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Post by kokomo37 on Jun 24, 2022 1:53:10 GMT
I am a little confused. In previous posts you made comments , that you were not crazy about this job and it is way too far to be driving every day. I would totally be using this time to find a closer job and less stressful. It’s not like you can’t get another job but you only want to work under the table so there is no paper trail. That’s not being that honest at all. Basically it sounds like you are trying not to screw up your SS .Whould it not be less stressful to be up front, get a job at Starbucks which I believe gives you benefits, sick time etc. In the long haul it would be less stressful and less sneaky
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Post by christine58 on Jun 24, 2022 1:59:27 GMT
They are using you. They don’t care that you’ll be without pay. They don’t care that the child sleeps on you. You might think they’re really nice because of some of the things that they’ve done like keeping the job open while you were out, but they probably did that because they didn’t have anyone else to watch the 14-month-old who no offense needs some discipline. She needs to be sleeping in her own bed.
They see you as a servant nothing more otherwise they would’ve offered to give you some pay over the next six weeks. They know the situation you’re in. Think about that for a minute, they know that you rely on their money to pay your bills yet they’re looking for you to take six weeks off with no pay.
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Post by papersilly on Jun 24, 2022 2:28:19 GMT
i have a sinking suspicion that they always knew it would be 6 weeks instead of 2. nevertheless, that sucked and i would be pissed too. i hope you find something for the time being or maybe as a replacement. Geez, that would suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was surprised enough when the dad said, "I have 4 weeks parental time off, full pay, so I'm taking it and then I'll put my notice in to quit & look back at my old job". I was really surprised by that. That's super sneaky and sleazy, IMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The wife has 4 *months* of paid parental leave with her company. Since she has her 2 sets of parents here and her husband off, she figured she didn't need me too, so she said I'd have 2 weeks off. She slipped in the 6 weeks timeline when I was getting ready to leave. Hope it wasn't pre-planned, but now that you said it, the dad went out to play football with the son, and then the mom said I could leave an hour early (WEIRD; NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!) because she had the day off. Hmm........
If they knew all along, they probably figured if they told you 2 weeks, you wouldn't look for a job in that time. Then they blindsided you with the 6 weeks hoping you won't find a job in that time. my mom had a live-in caregiver when she was very ill. When my mom had to go to a acute care facility temporarily, we still paid the caregiver her full salary so she wouldn't look for another job while my mom was away. Even though we didn't ask her to, the caregiver would go to the facility every day and tend to my mom and then go back to my mom's house to sleep and do whatever she wanted. She took better care of my mom than the facility workers. She was truly the person we trusted most with my mom so we weren't going to chance losing her by letting her go for a few weeks. Word gets around about good caregivers and we knew someone would snatch her up if they thought we let her go, even temporarily.
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Post by ntsf on Jun 24, 2022 2:41:01 GMT
boy, when I worked as a nanny, I got some paid sick leave, and the pay rate went up if the kid was sick (but people really wanted me to work for them.. and I had a contract)
I do pay my housekeeper if I have to skip a visit.. right now, I told her not to come cause my daughter has covid.. I will cover that as she shouldn't lose because of the situation.
but then I can afford this.
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Post by scrapngranny on Jun 24, 2022 2:42:08 GMT
The situation stinks. Unfortunately, you have no recourse other than to go along with their whims. Working under the table is illegal for both parties. Your choice is to quit now or wait and gamble on whether they plan on having you come back after the six weeks. My guess is they are not planning on having you come back. They would have had a discussion with you about the care of the new baby and negotiating a salary adjustment.
Working under the table is risky for you. If you were to get hurt on the job and become disabled, you have no recourse.
I hope you are able to find something more stable in the future.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jun 24, 2022 3:13:03 GMT
I can’t believe that they just expect you to wait 6 weeks with no notice. That’s crazy. At daycares you have to pay to hold your spot. I wouldn’t quit unless you have another job you like but I sure would be looking. That is really inconsiderate of them to expect you to go without pay for so long and with no warning is even worse. I’m so sorry you have been out in this situation and hope you find something even better.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jun 24, 2022 3:15:44 GMT
i have a sinking suspicion that they always knew it would be 6 weeks instead of 2. nevertheless, that sucked and i would be pissed too. i hope you find something for the time being or maybe as a replacement. Geez, that would suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was surprised enough when the dad said, "I have 4 weeks parental time off, full pay, so I'm taking it and then I'll put my notice in to quit & look back at my old job". I was really surprised by that. That's super sneaky and sleazy, IMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The wife has 4 *months* of paid parental leave with her company. Since she has her 2 sets of parents here and her husband off, she figured she didn't need me too, so she said I'd have 2 weeks off. She slipped in the 6 weeks timeline when I was getting ready to leave. Hope it wasn't pre-planned, but now that you said it, the dad went out to play football with the son, and then the mom said I could leave an hour early (WEIRD; NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!) because she had the day off. Hmm........
I would bet that the money would need to be repaid if he quit immediately after taking the time off. That is really unethical. Something isn’t right if they think that is ok.
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Post by mom on Jun 24, 2022 3:17:02 GMT
boy, when I worked as a nanny, I got some paid sick leave, and the pay rate went up if the kid was sick (but people really wanted me to work for them.. and I had a contract)
I do pay my housekeeper if I have to skip a visit.. right now, I told her not to come cause my daughter has covid.. I will cover that as she shouldn't lose because of the situation. but then I can afford this. This. I know my brother has a nanny for my niece (and actually, they've used her for their 2 younger kids. They have a contract with her stating her hours, what they expect re: her duties (like making lunches, taking my niece to dance) and pay. They pay for everyday the nanny is supposed to be there, even if they dont need her for a day (or even an afternoon). If its within the nannies contracted hours, they pay. The nanny also gets something like 3 sick days off (and paid) and I know they pay for Christmas off (and probably other big holidays, but I am not certain which ones). Basically they pay her so she wont go work for another family who will. But they also give the nanny whatever paperwork for the IRS that needs to be filed. My brother would never risk his job and security clearance by having issues with the IRS.
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Post by muggins on Jun 24, 2022 9:17:26 GMT
This whole thing was pre planned and deliberate.
They gave you unpaid time off for medical reasons (you and the cats) because it was easier than finding another nanny, not because they were being nice.
The mother dropped the bombshell as you were leaving deliberately so you wouldn’t stay for an awkward conversation. They know you’re counting on this money, but they don’t care.
They will expect you to care for the newborn and the toddler when they tell you to return.
You can’t trust these two trumpers and judging by the father’s sneaky plans at work, they only think about themselves and fuck everyone else.
Let their family deal with it and find a new job closer to home with a nicer family.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Jun 24, 2022 11:25:23 GMT
I am so sorry. I assume you work for the family FT, is that correct? Have you asked them to pay you for the time off? Some people just don’t realize how their decisions affect others. And if you’ve asked, and they won’t pay you, then yes. I most definitely look for a new job. I don’t have a nanny, but I do have an every two week housecleaner. I pay her if I’m sick, traveling, and during covid. If I didn't, I’d expect that she’d (understandably) move on. Good luck! WOWWW! I've worked closely with most housecleaners for years. They often get paid as I do. Everything is off the books, etc., so if you don't work, you don't get paid! Sounds like you're quite a lovely person to work for!!!!!!!!! I've never had such a fair person to work for in the Nanny field before.
Yes, I'm working 40 hours/week. It JUST pays for my newly increased rent since DH passed. They (and no other Nanny family (would ever pay me for my time off; ever!!!). It's more like my own business and I get paid for the time that I put it; that's it!
They've been super-kind about my personal situations. When I had to put down 4 cats, I needed time off, and they were very understanding and sympathetic. When I lost two weeks because of my stomach illness, they held my job open, which I'm actually surprised over, but they said that they do "adore me" because their DD1 is attached to me.
It's a tough thing to work on your own and run your own little business, but this is how it goes. You're not entitled to anything. I don't get holidays off, paid sick days, paid vacations, etc. It's just how it goes.
Frankly, they sound like they've been over and above accommodating to you. Maybe they should have given you more notice on the 6 weeks, but 6 weeks is a normal maternity leave, especially with the circumstances and family support you know they have. It's not up to them to be sure you can pay your bills. As you say, you're "at will" and work off the books. Not like you can hold them to any high standards - you yourself aren't reporting your income either. Look for another job and leave them behind. You have never really liked that job anyway.
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Post by mikklynn on Jun 24, 2022 11:42:04 GMT
Sorry, but the idea that someone thinks that it's perfectly okay to ask you to go without pay for SIX WEEKS with zero notice and then expect you to return to work for them is just unacceptable. I am seriously pissed for you. The right thing for them to have done in the first place is to pay you for the time that they will not need your services if they expect you to put a hold on your life to return to them later. I agree.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Jun 24, 2022 12:19:20 GMT
Sorry, but the idea that someone thinks that it's perfectly okay to ask you to go without pay for SIX WEEKS with zero notice and then expect you to return to work for them is just unacceptable. I am seriously pissed for you. The right thing for them to have done in the first place is to pay you for the time that they will not need your services if they expect you to put a hold on your life to return to them later. I agree. I missed it somewhere - ARE they expecting her back? Their behavior speaks of "let's hope she quits". They aren't nervy enough to fire her.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 12:27:29 GMT
Geez, that would suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was surprised enough when the dad said, "I have 4 weeks parental time off, full pay, so I'm taking it and then I'll put my notice in to quit & look back at my old job". I was really surprised by that. That's super sneaky and sleazy, IMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The wife has 4 *months* of paid parental leave with her company. Since she has her 2 sets of parents here and her husband off, she figured she didn't need me too, so she said I'd have 2 weeks off. She slipped in the 6 weeks timeline when I was getting ready to leave. Hope it wasn't pre-planned, but now that you said it, the dad went out to play football with the son, and then the mom said I could leave an hour early (WEIRD; NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!) because she had the day off. Hmm........
I would bet that the money would need to be repaid if he quit immediately after taking the time off. That is really unethical. Something isn’t right if they think that is ok. Yes very unethical. That makes me think that they have no qualms about getting the most out of you to benefit them. I know you've said that they have treated you great in the past, but were the grandma's close by? Was it only you they had to rely on? I have a suspicion that now that they have family nearby they feel secure knowing they have helping hands. They just seem very shady to me. I would not gamble your future on them right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 12:31:31 GMT
This whole thing was pre planned and deliberate. They gave you unpaid time off for medical reasons (you and the cats) because it was easier than finding another nanny, not because they were being nice. The mother dropped the bombshell as you were leaving deliberately so you wouldn’t stay for an awkward conversation. They know you’re counting on this money, but they don’t care. They will expect you to care for the newborn and the toddler when they tell you to return. You can’t trust these two trumpers and judging by the father’s sneaky plans at work, they only think about themselves and fuck everyone else. Let their family deal with it and find a new job closer to home with a nicer family. This bears repeating!!
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Post by CardBoxer on Jun 24, 2022 13:00:21 GMT
I’m so sorry you’re in this incredibly difficult situation. My first reaction was anger at these uncaring people. Then I read some of your responses and am still angry, but also wondered if they may actually not know how critical the income is to you.
Not that you didn’t tell them, but many people are too wrapped up in their own lives to concentrate on someone else’s. That combined with the time off you had to take could add up to it not being that big a deal to them: you took breaks; they’re taking a break. They’re focused on two jobs, their kid (when you’re not there), pregnancy, family coming to town, and all the business and “busyness” that goes along with that. And regardless of how much money they make, their financial situation is unknown.
They’re also off the hook for ramifications that may have occurred had they hired you through a service and signed a contract, because this is under the table. (That’s scary. If you get injured on the job there’s no workers compensation.)
That’s not to excuse them. But it may be worth clearly telling them again that this income is critical in order to pay your bills. I also agree with some others that this may be a step of cutting you loose for now until there’s less family help, that six weeks could stretch out.
I hope this works out for you—you deserve a decent income with less worry.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 13:22:10 GMT
I'm guessing that they figure they won't need you in future and if they do that you'll still be around. I wouldn't waste your time and energy getting mad about the situation. It's totally unprofessional, selfish and shows that they don't care about you at all.
I hope you find another job.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 14:41:25 GMT
Good questions!!! When I took the job, I was still very much grieving and I explained it. I explained that our rent just went up almost $500/mo and I needed to get back to work. They're both VERY tough people and they said that it might just be "good" for me to keep busy.
When the mom dumped this 6 week off deal to me, I was honestly in shock!!!!!!!! I was in shock enough over just the 2 weeks off! My mind was spinning and I was trying to figure out how I'd pay the bills. I barely make it through as it is and I work 40 hours/week + 3 hours each day driving. I have no time or energy for anything else! So, no, I didn't have the energy to say anything back to her.
To be fair, she's been VERY fair in giving me time off to put each of our 4 cats down, and she's been very caring. Same goes with my stomach issues and ER visit. I really thought she'd fire me, but she didn't. She kept my job open. Of course she didn't pay me for ANY time taken off. That's just the way it goes.
About the new baby: It's not discussed. She will have 4 months' paid paternity leave. She didn't hire me until her DD was 10 mos old and became a "bother". I'm sure she's thinking it'll go the same way with this baby. I DON'T normally watch 2 children (a VERY active 14 mo old + a newborn). Nope. When I have watched 2 toddlers, I knew them, they were calm in nature, and I got paid double. No problem. I have a feeling that this would be very different PLUS I don't think I'd want it or could possibly even handle it. The 14 mo old is hard enough to handle!!!!!!!!
As far as signing up with agencies, I do. I can't sign up with Daycare jobs, etc., because it's all on the books and I can't do that right now. I'll figure it all out...........
If this is truly the case, then you simply need to start looking for work immediately. Of course the expectation will be, once you go back to work after the 6 weeks, that you will watch both children - at least part time while mom goes to get her hair done, or goes grocery shopping, or wants to go to lunch with friends, etc. And then, when her family leave is used up 2.5 months after you come back, the expectation will almost certainly be that you will watch both children full time. There would be no reason to pay a nanny for only 1 child and expect grandparents to provide free daycare for the second child. If you won’t watch both children - even for a pay raise, which of course would be necessary - then they will probably find a nanny who is willing to watch 2 children full-time. The older child is still 4 years out from public school, if she is only 14 months now in June, and they will need a nanny for 2 children for those 4 years. From a parental perspective, it wouldn’t make any sense to keep on a nanny who is only interested in watching 1 of their 2 children. The situation stinks, but it sounds like was only postponing the inevitable job-search if you only had 2 weeks off. The job description is changing substantially and you have honestly shared that you don’t want what the new job will be. All good points, HOWEVER, I got the job and she was already pregnant. NO MENTION of the upcoming baby and NO QUESTIONS about if I'd consider taking on watching a brand new baby + a VERY active little one. I'd have said, "No thanks." Watching this one 14 (actually 15 mo old now) baby girl is a feat in itself, and the parents know it!!! Even her grandparents admit that "it's too much" to watch her.
I had no idea what the mom was going to do with the baby boy once he was born. NO IDEA. She didn't discuss it with me. She didn't ask me, and she didn't give me any inkling of what they pictured for the 2 children. At the initial interview, they really should have asked me, because I would have said NO, and I had many other interviews to go on. It's a shame.
To this day, this hasn't been discussed with me. I'm assuming that the mom will do what she did with the first baby. She had 4 months' paid leave and then she kept her in a HUGE playpen all day until she couldn't handle her baby anymore at 10 months old (which is why she began interviewing Nannies).
This 15 mo old baby still takes her morning nap **ON ME**. The parents told me that it's "easier" this way. The mom's parents told me that it's "weird" and they've tried to change it, but it's been impossible. I've urged the parents to change this habit and they said, "good luck". So, I don't see how anyone would be juggling a newborn + this 15 mo girl who naps on people (and thrashes a lot just to get comfortable). Sounds impossible. I've never dealt with a situation like this in my life!
Also, the 15 mo old baby has slept with the parents until just about 4 months ago. I'm wondering how she'd deal with the new baby taking her place in bed with them. I know she'll be PISSED. She has a bad temper and she thinks that she could get whatever she wants. A nightmare ahead. I'll be searching and trying to figure out what to do about my phone today. If I did ever drink, today would be a great day to drink!! LOL.
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Post by christine58 on Jun 24, 2022 14:50:16 GMT
No offense but you knew she was having another baby when they hired you. They probably assumed that you would watch that infant also. Why would they or you think differently. You need to have a chat with them ASAP. They need to know what this lack of pay is doing to you. I will pray that you find another job.
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Post by caangel on Jun 24, 2022 14:57:59 GMT
Why didn't YOU ask? Sorry but you bear some responsibility in that conversation not happening. This isn't all happening TO you, you have a role in how this is going down.
I hope you are able to find a new job.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 15:17:17 GMT
I do know that housecleaners make tons more than Nannies do, but they're there for 1 day per month; not 5 days per week. I've never heard of them creating a Contract. The only way that I will have a housecleaner is to have a contract. I want them to be accountable to the day(s) of the week and the either the hourly wage or total $amount will be $x. Maybe things are different in the USA, but I only like to pay people that I know will be paying taxes on the money that they earn. Working "under the table" is unfair to so many people, including yourself, in the long run. Find yourself a job where you will be respected and not having to drive so far everyday. That, or make plans to move to LI. I understand that your DD has some issues but shouldn't she be working a bit or collecting disability? *Sounds ideal but no place that I interview with would EVER accept the idea of a contract, for sure. These families get upset when you hand them anything. *Secondly, my services are that of their housekeepers: it's all off-the-books and done according to the homeowner's schedule. We all don't get paid for anything more or anything less. If it's a great person doing the hiring and she sees the work put into cleaning the house and/or caring for her most precious thing in the world, she'd sometimes gift us with things, but that's it. *I TRY to look for jobs relatively close to my home, but they pay nothing right here and it's all very questionable. This is where the dad was taken away for multiple crimes against his Nannies. He was a weirdo and a liar. I'm lucky I didn't end up dead with that one. THAT is what I face out there! When I meet a seemingly "normal" family, I'm overjoyed, but I don't ever get even 50% of what I'd consider to be fair. *I can't work for companies or on the books because of my SSD. I don't forget that I deal with disabling, intense pain every single day. I'm wearing an eyepatch because my surgeons are now "stuck" and I might be left like this forever. It all sucks, but the pain is overbearing and so very difficult to deal with. THE ONLY REASON I am doing some Nannying is to bring in $$ to pay our newly increased rent since DH passed in November. This is like a long nightmare. I'm very proud of myself for being able to get jobs but on the inside I'm just dying and screaming out for help. Still, I could keep a clear head for 8 hours/day and come home and just melt.............. *As far as DD34. I've discussed his here many, many times. I have files on her from when she was in preschool!!! I have IQ tests that her preschool wanted & from then on we've had her in counseling. She has bipolar. She missed quite a few years of school (middle school and up to her graduating year). I have all of her records. She was home-schooled by her teachers. She was able to keep up quite easily, but her depression/anxiety was BAD. Sometimes she couldn't come downstairs to even meet with the teacher. She was overwhelmed. First husband was in denial forever. He didn't want her to see a counselor or to go on meds, ever. He said it's for "losers". Seeing that his daughter was supremely intelligent really threw him for a loop but I do admit that he'd got his own severe issues with life thanks to his messed up family life. So, we never applied for SSD up in NY. We assumed she'd be well enough to work and function. Nope!!!!!!!!!!! DD34 moved down here with me and Gary in 2013 because she had nowhere else to move. She had 3 cats. Gary immediately said, "yes, but she has to work or to to school". Neither worked out. She tried working many jobs. They'd last up to a year and then it would be like hitting a brick wall (bipolar parents know this). She has no medical and no therapy. She has to pay out of her empty pockets for either, and for her meds that she's NEVER missed for 35 years. *We did try to apply for SSD down here in FL. I figured it would be easy since I had almost anything they'd ask her for. Well, that's not how it went, AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Down here, they only want to know how you've gotten by during the past year. They don't care about your medical history, etc. We hired a SSD attorney and got turned down by the Judge 3 times. That's it. Supposedly she can't try to reapply unless there's a big change in her case. ALSO, because she barely worked on the books, she'd have gotten basically nothing for her SSD. Not sure why she wouldn't qualify for Medicaid since I am now deemed to be impoverished and she has no income. I don't understand it, but I've tried every which way to make this work. DD doesn't drive anymore. She's got PTSD over it. She has severe limitations about so many things. She's more akin to an 11 year old than a 34 year old and it breaks my heart. I wish she could see a qualified M.D. for her routine, overdue care. I wish I could afford a GOOD therapist who deals in bipolar. She's been wasting her time for decades just to get her scripts every month. They don't really ask any deep questions. (The GOOD news is that yesterday I took her to a new Behavioral Health specialist. He's great!! This is about 20 min away. The other place was about 80 min each way! Hope he works out for DD. He wanted to make Rx changes and he sounds really good for her so far!
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jun 24, 2022 15:24:22 GMT
HOWEVER, I got the job and she was already pregnant. NO MENTION of the upcoming baby and NO QUESTIONS about if I'd consider taking on watching a brand new baby + a VERY active little one... I had no idea what the mom was going to do with the baby boy once he was born. NO IDEA. She didn't discuss it with me. She didn't ask me, and she didn't give me any inkling of what they pictured for the 2 children. At the initial interview, they really should have asked me, because I would have said NO, and I had many other interviews to go on. It's a shame.
To this day, this hasn't been discussed with me. I'm assuming that the mom will do what she did with the first baby. The person being hired is allowed to ask questions in an interview as well. I sure would have been in that situation. You needed to advocate more for yourself at that point. In future interviews, do go ahead and ask about anything that's unclear. Far better to have everything communicated and clear. If a family won't have that kind of conversation with you, it's probably a big red flag anyway. Also, with your last post it made me stop and think about the timeline. If she didn't start interviewing for nannies until the little princess was 10 months old and she's just now turned 15 months, then there's not as much of a long-term employer-employee relationship there. Perhaps that plays into why they don't seem to feel any real obligation to pay you for time not worked.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 15:25:22 GMT
Why didn't YOU ask? Sorry but you bear some responsibility in that conversation not happening. This isn't all happening TO you, you have a role in how this is going down. I hope you are able to find a new job. Nice to say, but when I ask her (or him) ANYTHING, they don't have time, at ALL!!!!!!!!!!!! Conversations just don't ever happen. I did ask about the baby in the beginning and they both said that the wife has 4 months off, so it should work out. For whom?? They keep saying we'll talk about things down the line and then we never do. My only responsibility is to find a better job if/when I can. HOnestly this one isn't too bad. They've worked with me when our 4 cats passed this year (some hours off; no pay) and when I had to go to the ER and take 2 separate weeks off (again, no pay, but they kept my job open).
The good part is that the parents aren't off the wall nutty. The husband isn't overtly sexual with me (points there!). I normally become friends with the parents but in this case, nah. I'm more than 30 years older than this mom, and she is SO very strong-minded. I think it must be hard for her to have any friends! The husband is nice enough but they do have a weird vibe.
When you're alone and working in someone's home, you NEVER know what you're walking into. I've walked into an interview where the dad had NO BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yup. I've walked into interviews where the dads were acting more like it was a dating applicaition (I dress appropriately). It's often very scary here, but I sometimes wind up with wonderful friends who were my Nanny parents.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 15:28:32 GMT
I am a little confused. In previous posts you made comments , that you were not crazy about this job and it is way too far to be driving every day. I would totally be using this time to find a closer job and less stressful. It’s not like you can’t get another job but you only want to work under the table so there is no paper trail. That’s not being that honest at all. Basically it sounds like you are trying not to screw up your SS .Whould it not be less stressful to be up front, get a job at Starbucks which I believe gives you benefits, sick time etc. In the long haul it would be less stressful and less sneaky If I lost $1 of my SS, I'd be on the street. Is that clear enough?? I have my SSD and my widow benefits also. Combined, they aren't enough to pay the rent.
I don't need benefits. I have Medicare and I'm all set with that. All I need is to be able to pay my rent and monthly bills and not wind up on the streets.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 15:35:35 GMT
HOWEVER, I got the job and she was already pregnant. NO MENTION of the upcoming baby and NO QUESTIONS about if I'd consider taking on watching a brand new baby + a VERY active little one... I had no idea what the mom was going to do with the baby boy once he was born. NO IDEA. She didn't discuss it with me. She didn't ask me, and she didn't give me any inkling of what they pictured for the 2 children. At the initial interview, they really should have asked me, because I would have said NO, and I had many other interviews to go on. It's a shame.
To this day, this hasn't been discussed with me. I'm assuming that the mom will do what she did with the first baby. The person being hired is allowed to ask questions in an interview as well. I sure would have been in that situation. You needed to advocate more for yourself at that point. In future interviews, do go ahead and ask about anything that's unclear. Far better to have everything communicated and clear. If a family won't have that kind of conversation with you, it's probably a big red flag anyway. Also, with your last post it made me stop and think about the timeline. If she didn't start interviewing for nannies until the little princess was 10 months old and she's just now turned 15 months, then there's not as much of a long-term employer-employee relationship there. Perhaps that plays into why they don't seem to feel any real obligation to pay you for time not worked. I think I began in the beginning of February. Not too much time, but each situation is vastly different. Some parents aren't home at all. Some do work at home so we get to chat a little more. Some are more amenable to talking. This one gives a quick rundown of the baby's last night (food allergies, rashes, things I need to watch for) and that's it! Most other moms have taken the time to sit down and begin a friendship. I could understand that this one has absolutely no time. She does give off a very cold vibe too.
They were nice enough to keep my job open when I took those 2 weeks off, separately, due to stomach issues and an ER visit. They were nice enough to say, "it's okay" each time we had to put a beloved cat down and then I'd head back to work. They all did express their sympathy (no paid time off, as expected). They're nice enough but distant, if that makes sense. By this point, I surely know if the family is going to be friendly with me or if they're going to be distant and guarded. I usually know that after 1 week. This family is the latter. Oh well.
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Deleted
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 15:40:48 GMT
No offense but you knew she was having another baby when they hired you. They probably assumed that you would watch that infant also. Why would they or you think differently. You need to have a chat with them ASAP. They need to know what this lack of pay is doing to you. I will pray that you find another job. None taken. I did say that this was discussed during my initial interview. The mom said that she gets 4 months paid parental leave & has help. She WANTS to be hands on and alone with the infant for as long as she's able, even though she'd be back at her remote job. She told me expressly that she ONLY wants me to be caring for her daughter; not this newest infant. It was clear. I'll be spending this time looking for a different family. It's so hard to find a family who isn't weird,etc. I've only worked for families who are caring towards their children (no spoiling), know how to talk to people with respect and kindness, and I've left jobs where the people seem violent or too uncomfortable for me. Hope I find that!! Thanks.
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quiltz
Drama Llama
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Post by quiltz on Jun 24, 2022 15:43:42 GMT
I am a little confused. In previous posts you made comments , that you were not crazy about this job and it is way too far to be driving every day. I would totally be using this time to find a closer job and less stressful. It’s not like you can’t get another job but you only want to work under the table so there is no paper trail. That’s not being that honest at all. Basically it sounds like you are trying not to screw up your SS .Whould it not be less stressful to be up front, get a job at Starbucks which I believe gives you benefits, sick time etc. In the long haul it would be less stressful and less sneaky If I lost $1 of my SS, I'd be on the street. Is that clear enough?? I have my SSD and my widow benefits also. Combined, they aren't enough to pay the rent.
I don't need benefits. I have Medicare and I'm all set with that. All I need is to be able to pay my rent and monthly bills and not wind up on the streets.
However, a job at Starbucks would be paying you more $ per hour and then you will be getting a higher return than the less than minimal wage job doing skut work. You shouldn't be scheming the gov't and then complain when you don't get what you *think* that you deserve. You would get back income tax money paid when you file your annual IRS submission. The parents have no obligation to you, regardless how much money that THEY make. That money isn't your money and there isn't any obligation to do more in an "at will" state. You seem to be playing a victim's card and flip everything to the other people rather than onto yourself. I know some of the peas will play into your hard-luck story and you will get gift cards and more. Wishing you well as you look for new employment.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 15:44:44 GMT
I am a little confused. In previous posts you made comments , that you were not crazy about this job and it is way too far to be driving every day. I would totally be using this time to find a closer job and less stressful. It’s not like you can’t get another job but you only want to work under the table so there is no paper trail. That’s not being that honest at all. Basically it sounds like you are trying not to screw up your SS .Whould it not be less stressful to be up front, get a job at Starbucks which I believe gives you benefits, sick time etc. In the long haul it would be less stressful and less sneaky I'm NOT crazy about this job. It's about 70 min each way. My gas $$ is eating away at my $$ for rent. I can't get a closer job that would pay a decent amount. I'm in a very poor area and they think that $8-10/hr is a decent amount for childcare. I am doing what I have to do right now to pay the rent and stay afloat. Does that make sense?? I can't afford to lose my Medicare/Medicaid or my SSD.......
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Post by twinks on Jun 24, 2022 15:51:04 GMT
Have you applied for low income housing? Either in FL or NY? Do you know how much you can make and still have your SSD? That way you could work above the table.
Since you were under the table employed, they can’t claim child care on their taxes. You don’t have any benefits, etc. You are at whim. Their whim was to let you off for 6 weeks. By working illegally you are putting both parties at risk. They could experience serious legal problems.
Sorry you are having so many problems.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 16:03:32 GMT
They are using you. They don’t care that you’ll be without pay. They don’t care that the child sleeps on you. You might think they’re really nice because of some of the things that they’ve done like keeping the job open while you were out, but they probably did that because they didn’t have anyone else to watch the 14-month-old who no offense needs some discipline. She needs to be sleeping in her own bed. They see you as a servant nothing more otherwise they would’ve offered to give you some pay over the next six weeks. They know the situation you’re in. Think about that for a minute, they know that you rely on their money to pay your bills yet they’re looking for you to take six weeks off with no pay. This is the most spot-on comment thusfar! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are right!!! They don't care that their child sleeps on me. They walk by and smile and think it's adorable. (Not too adorable when you have to go use the bathroom---one move and the child IMMEDIATELY wakes up and screams!!!!!!)
You are also right----------- they have her mom and stepdad to watch the baby if I'm out on an emergency. The 2 of them moved down to FL just to be with this daughter and her growing family, BUT they realized how physically demanding it is to watch this baby. When I come "for the handoff", they are holding the baby because it's easier than to let her run free and cause destruction. They're happy to hand her off to me and they wish me luck!!! They've told me that they think it's "weird" that their granddaughter can only fall asleep ON SOMEONE during her afternoon nap. They've tried to put her in her crib but it lasted 10 minutes and that was 10 minutes of sheer screaming. (She also purposely hits her head on the bed, bites her fingers until they bleed, etc.........).
Anyway, I've been REALLY trying to give her positive time alone, to make her feel good about herself and to teach her skills. She's extremely physical but I've been able to teach her some of the alphabet, how to spell her name, how to speak some words, how to sign when she's too tired or frustrated to speak, etc....... It's progress.
Thanks for your words. They make a lot of sense. Here I am, feeling proud for what I can do with this difficult child, and the parents really don't care about me. I do need to find another family that's a better fit. Thank you!!
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gina
Pearl Clutcher
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Jun 26, 2014 1:59:16 GMT
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Post by gina on Jun 24, 2022 16:14:05 GMT
I would 100% quit. Fuck that.
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