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Post by lostwithout2peas on Aug 18, 2022 16:12:32 GMT
Always love a new YouTuber to watch! Can someone PM too?
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Post by wagleg on Aug 18, 2022 16:17:13 GMT
Can someone please send me a link. Thank you.
Edit. Canceled my patreon. She does have some good content, but she's often repetitive (I have no money, etc) Patreon asked my reason.. Janet is a bully!
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Post by wallyagain on Aug 18, 2022 16:25:09 GMT
Can someone please send me the YT name? Thanks.
I had no time for drama crap in high school, I can’t believe it still goes on as grown adults.
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Post by mbanda on Aug 18, 2022 16:48:47 GMT
Can you please send me the YT name as well? I may already sub but just in case, I'd love to show some support!
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pantsonfire
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Take a step back, evaluate what is important, and enjoy your life with those who you love.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 18, 2022 16:53:26 GMT
Back on for a bit so if anyone needs the name PM me. I got all those from page 6 and 7. (Sorry if you already were told)
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Loydene
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Post by Loydene on Aug 18, 2022 17:18:10 GMT
It is looking like Janet has stopped her Patreon feed as well. She was doing this "sorting paper" thing - for 3 days in a row and had been pretty much daily before that -- but it has now been 4 days since new content - which is pretty contemporaneous with the removal of the YouTube free content and the blow up on RTS. In a post in the FB riot, she said something along the lines of "okay, you win, I'll quit" --
I've said that there are a number of things that annoy me with Janet's videos - but her end layout is usually something interesting. But it really makes me wonder about anyone who grants so much power over their own actions to other people. Janet has repeatedly said how much she enjoys scrapbooking, how much she loves her audience - but to simply quit because MAYBE someone might have said something less than adoring and other people PROBABLY laughed ... is so WEAK! Or maybe she is taking all power back by quitting sharing? (But then, I am currently struggling with a "they-don't-like-me" situation -- I am perhaps overthinking it!)
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 18, 2022 17:38:08 GMT
She is certainly reaping what she has sown. Instead of being a grown up, she acted like a child over something super small and blew it way out of proportion.
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Post by stormsts on Aug 18, 2022 17:47:27 GMT
Could I have the YT's name as well, please. I don't follow many but I would love to support her.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 18, 2022 17:48:23 GMT
Her privatising all her public YT videos seemed like a very emotional response to what was initially a non-drama. Withholding now from her Patreon members seems to be in line with this emotional blow-up. I think some time off will likely do her good. She seems to be taking a few simple, vague remarks (that weren't even directly addressing her) far too personally and has blown everything out of propotions. I don't see how she'd just sit down and carry on as usual now.
The group has closed up, demanding people respond with what is essentially a code word or risk automatic rejection. The witch hunt tactics are completely bonkers. It's all gone way too far, way too quickly. Janet was the initial instigator and remains the person at the centre of this high-school madness on steroids. She now has to deal with it one way or another. Stepping back for a bit is probably the wisest thing to do right now as she figures out what she wants to do next and how to handle a group with a significant number of participants. It's got to be stressful but it also is completely of her own doing.
Best of luck to her dealing with what seems to be a pretty fragile state of mind. Unfortunately, other people have suffered from the consequences of her actions and those are the victims here.
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naby64
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Post by naby64 on Aug 18, 2022 18:00:28 GMT
With Patreon being considered a pay thing, she is just cheating the ones that have shelled out the money. I wonder if anyone who paid at the beginning of the month but then don't get "product" will ask for and get a refund? Of $1. I would be petty enough to do that.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 18, 2022 18:22:26 GMT
With Patreon being considered a pay thing, she is just cheating the ones that have shelled out the money. I wonder if anyone who paid at the beginning of the month but then don't get "product" will ask for and get a refund? Of $1. I would be petty enough to do that. She is so far honouring her $1 pledge tier promises (and only available tier). There is no set amount of videos promised, just access to whatever she will deliver. Since she already has posted at least one video in August, she's got her vague offer covered. Some Patreon creators have a far more rigid tier structure in place in which some tiers are promised X amount of videos/podcasts/creations and X amount of exclusive bonuses. That is not Janet's case. Her Patreon tier offer:
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 18, 2022 18:37:32 GMT
With Patreon being considered a pay thing, she is just cheating the ones that have shelled out the money. I wonder if anyone who paid at the beginning of the month but then don't get "product" will ask for and get a refund? Of $1. I would be petty enough to do that. She is so far honouring her $1 pledge tier promises (and only available tier). There is no set amount of videos promised, just access to whatever she will deliver. Since she already has posted at least one video in August, she's got her vague offer covered. Some Patreon creators have a far more rigid tier structure in place in which some tiers are promised X amount of videos/podcasts/creations and X amount of exclusive bonuses. That is not Janet's case. Her Patreon tier offer: So she unwelcomed herself. LOL
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Post by scraphappy0501 on Aug 18, 2022 18:55:05 GMT
If it's not too late, could you please message me the YTer's name as well so I can subscribe to her channel? Thanks!
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Elsabelle
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Post by Elsabelle on Aug 18, 2022 19:27:42 GMT
I hope Yolivia is feeling the love and support and is less unsettled by this nonsense. Janet's reaction and the reaction of her whole group was way over the top and wildly overly emotional. This could have happened to any one of us that commented on the YouTube pet peeves threads. Imagine a whole group turning on you and messaging threats because you have a pet peeve. The irrational goodbye cold cruel world reaction is off to say the least.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 18, 2022 19:28:15 GMT
It is looking like Janet has stopped her Patreon feed as well. She was doing this "sorting paper" thing - for 3 days in a row and had been pretty much daily before that -- but it has now been 4 days since new content - which is pretty contemporaneous with the removal of the YouTube free content and the blow up on RTS. In a post in the FB riot, she said something along the lines of "okay, you win, I'll quit" -- I've said that there are a number of things that annoy me with Janet's videos - but her end layout is usually something interesting. But it really makes me wonder about anyone who grants so much power over their own actions to other people. Janet has repeatedly said how much she enjoys scrapbooking, how much she loves her audience - but to simply quit because MAYBE someone might have said something less than adoring and other people PROBABLY laughed ... is so WEAK! Or maybe she is taking all power back by quitting sharing? (But then, I am currently struggling with a "they-don't-like-me" situation -- I am perhaps overthinking it!) IIRC in the last video (posted before the drama?), she said something about I'll be back in a few days.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 18, 2022 19:33:22 GMT
Can someone please send me a link. Thank you. Edit. Canceled my patreon. She does have some good content, but she's often repetitive (I have no money, etc) Patreon asked my reason.. Janet is a bully! Complete side note - the everything is so expensive these days has been a little over the top lately. I know inflation is terrible and hurting everyone. We're all seeing increases in not just scrapbook supplies but groceries and household items. Her frequent complaining about price increases and a few other things makes me wonder about her politics, though. Or I could be completely off base and reading too much into it.
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pantsonfire
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Take a step back, evaluate what is important, and enjoy your life with those who you love.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 18, 2022 19:50:42 GMT
If it's not too late, could you please message me the YTer's name as well so I can subscribe to her channel? Thanks! Sent it to you.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 18, 2022 20:24:32 GMT
Her frequent complaining about price increases and a few other things If you have a budget for $$ for crafting supplies, then you either stick to it, get more inventive with how you use the supplies you do have / be more creative somehow with the supplies you DO buy, or you just don't buy as much stuff. Honestly, this is something that never sat well with me about her videos... The fact that FB group members / YT commenters, whoever- were sending her gift cards or actual product kind of annoyed me, personally. It's one thing if you're getting materials from a company, if you're an actual company DT member... but why did / do random people feel like she needed them to send her things or $$?? It's not her, I guess, so much as them that I'm annoyed by... the whole thing just rubbed me the wrong way.
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Post by quinmm14 on Aug 18, 2022 20:26:08 GMT
Can someone please send me a link. Thank you. Edit. Canceled my patreon. She does have some good content, but she's often repetitive (I have no money, etc) Patreon asked my reason.. Janet is a bully! Complete side note - the everything is so expensive these days has been a little over the top lately. I know inflation is terrible and hurting everyone. We're all seeing increases in not just scrapbook supplies but groceries and household items. Her frequent complaining about price increases and a few other things makes me wonder about her politics, though. Or I could be completely off base and reading too much into it. I don't understand why anyone who gets paid for content, and I get a dollar isn't a lot, but times how many subbers? Let's say three hundred, I could get a crap ton of scrappy things in a month's time. Just sayin. And why would you keep complaining about price increases? That's uncomfortable for me to hear. And especially when you're encouraging scrappers to use what you have instead of purchasing new items. I've watched many of her YT videos where she's spoken about being frozen. And that's fine, you do you. But to keep remarking on this sounds like what? A poor me, send me things, supplies, gift cards and I'll mention you on my video? That makes me cringey to listen to. Again, just my thoughts, others may not take issue with this.
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Post by Embri on Aug 18, 2022 20:56:00 GMT
but why did / do random people feel like she needed them to send her things- Para-social relationships. Basically, when you have a public personality that cultivates a relationship with the audience with content that seems to address them personally - even when said personality does not know the individual - it can form a para-social relationship where the audience feels that the content producer is their friend. It's not strange for friends to give other friends gifts, which is why they're sending things to her. Especially if they're getting acknowledgement of those gifts (lists of Patreon subscribers shown publicly / on videos, unboxing of donations videos, posts about gift mail, etc.)
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Elsabelle
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Post by Elsabelle on Aug 18, 2022 22:19:29 GMT
but why did / do random people feel like she needed them to send her things- Para-social relationships. Basically, when you have a public personality that cultivates a relationship with the audience with content that seems to address them personally - even when said personality does not know the individual - it can form a para-social relationship where the audience feels that the content producer is their friend. It's not strange for friends to give other friends gifts, which is why they're sending things to her. Especially if they're getting acknowledgement of those gifts (lists of Patreon subscribers shown publicly / on videos, unboxing of donations videos, posts about gift mail, etc.) I agree that these women feel like Janet is their friend, they really want to be friends with her, or they feel a part of something. And maybe they are friends. Who knows? I don't know if they communicate outside of fb and patreon and are really friends. But they way they speak to her so adoringly is...interesting. Someone in the comments on one of her videos said she's the light of their life. Maybe people who are in need of some kind of connection are drawn to her.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Aug 18, 2022 22:27:29 GMT
I replied to all my PMs for the name. If you still need to know, shoot me a PM.
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Chinagirl828
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Aug 18, 2022 22:37:42 GMT
Her frequent complaining about price increases and a few other things If you have a budget for $$ for crafting supplies, then you either stick to it, get more inventive with how you use the supplies you do have / be more creative somehow with the supplies you DO buy, or you just don't buy as much stuff. Honestly, this is something that never sat well with me about her videos... The fact that FB group members / YT commenters, whoever- were sending her gift cards or actual product kind of annoyed me, personally. It's one thing if you're getting materials from a company, if you're an actual company DT member... but why did / do random people feel like she needed them to send her things or $$?? It's not her, I guess, so much as them that I'm annoyed by... the whole thing just rubbed me the wrong way. I've always been irrationally rubbed the wrong way by this too, especially as she will complain about how things are so expensive while showing off 6 brand new collection packs, one of which she bought two packs of. I think she's offered some practical advice on keeping within a budget, sharing how to get the most out of a collection by buying only one or two pieces and then building a knock off collection around those, but the constant complaining about how expensive everything is annoys me, especially as an international who can sometimes buy products from the US, including the paying international shipping, cheaper than I can buy them locally.
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cycworker
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Post by cycworker on Aug 19, 2022 0:51:16 GMT
Can I get the name? I am always looking for new people to follow. Also, I would like the ingredients for a mule. Thank you very much. I will also accept mimosa ingredients. MuleIngredients 2 oz. vodka 1/2 oz. lime juice, freshly squeezed 6 oz. ginger beer Directions Squeeze lime juice into a copper mug (or a Collins glass) and drop in the spent shell. Add ice cubes, then pour in the vodka and fill with cold ginger beer. Serve with a stirring rod. MimosaI like to do equal parts tangerine juice and prosecco. Sometimes, I'll go heavier on the Prosecco. If there is nothing else to do that day. Why a copper mug? And what is a Collins glass? Let the record show that both Tahkillya, as we call it, & Gin are vile.
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naby64
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Post by naby64 on Aug 19, 2022 1:09:13 GMT
cycworker Supposedly the copper mug keeps it cooler. I've never used one. A collins glass is still tall skinny glass.
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Post by mom on Aug 19, 2022 1:50:49 GMT
Complete side note - the everything is so expensive these days has been a little over the top lately. I know inflation is terrible and hurting everyone. We're all seeing increases in not just scrapbook supplies but groceries and household items. Her frequent complaining about price increases and a few other things makes me wonder about her politics, though. Or I could be completely off base and reading too much into it. I don't understand why anyone who gets paid for content, and I get a dollar isn't a lot, but times how many subbers? Let's say three hundred, I could get a crap ton of scrappy things in a month's time. Just sayin.And why would you keep complaining about price increases? That's uncomfortable for me to hear. And especially when you're encouraging scrappers to use what you have instead of purchasing new items. I've watched many of her YT videos where she's spoken about being frozen. And that's fine, you do you. But to keep remarking on this sounds like what? A poor me, send me things, supplies, gift cards and I'll mention you on my video? That makes me cringey to listen to. Again, just my thoughts, others may not take issue with this. She has over 333 subscribers this month because one post of hers on Patreon has 333 likes. And not everyone 'likes' the posts (I never do). Inkie Quill tells you how many subscribers over there she has, but RTS hides that info.
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 19, 2022 2:49:46 GMT
I wonder how much it costs to host on Patreon.
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Post by Embri on Aug 19, 2022 3:28:43 GMT
I wonder how much it costs to host on Patreon. www.patreon.com/pricing5%-12% of your donations, depending on what tier of ... support? I guess? you choose.
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Post by quinmm14 on Aug 19, 2022 9:43:28 GMT
I don't understand why anyone who gets paid for content, and I get a dollar isn't a lot, but times how many subbers? Let's say three hundred, I could get a crap ton of scrappy things in a month's time. Just sayin.And why would you keep complaining about price increases? That's uncomfortable for me to hear. And especially when you're encouraging scrappers to use what you have instead of purchasing new items. I've watched many of her YT videos where she's spoken about being frozen. And that's fine, you do you. But to keep remarking on this sounds like what? A poor me, send me things, supplies, gift cards and I'll mention you on my video? That makes me cringey to listen to. Again, just my thoughts, others may not take issue with this. She has over 333 subscribers this month because one post of hers on Patreon has 333 likes. And not everyone 'likes' the posts (I never do). Inkie Quill tells you how many subscribers over there she has, but RTS hides that info. Why hide that though? That seems pretty sketch to me.
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schroema
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Post by schroema on Aug 19, 2022 11:24:55 GMT
I’d like the YouTube info- I need some new creators to watch.
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