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Post by pixiechick on Jul 7, 2022 18:32:57 GMT
Just one example out of hundreds? thousands?: linkSo this is the best you can come up with? Seriously? He was right in that the focus should stay on the stunt McConnell pulled with trump’s third pick, especially after he denied President Obama his right to fill a vacancy on the Supreme Court by not scheduling any hearings for Garland when President Obama had almost a year left in his term. What McConnell did was steal two Supreme Court picks from a current president and a future president by changing the the norm for his political gain. And I doubt very much people were asking this reporter if President Biden was going to stack the court. But here’s a question. Do you think McConnell was right to deny President Obama’s pick any hearings with almost a year left in his term while pushing through trump’s pick with just weeks before the presidential election was to take place? None of that which you have said, is relevant to this discussion. That thread was linked for iamkristinl16's benefit. She asked for examples of "but Trump". There are at least 30 to 40 in that thread. That is the only relevance to this thread. |
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Post by lucyg on Jul 7, 2022 19:18:06 GMT
So this is the best you can come up with? Seriously? He was right in that the focus should stay on the stunt McConnell pulled with trump’s third pick, especially after he denied President Obama his right to fill a vacancy on the Supreme Court by not scheduling any hearings for Garland when President Obama had almost a year left in his term. What McConnell did was steal two Supreme Court picks from a current president and a future president by changing the the norm for his political gain. And I doubt very much people were asking this reporter if President Biden was going to stack the court. But here’s a question. Do you think McConnell was right to deny President Obama’s pick any hearings with almost a year left in his term while pushing through trump’s pick with just weeks before the presidential election was to take place? None of that which you have said, is relevant to this discussion. That thread was linked for iamkristinl16's benefit. She asked for examples of "but Trump". There are at least 30 to 40 in that thread. That is the only relevance to this thread. There. Wasn’t. Anything. Wrong. With. What. Biden. Did. in your linked thread. You’re arguing about an issue that doesn’t really exist. You … or your right-wing compadres … invented the problem. It is not a crime, an ethical issue, a matter of morals, or a sign of incompetence to say, that’s not a question I am going to answer at this point. |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 7, 2022 19:22:50 GMT
I’d rather them say that than lie on record about something
But I guess that is my personal preference. I guess others prefer the on the spot lying. 🤷♀️
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 7, 2022 19:37:25 GMT
There. Wasn’t. Anything. Wrong. With. What. Biden. Did. in your linked thread. You’re arguing about an issue that doesn’t really exist. You … or your right-wing compadres … invented the problem. It is not a crime, an ethical issue, a matter of morals, or a sign of incompetence to say, that’s not a question I am going to answer at this point.I have this poster blocked, so I had to go back and look at the post, to see what was linked. Talk about spreadsheet-keeping, man... to link a thread from Fall, 2020? Geez. really?!? eta: and I heartily agree with what Lucy wrote- saying "I'm not going to answer that right now" is not a scandal, or illegal, and it doesn't mean the person isn't perfectly competent. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 7, 2022 20:00:58 GMT
I have this poster blocked, so I had to go back and look at the post, to see what was linked. Talk about spreadsheet-keeping, man... to link a thread from Fall, 2020? Geez. really?!? Blocking people that don't agree with you. hmmmm It's not spreadsheet keeping to link it -when you're the one that wrote it. You could've agreed with Lucy without the personal swipe, especially since it wasn't even true. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 7, 2022 23:18:13 GMT
It's related to the Twitter thread that I posted. We've seen some conservative peas here claim that meanie liberals "made them" vote for Trump, even though they claim not to like him. We now see conservatives on Twitter claiming that liberals made the SC overturn Roe, that Obama made Trump run for president, etc., etc. What you posted in reply has no relation to what I asked, either on the board or out in the wide world. I'm talking about this abuser's mantra of "I know it's awful, but you made me do it." I don't really think it's that hard to understand. You say a conversation can be had, but you insist on trying to have a different conversation than the one I started. If you want to have that conversation, start your own thread. Well, in relation to your OP There ARE catalysts to an event. I don't agree with using it as a reason to not take responsibility for your actions. We are all responsible for our own actions. There were also some left news sources and entertainers that were pushing the idea that Obama and Seth Myers hurt Trumps feelings and that's why the thin-skinned, orange man ran for president. There's a significant difference when Republicans blame Democrats vs Democrats blaming themselves. Left wing news sources and entertainers are not playing victim when they suggest Trump was deeply insulted and that's why he ran for president. Show me an example of a Democrat playing victim and blaming Republicans for something they themselves are responsible for. This is not a both sides argument. Very different from Republicans playing victim saying the liberals made me do it , abortion activists were mean to Kavanaugh or Thomas and made them vote to overturn Roe v Wade etc. So many examples of conservatives playing victim and blaming Democrats. Or, Republicans just taking revenge. Like DeSantis going after Disney, Clarence Thomas saying he was going to make life for liberals hell for 43 years etc. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 7, 2022 23:25:27 GMT
I would like some examples. Even if people said that what a democrat did was not as bad as trump (which is usually true) I can’t think of any times where the majority of posters didn’t say the action was also wrong. On the other hand, when has a Republican here said what another Republican did was wrong? That doesn’t happen often. Just one example out of hundreds? thousands?: linkOh I see. Double standards. It's OK for conservatives to use whataboutisms but you object when liberals do it. Any whataboutism is OK if you're conservative but what about Trump is unacceptable. Got it. Also, in the example you posted, Biden did nothing wrong. When he does something wrong, liberals here don't hesitate to criticize him for it. And your link only answers one of iamkirsten's question. Sidestepping again. She asked when did Republicans call out Republican politicians for doing something wrong. Even something as egregious as the big lie or the Jan 6 insurrection, it was mostly crickets from conservatives here. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2022 23:49:38 GMT
I have this poster blocked, so I had to go back and look at the post, to see what was linked. Talk about spreadsheet-keeping, man... to link a thread from Fall, 2020? Geez. really?!?
It's not spreadsheet keeping to link it -when you're the one that wrote it. You could've agreed with Lucy without the personal swipe, especially since it wasn't even true. Sounds almost as delightful as being blissfully ignorant. |
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Post by Merge on Jul 8, 2022 0:45:45 GMT
I would like to know what kind of heartless monster you have to be to offhandedly claim that "there's a catalyst for everything" in response to a tweet that casually justifies a 10 year old girl being required to bear her rapist's child because liberals were mean. Did anyone actually read the thread I posted?? Or was that just too much damn trouble in the face of looking for one more chance to own the libs? A 10 year old is an acceptable casualty to these people and we're told "there's a catalyst for everything." JFC. Don't ask why people block you when that is your heartless and brainless response. But why should we be surprised, when the response of the right to school shootings of 9 and 10 year olds is to post memes about how they lubricate their AR-15s with liberal tears (or worse). They're willing to make children pay for the supposed sins of liberals. Attachments:
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Post by Merge on Jul 8, 2022 0:52:29 GMT
And lest anyone think that Libby in the PP is an anomaly, here's Kathleen Parker blaming the overturn of Roe on protesters at Kavanaugh's house - basically confirming for all of us that the three judges Trump placed are nothing more than spineless political hacks assisting with the nationwide punishment of the libs. NBD, right? Libs should have stayed quiet because the GOP is going to execute a woman or child through lack of abortion access every time one of us speaks up. Fucking ghouls. That's the conversation I want to have. I want to know why more supposed conservatives aren't outraged by these abuser tactics. *Punch* Oh, look what you made me do. *Shoot* Why do you keep talking when you know I'll have to hurt you? Absolute fucking monsters, one and all. Prove me wrong. Attachments:
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Post by Merge on Jul 8, 2022 0:56:07 GMT
All this comes straight from Trump's playbook, BTW, and don't pretend you don't know it. All the times he withheld (or threatened to withhold) critical aid from various states if their governors didn't kiss the ring or bend the knee appropriately. The way he's sought to destroy any member of his own party who has disagreed with or spoken out against his outrageous acts. It's abuse from the top down, and y'all are absolutely disgusting for supporting it. Vile. Please rot in hell soonest.
ETA: and it's not just taking revenge on a political opponent, which is bad enough (lock her up, anyone?). It's hurting innocent people to take that revenge. Women who have to almost die of sepsis before their pregnancy can be ended, children forced to bear a rapist's baby, all the millions of marginalized people who will suffer under a religious regime like the one Trump has enabled. It's disgusting.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 8, 2022 1:01:59 GMT
I would like to know what kind of heartless monster you have to be to offhandedly claim that "there's a catalyst for everything" in response to a tweet that casually justifies a 10 year old girl being required to bear her rapist's child because liberals were mean. Did anyone actually read the thread I posted?? Or was that just too much damn trouble in the face of looking for one more chance to own the libs? A 10 year old is an acceptable casualty to these people and we're told "there's a catalyst for everything." JFC. Don't ask why people block you when that is your heartless and brainless response. But why should we be surprised, when the response of the right to school shootings of 9 and 10 year olds is to post memes about how they lubricate their AR-15s with liberal tears (or worse). They're willing to make children pay for the supposed sins of liberals. Absolutely disgraceful and inexcusable. Not to mention, Democrats have been advocating for access to health care for women and all Americans. Democrats have been advocating for sex education, free birth control etc. One of the most significant reductions in the number of abortions was the result of the Affordable Care Act giving women access to yearly exams and free birth control. And who tried to block these measures every step of the way? Not the Democrats. The Republicans tried to block or repeal the Affordable Care Act more than 50 times. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 8, 2022 1:26:36 GMT
Just one example out of hundreds? thousands?: linkSo this is the best you can come up with? Seriously? He was right in that the focus should stay on the stunt McConnell pulled with trump’s third pick, especially after he denied President Obama his right to fill a vacancy on the Supreme Court by not scheduling any hearings for Garland when President Obama had almost a year left in his term. What McConnell did was steal two Supreme Court picks from a current president and a future president by changing the the norm for his political gain. And I doubt very much people were asking this reporter if President Biden was going to stack the court. But here’s a question. Do you think McConnell was right to deny President Obama’s pick any hearings with almost a year left in his term while pushing through trump’s pick with just weeks before the presidential election was to take place? I don't consider this to be "Democratic wrongdoing." |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 8, 2022 2:10:54 GMT
Oh I see. Double standards. It's OK for conservatives to use whataboutisms but you object when liberals do it. Any whataboutism is OK if you're conservative but what about Trump is unacceptable. Got it. Just stop. Really. I'm not the one that has a problem with whataboutism, only that I got hand slapped for doing it last year and now you all suddenly have no problem doing it and you want to turn it back on me now. This a link to ALL of my posts with "whataboutism" mentioned. Scroll all the way to the bottom and see who started all of this whataboutism BS. It wasn't me. It was you. link
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 8, 2022 2:20:30 GMT
I would like to know what kind of heartless monster you have to be to offhandedly claim that "there's a catalyst for everything" in response to a tweet that casually justifies a 10 year old girl being required to bear her rapist's child because liberals were mean. Did anyone actually read the thread I posted?? Or was that just too much damn trouble in the face of looking for one more chance to own the libs? A 10 year old is an acceptable casualty to these people and we're told "there's a catalyst for everything." JFC. Don't ask why people block you when that is your heartless and brainless response. But why should we be surprised, when the response of the right to school shootings of 9 and 10 year olds is to post memes about how they lubricate their AR-15s with liberal tears (or worse). They're willing to make children pay for the supposed sins of liberals. Oh my God! I did not respond to that. I have never seen that. That was NOT on your OP or any of your posts that followed. I read the picture you provided. It was enough to get your point across, I didn't see the need to clicked on it, so I clicked on it now and I still don't see that post you're telling me I responded to. WTH is wrong with you that you continually have to paint me as a monster. And with things that aren't even true. Why can't you just talk and discuss like a normal person? Why is it so hard for you to accept or even just walk away from someone that has a different opinion? Why do you go to such lengths to demonize opposing opinion or even facts? And why the hell do people support this? |
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Post by Sarah*H on Jul 8, 2022 2:34:08 GMT
This is a genuine question - do you think that your posts/responses on this board are a normal, standard style of communication and discussion?
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Post by Merge on Jul 8, 2022 2:50:00 GMT
I would like to know what kind of heartless monster you have to be to offhandedly claim that "there's a catalyst for everything" in response to a tweet that casually justifies a 10 year old girl being required to bear her rapist's child because liberals were mean. Did anyone actually read the thread I posted?? Or was that just too much damn trouble in the face of looking for one more chance to own the libs? A 10 year old is an acceptable casualty to these people and we're told "there's a catalyst for everything." JFC. Don't ask why people block you when that is your heartless and brainless response. But why should we be surprised, when the response of the right to school shootings of 9 and 10 year olds is to post memes about how they lubricate their AR-15s with liberal tears (or worse). They're willing to make children pay for the supposed sins of liberals. Oh my God! I did not respond to that. I have never seen that. That was NOT on your OP or any of your posts that followed. I read the picture you provided. It was enough to get your point across, I didn't see the need to clicked on it, so I clicked on it now and I still don't see that post you're telling me I responded to. WTH is wrong with you that you continually have to paint me as a monster. And with things that aren't even true. Why can't you just talk and discuss like a normal person? Why is it so hard for you to accept or even just walk away from someone that has a different opinion? Why do you go to such lengths to demonize opposing opinion or even facts? And why the hell do people support this? I posted a link to the thread and pointed out that the responses were also interesting. These were the first two links in the thread. I mentioned the *thread* in several subsequent posts and asked you point blank if you’d read it. You couldn’t be bothered to click though and read what I was bringing up; instead you had to jump on the comment at the end and make assumptions out of context about what I was saying. I don’t think I’m the one who can’t have a normal conversation. There is something wrong with YOU. Always looking for the way in which you are supposedly persecuted instead of actually reading what people are saying. Re: accepting and walking away. You posted here on a thread I started, didn’t bother to read the linked thread, and then jumped down our throats about what you assumed the point to be. Look in the mirror and take your own advice. You are too self-absorbed and narrow-minded to have anything approaching a normal conversation. That’s why people here block you. And why the hell would any sane person “accept” that it’s OK to punish innocent women and children because you hate liberals? That’s not a difference of opinion. That’s just wrong. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 8, 2022 3:44:43 GMT
Oh I see. Double standards. It's OK for conservatives to use whataboutisms but you object when liberals do it. Any whataboutism is OK if you're conservative but what about Trump is unacceptable. Got it. Just stop. Really. I'm not the one that has a problem with whataboutism, only that I got hand slapped for doing it last year and now you all suddenly have no problem doing it and you want to turn it back on me now. This a link to ALL of my posts with "whataboutism" mentioned. Scroll all the way to the bottom and see who started all of this whataboutism BS. It wasn't me. It was you. link
Why can't you just have a normal conversation? Like a normal human being? I have no problem if it's a fair comparison and a fair equivalence. Most of the ones you post are not. Frequently, whataboutisms are also used as deflections from conservatives, refusals to acknowledge any right wing person made a mistake or did something wrong. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 8, 2022 17:08:51 GMT
Oh my God! I did not respond to that. I have never seen that. That was NOT on your OP or any of your posts that followed. I read the picture you provided. It was enough to get your point across, I didn't see the need to clicked on it, so I clicked on it now and I still don't see that post you're telling me I responded to. WTH is wrong with you that you continually have to paint me as a monster. And with things that aren't even true. Why can't you just talk and discuss like a normal person? Why is it so hard for you to accept or even just walk away from someone that has a different opinion? Why do you go to such lengths to demonize opposing opinion or even facts? And why the hell do people support this? I posted a link to the thread and pointed out that the responses were also interesting. These were the first two links in the thread. I mentioned the *thread* in several subsequent posts and asked you point blank if you’d read it. You couldn’t be bothered to click though and read what I was bringing up; instead you had to jump on the comment at the end and make assumptions out of context about what I was saying. I don’t think I’m the one who can’t have a normal conversation. There is something wrong with YOU. Always looking for the way in which you are supposedly persecuted instead of actually reading what people are saying. Re: accepting and walking away. You posted here on a thread I started, didn’t bother to read the linked thread, and then jumped down our throats about what you assumed the point to be. Look in the mirror and take your own advice. You are too self-absorbed and narrow-minded to have anything approaching a normal conversation. That’s why people here block you. And why the hell would any sane person “accept” that it’s OK to punish innocent women and children because you hate liberals? That’s not a difference of opinion. That’s just wrong. instead you had to jump on the comment at the end and make assumptions out of context about what I was saying. I don’t think I’m the one who can’t have a normal conversation. There is something wrong with YOU. You know, I wasn't going to bring up all the times you do that, because really this has nothing to do with that. At all. BUT you keep saying things like this and seem to be enjoying painting me as a monster for doing it and making it out that it shows something wrong with ME because I answered in a way you could use in that way. You either have no self awareness or you think it's okay for you and not anyone else. There have been many times you do it, but the most jolting was last year on my thread link
Why is it okay for you, but something is wrong with me if I do it? You are too self-absorbed and narrow-minded to have anything approaching a normal conversation. That’s why people here block you. No. If that were the case, they'd block you. The reason they block me is because I have the wrong opinion, facts that don't support some claims, won't sit down and shut up when told to. And mostly because of hundreds of posts like yours that paint me as a monster and something is wrong with me. This one just happens to blatantly come right out and say it. I'M not the monster here. then jumped down our throats about what you assumed the point to be. Read my posts again, this time without your bigoted bias. I jumped down no one's throat. Not even now when you stooped SO low down and dirty. And why the hell would any sane person “accept” that it’s OK to punish innocent women and children because you hate liberals? That’s not a difference of opinion. That’s just wrong. Where in the hell did you see me say such a thing? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2022 17:40:17 GMT
pixiechick What is your end goal here? I constantly see you spinning your wheels in outrage. But there's rarely a point in your discussion with all of the circles you talk in. What do you benefit from being here? I still cannot figure that out. Please enlighten me. Bonus points if you can do it eloquently.
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Post by Merge on Jul 8, 2022 18:44:42 GMT
I posted a link to the thread and pointed out that the responses were also interesting. These were the first two links in the thread. I mentioned the *thread* in several subsequent posts and asked you point blank if you’d read it. You couldn’t be bothered to click though and read what I was bringing up; instead you had to jump on the comment at the end and make assumptions out of context about what I was saying. I don’t think I’m the one who can’t have a normal conversation. There is something wrong with YOU. Always looking for the way in which you are supposedly persecuted instead of actually reading what people are saying. Re: accepting and walking away. You posted here on a thread I started, didn’t bother to read the linked thread, and then jumped down our throats about what you assumed the point to be. Look in the mirror and take your own advice. You are too self-absorbed and narrow-minded to have anything approaching a normal conversation. That’s why people here block you. And why the hell would any sane person “accept” that it’s OK to punish innocent women and children because you hate liberals? That’s not a difference of opinion. That’s just wrong. instead you had to jump on the comment at the end and make assumptions out of context about what I was saying. I don’t think I’m the one who can’t have a normal conversation. There is something wrong with YOU. You know, I wasn't going to bring up all the times you do that, because really this has nothing to do with that. At all. BUT you keep saying things like this and seem to be enjoying painting me as a monster for doing it and making it out that it shows something wrong with ME because I answered in a way you could use in that way. You either have no self awareness or you think it's okay for you and not anyone else. There have been many times you do it, but the most jolting was last year on my thread link
Why is it okay for you, but something is wrong with me if I do it? You are too self-absorbed and narrow-minded to have anything approaching a normal conversation. That’s why people here block you. No. If that were the case, they'd block you. The reason they block me is because I have the wrong opinion, facts that don't support some claims, won't sit down and shut up when told to. And mostly because of hundreds of posts like yours that paint me as a monster and something is wrong with me. This one just happens to blatantly come right out and say it. I'M not the monster here. then jumped down our throats about what you assumed the point to be. Read my posts again, this time without your bigoted bias. I jumped down no one's throat. Not even now when you stooped SO low down and dirty. And why the hell would any sane person “accept” that it’s OK to punish innocent women and children because you hate liberals? That’s not a difference of opinion. That’s just wrong. Where in the hell did you see me say such a thing? You’re absolutely delusional, Gia, making yourself out to be a victim all the time. I initially responded to you at all against my better judgement and now I’m done. Have a nice life as I won’t be wasting a single second of precious time on you again. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 8, 2022 23:09:35 GMT
You know, I wasn't going to bring up all the times you do that, because really this has nothing to do with that. At all. BUT you keep saying things like this and seem to be enjoying painting me as a monster for doing it and making it out that it shows something wrong with ME because I answered in a way you could use in that way. You either have no self awareness or you think it's okay for you and not anyone else. There have been many times you do it, but the most jolting was last year on my thread link
Why is it okay for you, but something is wrong with me if I do it? No. If that were the case, they'd block you. The reason they block me is because I have the wrong opinion, facts that don't support some claims, won't sit down and shut up when told to. And mostly because of hundreds of posts like yours that paint me as a monster and something is wrong with me. This one just happens to blatantly come right out and say it. I'M not the monster here. Read my posts again, this time without your bigoted bias. I jumped down no one's throat. Not even now when you stooped SO low down and dirty. Where in the hell did you see me say such a thing? You’re absolutely delusional, Gia, making yourself out to be a victim all the time. I initially responded to you at all against my better judgement and now I’m done. Have a nice life as I won’t be wasting a single second of precious time on you again. Great! Then I can participate more on topic and less with this kind of crap. Perfect for all. I'm not delusional, that's nothing but a smear when you have to look at your hypocrisy. And calling out your bullshit doesn't make me a victim. Just another smear from you. |
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