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Post by mikklynn on Nov 16, 2023 13:48:38 GMT
Oh, boy. The infection is awful! It sounds like you may have lucked out that they didn't fill the position. I would not accept a job where a supervisor felt unprofessional during the interview.
I hope things get better soon!
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 8, 2023 19:58:04 GMT
I am getting a real chance to prove myself to my boss's boss (same old boss, the new change hasn't changed and I've got wind it might not anyway) as she invited me to a brainstorming session on Tuesday. My coworker did not show up, nor did she even tell her she wasn't attending. But I got a chance to sit down and talk with her and my boss about some internal financial matters. Not management matters, all finance. But at least my contribution seemed valued by her. There have been a few other instances where I feel like my contribution has been valued by her too. So there's that.
But my boss is just continuing on with the same old, same old. I'm trying to shake off his latest this afternoon. My coworker still not coworking. She got up some momentum a few weeks ago. I thought she was coming back and moving forward. Turns out she did two tasks in less than a week and that was it. Meanwhile, she took a little vacation and I had to pick up one of those tasks and run with it. Found out there were errors on what she had been reporting. So there's that too.
It's funny because my general mood about this has been a little sad lately. Sad that I'm clearly going to have to be the one to leave a place I have enjoyed working for all these years. I've been watching the job postings but I haven't seen anything lately that is on the same level/pay as I am currently working at. So I am resigned to just keep hanging in there until I can find something better. I know I'm an eternal optimist, but part of me hopes that there is a change before I have somewhere else to go and I don't have to leave.
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Post by littlemama on Dec 8, 2023 20:42:29 GMT
I am getting a real chance to prove myself to my boss's boss (same old boss, the new change hasn't changed and I've got wind it might not anyway) as she invited me to a brainstorming session on Tuesday. My coworker did not show up, nor did she even tell her she wasn't attending. But I got a chance to sit down and talk with her and my boss about some internal financial matters. Not management matters, all finance. But at least my contribution seemed valued by her. There have been a few other instances where I feel like my contribution has been valued by her too. So there's that. But my boss is just continuing on with the same old, same old. I'm trying to shake off his latest this afternoon. My coworker still not coworking. She got up some momentum a few weeks ago. I thought she was coming back and moving forward. Turns out she did two tasks in less than a week and that was it. Meanwhile, she took a little vacation and I had to pick up one of those tasks and run with it. Found out there were errors on what she had been reporting. So there's that too. It's funny because my general mood about this has been a little sad lately. Sad that I'm clearly going to have to be the one to leave a place I have enjoyed working for all these years. I've been watching the job postings but I haven't seen anything lately that is on the same level/pay as I am currently working at. So I am resigned to just keep hanging in there until I can find something better. I know I'm an eternal optimist, but part of me hopes that there is a change before I have somewhere else to go and I don't have to leave. I think if you like it where you are and feel valued, you need to master the art of not giving a fuck about the rest of it. Do your job, no one else's. The company I left after 17 years taught me that the hard way. I do my job now and do it very well, but I dont own the company and my "investment" in the company's well-being is strictly so that I have a job that pays pretty well. If they succeed, great. If not, I can go elsewhere. I like my job, I like the people, but I am not going to fully invest my soul like I did with the last place. It got me nowhere in the end.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Dec 8, 2023 22:10:48 GMT
It's funny because my general mood about this has been a little sad lately. Sad that I'm clearly going to have to be the one to leave a place I have enjoyed working for all these years. I've been watching the job postings but I haven't seen anything lately that is on the same level/pay as I am currently working at. So I am resigned to just keep hanging in there until I can find something better. I know I'm an eternal optimist, but part of me hopes that there is a change before I have somewhere else to go and I don't have to leave. You're in a holding pattern. Even though it's not of your own making and you feel somewhat stymied by it, see if there's something in it that will serve you. In other words, use that optimism to find the silver lining in it. What can you learn from it? How can you use that time to home a new work skill? At the very least, polish that resume until it shines. This is just a pause. You'll get there.
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Post by scrapmaven on Dec 9, 2023 2:54:50 GMT
Sounds like your boss's boss values you and your contributions. This might be the answer that you've needed. If she really likes you and thinks you're an asset then that gives you a major leg up, especially if the department is going to change. I doubt she's gonna put up w/your flakey co-worker and apathetic boss. I'm hopeful.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 2, 2024 16:27:24 GMT
I wanted to update because I know the peas are care about me and really I always enjoy when someone posts that they update what's going on. Of course, I'm a bit nosey. But things have continued to spiral downward. They still have not transitioned the assistant director into being my boss. He is off right now on FMLA as his daughter has a grave medical issue. So he's no longer a real player in this game and I'm still reporting to the old boss, the director. His boss contacted me about 6 weeks ago and asked me if anything had changed with my situation and I reported to her that it hadn't. She seemed disappointed to hear that and said she would continue to see what she could do and that she would follow up with me in a bit. That's how we left it. I finally reached my breaking point on Monday. Last week was terrible. I was doing my coworker's work left and right as she was no where to be found. On Monday morning she scheduled a meeting with our boss for Monday afternoon. I was planning to go to the meeting and state in front of him that I wanted a general idea of what hours she was working and that I'd like to be notified when she is out of the office and plans to return. This is what I planned to say because she was no where to be found on Friday, no away message on her email, nothing, and I had to put out four fires for her. When I got to the meeting, (our boss did not show up), she was upset, said she had some medical things going on with her husband and that she intended to apply for Intermittent FMLA. I was as gentle as I possibly could be but I asked her if she could put an away message on her email stating she's out and when she plans to return and she told me no. So, I left the meeting and sat on it for a few days. I finally reached out to Human Resources and had a meeting with them yesterday. I explained the entire situation going on and my attempts to resolve the situation. He listened and was very sympathetic and suggested that if I filed a written complaint, it would open up an investigation and they should be able to resolve things. I had told him that I very much liked my work and I have been looking for another job but I really don't want to have to leave. He sent me the written complaint form. I did two things. 1) I scheduled a meeting for Monday with my boss's boss. I figured she has seemed like an ally to me so I was going to be transparent with her about my intention to file a complaint. Because I have to list everything, I am going to have to disclose I've talked to her about this and she has been the only person in my chain of command who has been sympathetic so I didn't want her to think I was throwing her under the bus. 2) I got another email from one of my coworker's people yesterday so I took it and forwarded it to my boss with yet another complaint. I laid out for him what I had intended to say and ask for in terms of her working hours because I never know if or when I'm supposed to handle things on her behalf. I told him that multitudes of people are now putting me on every communication they have with her because she is not serving them. They are now defaulting to letting me in on everything I should not have to handle because she's so unreliable. I did this as a last-ditch attempt to get him to address some of these issues before I go ahead and file the complaint. He said he would call me at 8:30 this morning. He called me at 8:30 this morning. I told him that I'm pretty reliably in the office between 7-3:30 each day. Sometimes a little earlier and sometimes a little later, but I'm fairly reliable. I told him that I always tell them when I'm not going to be in during those hours so if anyone needs to step in for me they can. I told him that I never know when she's working or when she's off. He stated, well, she's had a lot going on lately. I responded that these issues have been going on since she came back from her stroke and I'm not convinced at all she's put in a 40 hour week during that entire time. I told him I had no idea what my role and responsibilities are in regard to helping her do her job. I told him she gets irritated with me when I step in to help as though I'm stepping on her toes. I gave him a list of people who add me to all their email requests when I should not be involved at all because they aren't getting responses from her. And finally I told him that if she applied for FMLA and was off consistently for like 2 months, I would know full well that it was my job to pick up all the slack while she was off, but that if she takes intermittent all it's going to do is make this job worse. I used the words the HR guy gave me, I told him that I feel like he hasn't made my expectations and her expectations clear and that he isn't fairly applying the same work standards across the board for both of us. He agreed that at the very least, she should be sending a text message if she's not going to be in the office. He said he was going to reach out to HR today and see what he has the right to do in regard to making her comply with a consistent work schedule and requiring notification when she was in. For the first time in the year that I've been complaining, he said, "this isn't fair to you." I nearly fell off my chair. He said he'd get back with me by end of day today. So we'll see. I'm hoping to hear back from him with some kind of plan. And then I will meet with his boss on Monday. I have a job interview on Tuesday! (hallelujah) If I get this job, I'm taking it and will not file the HR complaint. But if not, I'm seriously considering proceeding ahead with the written complaint that will launch an investigation. I did not want to do this, I do fear retaliation. Even though HR told me the complaint will remain confidential, I know everyone is going to know who filed it because no one has inside information like I do. So there is going to be fallout. I'm just trying to make sure I have turned over every stone possible before dropping this bomb. And like I said, I will wait until I hear about this job. Because if I get it, the point is moot. So that's my update. Shitshow. I know I should have done this sooner but I really had to feel like I was at the end of my rope.
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Post by naby64 on Feb 2, 2024 16:39:01 GMT
I hate to read and run. I also hate to "like" the update.
I am so sorry that you have been dealing with this for so long. Here is to hoping that next week things move for you in the direction they need to. Finally. Whichever the case may be.
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Post by ntsf on Feb 2, 2024 16:45:00 GMT
just want to say I admire how you have handled this.. you documented, you communicated, you made extremely valid complaints..
just saying. GOOD GOING
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 2, 2024 16:58:03 GMT
jeremysgirl sorry they have not resolved any of the issues!! Even some progress would be a plus.. Do what you need to do!
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 2, 2024 17:19:40 GMT
just want to say I admire how you have handled this.. you documented, you communicated, you made extremely valid complaints.. just saying. GOOD GOING This makes me feel good to hear you say this. I have never been in a situation like this before and there seems to be no manual for how to handle things like this. I've just had to make the best decisions I can as I go. And it has felt icky from the very start. I was telling a friend about this and she was like, work is work, it's not personal. You can't feel bad for thinking what you do is going to hurt her. She's hurting you and everyone else. She's just not capable of doing the work.
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Post by busy on Feb 2, 2024 17:19:52 GMT
HR is there to protect the company. You're now officially a problem for the company.
I don't say that to suggest you shouldn't have gone to them, but now that this has been reported outside of your department, it's going to be easier to get you to leave than to fix all the problems you've been taking care of and are at the end of your rope with. Be careful about how you phrase things, because everything is going to be documented and if you say something in the spirit of transparency, they are likely to use it against you in the future.
Do what you must at work and nothing more. Focus on finding a new job elsewhere. Good luck. They don't deserve you.
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Post by gillyp on Feb 2, 2024 17:47:30 GMT
I was wondering how things were going just the other day. I am mad on your behalf that there is STILL no resolution or even a plan towards a resolution. I really hope Tuesday is the turning point for you. Try and relax over the weekend then it will just be a few more hours before you need to take the next step, on whichever path. Sending my very best wishes for Tuesday.
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Post by seaexplore on Feb 2, 2024 17:58:09 GMT
I was just thinking about you yesterday and your work mess.
If you get the other job you should still 100% file the HR complaint. I’m a vindictive bitch like that tho.
I don’t know how you haven’t shanked someone already!
Good luck in your interview!
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 2, 2024 18:06:05 GMT
HR is there to protect the company. You're now officially a problem for the company. I don't say that to suggest you shouldn't have gone to them, but now that this has been reported outside of your department, it's going to be easier to get you to leave than to fix all the problems you've been taking care of and are at the end of your rope with. I can't imagine how I would possibly be the problem here. If anyone questions anything I've done, I've got the receipts to back me up. My boss's boss already knew he was a problem, I just filled in some details for her. He's a mess on numerous levels and if you ask me my opinion, he's going to be the target. He's her target for sure. With that said, I haven't filed anything yet. And I'm going to wait and see what happens with this interview before I do. It's my hope, that I can just make my exit and leave them behind. If I don't get this job and they do drive me out? Well, then I'll have to rely on karma. Because if I'm gone then everyone is going to get to see who was doing all the work in our unit. I like to put my faith in the good. I like to believe that most people want their organization to work efficiently and with integrity. I'm not willing to believe that if I do file a complaint, they won't be taking some action about what is going on in my corner of the world. Slinking quietly away fixes nothing and like I said, if they push me out, at least maybe something might be taken seriously enough that the next poor sap who takes my job won't be treated the way I have been. And you're exactly right, they *don't* deserve me. But I have two choices, I can run away or I can stay and fight. And I'm exploring both options.
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Post by lurker on Feb 2, 2024 18:17:02 GMT
I'm so sorry this has been an ongoing issue for months. I hope you find a great new job! I also hope your Company does Exit Interviews and you tell them exactly WHY you are leaving.
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Post by busy on Feb 2, 2024 18:17:15 GMT
HR is there to protect the company. You're now officially a problem for the company. I don't say that to suggest you shouldn't have gone to them, but now that this has been reported outside of your department, it's going to be easier to get you to leave than to fix all the problems you've been taking care of and are at the end of your rope with. I can't imagine how I would possibly be the problem here. If anyone questions anything I've done, I've got the receipts to back me up. My boss's boss already knew he was a problem, I just filled in some details for her. He's a mess on numerous levels and if you ask me my opinion, he's going to be the target. He's her target for sure. With that said, I haven't filed anything yet. And I'm going to wait and see what happens with this interview before I do. It's my hope, that I can just make my exit and leave them behind. If I don't get this job and they do drive me out? Well, then I'll have to rely on karma. Because if I'm gone then everyone is going to get to see who was doing all the work in our unit. I like to put my faith in the good. I like to believe that most people want their organization to work efficiently and with integrity. I'm not willing to believe that if I do file a complaint, they won't be taking some action about what is going on in my corner of the world. Slinking quietly away fixes nothing and like I said, if they push me out, at least maybe something might be taken seriously enough that the next poor sap who takes my job won't be treated the way I have been. And you're exactly right, they *don't* deserve me. But I have two choices, I can run away or I can stay and fight. And I'm exploring both options. To be clear, you are not a problem for the company because you've done anything wrong. You've been beyond patient. But you're a problem because you're very fairly complaining about a terrible situation after going so far above and beyond for a very long time. If the company actually cared about fixing the situation, they would have done so already, but they've let it go on and on. Now that it's been escalated they have two choices, fix the situation they've let go for months, or make it unpleasant for you to stay. If you leave, they can continue not fixing the problem. I don't believe for a minute that much/any of this was actually news to HR or anyone who oversees your department.
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Post by cakediva on Feb 2, 2024 18:52:17 GMT
HR is there to protect the company. You're now officially a problem for the company. I don't say that to suggest you shouldn't have gone to them, but now that this has been reported outside of your department, it's going to be easier to get you to leave than to fix all the problems you've been taking care of and are at the end of your rope with. Be careful about how you phrase things, because everything is going to be documented and if you say something in the spirit of transparency, they are likely to use it against you in the future. Do what you must at work and nothing more. Focus on finding a new job elsewhere. Good luck. They don't deserve you. Ok how do you figure she's the problem? The lazy/not doing her job co-worker is the problem. If they make jeremysgirl leave, then they are really up shits creek without a paddle. Nothing will get fixed if she leaves - if she's at the end of her rope because of the other person, and she is the one doing all the amazing work - they should be getting rid of the problem and hiring somebody who will actually work!
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 2, 2024 19:16:15 GMT
I can't imagine how I would possibly be the problem here. If anyone questions anything I've done, I've got the receipts to back me up. My boss's boss already knew he was a problem, I just filled in some details for her. He's a mess on numerous levels and if you ask me my opinion, he's going to be the target. He's her target for sure. With that said, I haven't filed anything yet. And I'm going to wait and see what happens with this interview before I do. It's my hope, that I can just make my exit and leave them behind. If I don't get this job and they do drive me out? Well, then I'll have to rely on karma. Because if I'm gone then everyone is going to get to see who was doing all the work in our unit. I like to put my faith in the good. I like to believe that most people want their organization to work efficiently and with integrity. I'm not willing to believe that if I do file a complaint, they won't be taking some action about what is going on in my corner of the world. Slinking quietly away fixes nothing and like I said, if they push me out, at least maybe something might be taken seriously enough that the next poor sap who takes my job won't be treated the way I have been. And you're exactly right, they *don't* deserve me. But I have two choices, I can run away or I can stay and fight. And I'm exploring both options. To be clear, you are not a problem for the company because you've done anything wrong. You've been beyond patient. But you're a problem because you're very fairly complaining about a terrible situation after going so far above and beyond for a very long time. If the company actually cared about fixing the situation, they would have done so already, but they've let it go on and on. Now that it's been escalated they have two choices, fix the situation they've let go for months, or make it unpleasant for you to stay. If you leave, they can continue not fixing the problem. I don't believe for a minute that much/any of this was actually news to HR or anyone who oversees your department. Well I do know that his boss does know he's a problem. And her boss, the CEO is well aware of his limitations too. So, I'm thinking he's already skating on thin ice. I do not, however, think the HR man had any indication of any of this going on. I tried to keep the conversation very general which was incredibly difficult to do and some of the questions he asked me (discrimination, harassment) didn't apply and some of the questions he did ask me (unfair expectations, uneven application of rules) did apply. So I'm not thinking he had any inkling of what was going on. I also know that my boss's boss is familiar with the limitations of my coworker too from her direct interactions with her. But I'm not thinking HR knew any of it. I mean we have over 400 employees. If I wasn't so close in proximity to the top, I don't think it would even be as known an issue as it is. With that said, I get where you're coming from. And I get that letting me go is a possibility, but I don't believe it's an inevitability. I do still have some hope that there are good people in the world and I want to believe that most places want to isolate who's truly the problem. That isn't me.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Feb 2, 2024 19:40:32 GMT
If the company actually cared about fixing the situation, they would have done so already, but they've let it go on and on. Now that it's been escalated they have two choices, fix the situation they've let go for months, or make it unpleasant for you to stay. If you leave, they can continue not fixing the problem. I don't believe for a minute that much/any of this was actually news to HR or anyone who oversees your department. But I'm not thinking HR knew any of it. It's HR's job to make you think that. They cannot let anyone know what they know about situations such as this involving personnel. I understand that you are a good person and hope to see the company do the right thing, but I would keep my expectations very low. This is business and HR is god in most companies. I've seen VPs go up against HR in similar situations and come away the loser. Doesn't matter that you haven't filed the complaint yet, you've spoken up and put yourself on the HR radar. That said, I am sending all the good interview vibes to you. A fresh start with a new company may be the best thing to happen for you! Good luck!
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Post by Bridget in MD on Feb 2, 2024 21:16:50 GMT
I finally reached my breaking point on Monday. Last week was terrible. I was doing my coworker's work left and right as she was no where to be found. On Monday morning she scheduled a meeting with our boss for Monday afternoon. I was planning to go to the meeting and state in front of him that I wanted a general idea of what hours she was working and that I'd like to be notified when she is out of the office and plans to return. This is what I planned to say because she was no where to be found on Friday, no away message on her email, nothing, and I had to put out four fires for her. When I got to the meeting, (our boss did not show up), she was upset, said she had some medical things going on with her husband and that she intended to apply for Intermittent FMLA. I was as gentle as I possibly could be but I asked her if she could put an away message on her email stating she's out and when she plans to return and she told me no. So, I left the meeting and sat on it for a few days. Me: He called me at 8:30 this morning. I told him that I'm pretty reliably in the office between 7-3:30 each day. Sometimes a little earlier and sometimes a little later, but I'm fairly reliable. I told him that I always tell them when I'm not going to be in during those hours so if anyone needs to step in for me they can. I told him that I never know when she's working or when she's off. He stated, well, she's had a lot going on lately. I responded that these issues have been going on since she came back from her stroke and I'm not convinced at all she's put in a 40 hour week during that entire time. I told him I had no idea what my role and responsibilities are in regard to helping her do her job. I told him she gets irritated with me when I step in to help as though I'm stepping on her toes. I gave him a list of people who add me to all their email requests when I should not be involved at all because they aren't getting responses from her. And finally I told him that if she applied for FMLA and was off consistently for like 2 months, I would know full well that it was my job to pick up all the slack while she was off, but that if she takes intermittent all it's going to do is make this job worse. I used the words the HR guy gave me, I told him that I feel like he hasn't made my expectations and her expectations clear and that he isn't fairly applying the same work standards across the board for both of us. He agreed that at the very least, she should be sending a text message if she's not going to be in the office. He said he was going to reach out to HR today and see what he has the right to do in regard to making her comply with a consistent work schedule and requiring notification when she was in. For the first time in the year that I've been complaining, he said, "this isn't fair to you." I nearly fell off my chair. He said he'd get back with me by end of day today. So we'll see.Me: again I do not understand this - I am supposed to be available core hours. That's typically M-F 9am-3pm. Those hours vary depending on what the company states. How does no one know what a regular work schedule is? I was just thinking of you this week! I have a coworker who for the past 2 weeks has not been working, due to fatigue. While it's none of my business, she would log on in the morning and put in the slack channel that she was too tired, she would try to work later. We all work from home - but she never did log on later. After the SECOND WEEK, people started to ask when she was goin to work, they were waiting on her. Management would ask how she's doing, out of care, and if she'd been to a dr. I swear at my company you needed a drs note if you were going to take sick leave for more than 3 days. BUT a higher up said if she had leave, it was really none of our business. I'm not her manager, but a supervisor of some other employees and mentioned that I understand, but it is really starting to effect our workload and customers are waiting. That manager must have gone and spoke to HR, and they must have reached out to her. She was back at work the next day. Never said a word. So not quite sure what was going on. I find people are sympathetic BUT they don't want to be taken advantage of or help people skirt the system. So I feel for you! I am glad you updated.
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Post by busy on Feb 3, 2024 0:05:57 GMT
To be clear, you are not a problem for the company because you've done anything wrong. You've been beyond patient. But you're a problem because you're very fairly complaining about a terrible situation after going so far above and beyond for a very long time. If the company actually cared about fixing the situation, they would have done so already, but they've let it go on and on. Now that it's been escalated they have two choices, fix the situation they've let go for months, or make it unpleasant for you to stay. If you leave, they can continue not fixing the problem. I don't believe for a minute that much/any of this was actually news to HR or anyone who oversees your department. Well I do know that his boss does know he's a problem. And her boss, the CEO is well aware of his limitations too. So, I'm thinking he's already skating on thin ice. I do not, however, think the HR man had any indication of any of this going on. I tried to keep the conversation very general which was incredibly difficult to do and some of the questions he asked me (discrimination, harassment) didn't apply and some of the questions he did ask me (unfair expectations, uneven application of rules) did apply. So I'm not thinking he had any inkling of what was going on. I also know that my boss's boss is familiar with the limitations of my coworker too from her direct interactions with her. But I'm not thinking HR knew any of it. I mean we have over 400 employees. If I wasn't so close in proximity to the top, I don't think it would even be as known an issue as it is. With that said, I get where you're coming from. And I get that letting me go is a possibility, but I don't believe it's an inevitability. I do still have some hope that there are good people in the world and I want to believe that most places want to isolate who's truly the problem. That isn't me. They won’t fire you. That’s too risky and opens them up to issues. But they sure can make you not want to be there. I’m not saying anything about this situation is right or fair but to me it reads of upper management who know the issue, say the right things when it’s brought up but don’t follow through and actually do anything, because they don’t actually care.
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Post by scrappintoee on Feb 3, 2024 0:14:40 GMT
My jaw hit the floor when she refused to text you whenever she wasn't going to work. Are you KIDDING me? After ALL you've done for her, and she can't let you know she's off; therefore, making YOUR work day more hectic and stressful. And now your boss is on leave, too? What a nightmare! Hope things get better there OR you get a new job. Please treat yourself to MANY nice things this weekend!
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Post by busy on Feb 3, 2024 0:55:14 GMT
HR is there to protect the company. You're now officially a problem for the company. I don't say that to suggest you shouldn't have gone to them, but now that this has been reported outside of your department, it's going to be easier to get you to leave than to fix all the problems you've been taking care of and are at the end of your rope with. Be careful about how you phrase things, because everything is going to be documented and if you say something in the spirit of transparency, they are likely to use it against you in the future. Do what you must at work and nothing more. Focus on finding a new job elsewhere. Good luck. They don't deserve you. Ok how do you figure she's the problem? The lazy/not doing her job co-worker is the problem. If they make jeremysgirl leave, then they are really up shits creek without a paddle. Nothing will get fixed if she leaves - if she's at the end of her rope because of the other person, and she is the one doing all the amazing work - they should be getting rid of the problem and hiring somebody who will actually work! I think you misunderstood my post. She is not the problem to any sane person, she’s gone so far above and beyond and put up with more than 95% of people would. But she’s a problem *to the company* because she’s now making noise and they are going to have to do something. The lack of action they’ve demonstrated to now, even though lots of people knew what was going on, strongly suggests they do not care one iota about fixing this known problem, so getting forced into any kind of action probably isn’t going to go over well. ETA: Forgot to mention there's probably not a chance in hell they are going to fire or discipline someone who was on FMLA and has an ongoing medical condition that would likely be a disability under the law. It seems clear that employee is not pulling her weight or even performing the most basic requirements of a job. But the company's risk calculus has probably determined it's better to keep her even if she's doing nothing than fire her and risk an ADA lawsuit.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 3, 2024 1:28:21 GMT
I was just thinking about you yesterday and your work mess. If you get the other job you should still 100% file the HR complaint. I’m a vindictive bitch like that tho. I don’t know how you haven’t shanked someone already! Good luck in your interview! 100% this! I too was thinking about you and hoping your situation had resolved by now jeremysgirl. I’m so sorry to read you’ve had to continue dealing with this crap all this time. Good luck with your interview on Tuesday!
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Post by dewryce on Feb 3, 2024 2:08:16 GMT
Personally, I think you should file regardless, and let all of your higher ups, and a person on your level who works with you know. Because the next person that steps into your position will have to deal with it.
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Post by bethany102399 on Feb 3, 2024 2:52:11 GMT
I agree that HR could perceive you as being the problem b/c you've started making noise. It all depends on who upper management sees as the problem. In no way do I think you're the problem, I think you've been beyond patient with the situation and had no choice but to make noise. But I've also seen people and HR protect, beyond belief, people they want to protect. I've worked with people whom I swear must have blackmail on their supervisors they were so incompetent and they were continued to be backed up.
I'm sorry it's come to this, and I hope the interview goes well for you.
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Post by quietgirl on Feb 3, 2024 3:26:24 GMT
I'm sorry there has been no resolution with your co worker and boss. Those are difficult things to deal with day in and out. Especially people for her work copying you on everything! Jeez! Wow... Anyway... I wish you so much luck with the interview. Fingers crossed! You got this
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Post by librarylady on Feb 3, 2024 3:41:14 GMT
Personally, I think you should file regardless, and let all of your higher ups, and a person on your level who works with you know. Because the next person that steps into your position will have to deal with it. I agree. It might prevent the next person from trying to work in this impossible situation. I send you good karma for a resolution to this problem.
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Post by candleangie on Feb 3, 2024 5:08:32 GMT
Ok how do you figure she's the problem? The lazy/not doing her job co-worker is the problem. If they make jeremysgirl leave, then they are really up shits creek without a paddle. Nothing will get fixed if she leaves - if she's at the end of her rope because of the other person, and she is the one doing all the amazing work - they should be getting rid of the problem and hiring somebody who will actually work! I think you misunderstood my post. She is not the problem to any sane person, she’s gone so far above and beyond and put up with more than 95% of people would. But she’s a problem *to the company* because she’s now making noise and they are going to have to do something. The lack of action they’ve demonstrated to now, even though lots of people knew what was going on, strongly suggests they do not care one iota about fixing this known problem, so getting forced into any kind of action probably isn’t going to go over well. ETA: Forgot to mention there's probably not a chance in hell they are going to fire or discipline someone who was on FMLA and has an ongoing medical condition that would likely be a disability under the law. It seems clear that employee is not pulling her weight or even performing the most basic requirements of a job. But the company's risk calculus has probably determined it's better to keep her even if she's doing nothing than fire her and risk an ADA lawsuit. Yep, unfortunately….
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Post by mikklynn on Feb 4, 2024 16:04:27 GMT
I am so sorry you are still dealing with this nightmare.
I think you have handled it very professionally. You have stated the facts. It is unreasonable for your coworker to not post an out of office message and let you know her availability or lack thereof.
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