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Post by aj2hall on Nov 22, 2022 18:29:47 GMT
Most of the Democratic politicians tried to make decisions based on information available at the time and science. 100% not true. The "science" proclaimed as truth THAT MUST BE FOLLOWED OR ELSE has been false. The scientific method that underlies what we have long considered hard science has been ignored and all those who presented factual evidence of what this virus was doing, whom it effected, and the simple therapeutic treatments that controlled the effects of the virus were shut down under tremendous penalty and duress. All for the benefit of a very few individuals whose accumulation of wealth and power has accelerated to heights never before seen on this earth. Good luck continuing to believe your delusions even as the truth becomes more visible each and every day. Again, decisions based on the information we had at the time. Do we know more now? Yes. Are there decisions that would have been made differently with new information. Yes. Monday morning quarterbacking. And did individuals like Jeff Bezos accumulate more wealth? Yes, absolutely. If you acknowledge that, you also need to recognize that Republican tax cuts from Reagan to Trump contributed to the accumulation of wealth. Trickle down economics that never actually trickled down.
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Post by anonaname on Nov 22, 2022 22:38:27 GMT
You wished death on us because we wouldn't take the shot. You mocked us as we asserted our right to medical choice. "My body, my choice" right? You accused us of taking horse paste and when it was proven that Ivermectin is a Noble Prize winning treatment, you ignored, mocked, and called us ignorant, unscientific and uninformed. Now it is documented an a treatment with anti-viral properties. You laughed when we lost our jobs saying "that's what you get for not complying!" You looked to the other way when the "summer of love" 2020 occurred. Who condemned them for not masking or distancing while our cities were being burnt down? You endorsed discrimination of those who decided, for their own health reasons to not get the vaccine. You agreed with those who suggested we shouldn't be allowed to get medical treatment, get groceries, etc. You attacked anyone who tried to share scientific data and those who pointed out the VAERS system was screaming a massive warning about vaccine injury - specific to the covid vaccines. And now you think an apology is going to cover it? You think an "oops, sorry, we didn't know" is going to smooth things over? FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU!!! Enjoy your blood clots. Enjoy your myocarditis. Enjoy your early heart attacks and Bells Palsy. Have a great time masking up alone, in your car - I don't give a fuck, do what you want - your body your choice!
If you are too scared of an illness with a death rate so low it's barely worth mentioning then stay your ass at home. Risk assessment is a thing - you do you and I'll do me.
I STILL have not had covid. I STILL am 100% unvaxxed. The only people I know of who have gotten covid ARE VACCINATED. Antibody Dependent Enhancement is a thing. You might want to look into it.
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Post by Zee on Nov 22, 2022 22:47:01 GMT
🤣🤣
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Post by Merge on Nov 22, 2022 23:17:13 GMT
That there is some first rate comedy. Bless her heart.
ETA: That “study” you posted is nothing more than a sham website. Yes, you’re ignorant and misinformed. Sorry not sorry.
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Post by sideways on Nov 22, 2022 23:23:39 GMT
You wished death on us because we wouldn't take the shot. You mocked us as we asserted our right to medical choice. "My body, my choice" right? You accused us of taking horse paste and when it was proven that Ivermectin is a Noble Prize winning treatment, you ignored, mocked, and called us ignorant, unscientific and uninformed. Now it is documented an a treatment with anti-viral properties. You laughed when we lost our jobs saying "that's what you get for not complying!" You looked to the other way when the "summer of love" 2020 occurred. Who condemned them for not masking or distancing while our cities were being burnt down? You endorsed discrimination of those who decided, for their own health reasons to not get the vaccine. You agreed with those who suggested we shouldn't be allowed to get medical treatment, get groceries, etc. You attacked anyone who tried to share scientific data and those who pointed out the VAERS system was screaming a massive warning about vaccine injury - specific to the covid vaccines. And now you think an apology is going to cover it? You think an "oops, sorry, we didn't know" is going to smooth things over? FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU!!! Enjoy your blood clots. Enjoy your myocarditis. Enjoy your early heart attacks and Bells Palsy. Have a great time masking up alone, in your car - I don't give a fuck, do what you want - your body your choice!
If you are too scared of an illness with a death rate so low it's barely worth mentioning then stay your ass at home. Risk assessment is a thing - you do you and I'll do me.
I STILL have not had covid. I STILL am 100% unvaxxed. The only people I know of who have gotten covid ARE VACCINATED. Antibody Dependent Enhancement is a thing. You might want to look into it.
Feel better now, cupcake? 😂 Bless your heart. Ivermectin won the Nobel prize for its treatment of parasites. That doesn’t mean it works for Covid. The fact that it won the Nobel prize means nothing when talking about using it for ailments other than what it won the prize for. Go watch another video on Rumble or Bitchute. 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 23:25:10 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 22, 2022 23:28:56 GMT
Holy crap what a tiraid....
If you are too scared of an illness with a death rate so low it's barely worth mentioning then stay your ass at home. Risk assessment is a thing - you do you and I'll do me.
Shame on you discounting the over a million people died in less then two years.
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Post by SockMonkey on Nov 22, 2022 23:31:15 GMT
I see shit got wild here and we're still getting our news from Facebook memes.
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Post by SockMonkey on Nov 22, 2022 23:37:28 GMT
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Post by anonaname on Nov 23, 2022 0:05:15 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 23, 2022 0:16:48 GMT
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Post by Skellinton on Nov 23, 2022 0:28:41 GMT
Are you implying that people didn't die from Covid or are you really that vile of a person that you laugh when people die?
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Post by morecowbell on Nov 23, 2022 0:41:38 GMT
It's not a "but they said" camp. Scrapper100 said "they never said it" I'm just showing that yes, they did. That is the nice thing with everything recorded and spread all over the internet it is pretty easy to verify what was and was not said, even when denied. That is something that everyone (general everyone) should keep in the forefront of their mind, especially when using words like “never”, “always”, “absolutely”, etc…or those known for just telling blatant lies. Yes. So true.
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Post by Merge on Nov 23, 2022 0:58:00 GMT
I don’t know why anyone would listen to the words of a person who laughs at over a million deaths. A good chunk of those were essential workers, medical personnel, and educators who died because people arrogantly believed they knew better than those who spend their lives trying to prevent disease. But fuck all of them, I guess. They don’t matter compared to the wounded pride of someone who still has yet to show a credible shred of evidence for any of the claims she makes.
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Post by Merge on Nov 23, 2022 0:58:39 GMT
Are you implying that people didn't die from Covid or are you really that vile of a person that you laugh when people die? It’s the second one.
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Post by samantha25 on Nov 23, 2022 1:18:43 GMT
Quit feeding the animals (sorry, no disrespect to anyone's beloved animals, what other description should I use?)
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 23, 2022 2:07:07 GMT
Sorry all. I was being selfish by only saying over a million deaths from Covid. That was here in the USA, not the multiple millions of deaths world wide!!!!
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 23, 2022 17:17:58 GMT
That is the nice thing with everything recorded and spread all over the internet it is pretty easy to verify what was and was not said, even when denied. That is something that everyone (general everyone) should keep in the forefront of their mind, especially when using words like “never”, “always”, “absolutely”, etc…or those known for just telling blatant lies. Yes. So true. That’s true the internet is the place to go for information. But when “correcting” someone’s comment they should also put it in its proper context. Tell the entire story. From the Hill…. Here is his comment from May 2021. And it’s embedded in this article.. link“Appearing on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Fauci explained to host John Dickerson that fully vaccinated people can go without masks even if they have an asymptomatic case of COVID-19 because the level of virus is much lower in their nasopharynx, the top part of their throat that lies behind the nose, than it is in someone who is unvaccinated. “So even though there are breakthrough infections with vaccinated people, almost always the people are asymptomatic and the level of virus is so low it makes it extremely unlikely — not impossible but very, very low likelihood — that they’re going to transmit it,” Fauci said. Fauci added that vaccinated people essentially become “dead ends” for the virus to spread within their communities. “When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community,” Fauci said. “In other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere. And that’s when you get a point that you have a markedly diminished rate of infection in the community.” Here is the rest of the story… From the linked article… ” By late 2021 and early 2022, as Omicron became dominant and it was clear vaccinated people were still catching and spreading the virus, the messaging changed.“Stopping the spread? What are you talking about? It’s about reducing hospitalisation and death. We have always been at war with hospitalisation and death.” That’s all well and good — but it’s an entirely different moral calculation.” Whoever wrote this article was complaining I guess because the message changed from early 2021 to the end of 2021. That maybe no one should said that if vaccinated you wouldn’t spread the virus. The thing is “they” believed based on data that was available at the time, that if vaccinated one could get the virus but the symptoms would not be as severe and they would not spread it. But and it’s a big but, no one in May had that elusive crystal ball that would allow them to see into the future and see that a variant would appear and that it was different enough from the original virus that even vaccinated people could spread the virus. In other words they didn’t know about the variant or that variants could spread even if the host body was vaccinated. And if you read the linked article you find what Dr Fauci said was being said by more then a few people including Pfizer. I believe, and I’m not going to look it up, the vaccines for the booster shots are being fine tuned to work against the known variants as well as the original virus. As to the sentence you used for your response to “they never said the vaccine will totally prevent COVID”. Where in this sentence do you see anything about vaccinated folks not being able to spread the virus. That you would want to drag up a quote by Dr. Fauci about vaccinated folks not spreading it? Was it just to “own the libs”? I read it and thought it’s true the vaccines don’t eliminate someone from getting the virus. Which is a true statement.
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Post by morecowbell on Nov 29, 2022 5:28:19 GMT
Yes, Fauci said that too. Scrapper100 said "they never said it" I showed that yes, several theys did. Fauci's extra bit doesn't change that fact.
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Post by morecowbell on Nov 29, 2022 5:29:56 GMT
They never said that the vaccines will totally prevent Covid Yes, they did. Fauci said "vaccinated people become dead ends for the virus" , Biden “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”, the CDC "Vaccinated people do not carry the virus — they don’t get sick, not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data.", lots of main stream media and politicians parroting them while shaming anyone who questioned it. Some of them even went so far as saying they deserved to get sick. Hell, even the CEO of Pfizer said it's “100 per cent effective against severe Covid-19.”
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Post by compeateropeator on Nov 29, 2022 12:46:37 GMT
Yes, they did. Fauci said "vaccinated people become dead ends for the virus" , Biden “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”, the CDC "Vaccinated people do not carry the virus — they don’t get sick, not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data.", lots of main stream media and politicians parroting them while shaming anyone who questioned it. Some of them even went so far as saying they deserved to get sick. Hell, even the CEO of Pfizer said it's “100 per cent effective against severe Covid-19.” I am not disputing with you that it was said. The virus did mutate and the vaccine was very effective against severe Covid (although as we know now would NOT be 100%). They had to update their comments and finding…something most people who are looking at what was going on logically could see. Words and meanings are funny things. Similar to all those that are promoting that it is an open border with Mexico. Anyone using logic knows that is not true. While the policies may not be what you want we all know the border is not “Open”. It seems a lot of people are not thinking rationally these days. 🤷🏻♀️ I am responding just because…I can’t even remember why this back and forth of who said what is going on, so any comment is a general comment not directed at anyone. 😄
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Post by morecowbell on Nov 30, 2022 1:36:50 GMT
I am not disputing with you that it was said. The virus did mutate and the vaccine was very effective against severe Covid (although as we know now would NOT be 100%). They had to update their comments and finding…something most people who are looking at what was going on logically could see. Words and meanings are funny things. Similar to all those that are promoting that it is an open border with Mexico. Anyone using logic knows that is not true. While the policies may not be what you want we all know the border is not “Open”. It seems a lot of people are not thinking rationally these days. 🤷🏻♀️ I am responding just because…I can’t even remember why this back and forth of who said what is going on, so any comment is a general comment not directed at anyone. 😄 It's going on simply because Scrapper100 said "they never said it", I showed that yes, several theys did in fact say it. That's all.
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Post by claudia123 on Nov 30, 2022 15:59:25 GMT
I wonder how people who were very against any kind of lockdown/mandate protests in the US, feel about what is happening in China at the moment? Wearing a mask and social distancing has not led to zero Covid, even in a country with such a strict regime as China. Instead, 1.4 billion people are now living in a biosecurity totalitarian state, people even being burned alive in their homes as lockdown protocols prohibited them leaving. Human rights matter, even in an emergency, or you end up on a slippery slope of state control. Where does lockdown critism become legitimate vs the ranting of 'spoilt right wing babies' in your eyes?
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Post by Merge on Nov 30, 2022 17:28:21 GMT
I wonder how people who were very against any kind of lockdown/mandate protests in the US, feel about what is happening in China at the moment? Wearing a mask and social distancing has not led to zero Covid, even in a country with such a strict regime as China. Instead, 1.4 billion people are now living in a biosecurity totalitarian state, people even being burned alive in their homes as lockdown protocols prohibited them leaving. Human rights matter, even in an emergency, or you end up on a slippery slope of state control. Where does lockdown critism become legitimate vs the ranting of 'spoilt right wing babies' in your eyes? Since none of our lockdown protocols (or suggestions) remotely approached what is happening in China, I'm not sure what parallel you're attempting to draw. These are apples and oranges. Never once during this pandemic have US citizens been confined to their homes by law.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 30, 2022 17:35:45 GMT
I have direct knowledge that fire departments did respond to all fires around here, as did the police. They were all issued masks for safety, full protective gear as needed, because they were concerned about their health. However they DID respond!!!
People did move around as needed, wanted...
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Post by claudia123 on Nov 30, 2022 18:22:22 GMT
I wonder how people who were very against any kind of lockdown/mandate protests in the US, feel about what is happening in China at the moment? Wearing a mask and social distancing has not led to zero Covid, even in a country with such a strict regime as China. Instead, 1.4 billion people are now living in a biosecurity totalitarian state, people even being burned alive in their homes as lockdown protocols prohibited them leaving. Human rights matter, even in an emergency, or you end up on a slippery slope of state control. Where does lockdown critism become legitimate vs the ranting of 'spoilt right wing babies' in your eyes? Since none of our lockdown protocols (or suggestions) remotely approached what is happening in China, I'm not sure what parallel you're attempting to draw. These are apples and oranges. Never once during this pandemic have US citizens been confined to their homes by law. I guess my point is at what stage does state biosurvelliance become unnaceeptable to those who called those who protested public health measures in the US ridiculous, selfish people? Is the line when people are confined to their houses by law, but everything up to that is okay? Literal forced vaccination being unnacceptable but vaccine mandates (that lead to job loss, withdrawal from college etc) okay? Obviously what people in China are going through is next level compared to what was experienced in the US, but stay at home orders etc did exist. In the Uk, it was illegal for months to interact with people outside your household, protesters in Canada had bank accounts frozen etc so by no means only the US that has to face these sorts of questions.
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Post by Just T on Nov 30, 2022 18:27:11 GMT
but stay at home orders etc did exist. But they weren't true ORDERS. There was no law enforcement out making sure everyone stayed at home. You could still move about, go to the grocery store, etc. I feel like it was more of stay home suggestion. As in stay home if you can and don't have any reason to be out.
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Post by claudia123 on Nov 30, 2022 18:36:40 GMT
but stay at home orders etc did exist. But they weren't true ORDERS. There was no law enforcement out making sure everyone stayed at home. You could still move about, go to the grocery store, etc. I feel like it was more of stay home suggestion. As in stay home if you can and don't have any reason to be out. If they had been true orders, enforced by law enforcement (like in some European countries were you had to have papers showing why you were leaving home), would that have been too far in your opinion? You must see were I'm coming from right? Clearly there is a line were people begin to find state interference in daily lives to prevent disease unnacceptable (as in China now), but where is it? When do individual liberties outway preventing disease spread?
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Post by Just T on Nov 30, 2022 18:37:43 GMT
But they weren't true ORDERS. There was no law enforcement out making sure everyone stayed at home. You could still move about, go to the grocery store, etc. I feel like it was more of stay home suggestion. As in stay home if you can and don't have any reason to be out. If they had been true orders, enforced by law enforcement (like in some European countries were you had to have papers showing why you were leaving home), would that have been too far in your opinion? Yes.
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Post by katlady on Nov 30, 2022 18:44:56 GMT
but stay at home orders etc did exist. But they weren't true ORDERS. There was no law enforcement out making sure everyone stayed at home. You could still move about, go to the grocery store, etc. I feel like it was more of stay home suggestion. As in stay home if you can and don't have any reason to be out. I know Italy was pretty strict, but no where in the US were people forced to stay home, at least that I am aware of. No one was checking up on you to see why you were walking outside. There was no Federal law that everyone in the US had to get a Covid test every 2-3 days, like they do in China. And if you test positive in the U.S., no one drags you off into forced quarantine. China is the extreme, and people are finally fed up. I don’t see the US ever getting to that point because Americans would revolt long before we got to the point where China is at now with regards to lockdowns.
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