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Post by cindosha on Jan 29, 2022 19:43:26 GMT
I can say with absolute certainty that I will not wear a mask everywhere I go for the rest of my life. Or even the next 1, 2 or 5 years. No doubt. You’ve made it clear that no precaution, however short or long, is acceptable to your personal ethos. And no precaution is relevant to your sense of the greater good as you’re fundamentally lacking that context. Just wait it out. We’ll lose what we lose. They’ll lose what they lose. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 |
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Post by seaexplore on Jan 29, 2022 20:04:15 GMT
I really wish selfishness, stupidity, and self centered behavior hurt.
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Post by lucyg on Jan 29, 2022 21:22:29 GMT
I don’t think she understands the word “prevent,” either. Not providing 100% protection isn’t the same thing at all as providing NO protection. The masks certainly do prevent a great deal of spread. So, cindosha , you are dead wrong when you say masks don’t offer protection. And the omicron variant may be less deadly overall, but it’s infecting so many more people that large numbers are still dying of it. This just seems to make you happy, as far as I can tell. I said that my wearing a mask will not stop you from getting Covid. I also said that masked vaxed and boosted does not stop spreading it to or getting it from someone who is masked vaxed and boosted. It actually makes me sad. You can keep saying the same misleading things over and over again, but it doesn’t make it true. Your wearing a mask reduces my chance of getting COVID from you, whether or not I’m wearing a mask. “Masked vaxed and boosted” reduces the spread greatly, whether you like that answer or not. Per the actual experts, not what Fox News told you. I think you’re having too much fun trolling the lefties to have the sadz. |
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Post by cindosha on Jan 29, 2022 21:26:41 GMT
I really wish selfishness, stupidity, and self centered behavior hurt. Look around you!! Tv actors, movie actors, politicians, restaurants, athletes, stadiums FULL to capacity, sideline sports……hundreds of thousands are maskless every day. It’s a fact of life. There are always going to be some who are going to wear 6 masks in a car by themselves and there are always going to go against the current and not mask. People are desperate to get back to normal. You think you can shame people into “your way or the highway” thinking You are not going to be able to shame everyone into your viewpoint. All you are going to do is piss people off, lose friends and family and end up miserable. I have never wished death, pain or suffering on anyone who is vaxed and/or masked. Or not vaxed or masked for that matter. But that seems to be a recurring theme on this board. I’ve seen plenty of you on this board cheer dozens of times when someone dies of covid who doesn’t align with your thinking. Everyone will get covid eventually. EVERYONE. A lot of people have come to terms with that fact. And they are choosing to live their life their way. So you can continue to try and shame people all you want. It will be a futile effort. |
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Post by Merge on Jan 29, 2022 22:29:38 GMT
I had the pleasure of watching an unmasked woman be asked to leave Homegoods today. She was big mad, but she left.
No, we can’t shame people into doing the right thing. Some people simply have no shame. But we don’t need to tolerate those who are selfish and careless in public spaces.
Perhaps we will all get Covid. But we don’t need to get it all at once. We don’t need to so overwhelm the hospitals that non-Covid patients lose out on care they need. It’s such a minor inconvenience to assist with that goal. But any inconvenience is too much for some.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 29, 2022 22:52:39 GMT
I had the pleasure of watching an unmasked woman be asked to leave Homegoods today. She was big mad, but she left. No, we can’t shame people into doing the right thing. Some people simply have no shame. But we don’t need to tolerate those who are selfish and careless in public spaces. Perhaps we will all get Covid. But we don’t need to get it all at once. We don’t need to so overwhelm the hospitals that non-Covid patients lose out on care they need. It’s such a minor inconvenience to assist with that goal. But any inconvenience is too much for some.Yes, this. 100% this. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 23:03:02 GMT
Your thought *should* be, “I guess they want me to mask up. Let me go get it and wear it to show I support them.” Well, that’s not going to happen 🤷🏻♀️ But, again, this whole situation isn’t going to happen here because it’s the social norm to not wear masks. Pealand is such an odd world. I rarely think or talk about Covid except here. It seems like a much bigger part of some people’s lives than it is mine. I’m glad I live somewhere that everything just seems normal and has for a long time. I don’t know anyone who had a serious case of Covid. I don’t know anyone who died from it or even was hospitalized with it. I don’t know people’s vax status. I don’t even know most of my family’s status. No one asks. No one talks about it. No one cares. I don’t have to show papers to go anywhere. I don’t have to wear a mask 99% of the places I go. I don’t argue with anyone about this stuff IRL because it just doesn’t come up. So when I see it here, I’m really, really glad I don’t live like that and I am way more upset by, bothered by, and afraid of the restrictions than I am of Covid. Pealand is an odd world to you because you live in your own Covid denying bubble. Or your own bubble within the texas bubble. Ignorance is bliss I suppose. When Covid started, Tarrant county was hit with the highest covid numbers, which included infections and deaths. While Dallas county was doing everything possible to slow down the spread, their neighboring county Tarrant, was doing NOTHING. Which gave Dallas a huge challenge. It's so simple, your actions (or inactions) affect your neighbors. But as shown by myshelly, some people simply do not care about their neighbors. Covid has truly drawn a line between the selfless and selfish. When I first moved to Texas I was in awe of the kindness offered to me by strangers. Now a decade later, I don't even recognize where I live. Trump brought out the worst in people and unfortunately many of them live in Texas. HOWEVER, I'd like to say that Texas is less red than people want to think. I live in a red city but I surround myself with people like me. Covid is still very much around us and we discuss it and wear our masks and do whatever it takes to protect others. With this latest round of Omicron I have seen many more people out and about wearing masks. So that gives me hope about humanity. |
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Post by cindosha on Jan 30, 2022 0:21:00 GMT
I had the pleasure of watching an unmasked woman be asked to leave Homegoods today. She was big mad, but she left. No, we can’t shame people into doing the right thing. Some people simply have no shame. But we don’t need to tolerate those who are selfish and careless in public spaces. Perhaps we will all get Covid. But we don’t need to get it all at once. We don’t need to so overwhelm the hospitals that non-Covid patients lose out on care they need. It’s such a minor inconvenience to assist with that goal. But any inconvenience is too much for some. I have not been asked to show my vax card at even one place that I have gone to. And I shop at a lot of different places. No one has given me a second look about a mask either. We live rural but not in the sticks. And I shop in bigger cities. Maybe it’s different in super big cities. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 30, 2022 0:47:05 GMT
I had the pleasure of watching an unmasked woman be asked to leave Homegoods today. She was big mad, but she left. No, we can’t shame people into doing the right thing. Some people simply have no shame. But we don’t need to tolerate those who are selfish and careless in public spaces. Perhaps we will all get Covid. But we don’t need to get it all at once. We don’t need to so overwhelm the hospitals that non-Covid patients lose out on care they need. It’s such a minor inconvenience to assist with that goal. But any inconvenience is too much for some.This exactly. If you're not willing to wear a mask for others around you, consider wearing one to help health care providers who are overwhelmed and stressed. They've been dealing with this for 2 years now and hospital admissions are at an all time high. www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/01/29/1075871661/omicron-symptoms-treatment-hospitalOmicron has filled up U.S. hospitals with more COVID-19 patients than any other surge of the pandemic.
University of Virginia critical care physician Taison Bell says omicron is milder in the same way that a hurricane can be milder than a tornado: The tornado may cut a more destructive path with high-wind speeds, but the hurricane has a much bigger footprint.
"When you have so many more people who are being affected by the storm, you are still going to end up with an overwhelmed health care system," says Bell, who's an assistant professor of medicine at UVA. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 30, 2022 0:56:53 GMT
I really wish selfishness, stupidity, and self centered behavior hurt. Look around you!! Tv actors, movie actors, politicians, restaurants, athletes, stadiums FULL to capacity, sideline sports……hundreds of thousands are maskless every day. It’s a fact of life. There are always going to be some who are going to wear 6 masks in a car by themselves and there are always going to go against the current and not mask. People are desperate to get back to normal. You think you can shame people into “your way or the highway” thinking You are not going to be able to shame everyone into your viewpoint. All you are going to do is piss people off, lose friends and family and end up miserable. I have never wished death, pain or suffering on anyone who is vaxed and/or masked. Or not vaxed or masked for that matter. But that seems to be a recurring theme on this board. I’ve seen plenty of you on this board cheer dozens of times when someone dies of covid who doesn’t align with your thinking. Everyone will get covid eventually. EVERYONE. A lot of people have come to terms with that fact. And they are choosing to live their life their way. So you can continue to try and shame people all you want. It will be a futile effort. Speaking for myself, my issue and anger with unvaccinated people is based on the fact that so many of them are taking most of the space in hospitals, and nobody else can be helped/assisted in a timely fashion. My friend’s mom is 92. She has congestive heart failure and was in a-fib. She spent a day in a corridor this week because the hospital is overcrowded with unvaccinated types. So yeah, I AM angry. This is happening all over the country, and it’s crap.I don’t care if you are unvaccinated or not, but I am furious that the unvaccinated are hogging spaces in hospitals. |
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 30, 2022 3:11:36 GMT
Look around you!! Tv actors, movie actors, politicians, restaurants, athletes, stadiums FULL to capacity, sideline sports……hundreds of thousands are maskless every day. It’s a fact of life. There are always going to be some who are going to wear 6 masks in a car by themselves and there are always going to go against the current and not mask. People are desperate to get back to normal. You think you can shame people into “your way or the highway” thinking You are not going to be able to shame everyone into your viewpoint. All you are going to do is piss people off, lose friends and family and end up miserable. I have never wished death, pain or suffering on anyone who is vaxed and/or masked. Or not vaxed or masked for that matter. But that seems to be a recurring theme on this board. I’ve seen plenty of you on this board cheer dozens of times when someone dies of covid who doesn’t align with your thinking. Everyone will get covid eventually. EVERYONE. A lot of people have come to terms with that fact. And they are choosing to live their life their way. So you can continue to try and shame people all you want. It will be a futile effort. Speaking for myself, my issue and anger with unvaccinated people is based on the fact that so many of them are taking most of the space in hospitals, and nobody else can be helped/assisted in a timely fashion. My friend’s mom is 92. She has congestive heart failure and was in a-fib. She spent a day in a corridor this week because the hospital is overcrowded with unvaccinated types. So yeah, I AM angry. This is happening all over the country, and it’s crap.I don’t care if you are unvaccinated or not, but I am furious that the unvaccinated are hogging spaces in hospitals. Exactly. My MIL needs a major surgery and my dad’s wife needs a liver transplant and both keep getting delayed because the hospitals are full of covid patients. If you don’t want the vaccine because you are worried about it not being safe because The Pillow Guy and Joe Rogan tell you it is bad, then stay the hell away from the hospitals and take your horse dewormer and good luck to ya. |
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Post by Merge on Jan 30, 2022 3:18:44 GMT
I had the pleasure of watching an unmasked woman be asked to leave Homegoods today. She was big mad, but she left. No, we can’t shame people into doing the right thing. Some people simply have no shame. But we don’t need to tolerate those who are selfish and careless in public spaces. Perhaps we will all get Covid. But we don’t need to get it all at once. We don’t need to so overwhelm the hospitals that non-Covid patients lose out on care they need. It’s such a minor inconvenience to assist with that goal. But any inconvenience is too much for some. I have not been asked to show my vax card at even one place that I have gone to. And I shop at a lot of different places. No one has given me a second look about a mask either. We live rural but not in the sticks. And I shop in bigger cities. Maybe it’s different in super big cities. I live and shop mostly in a very blue part of large, blue city. Thank goodness. The fact that people in your area are giving you a pass on bad behavior does not make it good behavior. We teach the kids at my school that to be principled is to do the right thing even when you don’t have to. Clearly we’re just indoctrinating a bunch of soft lefties down here, with all that concern about integrity and doing the right thing for others as well as ourselves. Thank goodness. |
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Post by cindosha on Jan 30, 2022 3:40:29 GMT
Look around you!! Tv actors, movie actors, politicians, restaurants, athletes, stadiums FULL to capacity, sideline sports……hundreds of thousands are maskless every day. It’s a fact of life. There are always going to be some who are going to wear 6 masks in a car by themselves and there are always going to go against the current and not mask. People are desperate to get back to normal. You think you can shame people into “your way or the highway” thinking You are not going to be able to shame everyone into your viewpoint. All you are going to do is piss people off, lose friends and family and end up miserable. I have never wished death, pain or suffering on anyone who is vaxed and/or masked. Or not vaxed or masked for that matter. But that seems to be a recurring theme on this board. I’ve seen plenty of you on this board cheer dozens of times when someone dies of covid who doesn’t align with your thinking. Everyone will get covid eventually. EVERYONE. A lot of people have come to terms with that fact. And they are choosing to live their life their way. So you can continue to try and shame people all you want. It will be a futile effort. Speaking for myself, my issue and anger with unvaccinated people is based on the fact that so many of them are taking most of the space in hospitals, and nobody else can be helped/assisted in a timely fashion. My friend’s mom is 92. She has congestive heart failure and was in a-fib. She spent a day in a corridor this week because the hospital is overcrowded with unvaccinated types. So yeah, I AM angry. This is happening all over the country, and it’s crap.I don’t care if you are unvaccinated or not, but I am furious that the unvaccinated are hogging spaces in hospitals. How do you know it’s the unvaccinated taking up the space in hospitals? |
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Post by cindosha on Jan 30, 2022 3:43:03 GMT
Speaking for myself, my issue and anger with unvaccinated people is based on the fact that so many of them are taking most of the space in hospitals, and nobody else can be helped/assisted in a timely fashion. My friend’s mom is 92. She has congestive heart failure and was in a-fib. She spent a day in a corridor this week because the hospital is overcrowded with unvaccinated types. So yeah, I AM angry. This is happening all over the country, and it’s crap.I don’t care if you are unvaccinated or not, but I am furious that the unvaccinated are hogging spaces in hospitals. How do you know it’s the unvaccinated taking up the space in hospitals? It sounds like you do care if people are vaxxed or not. |
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Post by peano on Jan 30, 2022 4:12:22 GMT
Speaking for myself, my issue and anger with unvaccinated people is based on the fact that so many of them are taking most of the space in hospitals, and nobody else can be helped/assisted in a timely fashion. My friend’s mom is 92. She has congestive heart failure and was in a-fib. She spent a day in a corridor this week because the hospital is overcrowded with unvaccinated types. So yeah, I AM angry. This is happening all over the country, and it’s crap.I don’t care if you are unvaccinated or not, but I am furious that the unvaccinated are hogging spaces in hospitals. How do you know it’s the unvaccinated taking up the space in hospitals? Because every news story I read quotes medical personnel who say the people who are the most sick are disproportionately the unvaccinated. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 30, 2022 4:28:06 GMT
How do you know it’s the unvaccinated taking up the space in hospitals? Because every news story I read quotes medical personnel who say the people who are the most sick are disproportionately the unvaccinated. Yes, well, you would have to actually read or watch some of that evil main stream media (sarcasm alert) to see or hear any of those NEWS reports, which is also something the anti-vax, anti-mask crowd typically doesn’t do. ETA: I’m pretty sure none of that is ever covered on Faux “News” or OANN. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 30, 2022 4:29:02 GMT
Speaking for myself, my issue and anger with unvaccinated people is based on the fact that so many of them are taking most of the space in hospitals, and nobody else can be helped/assisted in a timely fashion. My friend’s mom is 92. She has congestive heart failure and was in a-fib. She spent a day in a corridor this week because the hospital is overcrowded with unvaccinated types. So yeah, I AM angry. This is happening all over the country, and it’s crap.I don’t care if you are unvaccinated or not, but I am furious that the unvaccinated are hogging spaces in hospitals. How do you know it’s the unvaccinated taking up the space in hospitals? Do you watch or read news other than Fox? Pick virtually any neutral or slightly left source and all of them have articles on the higher rates of hospitalizations among the unvaccinated and how hospitals are ICUs are filled with the vaccinated. To make it easy for you, here are just a few, some national, one local and state websites that track vaccinated vs unvaccinated hospitalizations. www.pbs.org/newshour/show/u-s-hospitals-buckle-under-latest-surge-of-covid-hospitalizationsunder-pressure-3Yes, a majority of — the vast majority of the patients who are either in the hospital or in the ICU are unvaccinated at this point. And that goes along the line of — with the national data.
If I remember correctly, I think our patients right now, more than 90 percent of the patients who are in the hospital right now with COVID are either unvaccinated or are partially vaccinated.time.com/6138566/pandemic-of-unvaccinated/www.nytimes.com/2022/01/11/briefing/omicron-deaths-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated.htmlcovid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#covidnet-hospitalizations-vaccinationcoronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-breakthrough-datawww.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdfwww.wmur.com/article/nearly-two-thirds-of-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-in-new-hampshire-unvaccinated-report-says/38628992#www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/01/29/1075871661/omicron-symptoms-treatment-hospital"If you look at the ones who're in the ICU or need to be on a ventilator, it's much more the unvaccinated," says Dr. Matthew Sims, director of infectious disease research at Beaumont Health in Michigan, where unvaccinated patients account for about two-thirds of hospitalizations.
Those numbers mirror the situation in many hospitals during the omicron surge, although the breakdown depends on the overall vaccination rates in a community.
Omicron even sickens some unvaccinated people who would otherwise not be considered high risk.
"If they're young or middle-aged and don't have a lot of underlying medical problems and they're in the ICU with COVID, I just kind of know they're going to be unvaccinated patients," says Bell.As of late December, hospitalizations for COVID-19 were 16 times higher among those who were unvaccinated compared with those who were vaccinated, according to the latest data from the CDC, which does not differentiate between delta and omicron cases. |
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Post by mammajamma on Jan 30, 2022 5:18:29 GMT
For all the peas who mask, whether required or voluntarily, do you continue to mask when vaccinated and also have gotten COVID both?
I live in oblivious north Texas and it’s very isolating to mask at social events where no one else is. I start to wonder how the people can be so selfish. But is there any consistency with the removing the mask at a certain point? I have not heard that, but perhaps this has been decided by the people.
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Post by seaexplore on Jan 30, 2022 5:38:06 GMT
For all the peas who mask, whether required or voluntarily, do you continue to mask when vaccinated and also have gotten COVID both? I am vaxxed not boosted and had Covid at Christmas. I still mask regularly when required and when “asked” but not required. I care about others. I also still have a nasty cough 6 weeks after being sick. |
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Post by Linda on Jan 30, 2022 5:54:53 GMT
For all the peas who mask, whether required or voluntarily, do you continue to mask when vaccinated and also have gotten COVID both? I live in oblivious north Texas and it’s very isolating to mask at social events where no one else is. I start to wonder how the people can be so selfish. But is there any consistency with the removing the mask at a certain point? I have not heard that, but perhaps this has been decided by the people. I live in oblivious north central Florida and while I don't attend social events, I'm often the only (or almost only) one masking at stores etc...and my daughter is definitely one of a very small minority masking at her high school. There are no requirements here. I'm vaccinated and boostered, DH and DD are vaccinated with booster appts scheduled. None of us have had covid even though more than 1 in 4 people in my area have - and about 1200 people/wk at this point are testing positive (that's over 1.5% of the population each week). I will keep wearing my mask until the pandemic is over - and quite honestly, I may keep wearing it during flu season going forward (and yes, I've had my flu shot also). I'm also staying home as much as possible and keep my distance from others as much as possible. It's best for ME if I don't catch covid (I'm higher risk) but it's also best for my family, friends, community for me to avoid catching and spreading it to them. Our hospitals are full - ICUs are between 98 and 100% and have been for months. I understand they don't agree for the most part but that doesn't mean I shouldn't keep doing my part. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 30, 2022 5:56:54 GMT
For all the peas who mask, whether required or voluntarily, do you continue to mask when vaccinated and also have gotten COVID both? I live in oblivious north Texas and it’s very isolating to mask at social events where no one else is. I start to wonder how the people can be so selfish. But is there any consistency with the removing the mask at a certain point? I have not heard that, but perhaps this has been decided by the people. I get that. Very few people here wear one. I do not care. I wear mine when I’m indoor and in public contact with them. *Because* very few people are wearing them. I will stop wearing one when cases are substantially down to a level I’m comfortable with, and hospitals are not in danger of being overwhelmed. |
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 30, 2022 6:56:07 GMT
I really wish selfishness, stupidity, and self centered behavior hurt. Look around you!! Tv actors, movie actors, politicians, restaurants, athletes, stadiums FULL to capacity, sideline sports……hundreds of thousands are maskless every day. It’s a fact of life. There are always going to be some who are going to wear 6 masks in a car by themselves and there are always going to go against the current and not mask. People are desperate to get back to normal. You think you can shame people into “your way or the highway” thinking You are not going to be able to shame everyone into your viewpoint. All you are going to do is piss people off, lose friends and family and end up miserable. I have never wished death, pain or suffering on anyone who is vaxed and/or masked. Or not vaxed or masked for that matter. But that seems to be a recurring theme on this board. I’ve seen plenty of you on this board cheer dozens of times when someone dies of covid who doesn’t align with your thinking. Everyone will get covid eventually. EVERYONE. A lot of people have come to terms with that fact. And they are choosing to live their life their way. So you can continue to try and shame people all you want. It will be a futile effort. Begging you to have some fucking humanity and decency isn’t trying to shame you. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 30, 2022 8:46:10 GMT
Speaking for myself, my issue and anger with unvaccinated people is based on the fact that so many of them are taking most of the space in hospitals, and nobody else can be helped/assisted in a timely fashion. My friend’s mom is 92. She has congestive heart failure and was in a-fib. She spent a day in a corridor this week because the hospital is overcrowded with unvaccinated types. So yeah, I AM angry. This is happening all over the country, and it’s crap.I don’t care if you are unvaccinated or not, but I am furious that the unvaccinated are hogging spaces in hospitals. How do you know it’s the unvaccinated taking up the space in hospitals? I am actually surprised by your question. Several people have already answered it. It has been mentioned in article after article. You obviously read, so I suspect that the reason that you haven’t come across that info is because conservative media isn’t mentioning it-at least not as often. Is that a fair statement? This is not a gotcha; I am genuinely interested. |
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Post by gar on Jan 30, 2022 9:53:15 GMT
How do you know it’s the unvaccinated taking up the space in hospitals? Because every news story I read quotes medical personnel who say the people who are the most sick are disproportionately the unvaccinated. Same in the UK. We see 'in depth' reports on the BBC etc where they go into a large hospital and walk through the ICU or High Dependency units and the doctor literally points to each bed saying "Unvaccinated...unvaccinated...unvaccinated..". It's pretty common knowledge. |
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Post by M~ on Jan 30, 2022 13:06:57 GMT
Yes I suppose I am angry. And guess what? That anger, it's actually not all about me. I rather get it (covid) than give it and am willing to do whatever to help others . I suppose that may be the difference between you and I. I actually feel sorry for you and your seemingly lack of empathy. It’s the basic difference between left and right. The common good vs. the needs of me and mine only. She lives in a very red area. Her everyday experience is with people who only care for themselves. You can’t argue with people who have internalized the idea that no one matters but themselves. They can’t see that we all rely on each other for society to work. They can’t see that we rise and fall together. We’re fixing to fall. This is American individualism to its logical conclusion, I’m afraid. However, these sorts of people expect the “community” to be there in times of need. Basically, Americans are spoiled. “I do whatever I want because I know there’s a social safety net that will protect me from the consequences of my own actions.” I would like to propose the following: let’s prioritize medical care for those who have been vaxxed and use masks. You don’t use masks and you’re not vaxxed? No problem. Go to the back of the line. I’m sick and tired of those of us who do the right thing being punished for those who don’t. Oh. And let’s not allow you to discharge your medical bills due to COVID in bankruptcy. Your choice after all. You know-I was born in Nicaragua and currently it’s one of the poorest countries in the world. You know what people are doing right now? They’re taking care of their community. They are getting vaxxed and they are wearing masks. Even the poorest people who live in shacks. Schools, churches, etc. You know why? There’s no social safety net. You get COVID you’re not going to have the benefit of cutting-edge technology to help you out. No ECMO machine is going to be there for you. Only the wealthy get good healthcare. And they charge in dollars not the local currency. And you pay out of pocket. What has COVID taught me: the US has worse than the so called third world country mentality. I would to see how you anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers would do in a situation where there is no nanny state as it were. You not wearing a mask is only the “impression” of freedom because everything else that matters is given to you. |
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Post by gar on Jan 30, 2022 13:46:03 GMT
It’s the basic difference between left and right. The common good vs. the needs of me and mine only. She lives in a very red area. Her everyday experience is with people who only care for themselves. You can’t argue with people who have internalized the idea that no one matters but themselves. They can’t see that we all rely on each other for society to work. They can’t see that we rise and fall together. We’re fixing to fall. This is American individualism to its logical conclusion, I’m afraid. However, these sorts of people expect the “community” to be there in times of need. Basically, Americans are spoiled. “I do whatever I want because I know there’s a social safety net that will protect me from the consequences of my own actions.” I would like to propose the following: let’s prioritize medical care for those who have been vaxxed and use masks. You don’t use masks and you’re not vaxxed? No problem. Go to the back of the line. I’m sick and tired of those of us who do the right thing being punished for those who don’t. Oh. And let’s not allow you to discharge your medical bills due to COVID in bankruptcy. Your choice after all. You know-I was born in Nicaragua and currently it’s one of the poorest countries in the world. You know what people are doing right now? They’re taking care of their community. They are getting vaxxed and they are wearing masks. Even the poorest people who live in shacks. Schools, churches, etc. You know why? There’s no social safety net. You get COVID you’re not going to have the benefit of cutting-edge technology to help you out. No ECMO machine is going to be there for you. Only the wealthy get good healthcare. And they charge in dollars not the local currency. And you pay out of pocket. What has COVID taught me: the US has worse than the so called third world country mentality. I would to see how you anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers would do in a situation where there is no nanny state as it were. You not wearing a mask is only the “impression” of freedom because everything else that matters is given to you. Powerful words. |
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