caseyd1966
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Dec 17, 2014 17:58:30 GMT
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Post by caseyd1966 on Aug 19, 2022 11:58:28 GMT
Longtime lurker here. I would love to know the youtube channel so I can go show my support. Can someone pm me please?
ETA - Thanks for pm. I've watched many of her videos. Time to subscribe!
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lovetoscrap
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Jul 10, 2016 21:59:08 GMT
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Post by lovetoscrap on Aug 19, 2022 14:24:03 GMT
Late to the party. If someone could pm me the YouTuber. I’ve already opted out of the Facebook group and would love to show my support. Edited to add - ] Thank you for the name!!! Off to check it out.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 19, 2022 15:20:39 GMT
Para-social relationships. Basically, when you have a public personality that cultivates a relationship with the audience with content that seems to address them personally - even when said personality does not know the individual - it can form a para-social relationship where the audience feels that the content producer is their friend. thank you for the explanation! Obviously, I've never felt like that about any of the content providers I watch, so I truly didn't understand.
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laurap
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Feb 25, 2016 12:57:39 GMT
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Post by laurap on Aug 19, 2022 15:49:44 GMT
Longtime lurker here. I would love to know the youtube channel so I can go show my support. Can someone pm me please? Same! Can someone please PM me? I found one of my fav scrappers because of a bunch of drama!
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Post by kmage on Aug 19, 2022 16:08:35 GMT
Obviously, I've never felt like that about any of the content providers I watch, so I truly didn't understand. I would say I feel the same except...lol...Shimelle did not do a live or post a video this Monday. I know she is busy with kid stuff and said things would be spotty, but it was weird and Monday did not feel like Monday without my morning scrapalong lol. In my head I was like, "hey, where are you?? Miss ya!" BUT-I don't feel like I know her personally and while she is friendly I certainly don't feel like we are friends. I certainly would not send gifts as that would be weird. It is an odd feeling though, to miss someone you don't actually know.
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artbabe
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Jun 26, 2014 1:59:10 GMT
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Post by artbabe on Aug 19, 2022 16:32:33 GMT
MuleIngredients 2 oz. vodka 1/2 oz. lime juice, freshly squeezed 6 oz. ginger beer Directions Squeeze lime juice into a copper mug (or a Collins glass) and drop in the spent shell. Add ice cubes, then pour in the vodka and fill with cold ginger beer. Serve with a stirring rod. MimosaI like to do equal parts tangerine juice and prosecco. Sometimes, I'll go heavier on the Prosecco. If there is nothing else to do that day. Why a copper mug? And what is a Collins glass? Let the record show that both Tahkillya, as we call it, & Gin are vile. Yes, I would like someone to send me the vodka. I have the recipe. Mules are traditionally served in copper mugs. I have no idea why, except it makes you look cool. I especially like mules that include muddled fresh ginger or ginger liquor but any are good. Because I want to be able to make a mule in a pinch, I'll even settle for bottled lime juice. I keep some for mule emergencies. Garnish with a lime wedge, or if you are really fancy, candied ginger. The more ginger in the drink, the better. I've had them in a Collins glass and I've even had one in a mason jar. All are lovely. Oh, and they are called Kiev Mules now. To hell with the Russians. And thank you to the people who sent me her name. I've now subscribed.
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dlcharron
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Nov 3, 2018 3:37:08 GMT
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Post by dlcharron on Aug 19, 2022 16:49:00 GMT
Would love to know the name of the YT. Thanks!
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pantsonfire
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Jun 19, 2022 16:48:04 GMT
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 19, 2022 17:18:05 GMT
Obviously, I've never felt like that about any of the content providers I watch, so I truly didn't understand. I would say I feel the same except...lol...Shimelle did not do a live or post a video this Monday. I know she is busy with kid stuff and said things would be spotty, but it was weird and Monday did not feel like Monday without my morning scrapalong lol. In my head I was like, "hey, where are you?? Miss ya!" BUT-I don't feel like I know her personally and while she is friendly I certainly don't feel like we are friends. I certainly would not send gifts as that would be weird. It is an odd feeling though, to miss someone you don't actually know. I was that way when Shelly left YouTube. It was strange because I had watched her videos all those years and then boom, she was gone. I watch YT here and there, mainly for crafting and recipes. But a few do say "hi friends" and talk to the camera as they were talking to a person IRL.
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Post by cheezitgirl on Aug 19, 2022 17:27:35 GMT
What kind of social phenomenon is it when an onlooker knows no one involved in a situation but still wants to know the name of the YT channel? I have that condition. Lol If some could PM me that would be greatly appreciated!
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mzhammy
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May 18, 2022 4:08:12 GMT
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Post by mzhammy on Aug 19, 2022 18:06:22 GMT
Could someone send me the YTer as well? PS I'm just a lurker but artbabe, you changed your profile pic, it's super cute! (now i feel like a stalker haha)
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Post by quinmm14 on Aug 19, 2022 18:17:30 GMT
Why a copper mug? And what is a Collins glass? Let the record show that both Tahkillya, as we call it, & Gin are vile. Yes, I would like someone to send me the vodka. I have the recipe. Mules are traditionally served in copper mugs. I have no idea why, except it makes you look cool. I especially like mules that include muddled fresh ginger or ginger liquor but any are good. Because I want to be able to make a mule in a pinch, I'll even settle for bottled lime juice. I keep some for mule emergencies. Garnish with a lime wedge, or if you are really fancy, candied ginger. The more ginger in the drink, the better. I've had them in a Collins glass and I've even had one in a mason jar. All are lovely. Oh, and they are called Kiev Mules now. To hell with the Russians. And thank you to the people who sent me her name. I've now subscribed. Damn. Now I want ginger liquor. 😀
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crabbybear
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Jul 27, 2018 14:56:32 GMT
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Post by crabbybear on Aug 19, 2022 18:24:15 GMT
What kind of social phenomenon is it when an onlooker knows no one involved in a situation but still wants to know the name of the YT channel? I have that condition. Lol If some could PM me that would be greatly appreciated! I identify with this! lol
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msliz
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Jun 26, 2014 21:32:34 GMT
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Post by msliz on Aug 19, 2022 19:56:26 GMT
Could someone send me the YTer as well? PS I'm just a lurker but artbabe, you changed your profile pic, it's super cute! (now i feel like a stalker haha) Strongly agree. Artbabe! Lookin good
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Post by brenda89 on Aug 19, 2022 21:25:25 GMT
Please message me the YT
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Post by Embri on Aug 19, 2022 22:20:59 GMT
Para-social relationships are really quite interesting, or at least I think they are. Admittedly I'm no better than your average citizen in psychology knowledge but from observation and experience it's more likely to happen with younger audiences and those with weaker social ties. Basically, if your brain is underdeveloped or lonely you're much more susceptible to para-social relationships. For profit religions (think televangelists) exploit para-social relationships to get their money. Double whammy in fact because they use both themselves and the "they are a direct line to god" baloney to prey on people.
Not all para-social relationships are necessarily bad; you see them a lot in kid's TV where the character(s) address the audience directly to promote engagement. As a child I actually remember finding this kind of creepy. I was aware I was watching a broadcast and the people on TV were not, in fact, talking to me. Nor did I much care for being talked down to/with simplified language. My cousins and classmates seemed to like it though, so I was just an odd duck.
Para-social relationships do have the tendency to turn rabid when paired up with tribalism (competing bands, fandoms, social groups, religions, YouTubers, etc.) The bigger the group the worse it is.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 19, 2022 23:03:42 GMT
Parasocial relationships and how to use (AKA manipulate) your target audience to earn their loyal support is the standard marketing strategy. I work in a sector where learning how to build those bridges and give the impression to your customers that they are in the inner circle (top of the relationship pyramid) is an everyday practice.
What's sad in this particular context is that the brand here is not one that seems to be in control of the extent of the parasocial interaction. Janet herself seems to be relying on this relationship for her own identity formation. This is where the game becomes dangerous. Her ego (just like some contemporary "politicians" that may easily come to mind) is in charge and is driving up the emotional factor way beyond what is ethically responsible or defendable. It's a form of tribalistic codependency. The stakes have now been raised far beyond what is reasonable for sales practices (she is, after all, driving a sales model even if it's "only 1 dollar a month" - the low price point is her strategy to make money by accumulating a very large dedicated group rather than a small but higher-paying one). There is no room left for common sense, individual thought or time (the code word to type out ASAP to "prove" your loyalty comes to mind especially).
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Post by Embri on Aug 19, 2022 23:23:56 GMT
What's sad in this particular context is that the brand here is not one that seems to be in control of the extent of the parasocial interaction. That's a very good point, and definitely odd. Most parasocial relationships are driven from the "leader" to the "flock", not the other way around. Though there's almost always some ego boosting reward loop going on too.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 19, 2022 23:28:48 GMT
Oh my what a mess.
I am curious if I follow the you tuber though
I used to follow RTS YouTube but did not jump when she went to patreon. Yeah, it’s only a dollar but there’s more free content out there than I can ever consume so I didn’t join.
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lurkernomo
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Aug 20, 2022 1:37:19 GMT
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Post by lurkernomo on Aug 20, 2022 1:42:20 GMT
I feel like I'm asking for the password to a secret nightclub , but can someone please PM the YT's info. TY
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Post by chances on Aug 20, 2022 6:35:28 GMT
I’m just curious why the OP or others has chosen not to post the you tuber’s name. It seems like anyone who asks will receive a PM even new members. Completely non judgmentally, I’m just wondering what the worry abt posting the name is.
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Post by Embri on Aug 20, 2022 10:14:23 GMT
Given that we know the YouTuber in question is already anxious about the amount of attention they've been subjected to by this situation being blown all out of proportion, it doesn't seem unreasonable to keep the mentions private. Stops the thread from being picked up later by search engines. Doesn't seem like they personally contributed anything deliberately to the incident - the proverbial spark (or more fairly, two sticks that someone ran off with, rubbed together REALLY DARN HARD to get the spark to lay on the RTS kerosene spill while they huffed and puffed.)
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traychic
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Aug 20, 2022 10:21:10 GMT
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Post by traychic on Aug 20, 2022 10:25:41 GMT
Okay, long-time lurker here, too. I always appreciate this group’s collective insight.
Can someone please send the YTer name? I’ve followed RTS for a long time, but this event has me concerned. I saw the comment on the FB group where she was “demanding” to know if it was her that was being talked about, and I thought it was very strange.
I’d love to check out a new YTer (especially now that RTS content has been removed).
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Post by sarahsprettypapers on Aug 20, 2022 10:35:47 GMT
I’m just curious why the OP or others has chosen not to post the you tuber’s name. It seems like anyone who asks will receive a PM even new members. Completely non judgmentally, I’m just wondering what the worry abt posting the name is. A good question. I can think of two reasons for this at the moment: 1. I simply believe it is because the YT is overwhelmed. I don't think anyone wants to accidentally direct more negative traffic her way to keep the drama going. Whether good or bad, stress is stress on the body. Even if her YT channel becomes flooded with new, positive subscribers, it may still feel overwhelming to her at this time. 2. Yes, this is a public forum and anyone can sign up to try and get the info. However, at least in my experience when I made my account, it took a few days for it to be approved. So if someone was trying to find out information from this board (because it sounds like the FB group has closed up) for not-so-nice reasons, hopefully that delay in account approval will allow some people time to clear their heads and move on. I will admit that at first, I did not want to know who the YT was. What changed my mind was when quite a few women on this board reported back that they were already followers and loved her videos. If she already has quite a following from here, she must have some good layouts to share. And I'll be honest, I am glad I asked. I have only watched about five of her videos so far, but this scrappy content seems to be right up my alley. The YT seems honest in her voice overs and she explains why she is making her decisions concerning the layout. I enjoy hearing someone's thought process behind a page.
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Post by quinmm14 on Aug 20, 2022 10:45:32 GMT
And on the other hand, I'd like to make sure that I'm not subbed to any of the rabid RTS minions but since we're too damn nice and polite to do a public call out I'll be watching my subbed videos with a side eye and unsubbing if/when they mention their leader's name or any gushing occurs. Cause I'm petty like that ya know.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 20, 2022 10:46:38 GMT
Ok ok can someone tell me who the YT is? TIA ETA Thank you for the info ladies - it is a YouTuber I already follow.
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cozzie7
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Mar 13, 2019 12:09:35 GMT
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Post by cozzie7 on Aug 20, 2022 12:26:03 GMT
Sounds like I need to add this YTer to my subscriptions, would appreciate the name too. Many thanks.
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Post by amp on Aug 20, 2022 14:35:29 GMT
I'd love to know the YouTuber, too. I'm hoping she does some pocket pages...she sounds pretty good. If someone could pm me, I'd be grateful.
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artbabe
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Jun 26, 2014 1:59:10 GMT
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Post by artbabe on Aug 20, 2022 15:42:02 GMT
PS I'm just a lurker but artbabe, you changed your profile pic, it's super cute! (now i feel like a stalker haha) Artbabe! Lookin good Thank you! I'm using that as my dating profile photo, too. Let's see if it works. I wear reading glasses a lot, so half the time I look like this photo and half the time I look like my old photo. The para-social relationship discussion is really interesting. I watch TikTok a lot and there is a huge amount of it on there.
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cbscrapper
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Post by cbscrapper on Aug 20, 2022 15:47:58 GMT
If you have a budget for $$ for crafting supplies, then you either stick to it, get more inventive with how you use the supplies you do have / be more creative somehow with the supplies you DO buy, or you just don't buy as much stuff. Honestly, this is something that never sat well with me about her videos... The fact that FB group members / YT commenters, whoever- were sending her gift cards or actual product kind of annoyed me, personally. It's one thing if you're getting materials from a company, if you're an actual company DT member... but why did / do random people feel like she needed them to send her things or $$?? It's not her, I guess, so much as them that I'm annoyed by... the whole thing just rubbed me the wrong way. I've always been irrationally rubbed the wrong way by this too, especially as she will complain about how things are so expensive while showing off 6 brand new collection packs, one of which she bought two packs of. I think she's offered some practical advice on keeping within a budget, sharing how to get the most out of a collection by buying only one or two pieces and then building a knock off collection around those, but the constant complaining about how expensive everything is annoys me, especially as an international who can sometimes buy products from the US, including the paying international shipping, cheaper than I can buy them locally. I think it’s weird too when people send product (especially those who are on design teams and already getting a ton of product for that role). And, these YTers seem to protest - “Oh, don’t send me product, I have so much” or “ I’m frozen so I can use up product” blah blah blah. BUT, methinks she doth protest too much, because these YTers mailing addresses aren’t public knowledge, so they have to provide that info to receive the “gifts.”
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beatrix
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Aug 20, 2022 15:55:05 GMT
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Post by beatrix on Aug 20, 2022 16:05:30 GMT
Hi!!...another long time lurker here. Would love the name of the Yter, please. Also, would like to report that you can see content on RTS YouTube under the playlist tab. I subscribed to her 2 years ago because of this forum. TIA
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