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Post by Scrapper100 on Oct 2, 2023 20:11:45 GMT
What a mess. Iām glad your second meeting went well and it sounds like something may come of that. I hope your coworker just used the wrong file and didnāt delete your work. It sounds like that may be the case but it really sounds like there needs to be a better system so that this canāt happen again. It sounds like your boss is a mess and glad that his supervisor is aware of the situation.
I hope things get straightened out quickly or that you find another job soon. This sounds way too stressful but understand not being able to just quit without another source of income.
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Post by mikklynn on Oct 3, 2023 12:30:00 GMT
Clearly going over your boss's head was the right thing to do. I think they need to let him and the coworker go.
I'm really hoping things improve for you.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Oct 4, 2023 12:44:33 GMT
jeremysgirl are you ok? This would put me on edge if things are coming to a head in the office, so i just wanted to check in on you...
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 4, 2023 13:55:44 GMT
jeremysgirl are you ok? This would put me on edge if things are coming to a head in the office, so i just wanted to check in on you... I'm having a weird time right now. Yesterday, I reached out to the agency that received the incomplete report from my coworker on Friday night. I had decided I wasn't doing the work to combine the reports and nothing had been said about it by my boss. So I sent the agency a copy of my recovered document with everything I had addressed highlighted. My boss was not happy about this. He admonished me saying that I made all of us look bad. I responded to him that it was only a matter of time before that report was evaluated by the agency and determined to be incomplete. So I felt like I was heading things off. I told him I had expected he would have addressed this issue by telling one of us to combine the data and resend the report. So we had a difference of opinion. I just told him that I heard his concerns and would be more cautious about my communications in the future. In hindsight, I probably shouldn't have handled it that way. But I was basically trying to cover my ass and I conveyed to him that as soon as that report was reviewed we would have been called to the carpet anyway. Then my coworker got a bit upset about the fact that I took issue with this. She assumed I was accusing her of deleting the work I did. I reached out and apologized to her stating that I didn't think she did anything nefarious. That I assumed it was simply a mistake of overwriting. I do truly believe this. I also suggested that we have a weekly meeting so we can discuss what is going on with boss invited if he wants to come. I had stated to her that I had that portion of the report done three weeks ago and if she had done it earlier in the week this whole problem could have been corrected before submission. She was receptive to the idea of a weekly meeting and I did schedule one. But no one seems to want to address the elephant in the room of, if we were doing the work in a timely manner, none of these things would be an issue. Waiting until the last minute is the crux of the problem here. I had said to my boss Monday that I think part of her issue is that she's not working enough hours and can't handle the workload. How is it I managed to get this done three weeks prior (before my vacation) and she didn't have enough time to get it done for a review before sending? No one seems to want to discuss this. I also learned yesterday that the assistant director is being demoted. He is being reassigned to strictly be mine and her supervisor. He will no longer have any power over the other units in our division. It was announced yesterday to the managers in our division. So the director of our division will no longer be my direct boss. This role is specifically being created. And he (the assistant director, my new boss) let me know yesterday that he intends to get right down into the work with us. So it's my feeling that this move was done for two reasons 1) she can't handle her workload so he's intending to pick up her slack thereby relieving me of this burden and 2) they believe her and I need more intense management. (That last reason scares me as I am not needing to be micromanaged) But these are the conclusions I've come to given all this new information. I had to just turn my head all away from it yesterday. It just felt like it was too much for my brain to handle. I participated a lot on the dinner thread yesterday trying to lighten my mood. But I slept yucky last night and the anxiety of this situation ramped up this morning. I have just gotten out of the most important meeting we have each week. She did not attend. And I told my boss I had something at home that needed to be addressed. My workload was light today so I figured after all that's gone on in the past two days, I needed to just sit today and do something to take my mind off all this. I'll probably log in later and address any emails. At the very least I needed to walk away for a few hours. I'll make up time on Saturday probably. |
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Post by littlemama on Oct 4, 2023 14:06:18 GMT
Dont assume that he is there to micromanage you. He is more likely there to figure out the issies in the department which all seem to come back to her. Do you think he will be effective at taking care of the issues? I dont know if he is one of the people mentioned in the events of the past.
In any event, people who get demoted dont tend to stick around.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 4, 2023 14:16:54 GMT
Dont assume that he is there to micromanage you. He is more likely there to figure out the issies in the department which all seem to come back to her. Do you think he will be effective at taking care of the issues? I dont know if he is one of the people mentioned in the events of the past. In any event, people who get demoted dont tend to stick around. I hope that is the case, really I do. But I'm not optimistic. This was decided by my boss's boss so the woman I talked to on Monday. And it was decided prior to our conversation on Monday. So I'm not quite sure what the basis for this decision was. All I know is that I do my work. I do my work well and in a timely manner. Maybe he will get in the weeds and really be able to see what is going on. It just seems weird to me that they would take the back up person for the director and reassign him. Because it was made clear to me on Monday the powers that be do think already that my director is struggling. |
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Oct 4, 2023 14:21:42 GMT
Sounds like your boss and your co-worker are getting defensive and doing a lot of back peddling. I suspect your boss knows he is on thin ice now and is deflecting where he can. Keep that paper trail going and keep looking for other positions elsewhere. This could get worse before it gets better. I also learned yesterday that the assistant director is being demoted. He is being reassigned to strictly be mine and her supervisor. He will no longer have any power over the other units in our division. Interesting turn of events. That means that the big boss is not wasting time in making changes which is good. I agree with littlemama that demoted employees tend to leave as soon as they find another opportunity. |
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Post by busy on Oct 4, 2023 15:02:28 GMT
Just do your job and nothing else.
Keep looking for a new job elsewhere. IMO the situation where you are in unsalvageable and your extra efforts are going to waste. Focus on your job hunt and do only whatās required for your role. It will feel weird and not like you, but itās still more than a lot of people do. Itās ok. You donāt always have to go the extra mile, especially when no one else is even meeting baseline.
Good luck ā¤ļø
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Post by littlemama on Oct 4, 2023 15:11:11 GMT
Dont assume that he is there to micromanage you. He is more likely there to figure out the issies in the department which all seem to come back to her. Do you think he will be effective at taking care of the issues? I dont know if he is one of the people mentioned in the events of the past. In any event, people who get demoted dont tend to stick around. I hope that is the case, really I do. But I'm not optimistic. This was decided by my boss's boss so the woman I talked to on Monday. And it was decided prior to our conversation on Monday. So I'm not quite sure what the basis for this decision was. All I know is that I do my work. I do my work well and in a timely manner. Maybe he will get in the weeds and really be able to see what is going on. It just seems weird to me that they would take the back up person for the director and reassign him. Because it was made clear to me on Monday the powers that be do think already that my director is struggling. My thinking is that they are putting him there to watch what the bigger boss is doing as well as your coworker. The bigger boss is struggling, so they are forcing the issue by making him sink or swim. I would take a wait and see attitude and see how this guy does with getting things straightened out. |
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Post by gillyp on Oct 4, 2023 15:48:46 GMT
I hope that is the case, really I do. But I'm not optimistic. This was decided by my boss's boss so the woman I talked to on Monday. And it was decided prior to our conversation on Monday. So I'm not quite sure what the basis for this decision was. All I know is that I do my work. I do my work well and in a timely manner. Maybe he will get in the weeds and really be able to see what is going on. It just seems weird to me that they would take the back up person for the director and reassign him. Because it was made clear to me on Monday the powers that be do think already that my director is struggling. My thinking is that they are putting him there to watch what the bigger boss is doing as well as your coworker. The bigger boss is struggling, so they are forcing the issue by making him sink or swim. I would take a wait and see attitude and see how this guy does with getting things straightened out. I tend to agree with this. It's rare for a manager who is working ineffectively to be demoted, they are normally let go in my experience. From the outside I think he's there on a fact finding mission. Workplace stress can make you really ill, please look after yourself. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 4, 2023 15:58:52 GMT
Just do your job and nothing else. Keep looking for a new job elsewhere. IMO the situation where you are in unsalvageable and your extra efforts are going to waste. Focus on your job hunt and do only whatās required for your role. It will feel weird and not like you, but itās still more than a lot of people do. Itās ok. You donāt always have to go the extra mile, especially when no one else is even meeting baseline. Good luck ā¤ļø I agree with this! Don't do anything more to try and help - seriously. Do your job and let the chips fall. You would not be the first one to be scapegoated by trying to help. |
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Post by stormsts on Oct 4, 2023 16:04:09 GMT
Well, thatās an interesting turn of events.
I am glad you checked out for the day. Your mental health is important!
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Post by silverlining on Oct 4, 2023 16:34:48 GMT
I'm so sorry that this is still so stressful.
Do you know for sure that this guy has been demoted? Is it possible that they have given him a special assignment? Maybe somebody in HR has figured out that someone with disabilities was being given no documented support or accommodations and an excellent employee is on the verge of leaving because of having to do two jobs?
I agree with continuing to do only your own work. The silver lining here is that you can include this assistant director on every email to your co-worker and he can figure out how to get her part done. You also have permission to bcc your boss's boss, so take advantage of that.
Good luck with your job search! And check to see if you have unused sick leave or vacation time and use it up for your job search and especially for taking the best possible care of yourself. My gut feeling is that you're going to end up with something much better!
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Oct 4, 2023 16:40:03 GMT
I agree with continuing to do only your own work. The silver lining here is that you can include this assistant director on every email to your co-worker and he can figure out how to get her part done. You also have permission to bcc your boss's boss, so take advantage of that.  And always use up the sick leave before vacation days. Vacation days they have to pay you for if/when you leave, that's not always the case with sick days. |
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Post by scrapmaven on Oct 4, 2023 16:45:18 GMT
I think the person who has the most to fear is your boss. He's more scared than angry, but he blames you for exposing him, rather than taking responsibility for the fact that he was too inept to handle her. I think this new boss is being sent to turn things around and he'll be focused on your boss and co-worker. Of course, they both are angry, bcecause you were smart enough to cya. They should be scared. You opened their can of worms and it needed to be protected.
Just keep doing the great job you always do. Document everything and be honest, but positive w/your new boss. I'm not worried about your job security, but your boss should be shaking in his boots. He will come down hard on you in order to protect himself, so just keep cya. This could be the resolution that you need.
Relax today and know that this could mean relief is coming.
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Post by mikklynn on Oct 4, 2023 16:47:58 GMT
Good for you, taking a little time to step away. That is smart.
I really feel like it's just a matter of time before your boss and coworker are let go. When it happens, remember it was their doing, NOT YOURS.
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Post by Rhondito on Oct 4, 2023 20:22:56 GMT
You mentioned the other day that your boss said one reason he hasn't addressed the situation with your coworker is that he hasn't had time because he's been dealing with issues from higher up. I think they've put this asst. director in to handle what your boss hasn't been able to do; it's not an issue with you, it's about your boss not being able to handle his workload which includes not keeping your coworker in line. I don't think your should worry.
I'm sorry you're having to deal with all this stress. It makes my heart hurt for you because I've been there with work issues before and I know it can be awful.
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Post by Basket1lady on Oct 4, 2023 23:17:29 GMT
You mentioned the other day that your boss said one reason he hasn't addressed the situation with your coworker is that he hasn't had time because he's been dealing with issues from higher up. I think they've put this asst. director in to handle what your boss hasn't been able to do; it's not an issue with you, it's about your boss not being able to handle his workload which includes not keeping your coworker in line. I don't think your should worry. I'm sorry you're having to deal with all this stress. It makes my heart hurt for you because I've been there with work issues before and I know it can be awful. I agree. They likely want to know if itās the coworker, your boss, or something else. It probably doesnāt have much to do with you at all (although itās obviously affecting you greatly, both with your work load and mentally.) They likely canāt tell you much because it has to do with your coworker. Thatās frustrating, but unlikely because they are coming after you. This must be incredibly stressful, but I would encourage you to carry on. Do your work and do it well. If you are within your work hours and done with your own work, offer to take a task from your coworker. But donāt work over your allotted time and keep up with your good standards. Hopefully this will come to a resolution soon. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Oct 4, 2023 23:42:08 GMT
You said that the big boss had decided to do this before your meeting so it sounds like she knew things were becoming an issue. While your boss may be annoyed it sounds like the big boss knew there was a problem but wasnāt sure if the details. You meeting with her probably helped fill in sone gaps snd then with this change she will have even more answers. I hope he doesnāt micromanage and that things get better soon.
Like others have said use your sick time if you have it. Leaving today snd knowing you needed to, is better than a lot of people. Many arenāt aware enough to realize it until they are at a critical level of stress. You seem more in tune if that makes sense. Good luck. I really hope this job works out and sooner than later but if not I hope your feelers work out.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 5, 2023 13:31:28 GMT
Let me know if my updates are bothering anyone and I'll stop. But I know that sometimes once you get into a story, you really want to hear how it plays out. (If you're a nosey Nellie, like meš)
But anyway, I took two hours off yesterday morning just to collect the thoughts in my head. I logged back in at noon and I saw that the man who is to be my new boss was actually in our office yesterday. So I picked up my computer and went in. I sat there with him and I just asked if he had any idea of his new job description or duties. He said that he hadn't had much time to consider the news yet and nothing formal has been presented to him. Our director and the big boss haven't expressly said to him what his day-to-day role is to be. So I took the bull by the horns because I figured if I could help steer the ship that maybe my chances of being micromanaged would be slimmer.
So I told him if he's thinking he's going to end up down in the weeds with us, the one thing I could use help with is managing all the IT contracts and finances. I proceeded to share with him everything going on, what I know, where the tough/struggle parts are, and said I could really use some assistance if he wanted to jump in on that. I thought this was good idea because I would be able to steer the ship a bit and maybe get some assistance on something that is very big and very difficult.
I walked away feeling very good about my choice to be proactive given the situation.
Then this morning, the big boss had scheduled an 8 am meeting at 8pm last night. But me, coworker, and new boss all showed up. And coworker proceeded to repeat what I said when asked direct questions by the big boss. By the end of the meeting I was ready to smack her. Twice she repeated me near word for word and twice she said, I was just going to suggest that. š
Anyway, I'm shaking it off. I have no more meetings today thankfully and can just keep my head down and do my work without issue.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 5, 2023 14:09:02 GMT
No way can you stop updating now, weāre all invested in this with you!  That said, I really donāt think the new boss was sent in to lord over you. I felt exactly the way you do when I faced a similar work situation years ago. I was basically the catalyst that brought all of the issues in our department to a head because I refused to do parts of my bossā job that I wasnāt licensed to do (but that my predecessor routinely did). Anyway, there was minor shuffling that I thought was about me, but really it was just to get me out of the way until a MAJOR reshuffling could happen, because my boss at the time was the one who actually needed more supervision. After that, I was moved back, I got a great new boss and all was awesome. I think itās good that you stepped right up with the new boss and demonstrated that you are a team player looking for ways to improve efficiency. Iām really hoping everything works out to your benefit. |
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Post by anaterra on Oct 5, 2023 14:14:29 GMT
<<<<admits to be nosey nellie!!
But more thrn that I am really interested in the outcome for you...
I hope steering the ship the way you want it to head helps immensely...
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Post by Mel on Oct 5, 2023 14:14:45 GMT
It sounds like getting a jump on things with the "new" guy is going to be a good thing since no one else has really talked to him. He knows what your needs are so he can compare that to what they think the needs are and maybe figure out what the real problem is. Hang in there!! And, yeah, I'm a nosey Nellie too... hehe
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 5, 2023 14:22:41 GMT
No way can you stop updating now, weāre all invested in this with you! That said, I really donāt think the new boss was sent in to lord over you. I felt exactly the way you do when I faced a similar work situation years ago. I was basically the catalyst that brought all of the issues in our department to a head because I refused to do parts of my bossā job that I wasnāt licensed to do (but that my predecessor routinely did). Anyway, there was minor shuffling that I thought was about me, but really it was just to get me out of the way until a MAJOR reshuffling could happen, because my boss at the time was the one who actually needed more supervision. After that, I was moved back, I got a great new boss and all was awesome. I think itās good that you stepped right up with the new boss and demonstrated that you are a team player looking for ways to improve efficiency. Iām really hoping everything works out to your benefit. When I hear stories like this it makes me feel so much better. ā¤ļø Like maybe there isn't impending doom, kwim? Besides it was me who wanted changes. So I'm clearly getting changes and we will see how they work out for us. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 5, 2023 14:39:01 GMT
We're peas, did you expect us not to be nosey?
Wishing you the very best!!
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Post by Bridget in MD on Oct 5, 2023 14:53:17 GMT
<<<<admits to be nosey nellie!! But more thrn that I am really interested in the outcome for you... I hope steering the ship the way you want it to head helps immensely... word for word!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Oct 5, 2023 15:23:18 GMT
Another nosey Nellie here. That and we care what happens to you. Itās easy to just skip over a thread if we donāt care. Please keep updating.
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Post by Rhondito on Oct 5, 2023 15:59:43 GMT
We're not nosey - we care about you and want to make sure you're okay.
I love that you were proactive and talked with new boss; it shows you are invested and want things to run smoothly.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 5, 2023 16:14:34 GMT
I do appreciate the care...I was just making a joke because I am, in fact, nosey. š I have so appreciated all the feedback though. You guys have no idea just how valuable some of the insights on this thread have been for me. I tend to be reactive instead of proactive and this is really helping me get my thoughts in order of how best to move forward.
Group hug! ā¤ļø
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Oct 5, 2023 16:23:51 GMT
Good lord, no. Don't stop updating us! Inquiring minds want to know.
Now that things have been set in motion, maybe there will be an outcome you can live with. I know I have my fingers crossed for you that work becomes enjoyable again and not a source of so much stress for you.
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And always use up the sick leave before vacation days. Vacation days they have to pay you for if/when you leave, that's not always the case with sick days. 
