Ohno
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Post by Ohno on Aug 15, 2022 20:16:01 GMT
Apparently someone hurt Janet’s feelings? Anyone know?
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Aug 15, 2022 20:24:23 GMT
What is RTS?
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Post by Embri on Aug 15, 2022 20:30:10 GMT
If this was video games, I'd say "real time strategy", but seems doubtful in context. No idea what's going on. More details please, OP?
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naby64
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Post by naby64 on Aug 15, 2022 21:21:28 GMT
It's more like Janet's feelings can get hurt very easily. I don't know the initial blow-up and now 2-3 posts that would have shown some more light on the subject have been deleted. I do know she deleted all of her free Patreon and when someone said they couldn't find them, another creator stated that they were deleted by the the channel creator. To which Janet jumped on the person making the deleted comment.
I have been on the receiving end of Janet's victimhood. Things are not always clear as water.
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Post by BSnyder on Aug 15, 2022 21:27:25 GMT
I have no idea! Facebook makes it almost impossible to find things in the timeline, as it isn't chronologically ordered, nor does it show every post in the timeline. Admins said the "offending" post wasn't deleted to serve as a lesson, but in a quick search, I can't seem to find it. However, without being able to find that original offending post, the "clean-up" seems to be over the top, potentially much more dramatic and damaging than the offending event itself. I believe a quick deletion and the suspension of the offending poster and moving on would have been a better way to go, rather than the vague and reprimanding statements that followed.
I am not condoning bad behavior toward a prolific content creator, Janet offers a ton to the scrappy community and I appreciate her contributions, but I am not willing to jump to judgement, based on hearsay and limited information. The emotion-ridden posts and comments that have followed seem to be adding more fuel to a situation that could have been swiftly taken care of, adding toxic positive positivity to the mix. This is fueling the negative feelings for the many of us that wouldn't have noticed otherwise and have no idea what really happened.
Up until now RTS seems to be great scrapbooking group. I hope this blows over soon and that Janet continues to enjoy her contributions and recognizes that there are many who appreciate what she does, as well as many that appreciate the creation and hosting of the RTS group by it's admin.
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Post by naby64 on Aug 15, 2022 21:31:00 GMT
I have no idea! Facebook makes it almost impossible to find things in the timeline, as it isn't chronologically ordered, nor does it show every post in the timeline. Admins said the "offending" post wasn't deleted to serve as a lesson, but in a quick search, I can't seem to find it. However, without being able to find that original offending post, the "clean-up" seems to be over the top, potentially much more dramatic and damaging than the offending event itself. I believe a quick deletion and the suspension of the offending poster and moving on would have been a better way to go, rather than the vague and reprimanding statements that followed. I am not condoning bad behavior toward a prolific content creator, Janet offers a ton to the scrappy community and I appreciate her contributions, but I am not willing to jump to judgement, based on hearsay and limited information. The emotion-ridden posts and comments that have followed seem to be adding more fuel to a situation that could have been swiftly taken care of, adding toxic positive positivity to the mix. This is fueling the negative feelings for the many of us that wouldn't have noticed otherwise and have no idea what really happened. Up until now RTS seems to be great scrapbooking group. I hope this blows over soon and that Janet continues to enjoy her contributions and recognizes that there are many who appreciate what she does, as well as many that appreciate the creation and hosting of the RTS group by it's admin. I saw the OP and it was sort of hand-slappy but not offensive. It quickly became out of hand and very hand-slappy in the comments. Admin did say they turned off comments but were going to leave it be. As of today, the OP and at least 2 others that I read have been deleted. It's like if anything could be negative, it is GONE! POOF!
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Post by Embri on Aug 15, 2022 21:53:37 GMT
It's like if anything could be negative, it is GONE! POOF! The floggings shall continue until morale improves! vibes. Looks like "RTS" is short for "Record the Story" in case anyone else was confused. Patreon page is all kinds of 'look at me, I'm so religious' language and the only things allowed are back pats and 'atta girl' accolades. Yiiikes.
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Elsabelle
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Post by Elsabelle on Aug 15, 2022 22:02:51 GMT
Did this happen in the Love RTS FB group? She has some fierce supporters. It gets a little weird sometimes. I'm not in that group anymore so I wouldn't have seen anything. naby64 , do you mean she deleted all of her youtube videos? Edit I just went and looked and she sure did delete all of her yt videos. What on earth happened?
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 15, 2022 22:11:12 GMT
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Elsabelle
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Post by Elsabelle on Aug 15, 2022 22:20:06 GMT
IIRC, someone here posted about Janet being a regular poster on another message board. She (possibly hairflipped?) deleted all of her messages there and left the board. Anyone remember that?
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 15, 2022 22:24:19 GMT
IIRC, someone here posted about Janet being a regular poster on another message board. She (possibly hairflipped?) deleted all of her messages there and left the board. Anyone remember that? I do remember that. I think maybe she left the og 2 peas too, didn't she?
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Post by steakgoddess on Aug 15, 2022 22:24:55 GMT
The original (?) post that was locked, then deleted was someone talking about how they were at an online crop and it was great until they started speaking negatively about some YouTuber and they were so glad they had this forum that was uplifting and yadda yadda. Said they wouldn’t say which YouTuber was running this online crop, but gave a hint that I assume could easily be googled. Something about a 40 (?) Week Challenge. That didn’t mean anything to me, but I guess some people knew what online crop and YouTuber Host it was from that.
Apparently the comments went way downhill but I never went back to read them.
Today, someone posted what happened to the RTS videos on YouTube? Another poster said that Janet removed them. Janet asked them not to communicate about her and the poster asked for a private conversation and was denied. I’m not sure if that poster was the same YouTube Crop Host.
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Post by naby64 on Aug 15, 2022 22:25:09 GMT
it was not even back and forth. It was just a matter of statement that Janet didn't like. And another poster backed up first poster. Both were deleted and blocked from the FB group. Elsabelle yep that is what happened. I was involved. I called her out for being bossy and telling "grown ass women" how to interact on a message board. She didn't like that. She went so far as to write me a letter and send it stating how wrong I was, how I hurt her feelings, etc.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 15, 2022 22:31:12 GMT
Janet right now:
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Elsabelle
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Post by Elsabelle on Aug 15, 2022 22:34:40 GMT
IIRC, someone here posted about Janet being a regular poster on another message board. She (possibly hairflipped?) deleted all of her messages there and left the board. Anyone remember that? I do remember that. I think maybe she left the og 2 peas too, didn't she? I know she used to post there but don't know if she hair flipped. Elsabelle yep that is what happened. I was involved. I called her out for being bossy and telling "grown ass women" how to interact on a message board. She didn't like that. She went so far as to write me a letter and send it stating how wrong I was, how I hurt her feelings, etc. I just can't even...
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 15, 2022 22:37:29 GMT
I do remember that. I think maybe she left the og 2 peas too, didn't she? I know she used to post there but don't know if she hair flipped. Elsabelle yep that is what happened. I was involved. I called her out for being bossy and telling "grown ass women" how to interact on a message board. She didn't like that. She went so far as to write me a letter and send it stating how wrong I was, how I hurt her feelings, etc. I just can't even... I don't think she hair flipped, just that she left over something small. I could be totally off base though! Don't take my word for it. Did she ever post on here?
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Post by hrod on Aug 15, 2022 22:38:09 GMT
Janet actually said “I will leave this hobby as you and others want” in one of the deleted threads. All because she *thinks* someone said something bad about her at the online crop. NO ONE asked the person who hosted what really happened… just took what the original pot stirrer said as fact (even when people came on and said her post was filled with half truths and lies). It was so gross to watch.
I *did* verify the story with a couple of attendees and they agree the OP was off the mark. But no one really wanted the truth.
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Post by Elsabelle on Aug 15, 2022 22:42:00 GMT
I know she used to post there but don't know if she hair flipped. I just can't even... I don't think she hair flipped, just that she left over something small. I could be totally off base though! Don't take my word for it. Did she ever post on here? Gotcha. If she has posted here I don't think it was under her real name.
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Post by naby64 on Aug 15, 2022 22:47:47 GMT
I don't think she hair flipped, just that she left over something small. I could be totally off base though! Don't take my word for it. Did she ever post on here? Gotcha. If she has posted here I don't think it was under her real name. her board name was always cherrypicker. She never put out her real name until she did the private Patreon group. Maybe she used her real name on YT, I can't remember.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2022 22:50:09 GMT
I remember when Janet left the other group. I'm sorry that there's more drama now. I rarely use facebook, so no idea what happened there. It's too bad Janet deleted the you tube videos. Maybe just temporary but I imagine it would be a lot of work to re-post them. I do belong to Janet's Patreon, I like her videos and for $1 a month, its a good deal. The fan girl comments and God loves you comments are a little too much sometimes, but I rarely read the comments and just skip over those when I do read them. Nothing specific about the drama in the comments on her recent video, just lots of gushing we love you comments.
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Post by naby64 on Aug 15, 2022 22:51:12 GMT
I know she used to post there but don't know if she hair flipped. I just can't even... I don't think she hair flipped, just that she left over something small. I could be totally off base though! Don't take my word for it. Did she ever post on here? I think she did post on the old 2Ps board. However I don't she she hair flipped outta there. Just the other message board. That is where my drama with her occurred.
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Post by BSnyder on Aug 15, 2022 22:59:26 GMT
Gotcha. If she has posted here I don't think it was under her real name. her board name was always cherrypicker. She never put out her real name until she did the private Patreon group. Maybe she used her real name on YT, I can't remember. OMG! I remember cherrypicker as pretty prolific. I am so peripheral I have no idea if there was drama surrounding that user. It’s a shame that something so seemingly small has blown up to something so big, the fallout appearing far bigger that the initial comment.
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Post by Elsabelle on Aug 15, 2022 23:05:29 GMT
Janet actually said “I will leave this hobby as you and others want” in one of the deleted threads. All because she *thinks* someone said something bad about her at the online crop. NO ONE asked the person who hosted what really happened… just took what the original pot stirrer said as fact (even when people came on and said her post was filled with half truths and lies). It was so gross to watch. I *did* verify the story with a couple of attendees and they agree the OP was off the mark. But no one really wanted the truth. That seems incredibly overly dramatic. Gotcha. If she has posted here I don't think it was under her real name. her board name was always cherrypicker. She never put out her real name until she did the private Patreon group. Maybe she used her real name on YT, I can't remember. That username sounds familiar.
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Ohno
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Post by Ohno on Aug 15, 2022 23:10:49 GMT
I have always laughed that she always says she’s on a budget, but people send her HUNDREDS of dollars in merch and gift cards. I want a budget like that! I prefer to watch videos of people who make a layout without telling the watcher what they “should” do.
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Post by Embri on Aug 15, 2022 23:13:20 GMT
Okay okay okay, let me see if I've got this straight...
One anonymous someone said that another (semi?) anonymous someone doing a video may have said something negative, with no other qualifications or context. And that resulted in the aforementioned meltdown and nuclear deletion of an entire YouTube channel's worth of videos?
*slow blinks*
Right then, carry on. I'm going to get a cup of tea.
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Post by Elsabelle on Aug 15, 2022 23:32:32 GMT
Okay okay okay, let me see if I've got this straight... One anonymous someone said that another (semi?) anonymous someone doing a video may have said something negative, with no other qualifications or context. And that resulted in the aforementioned meltdown and nuclear deletion of an entire YouTube channel's worth of videos? *slow blinks* Right then, carry on. I'm going to get a cup of tea. I'm trying to get this right, too. So was the OP on FB trying to suggest that the unknown virtual crop host was badmouthing Janet? Or did I get that wrong?
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Post by naby64 on Aug 15, 2022 23:39:06 GMT
Okay okay okay, let me see if I've got this straight... One anonymous someone said that another (semi?) anonymous someone doing a video may have said something negative, with no other qualifications or context. And that resulted in the aforementioned meltdown and nuclear deletion of an entire YouTube channel's worth of videos? *slow blinks* Right then, carry on. I'm going to get a cup of tea. I'm trying to get this right, too. So was the OP on FB trying to suggest that the unknown virtual crop host was badmouthing Janet? Or did I get that wrong? to the best I could follow on the deleted post, yes. The OP on FB was somewhat pot stirring and hand slapping. There had been a comment or two about Janet and then the group moved on. This happened in the online YT crop. I "know" 3 of the parties involved. The 2 blocked and deleted. Trust me, I am on the 2 blocked sides.
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Post by Margie on Aug 15, 2022 23:43:56 GMT
I don't think she deleted the videos but maybe just made her account private? The only reason I think this is that I went to someone else's video where one of her YT videos was referenced, and it came right up when I clicked the link. Under her video name, it says "Unlisted." I'm on her Patreon, so not sure if that's why it came up for me though.
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Post by hrod on Aug 15, 2022 23:45:15 GMT
Let me see if I can make it clear (but I wasn’t there).
A YT has a small online private crop (open to many, but maybe a dozen attend). Janet comes up in convo for a bit (as does other favorited YTs). Another attendee goes on the RTS FB and blasts said YT (did not mention her name, just enough identifying details) about not lifting up women but tearing them down (does anyone else see the irony here) and that she has unsubscribed and removed herself from the FB group. All the fans jump on board blasting what a horrible person said YT is (based only on OP hearsay). Janet demands that someone tell her who it is because she *knows* this must be about her. And it all goes down from there. Literally, NO ONE asked if this was true just slammed the YT crop host. But a couple attendees said it was with half truths and lies. But their posts meant nothing compared to the OP.
I still can’t get over it. Why didn’t the OP just remove herself and walk away saying this is not for me?
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 15, 2022 23:58:04 GMT
The original (?) post that was locked, then deleted was someone talking about how they were at an online crop and it was great until they started speaking negatively about some YouTuber and they were so glad they had this forum that was uplifting and yadda yadda. Said they wouldn’t say which YouTuber was running this online crop, but gave a hint that I assume could easily be googled. Something about a 40 (?) Week Challenge. That didn’t mean anything to me, but I guess some people knew what online crop and YouTuber Host it was from that. Apparently the comments went way downhill but I never went back to read them. Today, someone posted what happened to the RTS videos on YouTube? Another poster said that Janet removed them. Janet asked them not to communicate about her and the poster asked for a private conversation and was denied. I’m not sure if that poster was the same YouTube Crop Host. Let me see if I have this right. There are 3 parties involved, besides Janet. A RTS member i shall call Regina. A online crop host I shall call Olivia . An unnamed YouTuber we shall call Yolanda. So, Regina posted about how she attended the crop hosted by Olivia and it was fine, but Olivia started badmouthing Yolanda which left a bad taste in Regina‘s mouth. Regina went onto the RTS message board and talked about how that bothered her and she was glad that RTS was a positive space? And while Regina was complaining about Olivia she gave hints about who Yolanda was even though she hadn’t confirmed who Olivia was complaining about? And people figured it out? Why was Janet upset about this? Is she friends with Olivia or Yolanda? Are they members of RTS?
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