PLurker
Prolific Pea
Posts: 9,840
Location: Behind the Cheddar Curtain
Jun 28, 2014 3:48:49 GMT
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Post by PLurker on Jul 5, 2022 17:28:40 GMT
Them: Dontcha know you're not supposed to talk about guns the day of a shooting? ShoW soMe ResPecT!
Me: so never?
#justanotherdayinMerica
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Post by Zee on Jul 5, 2022 19:13:07 GMT
I...can't quite figure out...what's wrong with his face. He looks off.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 5, 2022 19:20:14 GMT
They just posted a picture of him with a denim shirt/jacket, RW&B bandana around his neck. Black skirt or pants, can't tell.. phone with ear buds on wires..
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 5, 2022 19:23:43 GMT
Yet the GOP take every opportunity to defend their right for everyone and sundry to carry a gun in the US ....cause you know strict gun controls don't work As soon as it happened that was what I was seeing posted and it’s just sickening. Seriously they have one every couple of years we have had more than there are days in the year to date. Two people were killed vs how many here daily? "Seatbelts don't work because someone got killed in a car accident and was wearing a seatbelt" argle bargle.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 5, 2022 19:24:55 GMT
I don’t want to Google the sign. Anyone know what that means? Found this … I'm confused . When I google Quincunx that is not what is in the video.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 5, 2022 19:26:41 GMT
I...can't quite figure out...what's wrong with his face. He looks off. In the first pic of him, I think he looks like an anime figure or a Disney character in a way. Really wide set eyes, heart shaped face, etc. The tattoos and needing a hair cut and shave look a little odd on such a young looking person, IMO. In the video he looks more typical, though, without the beard.
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Post by Zee on Jul 5, 2022 19:33:43 GMT
He looks something like when Voldemort was trying to put his face back together and I guess he needed a "quincunx" to do it? Close enough to horcrux for me.
Insane
It's just the Wild West everywhere but there's no sheriff gonna fix this
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 5, 2022 20:02:20 GMT
Another person has died . The death toll is now 7.
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Post by papersilly on Jul 5, 2022 20:26:56 GMT
Another person has died . The death toll is now 7. i really hope that's it. we shouldn't even have the 7. it's all just awful.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 5, 2022 20:58:32 GMT
This is so distressing.
This was completely preventable. Law enforcement did not do their jobs to make sure this person did not have access to guns. We have red flag laws in IL. The burden is also on this person's family; you can't tell me they didn't know.
Shameful.
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lizacreates
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,862
Aug 29, 2015 2:39:19 GMT
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Post by lizacreates on Jul 5, 2022 21:01:27 GMT
"The rifle recovered from the shooting scene was similar to an AR-15 using high-velocity rounds and did not appear to be modified.
Crimo had purchased two rifles legally from different locations and in his name in the Chicagoland area, Covelli said. One was found at the scene and a second one was in his car. Other legally purchased firearms were recovered from his residence."
So, another “law-abiding citizen” who shouldn't be prevented from exercising his 2A rights, then. /s
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 5, 2022 21:04:43 GMT
This is so distressing. This was completely preventable. Law enforcement did not do their jobs to make sure this person did not have access to guns. We have red flag laws in IL. The burden is also on this person's family; you can't tell me they didn't know. Shameful. The family did know there was some sort of problem with him, however they all refused to sign a complaint against him. The local police did report the knife seizure to the state police. The question is, what did the state police do with that report? Particularly when Crimo filed for a permit to purchase a fire arm, which became 5 assorted fire arms? Should there have been a 'red flag' on his file, which would at least caused some further examination before approving the fire arm permit?
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 5, 2022 21:06:22 GMT
"The rifle recovered from the shooting scene was similar to an AR-15 using high-velocity rounds and did not appear to be modified.
Crimo had purchased two rifles legally from different locations and in his name in the Chicagoland area, Covelli said. One was found at the scene and a second one was in his car. Other legally purchased firearms were recovered from his residence."So, another “law-abiding citizen” who shouldn't be prevented from exercising his 2A rights, then. /s He obtained a FOID card AFTER having his knives confiscated by law enforcement after saying he'd kill his whole family.
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Post by elaine on Jul 5, 2022 21:46:36 GMT
I'm confused . When I google Quincunx that is not what is in the video. It isn’t a Quincunx, from what I can tell, which is involves FIVE same shapes in an arrangement - think of dots on the 5 side of a die. This, with 4 triangles arranged around a square in the center, is not really a Quincunx. There is a Quincunx with a square in the center, but it involves 4 SQUARES in the corners around a square in the center.
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pinklady
Drama Llama
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Nov 14, 2016 23:47:03 GMT
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Post by pinklady on Jul 5, 2022 22:01:58 GMT
Well there was a reason he was wondering alone. So unbelievably preventable
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Jul 5, 2022 22:35:38 GMT
Well there was a reason he was wondering alone. So unbelievably preventable So terrible, that poor little boy.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 5, 2022 23:06:17 GMT
No bullets in his body....
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 5, 2022 23:11:59 GMT
Well there was a reason he was wondering alone. So unbelievably preventable So terrible, that poor little boy. Oh my God, that poor baby! What did he see? This is all so awful.
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Post by paulao on Jul 5, 2022 23:18:27 GMT
Oh my god in Heaven, that poor little boy.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 6, 2022 0:22:46 GMT
He’ll be arrested alive and well, right? Not executed by 60 bullets. Sounds about white. I'd be willing to bet that the police being shot at by one suspect and not shot at by the other suspect, carried much more weight in the decision to shoot or not shoot, than anyone's skin color.
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 6, 2022 0:47:11 GMT
Well there was a reason he was wondering alone. So unbelievably preventable That is so unbelievably awful.
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Post by Zee on Jul 6, 2022 3:53:44 GMT
Oh that poor little boy 😭😭😭
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 6, 2022 15:34:07 GMT
CNN
Shooter has admitted firing on the crowd. Voluntary statements in court. He considered using weapon in car to shoot at another gathering/celebration in Madison, WI. His phone was found in the Madison area. Indicated he may not have done enough planning for that and return to local area. There is video of the ladder to the roof. I think they said he was on it, not sure tho.. Bail denied, facing life. More then sufficient evidence to support it no bail. Arraignment hearing is over. No plea was entered. Due in court again July 28th.
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Post by wezee on Jul 6, 2022 16:27:56 GMT
Mental illness is an epidemic. I feel so bad for all involved.
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Post by wezee on Jul 6, 2022 16:29:15 GMT
I'd be willing to bet that the police being shot at by one suspect and not shot at by the other suspect, carried much more weight in the decision to shoot or not shoot, than anyone's skin color. You hit the nail on the head
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 6, 2022 16:38:17 GMT
Mental illness is an epidemic. I feel so bad for all involved. Stop. So many people live with mental illness and do not commit acts of violence. Attributing mass shootings to mental illness without addressing the issue of guns is irresponsible and a misrepresentation of the problem. This is NOT NEW INFORMATION. It is well documented and supported by data. It's the guns. www.nytimes.com/2022/05/26/briefing/guns-america-shooting-deaths.html
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pinklady
Drama Llama
Posts: 6,071
Nov 14, 2016 23:47:03 GMT
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Post by pinklady on Jul 6, 2022 16:50:28 GMT
Mental illness Evil is an epidemic. I fixed it for you.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 6, 2022 16:54:49 GMT
I was trying to figure out how to say that.^°^
There are genuinely evil people.. they are not mentally ill. They are deranged... They are cruel, mean and what ever word you choose to use.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 6, 2022 17:05:34 GMT
Stop.So many people live with mental illness and do not commit acts of violence. Attributing mass shootings to mental illness without addressing the issue of guns is irresponsible and a misrepresentation of the problem. thank you, from a person who has managed for years with a mental illness (depression)-- without EVER picking up a gun and killing ANYONE. And I am one among untold multiple thousands (when you consider people who go undiagnosed for whatever reason) of people who do so (manage to avoid murder, I mean), each and every day. Perpetuating this myth of 'killer, therefore mentally ill' makes everyone who has a mental illness sound like some sort of ready-to-snap person, forever teetering on the knife-edge of sanity. No WONDER there are people out there who refuse to get diagnosed and treated, when THIS is the attitude they see from the public at large.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 6, 2022 17:07:44 GMT
Stop. So many people live with mental illness and do not commit acts of violence. Attributing mass shootings to mental illness without addressing the issue of guns is irresponsible and a misrepresentation of the problem. thank you. As a person who manages very well with a mental illness (depression)-- without EVER picking up a gun and killing ANYONE. And I am one among untold multiple thousands (when you consider people who go undiagnosed for whatever reason) of people who do so, each and every day. Perpetuating this myth of 'killer = mentally ill') makes everyone who has a mental illness sound like some sort of ready-to-snap person, forever teetering on the knife-edge of sanity. No WONDER there are people out there who refuse to get diagnosed and treated, when THIS is the attitude they see from the public at large. Thank you for sharing your truth. We need to destigmatize mental illness and solve the gun problem in this country.
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