that. DH wants to retire where taxes are low. I'm not moving to any red state. We are at an impasse. Just remember that Texas is a big state. I'd have to drive across the equivalent of two or more east coast states to visit the place where myshelly lives. Harris County (in the city), Fort Bend County, Travis County, Bexar County, Dallas County (again, in the city) ... lots of people you'd love. (ETA: if you prefer to live in the desert in the middle of nowhere, Marfa/Alpine are nice and blue. Also El Paso. More mountains, slightly less nowhere.) Masks on the majority in public places. We are not all heartless, selfish people down here. Yeah, sorry Merge. I almost amended my answer to apologize to you and the other Texans on the board who aren't lost causes. Apologies.
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Post by Jennifer C on Jan 29, 2022 5:10:36 GMT
I went to a school meeting with about 25 kids and parents. We were asked to wear masks when called and there were signs on the door. Maybe 4 or 5 people came in and didn't wear a mask. The lady in charge handed them some booklets she had on hand about illiteracy and classes they could take. When they took offense at that she said the notice she sent out had masks required or they could do zoom meetings. And that there were also signs on the door. They didn't acknowledge either of those so she thought they were illiterates. She did get some blowback but the principal backed her up, since it was a voluntary meeting that we didn't need to attend. If I attended your meeting I'd probably speak loudly about how sad it is that people are unable to read in this day and age. Jennifer I need a link to her amazon wish list because I would like to celebrate her. Unfortunately, she's no longer with the school. She and her hubby decided to retire and move to Florida and now work with Disney and their college program. But I agree, she is amazing! Jennifer
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 29, 2022 5:26:26 GMT
So what…you are still vulnerable. Even if it is 25%. And how do you know that you aren’t being infected by someone who is vaxed and masked. It really makes no difference.
This is illogical. You could still die in a car accident while wearing a seat belt, so you shouldn't wear one, then? Sigh. I just can't even with this kind of nonsense anymore. My wearing a seatbelt doesn’t protect you from death. ACTUALLY, it does. If you are wearing a seatbelt and begin to lose control of your car, the seatbelt keeps you in front of the steering wheel, where you are more likely to be able to regain control of the vehicle, and not crash into me. That is the only question I got wrong on my written test for my driver’s license, and I’ve never forgotten it.
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Post by maryannscraps on Jan 29, 2022 9:56:35 GMT
For someone who claims to support personal responsibility, you have not demonstrated any personal responsibility when it comes to covid mitigation measures. Maybe in your world view, personal responsibility could more accurately be described as freedom from responsibility Personal responsibility means I get to decide what my own comfort level is. Since I don’t feel very at risk as far as Covid, I don’t feel any responsibility to engage in any mitigation behaviors. Actually, although those feelings may seem valid to you personally, they are not true or real in evaluating a scientific phenomenon like the Covid virus. That's exactly why scientists and doctors use numbers and evidence to evaluate risk. Relying on luck is not logical at all. So keep on not engaging in mitigation, but don't try to call it anything but putting your feelings ahead of the facts. Like I keep saying, critical thinking skills are important in life.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 10:52:20 GMT
I think, there's another one without any skill in critical thinking. Masks are very effective against both transmitting and being infected with the virus. And the math works -- if your mask is only 50% effective and the person you're with has one that's 50% effective, you've now both lowered your risk of infection by 75% by wearing them. Add in vaccines, boosters, and hand washing, and you have lowered your risk to very reasonable levels. Scientific evidence. Not fear. But there seem to be a lot of people who are pretty ignorant about what scientific evidence and math entail. 50% effective is not effective at all. So masks are not very effective if it’s only 50% effective. You will still have a 50% chance of getting it. I don’t understand your math at all. Maybe a visual explanation will make it easier to understand rather than the maths. It's all about airborne transmission risk which obviously wearing a mask will, to a certain extent, contain that transmission and in turn lowers the risk . No one i saying that wearing a mask is 100% effective but surely you can see that together with washing/sanitizing your hands and keeping your distance does contribute to a much lower risk of catching any virus, not just covid.
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Post by cindosha on Jan 29, 2022 13:11:51 GMT
Almost two weeks ago, I was diagnosed with COVID. Even though I had a very mild case, I sat in the doctor’s office and cried. I wasn’t crying because I had COVID. I have been vaccinated and boosted so I was relatively confident that I would be ok. I cried because I had been around: *the teacher I work with who has a toddler that is too young to be vaxxed and a mom who has cancer *my friend whose mom is in a nursing home, and she can’t visit for a week because I may have exposed her *my daughter-in-law who is pregnant *my dh who is looking forward to visiting his parents, one of whom has cancer and the other has a heart condition and dementia *all of my students and co-workers It is beyond me how anyone can not worry about exposing anyone, let alone those people they care about. exactly. And my biggest fear, as I've mentioned before on this board, is either me giving it to someone else, especially my (adult) kids or even worse, my kids giving it to me. But again, not for my sake, but because they'd be devasted to pass it on to me. There'd be nothing to forgive them for as far as I'd be concerned. I know they take all the precautions but their forgiveness of themselves or undeserved guilt on some level, worries me. This just reiterates my point that no matter what precautions anyone takes, you can still give it snd get it. If I am masked and vaxed and I still get it, anyone I came in contact with BEFORE I knew I had it could get it from me. That could be dozens and dozens of people. There is no control over this virus. Like it or not, we are all going to have to learn how to live with it until the variants become less aggressive or die down or out.
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Post by peasapie on Jan 29, 2022 13:28:48 GMT
exactly. And my biggest fear, as I've mentioned before on this board, is either me giving it to someone else, especially my (adult) kids or even worse, my kids giving it to me. But again, not for my sake, but because they'd be devasted to pass it on to me. There'd be nothing to forgive them for as far as I'd be concerned. I know they take all the precautions but their forgiveness of themselves or undeserved guilt on some level, worries me. This just reiterates my point that no matter what precautions anyone takes, you can still give it snd get it. If I am masked and vaxed and I still get it, anyone I came in contact with BEFORE I knew I had it could get it from me. That could be dozens and dozens of people. There is no control over this virus. Like it or not, we are all going to have to learn how to live with it until the variants become less aggressive or die down or out. If you are masked and vaxxed you are MUCH less likely to transmit it. That’s the point - and how hard is this to understand? The selfishness of people who don’t give a crap about how they are taxing our hospitals and medical systems is astonishing to me. My anti vaxxer BIL had no problem running his scared little arse to an over crowded hospital for an infusion, the same hospital that had to delay other people’s treatments because this loser didn’t care about anyone but himself. Have some compassion for your fellow humans OR suck it up and take the consequences — don’t go running to the hospital when you get it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 13:47:24 GMT
It’s the basic difference between left and right. The common good vs. the needs of me and mine only. She lives in a very red area. Her everyday experience is with people who only care for themselves. You can’t argue with people who have internalized the idea that no one matters but themselves. They can’t see that we all rely on each other for society to work. They can’t see that we rise and fall together. We’re fixing to fall. The difference is belief in personal responsibility versus belief in a nanny state. Hasn't that nanny state given you free access to a vaccine that goes a long way to protect your health ? I'm assuming you took them up on their offer.
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Post by mikklynn on Jan 29, 2022 13:48:03 GMT
Like this? “I’m a selfish asshole who doesn’t like masks, and I don’t care about anybody but me. So eff these people-I’m not wearing one! And if anybody says anything to me, I will have a giant tantrum. I might even lie down on the floor and kick my legs like a toddler. And I know how to act like a toddler.” Yeah, that!
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Post by Merge on Jan 29, 2022 14:44:58 GMT
The difference is belief in personal responsibility versus belief in a nanny state. Hasn't that nanny state given you free access to a vaccine that goes a long way to protect your health ? I'm assuming you took them up on their offer. I think it’s safe to assume she did not.
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Post by katlady on Jan 29, 2022 16:14:04 GMT
There is no control over this virus. Like it or not, we are all going to have to learn how to live with it until the variants become less aggressive or die down or out. And that is what a lot of us is trying to do, live with it by taking precautions (masks, vaccines, etc).
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Post by seaexplore on Jan 29, 2022 16:16:55 GMT
For someone who claims to support personal responsibility, you have not demonstrated any personal responsibility when it comes to covid mitigation measures. Maybe in your world view, personal responsibility could more accurately be described as freedom from responsibility Personal responsibility means I get to decide what my own comfort level is. Since I don’t feel very at risk as far as Covid, I don’t feel any responsibility to engage in any mitigation behaviors. I'm not usually a mean and spiteful person but I hope you get COVID and you get really sick from it. This virus is no joke. It's not something that you shouldn't ever think about. I realize that you are in an area that doesn't take Covid seriously. I have siblings who live in Texas as well. It does exist there believe it or not. People ARE getting sick from it. People ARE dying from it. People ARE taking needed hospital space from non Covid people. I just can't with you and your self serving behaviors. Think past the end of your self centered nose once in a while.
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 29, 2022 16:23:34 GMT
Hasn't that nanny state given you free access to a vaccine that goes a long way to protect your health ? I'm assuming you took them up on their offer. I think it’s safe to assume she did not. I actually would think she did. It fits her personality: “Me first” but when it comes down to being slightly inconvenienced for the benefit of others, she’s gonna claim personal freedom and hysteria of others. Kinda like all of the Republican politicians who refuse to wear a mask publicly but were the first to get the vaccine.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 29, 2022 16:50:52 GMT
Let's say you walked into an indoor space that you were about to share with 100-150 other people for the next hour. Large space but not big enough for "social distancing." At least 95% of those present are wearing masks. Let's also say the room is a church, there are signs on the doors asking everyone to wear a mask, and there are baskets of masks available if you don't have your own. What would be going through your head that would justify you NOT putting one on? This is really more of a vent than an actual question. But I just don't get it... SMH I had an opposite experience in December. Walked into a church funeral (I HAD to attend) and while there were baskets of masks and signs in doors, about half was wearing one. Go to the luncheon following, my hubby and I, and a cousin and their spouse were the only 4 out of a room of over 60-75 who had masks on.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jan 29, 2022 17:13:54 GMT
exactly. And my biggest fear, as I've mentioned before on this board, is either me giving it to someone else, especially my (adult) kids or even worse, my kids giving it to me. But again, not for my sake, but because they'd be devasted to pass it on to me. There'd be nothing to forgive them for as far as I'd be concerned. I know they take all the precautions but their forgiveness of themselves or undeserved guilt on some level, worries me. This just reiterates my point that no matter what precautions anyone takes, you can still give it snd get it. If I am masked and vaxed and I still get it, anyone I came in contact with BEFORE I knew I had it could get it from me. That could be dozens and dozens of people. There is no control over this virus. Like it or not, we are all going to have to learn how to live with it until the variants become less aggressive or die down or out. Control? -To your first point, of course you can still transmit masked. Nobody ever said you couldn’t. Masks (and air quality and distance) lessens chances of transmission. That’s control, unless your requirement is total control and will reject anything that doesn’t achieve it. -To your last point, “learning how to live witt Covid” will be vastly more successful with precautions and vaccines and treatments. Learning to live with (sexual transmission of) HIV - at one point - solely meant condoms (or abstinence), and now prevention is still based on condom usage or exclusive sexual relationships. Good thing everybody didn’t take the stance that lack of total control meant no effort.
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 29, 2022 18:40:40 GMT
It’s the basic difference between left and right. The common good vs. the needs of me and mine only. She lives in a very red area. Her everyday experience is with people who only care for themselves. You can’t argue with people who have internalized the idea that no one matters but themselves. They can’t see that we all rely on each other for society to work. They can’t see that we rise and fall together. We’re fixing to fall. In my area this isn’t true. Political affiliation isn’t an indicator of mask wearing. It is honestly very perplexing to me. I have coworker that is very right (believes the election was stolen) but he is hard core into mask wearing. Another coworker that is extreme left refuses to wear one. A mom of one of dd’s classmates is (was?) very left and pre-Covid criticized Noem on everything. Now all she does is sing her praises. She is very vocal about the school better not have mask mandates or vaccine mandates. She is actually conspiracy believing crazy but yet she is a Democrat. I truly don’t understand it. Like I said it is very perplexing but at the same time very fascinating to me. Human behavior intrigues me and I just can’t figure this all out. Good lord, there is more than one “MyShelley” type out there? That alone is an awful thought. 😵💫
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Post by myshelly on Jan 29, 2022 18:55:23 GMT
In my area this isn’t true. Political affiliation isn’t an indicator of mask wearing. It is honestly very perplexing to me. I have coworker that is very right (believes the election was stolen) but he is hard core into mask wearing. Another coworker that is extreme left refuses to wear one. A mom of one of dd’s classmates is (was?) very left and pre-Covid criticized Noem on everything. Now all she does is sing her praises. She is very vocal about the school better not have mask mandates or vaccine mandates. She is actually conspiracy believing crazy but yet she is a Democrat. I truly don’t understand it. Like I said it is very perplexing but at the same time very fascinating to me. Human behavior intrigues me and I just can’t figure this all out. Good lord, there is more than one “MyShelley” type out there? That alone is an awful thought. 😵💫 Lol, I may be one of few voices here, but in the country as a whole it’s about half and half.
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Post by cindosha on Jan 29, 2022 19:00:54 GMT
This just reiterates my point that no matter what precautions anyone takes, you can still give it snd get it. If I am masked and vaxed and I still get it, anyone I came in contact with BEFORE I knew I had it could get it from me. That could be dozens and dozens of people. There is no control over this virus. Like it or not, we are all going to have to learn how to live with it until the variants become less aggressive or die down or out. Control? -To your first point, of course you can still transmit masked. Nobody ever said you couldn’t. Masks (and air quality and distance) lessens chances of transmission. That’s control, unless your requirement is total control and will reject anything that doesn’t achieve it. -To your last point, “learning how to live witt Covid” will be vastly more successful with precautions and vaccines and treatments. Learning to live with (sexual transmission of) HIV - at one point - solely meant condoms (or abstinence), and now prevention is still based on condom usage or exclusive sexual relationships. Good thing everybody didn’t take the stance that lack of total control meant no effort. I can say with absolute certainty that I will not wear a mask everywhere I go for the rest of my life. Or even the next 1, 2 or 5 years.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jan 29, 2022 19:22:37 GMT
Control? -To your first point, of course you can still transmit masked. Nobody ever said you couldn’t. Masks (and air quality and distance) lessens chances of transmission. That’s control, unless your requirement is total control and will reject anything that doesn’t achieve it. -To your last point, “learning how to live witt Covid” will be vastly more successful with precautions and vaccines and treatments. Learning to live with (sexual transmission of) HIV - at one point - solely meant condoms (or abstinence), and now prevention is still based on condom usage or exclusive sexual relationships. Good thing everybody didn’t take the stance that lack of total control meant no effort. I can say with absolute certainty that I will not wear a mask everywhere I go for the rest of my life. Or even the next 1, 2 or 5 years. No doubt. You’ve made it clear that no precaution, however short or long, is acceptable to your personal ethos. And no precaution is relevant to your sense of the greater good as you’re fundamentally lacking that context. Just wait it out. We’ll lose what we lose. They’ll lose what they lose.
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