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Post by Scrapper100 on Feb 26, 2023 22:56:51 GMT
I agree and most Democrats see it that way. However, some people who vote R see it like MTG. They believe Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity etc. They believe their way of life is threatened. They think the federal government is bad, Democrats are evil socialists trying to take away their guns, rights, religion, steal elections etc. I don't agree but people vote for Republicans for lots of reasons - they think Republicans are better for the economy, they think Republicans will reduce inflation, gas prices, crime etc. Or they believe in de-regulation, the 2nd amendment or are anti-abortion. Or they disagree with how Democrats handled Covid. And just as passionately as we believe in abortion rights, voting rights, democracy etc, conservatives are equally as passionate about their causes. I guess I’d like some of them to present some evidence for all these things they “believe.” It appears most of them are just taking Tucker’s words as articles of faith. And I’m disinclined to see that as the other side equivalent of opinions rooted in facts and evidence. Well considering how often he has admitted he lies for entertainment it amazes me anyone still believe him. It’s not taking someone else’s word for it is him on the record multiple times saying this. It’s well documented.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 26, 2023 23:37:07 GMT
I guess I’d like some of them to present some evidence for all these things they “believe.” It appears most of them are just taking Tucker’s words as articles of faith. And I’m disinclined to see that as the other side equivalent of opinions rooted in facts and evidence. Well considering how often he has admitted he lies for entertainment it amazes me anyone still believe him. It’s not taking someone else’s word for it is him on the record multiple times saying this. It’s well documented. We know this, but I don't think Fox viewers know or they don't care. Their distrust of any other media is so high, in part thanks to Trump's "fake news". Interesting opinion about how Fox & why lied to viewers about the election. Sorry for the long link, but its a free article, no paywall. www.nytimes.com/2023/02/26/opinion/fox-news-lies-dominion.html?unlocked_article_code=9C-m-PhbAq73Aee7fHoq97c4ndz_r5Tc7hF9uFFWJrEQwTWOB4jXwnbraaE1SoVDbDzMVCENUCsd13KWJggL1WRRygcAxGn7aOyUJG5E9E9Bcmfipm4LplT4nkGJN4gs9_Hbh7GahEUVzVUr14CvErFk6qwFKCFy_ME6EU1j7IoQMMYP3l6pJToZo_c2r3C-MZwqntvChlGiIw9VF35JXU1rhp3u2h-xkg2pnHpB0QptUke1sDeNJB-cR_QdB-wL4BUqSyQMy8_GgNshKNtSrbVSH248mgZ6RWqksEzwrIfo_TJlNgqfePtXbYyH86Wj2hP5FmMZTpgoiVwRBKz1nQ&smid=url-shareSo you can start to understand the shock when, on Election Day in 2020, Fox News accurately, if arguably prematurely, called Arizona for Joe Biden. It broke the social compact. By presuming the fairness of the election and by declaring Joe Biden the winner of a previously red state, Fox sent a message to its own audience — an audience that had been primed to mistrust election results by Trump and by reports on Fox News — that it did not hear them. It did not see them.
In the emails and texts highlighted in the Dominion filing, you see Fox News figures, including Sean Hannity and Suzanne Scott and Lachlan Murdoch, referring to the need to “respect” the audience. To be clear, by “respect” they didn’t mean “tell the truth” — an act of genuine respect. Instead they meant “represent.”
Representation can have its place. Fox’s deep connection with its conservative audience means that it can be ahead of the rest of the media on stories that affect red states and red culture.
But there is a difference between coming from a community and speaking for a community. In journalism, the former can be valuable, but the latter can be corrupt. It can result in audience capture (writing to please your audience, not challenge it) and in fear and timidity in reporting facts that contradict popular narratives. And in extreme instances — such as what we witnessed from Fox News after the 2020 presidential election — it can result in almost cartoonish villainy.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 27, 2023 0:05:26 GMT
She is affecting MY way of life. Attempting to take away MY free speech. My choice or not of religion. MY choice of health choices. How and what I want MY children are taught in school. The air I breathe. The water I drink. And the list goes on... I don't agree but people vote for Republicans for lots of reasons - they think Republicans are better for the economy, they think Republicans will reduce inflation, gas prices, crime etc. Or they believe in de-regulation, the 2nd amendment or are anti-abortion. Or they disagree with how Democrats handled Covid. And just as passionately as we believe in abortion rights, voting rights, democracy etc, conservatives are equally as passionate about their causes. To be blunt the “lots of reasons” you list in the first paragraph would make a strong case these folks have no clue how things work and lack common sense. In the second paragraph you are all but implying that those who vote for Republicans are against voting rights and democracy both which are imbedded in the foundation of this country. So what does that say about them as American Citizens? It is a mystery why individuals would continue to vote for the Republican Party, a party that has strong ties to white nationalists. A party who strongly believes only certain people should be allowed to vote. A party that spreads lies and misinformation with abandonment. A party that cares more about keeping AR-15s on our streets than the mangled bodies of school children that are massacred by AR-15s. What kind of person would support that? Because people who continue to vote for Republicans must support that stuff. And that’s the mystery.
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 27, 2023 0:57:34 GMT
I don't agree but people vote for Republicans for lots of reasons - they think Republicans are better for the economy, they think Republicans will reduce inflation, gas prices, crime etc. Or they believe in de-regulation, the 2nd amendment or are anti-abortion. Or they disagree with how Democrats handled Covid. And just as passionately as we believe in abortion rights, voting rights, democracy etc, conservatives are equally as passionate about their causes. To be blunt the “lots of reasons” you list in the first paragraph would make a strong case these folks have no clue how things work and lack common sense. In the second paragraph you are all but implying that those who vote for Republicans are against voting rights and democracy both which are imbedded in the foundation of this country. So what does that say about them as American Citizens? It is a mystery why individuals would continue to vote for the Republican Party, a party that has strong ties to white nationalists. A party who strongly believes only certain people should be allowed to vote. A party that spreads lies and misinformation with abandonment. A party that cares more about keeping AR-15s on our streets than the mangled bodies of school children that are massacred by AR-15s. What kind of person would support that? Because people who continue to vote for Republicans must support that stuff. And that’s the mystery. You make a strong point. My opinion is that they are being fed a daily dose of hysteria and outrage, and have become paranoid that their way of life is threatened by Dems. A big example for me was how many of them, despite all evidence to the contrary, insisted that 1) Jan 6 rioters were tourists 2) Hey, it’s the people’s House, so… 3)Ashley Babbitt was “murdered” for no reason. There are probably other ridiculous conspiracy theories out there. Dems want to take away your gas stoves! Dems want to take away your guns! Dem teachers are brainwashing your kids! Dems want to defund the police! Dems are censoring conservatives! Blah, blah, blah.
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Post by dizzycheermom on Feb 27, 2023 16:04:04 GMT
I don't agree but people vote for Republicans for lots of reasons - they think Republicans are better for the economy, they think Republicans will reduce inflation, gas prices, crime etc. Or they believe in de-regulation, the 2nd amendment or are anti-abortion. Or they disagree with how Democrats handled Covid. And just as passionately as we believe in abortion rights, voting rights, democracy etc, conservatives are equally as passionate about their causes. To be blunt the “lots of reasons” you list in the first paragraph would make a strong case these folks have no clue how things work and lack common sense. In the second paragraph you are all but implying that those who vote for Republicans are against voting rights and democracy both which are imbedded in the foundation of this country. So what does that say about them as American Citizens? It is a mystery why individuals would continue to vote for the Republican Party, a party that has strong ties to white nationalists. A party who strongly believes only certain people should be allowed to vote. A party that spreads lies and misinformation with abandonment. A party that cares more about keeping AR-15s on our streets than the mangled bodies of school children that are massacred by AR-15s. What kind of person would support that? Because people who continue to vote for Republicans must support that stuff. And that’s the mystery. You ask this question a lot, and also why people don't vote. Since these are important causes to you, what are you doing about them? Are you going into these red states, finding blue areas and registering people to vote? or going in to red states to educate republican voters on the misinformation? It is easy to sit here on an anonymous message board and complain but we need more action. There are many things we can all do to help the cause. But I'm not willing to just lump everyone together in a state as "good" or "bad."
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 27, 2023 21:47:48 GMT
I don't agree but people vote for Republicans for lots of reasons - they think Republicans are better for the economy, they think Republicans will reduce inflation, gas prices, crime etc. Or they believe in de-regulation, the 2nd amendment or are anti-abortion. Or they disagree with how Democrats handled Covid. And just as passionately as we believe in abortion rights, voting rights, democracy etc, conservatives are equally as passionate about their causes. To be blunt the “lots of reasons” you list in the first paragraph would make a strong case these folks have no clue how things work and lack common sense. In the second paragraph you are all but implying that those who vote for Republicans are against voting rights and democracy both which are imbedded in the foundation of this country. So what does that say about them as American Citizens? It is a mystery why individuals would continue to vote for the Republican Party, a party that has strong ties to white nationalists. A party who strongly believes only certain people should be allowed to vote. A party that spreads lies and misinformation with abandonment. A party that cares more about keeping AR-15s on our streets than the mangled bodies of school children that are massacred by AR-15s. What kind of person would support that? Because people who continue to vote for Republicans must support that stuff. And that’s the mystery. I'm not a Republican and don't vote Republican so I'm not trying to justify their reasons. But, people do have reasons and it's not a mystery why some people vote for Republicans nor is it a lack of common sense. Some of those reasons might be false, but some conservatives truly believe them. They don't trust mainstream media and conservative media has convinced them Democrats are evil, liberal socialists out to take away their guns, rights, freedoms etc. Republican voters believe they're protecting the 2nd amendment, their right to bear arms, democracy, ensuring the integrity of elections etc by voting R. Maybe you live in a sea of blue but a lot of us live in blue areas of red states or in swing states. Republican voters are our neighbors, friends and family. I strongly disagree with them but they're not stupid and don't lack common sense because of their choices. Dismissing them as stupid or lacking common sense is not helpful and will not change anything.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Feb 27, 2023 22:46:35 GMT
To be blunt the “lots of reasons” you list in the first paragraph would make a strong case these folks have no clue how things work and lack common sense. In the second paragraph you are all but implying that those who vote for Republicans are against voting rights and democracy both which are imbedded in the foundation of this country. So what does that say about them as American Citizens? It is a mystery why individuals would continue to vote for the Republican Party, a party that has strong ties to white nationalists. A party who strongly believes only certain people should be allowed to vote. A party that spreads lies and misinformation with abandonment. A party that cares more about keeping AR-15s on our streets than the mangled bodies of school children that are massacred by AR-15s. What kind of person would support that? Because people who continue to vote for Republicans must support that stuff. And that’s the mystery. I'm not a Republican and don't vote Republican so I'm not trying to justify their reasons. But, people do have reasons and it's not a mystery why some people vote for Republicans nor is it lack of common sense. Some of those reasons might be false, but some conservatives truly believe them. They don't trust mainstream media and conservative media has convinced them Democrats are evil, liberal socialists out to take away their guns, rights, freedoms etc. Republican voters believe they're protecting the 2nd amendment, their right to bear arms, democracy, ensuring the integrity of elections etc by voting R. Maybe you live in a sea of blue but a lot of us live in blue areas of red states or in swing states. Republican voters are our neighbors. I strongly disagree with them but they're not stupid and don't lack common sense because of their choices. Dismissing them as stupid or lacking common sense is not helpful and will not change anything. I hear those arguments and that Rs fix the economy and bring down taxes all the time. You can try and change their minds but seriously it’s so deeply ingrained and I know most are reasonable smart people otherwise. At least the ones I know most haven’t gone completely off the deep end with conspiracy theories. There are however a lot on line in my local groups snd they scare me as I know they are armed.
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Post by paulao on Feb 27, 2023 23:34:43 GMT
My sister and brother in law vote Republican. A huge reason is that what our parents and grandparents did. Pull the straight Republican lever. They also believe Democrats want to turn this country socialist, although they really don’t know what that means. They do believe Trump was good for the economy and that hanging around with Putin and the N. Korean leader was good foreign policy. Yet my BIL believes in the redistribution of wealth…
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 28, 2023 18:49:43 GMT
I was curious about how many citizens that are eligible to vote but aren’t registered to vote. The number I found in a couple of articles from different years shows roughly 50M Americans who are eligible to vote but chose not register. But was interesting was an article by the Pew Charitable Trust from 2017. They did a survey in 2016 and came up with some interesting results. It’s worth a read to see the questions asked and the responses. They compared unregistered to those who are registered but frequently don’t vote. link“ Why Are Millions of Citizens Not Registered to Vote?”“A survey of the civically unengaged finds they lack interest, but outreach opportunities exist” Overview In every state and the District of Columbia—except North Dakota—individuals who plan to vote in a federal election must first register to vote. However, a sizable share of eligible citizens do not register. Official statistics vary, but a conservative estimate, calculated using data from the U.S. Census Bureau’s most recent Voting and Registration Supplement, indicates that 21.4 percent were not registered to vote in 2014.1 Registration’s importance to the voting process and the large number of individuals who remain unregistered have spurred several major reforms intended to increase voter registration. Most notably, the federal government’s National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA) requires that states allow eligible citizens to register to vote when completing other transactions at state motor vehicle and social services agencies, a provision commonly known as Motor Voter.2 Since enactment of the law, some states have expanded on this requirement by automating the Motor Voter process. Colorado upgraded its Motor Voter process in 2017, and Oregon became the first state to implement automatic voter registration in 2016, with at least six more planning to implement similar policies in the future.3 Other states offer Same Day Registration, which allows individuals to register and vote on Election Day, often right at their polling places.4 Despite these efforts, little is known about eligible but unregistered U.S. citizens’ exposure to opportunities to register, reasons for choosing not to, or attitudes toward the electoral system and civic engagement, or how many of them are interested in registering in the future. To begin to fill this gap, The Pew Charitable Trusts commissioned a nationally representative survey conducted in March and April 2016 that included a large population of unregistered individuals. This chartbook presents findings from the survey about the attitudes and experiences of those who said they were not registered to vote in the months preceding the 2016 presidential election, including: Less than 20 percent of eligible citizens have been offered the chance to register at a motor vehicle or other government agency. The unregistered were more likely to say they do not vote because they dislike politics or believe voting will not make a difference, while people who are registered but vote infrequently say they do not vote more often because they are not informed enough about the candidates or issues. At least 13 percent of the unregistered, generally those who are younger and more civically engaged, say they could be motivated to register in the future.” & Conclusion The unregistered differ in many ways from those who vote frequently: They are less interested in politics, less engaged in civic activities, and more cynical about their ability to understand and influence government, but they are not appreciably different on these measures from individuals who are registered but rarely vote. However, the unregistered population is not entirely unengaged from civic life; some indicated that they would register, and that group also reported participating in community or political activities at rates similar to occasional and semifrequent voters. Further, more than 40 percent of the unregistered cared who would win the presidency in 2016, and some indicated that they could be motivated to register in the future, though many also feel that the voting process does not affect the way governing decisions are made. These findings suggest that opportunities exist to engage segments of the unregistered population, including through consistent outreach at motor vehicle agencies as required under the NVRA and public education campaigns designed to highlight the significance of individual voter participation to election outcomes and the connection between local policies and issues these citizens care about, such as those for which they volunteer in their communities. Less than 20 percent of this group has been asked to register by a state agency, and a substantial increase in that figure could help to improve registration rates and electoral participation among these disconnected citizens. Methodology The Voting Frequency Survey was conducted online in English and Spanish from March 25 to April 19, 2016, by the GfK Group on behalf of The Pew Charitable Trusts. The total sample size was 3,763 U.S. citizens 18 years or older. GfK sampled households from its KnowledgePanel, a probability-based, nationally representative web panel. The margin of error, calculated with the design effect, at the 95 percent level of confidence for the total sample is plus or minus 1.9 percentage points. A full methodology, including margins of error for key subgroups, is given in Appendix A: Voting Frequency Survey Methodology, available on the chartbook webpage. The survey questions and frequencies are available in Appendix B: Voting Frequency Survey Topline.”
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 28, 2023 22:58:07 GMT
So this popped up on twitter. It seems MTG got yelled at while at a restaurant and she didn’t like it.
This part I thought what a first class hypocrite “They had no respect for the restaurant or the staff or the other people dining or people like me who simply have different political views.”
As a reminder she heckled President Biden during State of the Union Speech.
David Hogg tweeted replied to her that she went after him when I guess he was in DC not long after the Parkland shooting.
And then this popped up on twitter. I guess this called bringing the receipts. It’s MTG chasing after David Hogg demanding to know why he wants laws that attack the 2nd Amendment.
For the record I think it’s incredibly rude to yell at someone when they in a public place eating dinner, giving a speech or walking down a street.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 28, 2023 23:44:42 GMT
No shootings at schools with armed men... Liar... Think Uvalde!!
That was not the only time she went after David Hogg...
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 1, 2023 0:29:41 GMT
Just an observation here. Now that MTG has a more prominent roll in the House GOP she is proving over and over again that either she isn’t the brightest person in the room or she thinks those who vote for her aren’t.
From the Detroit News from 2020
”Kiessling said her two sons, Caleb, 20, and Kyler, 18, died July 29, 2020, from fentanyl poisoning, along with 17-year-old Sophia Harris, when they took what they thought were Percocet pills that turned out to contain the drug fentanyl,”
Note the bit in MTG’s tweet about the Biden Administration policies at the border being responsible for these boys death. That happened in 2020.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 1, 2023 1:23:52 GMT
Just an observation here. Now that MTG has a more prominent roll in the House GOP she is proving over and over again that either she isn’t the brightest person in the room or she thinks those who vote for her aren’t. From the Detroit News from 2020 ”Kiessling said her two sons, Caleb, 20, and Kyler, 18, died July 29, 2020, from fentanyl poisoning, along with 17-year-old Sophia Harris, when they took what they thought were Percocet pills that turned out to contain the drug fentanyl,” Note the bit in MTG’s tweet about the Biden Administration policies at the border being responsible for these boys death. That happened in 2020. She is that stupid but so are the people who believe what she says.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 1, 2023 3:00:37 GMT
So now she is whining that they need and deserve a safe place from woke and Democratic policies.
The problem with those like this one is they don’t believe everyone is created equal. As such they pretty much don’t believe members of the gay community. Transgender folks, people of color should have the same rights as they do. And because there is a political party that believes the opposite and, for the most part, push for equal rights for these folks MTG and her gang feel they are being attacked. So they want their own space so they can be racist assholes in peace.
It would appear the clip in the tweet is her justification for the “divorce” she advocating for. Not break apart the United States into separate countries, but decentralizing the country enough to have a safe place where they can be racist assholes.
Well I say if she truly wants a divorce then give it to her by breaking up the United States into separate countries of blue states and red states.
I have to say the more exposure this one gets the less I like the Republican Party and I was not overly fond of them before this one started flapping her gums non stop.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 1, 2023 3:20:50 GMT
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Post by katlady on Mar 1, 2023 6:12:06 GMT
that they need and deserve a safe place Weren't they complaining about how "snowflakes" needed a safe space?? So, now they need one??
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Post by Scrapper100 on Mar 1, 2023 8:34:58 GMT
that they need and deserve a safe place Weren't they complaining about how "snowflakes" needed a safe space?? So, now they need one?? Pretty ironic once again.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 1, 2023 18:49:41 GMT
Here you have a staffer for a congresswoman saying “do you think they give a fuck about your bullshit fact checking?” when asked about the misinformation his boss made at a hearing in the House.
That one sentence speaks volumes about what people like MTG think when it comes to facts.
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Post by dizzycheermom on Mar 1, 2023 19:16:58 GMT
I was curious about how many citizens that are eligible to vote but aren’t registered to vote. The number I found in a couple of articles from different years shows roughly 50M Americans who are eligible to vote but chose not register. But was interesting was an article by the Pew Charitable Trust from 2017. They did a survey in 2016 and came up with some interesting results. It’s worth a read to see the questions asked and the responses. They compared unregistered to those who are registered but frequently don’t vote. link“ Why Are Millions of Citizens Not Registered to Vote?”“A survey of the civically unengaged finds they lack interest, but outreach opportunities exist” Overview In every state and the District of Columbia—except North Dakota—individuals who plan to vote in a federal election must first register to vote. However, a sizable share of eligible citizens do not register. Official statistics vary, but a conservative estimate, calculated using data from the U.S. Census Bureau’s most recent Voting and Registration Supplement, indicates that 21.4 percent were not registered to vote in 2014.1 Registration’s importance to the voting process and the large number of individuals who remain unregistered have spurred several major reforms intended to increase voter registration. Most notably, the federal government’s National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA) requires that states allow eligible citizens to register to vote when completing other transactions at state motor vehicle and social services agencies, a provision commonly known as Motor Voter.2 Since enactment of the law, some states have expanded on this requirement by automating the Motor Voter process. Colorado upgraded its Motor Voter process in 2017, and Oregon became the first state to implement automatic voter registration in 2016, with at least six more planning to implement similar policies in the future.3 Other states offer Same Day Registration, which allows individuals to register and vote on Election Day, often right at their polling places.4 Despite these efforts, little is known about eligible but unregistered U.S. citizens’ exposure to opportunities to register, reasons for choosing not to, or attitudes toward the electoral system and civic engagement, or how many of them are interested in registering in the future. To begin to fill this gap, The Pew Charitable Trusts commissioned a nationally representative survey conducted in March and April 2016 that included a large population of unregistered individuals. This chartbook presents findings from the survey about the attitudes and experiences of those who said they were not registered to vote in the months preceding the 2016 presidential election, including: Less than 20 percent of eligible citizens have been offered the chance to register at a motor vehicle or other government agency. The unregistered were more likely to say they do not vote because they dislike politics or believe voting will not make a difference, while people who are registered but vote infrequently say they do not vote more often because they are not informed enough about the candidates or issues. At least 13 percent of the unregistered, generally those who are younger and more civically engaged, say they could be motivated to register in the future.” & Conclusion The unregistered differ in many ways from those who vote frequently: They are less interested in politics, less engaged in civic activities, and more cynical about their ability to understand and influence government, but they are not appreciably different on these measures from individuals who are registered but rarely vote. However, the unregistered population is not entirely unengaged from civic life; some indicated that they would register, and that group also reported participating in community or political activities at rates similar to occasional and semifrequent voters. Further, more than 40 percent of the unregistered cared who would win the presidency in 2016, and some indicated that they could be motivated to register in the future, though many also feel that the voting process does not affect the way governing decisions are made. These findings suggest that opportunities exist to engage segments of the unregistered population, including through consistent outreach at motor vehicle agencies as required under the NVRA and public education campaigns designed to highlight the significance of individual voter participation to election outcomes and the connection between local policies and issues these citizens care about, such as those for which they volunteer in their communities. Less than 20 percent of this group has been asked to register by a state agency, and a substantial increase in that figure could help to improve registration rates and electoral participation among these disconnected citizens. Methodology The Voting Frequency Survey was conducted online in English and Spanish from March 25 to April 19, 2016, by the GfK Group on behalf of The Pew Charitable Trusts. The total sample size was 3,763 U.S. citizens 18 years or older. GfK sampled households from its KnowledgePanel, a probability-based, nationally representative web panel. The margin of error, calculated with the design effect, at the 95 percent level of confidence for the total sample is plus or minus 1.9 percentage points. A full methodology, including margins of error for key subgroups, is given in Appendix A: Voting Frequency Survey Methodology, available on the chartbook webpage. The survey questions and frequencies are available in Appendix B: Voting Frequency Survey Topline.” So again I ask - what are YOU doing to help since this is an important issue for you? onelasttime
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Post by lucyg on Mar 1, 2023 19:28:56 GMT
I was curious about how many citizens that are eligible to vote but aren’t registered to vote. The number I found in a couple of articles from different years shows roughly 50M Americans who are eligible to vote but chose not register. But was interesting was an article by the Pew Charitable Trust from 2017. They did a survey in 2016 and came up with some interesting results. It’s worth a read to see the questions asked and the responses. They compared unregistered to those who are registered but frequently don’t vote. linkSo again I ask - what are YOU doing to help since this is an important issue for you? onelasttime She’s certainly helping to spread the word about some of these situations that I might never have heard about otherwise. I’m a little confused as to why you think it’s your job to police her choice of activities.
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Post by dizzycheermom on Mar 1, 2023 19:33:11 GMT
So again I ask - what are YOU doing to help since this is an important issue for you? onelasttime She’s certainly helping to spread the word about some of these situations that I might never have heard about otherwise. I’m a little confused as to why you think it’s your job to police her choice of activities. Definitely not trying to police her activities. But she complains A LOT about people who don’t vote. So I’m wondering what she is doing to help?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 1, 2023 19:54:04 GMT
I try to get my neighbors to register, although I cannot go up to the third floor to talk to them.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 1, 2023 20:25:43 GMT
I was curious about how many citizens that are eligible to vote but aren’t registered to vote. The number I found in a couple of articles from different years shows roughly 50M Americans who are eligible to vote but chose not register. But was interesting was an article by the Pew Charitable Trust from 2017. They did a survey in 2016 and came up with some interesting results. It’s worth a read to see the questions asked and the responses. They compared unregistered to those who are registered but frequently don’t vote. link“ Why Are Millions of Citizens Not Registered to Vote?”“A survey of the civically unengaged finds they lack interest, but outreach opportunities exist” Overview In every state and the District of Columbia—except North Dakota—individuals who plan to vote in a federal election must first register to vote. However, a sizable share of eligible citizens do not register. Official statistics vary, but a conservative estimate, calculated using data from the U.S. Census Bureau’s most recent Voting and Registration Supplement, indicates that 21.4 percent were not registered to vote in 2014.1 Registration’s importance to the voting process and the large number of individuals who remain unregistered have spurred several major reforms intended to increase voter registration. Most notably, the federal government’s National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA) requires that states allow eligible citizens to register to vote when completing other transactions at state motor vehicle and social services agencies, a provision commonly known as Motor Voter.2 Since enactment of the law, some states have expanded on this requirement by automating the Motor Voter process. Colorado upgraded its Motor Voter process in 2017, and Oregon became the first state to implement automatic voter registration in 2016, with at least six more planning to implement similar policies in the future.3 Other states offer Same Day Registration, which allows individuals to register and vote on Election Day, often right at their polling places.4 Despite these efforts, little is known about eligible but unregistered U.S. citizens’ exposure to opportunities to register, reasons for choosing not to, or attitudes toward the electoral system and civic engagement, or how many of them are interested in registering in the future. To begin to fill this gap, The Pew Charitable Trusts commissioned a nationally representative survey conducted in March and April 2016 that included a large population of unregistered individuals. This chartbook presents findings from the survey about the attitudes and experiences of those who said they were not registered to vote in the months preceding the 2016 presidential election, including: Less than 20 percent of eligible citizens have been offered the chance to register at a motor vehicle or other government agency. The unregistered were more likely to say they do not vote because they dislike politics or believe voting will not make a difference, while people who are registered but vote infrequently say they do not vote more often because they are not informed enough about the candidates or issues. At least 13 percent of the unregistered, generally those who are younger and more civically engaged, say they could be motivated to register in the future.” & Conclusion The unregistered differ in many ways from those who vote frequently: They are less interested in politics, less engaged in civic activities, and more cynical about their ability to understand and influence government, but they are not appreciably different on these measures from individuals who are registered but rarely vote. However, the unregistered population is not entirely unengaged from civic life; some indicated that they would register, and that group also reported participating in community or political activities at rates similar to occasional and semifrequent voters. Further, more than 40 percent of the unregistered cared who would win the presidency in 2016, and some indicated that they could be motivated to register in the future, though many also feel that the voting process does not affect the way governing decisions are made. These findings suggest that opportunities exist to engage segments of the unregistered population, including through consistent outreach at motor vehicle agencies as required under the NVRA and public education campaigns designed to highlight the significance of individual voter participation to election outcomes and the connection between local policies and issues these citizens care about, such as those for which they volunteer in their communities. Less than 20 percent of this group has been asked to register by a state agency, and a substantial increase in that figure could help to improve registration rates and electoral participation among these disconnected citizens. Methodology The Voting Frequency Survey was conducted online in English and Spanish from March 25 to April 19, 2016, by the GfK Group on behalf of The Pew Charitable Trusts. The total sample size was 3,763 U.S. citizens 18 years or older. GfK sampled households from its KnowledgePanel, a probability-based, nationally representative web panel. The margin of error, calculated with the design effect, at the 95 percent level of confidence for the total sample is plus or minus 1.9 percentage points. A full methodology, including margins of error for key subgroups, is given in Appendix A: Voting Frequency Survey Methodology, available on the chartbook webpage. The survey questions and frequencies are available in Appendix B: Voting Frequency Survey Topline.” So again I ask - what are YOU doing to help since this is an important issue for you? onelasttime There are people better equipped to be on the ground that are helping/getting people registered to vote than me for a number of reasons, none of which are any of your business. And I do appreciate the work these individuals do.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 2, 2023 18:47:21 GMT
I have pondering what has been said by a couple of you this thread that those who are not necessarily “Ultra MAGAs” but continue to vote for Republicans in any case.
That they are being brainwashed to believe something that isn’t true or exist.
But are they? In the early years of trumpism a reporter interviewed a trump supporter. And she said they knew what trump was all about but they chose to ignore it. She used the term “deliberate ignorance”.
So the question is, are these guys really being hoodwinked by the Republicans and conservative media or they chose to believe it because that is what they want to believe. In other words are they being deliberately ignorant.
And please don’t say those on the right are voting for democracy because if they truly were voting for democracy they wouldn’t be supporting elected officials that are doing this…
“Republican legislatures pushing new voter suppression laws”
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 3, 2023 15:35:55 GMT
Once again she is lying. She is quoting from a doctored video of comments made by Zelenskyy. What he actually said was that if Putin isn’t stopped in Ukraine he will go on to invade other countries including NATO countries which will mean the United States will have to send troops to fight per the NATO agreement. He’s right.
But of course that doesn’t fit in with the Putin loving Republicans, so they lie and people clap and cheer these people for telling lies.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 3, 2023 15:45:56 GMT
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