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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 29, 2023 8:23:44 GMT
Do you have the original data you sent her? Not knowing her, in addition to the above mentioned possibilities I’d be concerned she could try and blame any errors on you. I can't remember if I sent a copy of the spreadsheet or if I just told them where it was in the files. I'll need to check when I get into the office today. I also want to check if she put the document back. Honestly I don't believe she is doing anything with malice. |
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Post by Peamac on Sept 29, 2023 9:38:52 GMT
Well now I'm just sitting back with a bucket of popcorn. My week was stressful but I've set myself up for a relatively easy Friday. So that's the good news. The bad news is that contract that needed to be done two weeks ago and that I sent over the data for days before I left on my vacation still hasn't been addressed. The office that works with the IT guys on this contract, contacted my boss's boss about it stating that our office was stalling and risking people's paychecks. My director and his assistant today both reached out to her in a desperate attempt to get her to put together the data needed for the contract. This was this morning. She just responded. And her data is without the necessary accounting elements for them to complete the contract. So I'm sitting here waiting for someone to notice. Meanwhile I've got a whole trail of emails to prove that it wasn't me. Popcorn while we wait? In other news, there were two reports due tomorrow. I completed one this morning doing all the work myself. Submitted by 9 am. The other one, I did all the work for my offices and sent to them over two weeks ago to finish. This morning, in a meeting, we were reminded of this deadline tomorrow. So I went looking for it to see if it had been done. It had disappeared. I sent a message to her and my boss asking what had happened and telling them that I feared all my work was lost. She responded that she took it off the server and saved it to her own computer. (A no-no). So my boss saw that, as well. I just hope she preserved my work but again, paper trail. This makes me so nervous, though, that I'm tempted to start saving copies of things to my own computer in case this happens again. Email yourself a copy of the document after you send her the link when it's ready for her input. That way you have a timestamped version of what she received. I have a coworker who CC's herself on most emails she sends out, for her own records. And BCC is a wonderful thing too! |
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Post by mich5481 on Sept 29, 2023 12:50:18 GMT
Email yourself a copy of the document after you send her the link when it's ready for her input. That way you have a timestamped version of what she received. I have a coworker who CC's herself on most emails she sends out, for her own records. And BCC is a wonderful thing too! I have a lot of coworkers who CC themselves as well - I assume so they can file those reply emails with the original emails, instead of having to search multiple folders in Outlook. |
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Post by Mel on Sept 29, 2023 13:00:10 GMT
It sounds like she is scrambling and trying to make it seem as though she didn't get the original stuff so that when it is due and not completed she can say that she was waiting for such and such so it's not her fault. Not necessarily with malice, just desperation.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Sept 29, 2023 13:26:04 GMT
I agree with this. I don't think any of this comes with any kind of animosity towards me. I just think we have a situation where someone is not accepting they can no longer handle the workload. And I totally sympathize because that would be a hard pill for me to swallow too if I were in her shoes. But now I think things are getting really out of hand. And between her and my boss, I'm concerned that I am looking bad.Hopefully with your boss's boss being brought into the loop on the contract issue things will come to a head soon. If having the boss's boss involved doesn't yield a resolution, then that would indicate to me that problems go higher up than just your department. I still think it would be prudent for you to start checking out the job market and seeing what other opportunities are open to you. If you stay in a bad situation too long you risk the stench of bad performance (hers) rubbing off on you by association. |
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Post by Prenticekid on Sept 29, 2023 14:00:56 GMT
IMO, your boss is the problem here. I've been in your co-worker's situation. I had some health matters that made me miss a lot of work and made me not able to be as productive or mindful when I was at work. I ended up being extremely overwhelmed. I felt like things were just spinning around me and I was paralyzed about how to deal with things. I also felt worthless and became extremely depressed. My boss pulled my a$$ in for a chit chat - before it effected too much. (It was literally my mess, and had not yet become anyone else's problem, or effected clients) We came up with a plan on how to get me through the struggles. It took two attempts with some minor tweaks for things to start coming out better. It is really too bad that your co-worker (or you!) did not receive that sort of support from your boss. Things could have been different, or changes could have been made that made less impact than the failure that seems to be coming.
I hope you don't mind me sharing. But one of the things that kind of gets to me when we discuss these sorts of things here is that no one owns up to being "that person" or in this case "that co-worker."
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 29, 2023 14:32:34 GMT
To me she doesn't read as crazy. She reads as desperate. Desperate people do sometimes do crazy things, but if she is not functioning well and not up to the job, I can see her trying to cover her behind in a lot of these ways. I feel for her, even if she's made poor choices and put jeremysgirl in a big bind. Evem though I put some of those motives oit there, I'm not convinced it is calculating or vengeful. ALthough the server thing is not cool at all. I agree with this. I don't think any of this comes with any kind of animosity towards me. I just think we have a situation where someone is not accepting they can no longer handle the workload. And I totally sympathize because that would be a hard pill for me to swallow too if I were in her shoes. But now I think things are getting really out of hand. And between her and my boss, I'm concerned that I am looking bad. If anything, I would think it’s your boss who will come out looking the worst IMO. It wasn’t/isn’t your job to manage your coworker and your boss totally dropped the ball by not effectively handling the situation when it was brought to his attention repeatedly. You’ve been put in the unfortunate situation of being the bystander watching this whole train wreck go down. |
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Post by pantsonfire on Sept 29, 2023 15:10:51 GMT
I have been away and am just catching up.
This is just my thought, but I would get my ducks in a row and start looking for for a position with a new company.
Things have been going wrong for awhile now and you have been stressed over their lack of help and due to the lack of work from the other person.
While they have been great about you needing breaks, overall this doesn't sound like a healthy work space and I worry what your coworker is trying to cause.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 29, 2023 16:30:42 GMT
I agree with this. I don't think any of this comes with any kind of animosity towards me. I just think we have a situation where someone is not accepting they can no longer handle the workload. And I totally sympathize because that would be a hard pill for me to swallow too if I were in her shoes. But now I think things are getting really out of hand. And between her and my boss, I'm concerned that I am looking bad.Hopefully with your boss's boss being brought into the loop on the contract issue things will come to a head soon. If having the boss's boss involved doesn't yield a resolution, then that would indicate to me that problems go higher up than just your department. I still think it would be prudent for you to start checking out the job market and seeing what other opportunities are open to you. If you stay in a bad situation too long you risk the stench of bad performance (hers) rubbing off on you by association. I applied for two other jobs this morning. I feel like it's time to get out. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 29, 2023 16:34:22 GMT
IMO, your boss is the problem here. I've been in your co-worker's situation. I had some health matters that made me miss a lot of work and made me not able to be as productive or mindful when I was at work. I ended up being extremely overwhelmed. I felt like things were just spinning around me and I was paralyzed about how to deal with things. I also felt worthless and became extremely depressed. My boss pulled my a$$ in for a chit chat - before it effected too much. (It was literally my mess, and had not yet become anyone else's problem, or effected clients) We came up with a plan on how to get me through the struggles. It took two attempts with some minor tweaks for things to start coming out better. It is really too bad that your co-worker (or you!) did not receive that sort of support from your boss. Things could have been different, or changes could have been made that made less impact than the failure that seems to be coming. I hope you don't mind me sharing. But one of the things that kind of gets to me when we discuss these sorts of things here is that no one owns up to being "that person" or in this case "that co-worker." You know I have mad respect for the way you shared and the process by which your management stepped up to help you. This is why this is so damn hard for me that I've tolerated this for almost a year now. I have my own struggles. I really do. And what's worse is that many times I cannot see it coming but I try to rebound as quickly as I can. I want to help. I really do. I have put it out there so many times that I'm here to help. I have been as understanding as I possibly can. Without some intervention I'm at the end of my rope. |
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Sept 29, 2023 16:49:52 GMT
I applied for two other jobs this morning. I feel like it's time to get out. When you know, you know. Good luck with the applications you just applied for. The right job for you and your talents is out there! |
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Sept 30, 2023 10:15:56 GMT
IMO, your boss is the problem here. I've been in your co-worker's situation. I had some health matters that made me miss a lot of work and made me not able to be as productive or mindful when I was at work. I ended up being extremely overwhelmed. I felt like things were just spinning around me and I was paralyzed about how to deal with things. I also felt worthless and became extremely depressed. My boss pulled my a$$ in for a chit chat - before it effected too much. (It was literally my mess, and had not yet become anyone else's problem, or effected clients) We came up with a plan on how to get me through the struggles. It took two attempts with some minor tweaks for things to start coming out better. It is really too bad that your co-worker (or you!) did not receive that sort of support from your boss. Things could have been different, or changes could have been made that made less impact than the failure that seems to be coming. I hope you don't mind me sharing. But one of the things that kind of gets to me when we discuss these sorts of things here is that no one owns up to being "that person" or in this case "that co-worker." You know I have mad respect for the way you shared and the process by which your management stepped up to help you. This is why this is so damn hard for me that I've tolerated this for almost a year now. I have my own struggles. I really do. And what's worse is that many times I cannot see it coming but I try to rebound as quickly as I can. I want to help. I really do. I have put it out there so many times that I'm here to help. I have been as understanding as I possibly can. Without some intervention I'm at the end of my rope. Hugs Prenticekidjeremysgirl Forgive me if you've already done this, but I think it would be really helpful to go to your boss, tell them that this might be happening to your co-worker and ask them for the boss to arrange that kind of intervention with your co-worker. You're worried about her, first and foremost, as well as how all this is impacting you and the company. It's such an unfortunate situation all round, but the boss needs to step up and take action before the company loses you for good. Have you been able to have that level of communication face to face with your boss? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2023 11:12:12 GMT
Didn't want to read an run. So much, and I am so sorry. Praying some resolution is made soon for everyone's sake!
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 2, 2023 11:45:41 GMT
That's it. I have hit my limit. I logged in at 6 this morning to see she had submitted that report late on Friday night only to see that none of my work was there. I responded to all three of them that I was contacting IT this morning for them to see if they could retrieve the document back at the last point I saved it. I sent a message to my boss and his assistant director letting them know that I'm angry they haven't addressed any of my concerns over the past few months. And then I sent an email to my boss's boss. I thought long and hard about doing that. But I felt that this was the last straw for me.
I asked her to keep it confidential. However I don't even care if there's fallout from this. I don't even care at this point if they fire me. When I saw that version of the report that was submitted I nearly cried. I'm at the end of my rope.
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Post by eventhinker on Oct 2, 2023 11:56:45 GMT
This latest update shook me! I have had similar but not as drastic things happen.
I returned to work 5 weeks after I was hospitalized with Covid (ventilator, rehab) and my husband passed away (also ventilator, Covid). I was afraid if I didn’t go back, we would not have money for bills and would lose the house! No one could talk me out of returning, I thought it was the right thing.
The brain fog that remained with me caused me to only be able to concentrate for very short periods of time, and when I had come back to work (was gone 8 weeks) “helpers” had rearranged and mucked things up. I spent a few days trying to sort things, if they had done my work and respected my office space it would have been one thing, but things were changed around as if I wasn’t expected back at all.
after 4 months I put in my notice.
i wish your coworker had done the same, clearly she’s in that same overwhelm and either recognizes it and is in denial, or doesn’t recognize, which arguably is worse.
I hope your latest action yields results!
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Post by cakediva on Oct 2, 2023 12:01:38 GMT
Oh man - I'm so sorry to hear this update. I hope the boss of the boss turns some heads and sets things right. This is so not ok!!
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Post by moretimeplease on Oct 2, 2023 12:12:08 GMT
That's it. I have hit my limit. I logged in at 6 this morning to see she had submitted that report late on Friday night only to see that none of my work was there. I responded to all three of them that I was contacting IT this morning for them to see if they could retrieve the document back at the last point I saved it. You may be able to find the old version yourself. Right-click on the folder that houses your report; see if there is an option to “restore previous version”. If you have that option, you’ll probably see several save points over the last week. Good luck! ETA… if you find it, email it to yourself or save it with a new name. That is the saved-over version and will eventually disappear. |
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Post by compeateropeator on Oct 2, 2023 12:22:33 GMT
I am so sorry for the update. Good for you to bring this to the attention of others. I would not feel bad about including upper management (your bosses boss). At every meeting that I have ever had with people in these positions, they always say don’t hesitate to come to me if you you have questions or issues. You have both and they have not been addressed. You are not being petty, looking for revenge, looking to rock the boat, etc - you are looking to rectify work quality issues that you are a part of and that are important to your company. Sometimes it just needs to be done and you have followed proper protocol. I am sorry and I hope that all issues can be resolved.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Oct 2, 2023 12:38:09 GMT
Oh no! This is not the update that any of us, least of all you, had hoped for. Hopefully IT is able to get a copy of your work. Did she even attempt to incorporate any of your work as her own?
I think it was an excellent move to respond quickly, and in the way that you did, especially the email to the boss's boss. While I have little hope for anything constructive from your boss, one would think the next level up would care about the shenanigans going on. Will be thinking of you today. You've got this and are going to end up just fine, be it there or in a new position elsewhere. Just going to have to wade through the muck first.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 2, 2023 12:41:25 GMT
That's it. I have hit my limit. I logged in at 6 this morning to see she had submitted that report late on Friday night only to see that none of my work was there. I responded to all three of them that I was contacting IT this morning for them to see if they could retrieve the document back at the last point I saved it. You may be able to find the old version yourself. Right-click on the folder that houses your report; see if there is an option to “restore previous version”. If you have that option, you’ll probably see several save points over the last week. Good luck! ETA… if you find it, email it to yourself or save it with a new name. That is the saved-over version and will eventually disappear. I tried this truck this morning. However, I finished the document on 9/13 so I needed to put in a formal call to the help desk. He's been emailing back and forth with me this morning and I should have the document here shortly. Thank goodness. I also went back in my email and found the document I had submitted last year so they could see how it (this years) was incomplete. My boss scheduled a meeting for 9 am. His boss scheduled a meeting for 11 am. |
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Post by christine58 on Oct 2, 2023 12:46:31 GMT
jeremysgirl I give you a lot of credit for putting up with this bullshit for as long as you have. At this point, I don’t know that it’s worth the stress that you’re continuing to be under because you’re working with an incompetent person. I hope you’ve put feelers out for other jobs because you’re obviously very good at what you do and I’m sure that you wouldn’t have a problem finding another job someplace. you’ve put up with this longer than I would have
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Oct 2, 2023 12:59:19 GMT
My boss scheduled a meeting for 9 am. His boss scheduled a meeting for 11 am. Glad to see they are both taking this seriously. Will be thinking of you during those meetings. Hold your head up and use that anger to your advantage! You got this! |
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Post by seaexplore on Oct 2, 2023 13:03:53 GMT
Oh man! Please keep us posted on the fall out. What a shit thing for someone to do to you. I’m proud of you for taking control of the situation and getting it all out. IT will have your document to show all the work you did is gone. I hope they do the right thing and fire
Her.
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Post by jemali on Oct 2, 2023 13:14:19 GMT
Your last update makes me angry for you too. Up until now she has just been letting you cover for her without her doing anything. For her to actually *delete* your data is a different story. That has premeditation involved. As far as I am concerned that should be a firable offense.
I am glad that it sounds like your IT Dept can get your version back.
I’m glad your went to your boss’s boss too. He has let it go for far too long.
Good luck at your meetings.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 2, 2023 13:27:41 GMT
That is infuriating! I think you are more than justified to escalate this with the bosses and hope that things turn out well today.
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Post by mikklynn on Oct 2, 2023 13:33:54 GMT
I think you handled things properly. I hope you get some positive results from your meetings today.
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Post by Neisey on Oct 2, 2023 13:35:43 GMT
How frustrating for you! I hope your two meetings this morning result in some positive steps forward with your company or clarity that it’s time to move on.
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Post by pantsonfire on Oct 2, 2023 13:36:36 GMT
I honestly think after the 11am meeting you should quit. Hand them your numbers and bounce. Unless financially that isn't in your best interest, I believe the stress this work environment is creating is not worth holding out to find a new job with a new company.
It says a lot when the company is more interested in protecting a very under performing employee than stepping up to make sure everyone is doing their duties. To wait until the end when there is critical data that is needed is BS. And your boss is only trying to save his ass. No one else's. No one cares about the bottom line, just their bottoms.
I hope you are able to find a new position you love.
And keep records incase this ever comes up in job hunting conversation. Or this job retaliates. Because at this point one employee already has.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 2, 2023 14:07:29 GMT
I have very mixed feelings about my meeting just now with my boss. He gave me a million excuses why he's not dealing with this situation. He's just been too overwhelmed with a bunch of other things from his higher ups than to deal with his employees?
They did, however, promise to try to address this situation today. They did validate all my concerns. But what it came down to is them being too busy to deal with this situation, as well as it being a sensitive matter because of her health.
I made it clear that if something doesn't change, I'll be leaving. That one really bothered them. My boss said he needs to address this because me leaving is not an option and he needs to do what it takes to retain me.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 2, 2023 14:10:27 GMT
I honestly think after the 11am meeting you should quit. Hand them your numbers and bounce. Unless financially that isn't in your best interest, I believe the stress this work environment is creating is not worth holding out to find a new job with a new company. It says a lot when the company is more interested in protecting a very under performing employee than stepping up to make sure everyone is doing their duties. To wait until the end when there is critical data that is needed is BS. And your boss is only trying to save his ass. No one else's. No one cares about the bottom line, just their bottoms. I hope you are able to find a new position you love. And keep records incase this ever comes up in job hunting conversation. Or this job retaliates. Because at this point one employee already has. I can appreciate this. And I certainly feel like I'd like to walk away. But we count on my income. I'll keep looking for alternate employment. But I can't just walk away. |
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