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Post by katlady on Oct 21, 2023 20:30:07 GMT
“I'm not a fan of her music, too much autotune for my taste. ” I always think that’s funny when people say that. So, who do you listen to and like? That doesnt use auto tune? I have seen/heard Taylor just sit and sing playing a guitar or piano, on her own, and it sound good. I am more of an alternative rock music fan, so I won't bother sharing bands that I listen to. But there are plenty of pop singers that aren't heavy on the auto tune. If you want a list, here are a few. Pink, Adam Lambert, Kelly Clarkson, Celine Dion are not heavy on auto tune. Beyonce can sing, although I feel like she's falling into that heavy auto tune trap too. I'm not familiar with Taylor Swift's natural singing voice. If it sounds good, then why do they heavily auto tune her songs? It's a shame to hide a good voice. I love hearing good vocals! If it's good, I say let her belt it out. Of current singers, they say that Bruno Mars does not use auto tune.
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Post by myshelly on Oct 21, 2023 23:02:48 GMT
She is this generation’s heart throb. For the most part I think she is a better role model than a lot of other entertainers. As far as her romantic life she has the attention span of a nat. On the other hand you would have separate publicity arrangements from real true relationships. She certainly isn’t ready to be in a committed relationship, and that if fine if that’s her choice. If it comes down to Kim Kardashian or Taylor Swift, I’ll take 100 Taylors. Oh look - more internalized misogyny from old people who care enough to type out a post, but don’t care enough to do a google search to fact check it first. Do you know a lot of gnats (it’s spelled gnats, by the way) with six year attention spans?
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Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 22, 2023 2:55:46 GMT
“I'm not a fan of her music, too much autotune for my taste. ” I always think that’s funny when people say that. So, who do you listen to and like? That doesnt use auto tune? I have seen/heard Taylor just sit and sing playing a guitar or piano, on her own, and it sound good. Who? Let's see: Neko Case k.d. lang Patti Smith Mavis Staples Emmylou Harris PJ Harvey Chrissie Hynde Sharon Jones (& The Dap-Kings) Lucinda Williams Norah Jones Sam Phillips Billie Holiday Margo Timmons (Cowboy Junkies) Aretha Franklin Bjork Rickie Lee Jones Beth Orton First Aid Kit Anna Ternheim Billie Holiday The High Violets Marianne Faithfull Eliza Gilkyson Diana Krall Alison Krauss Laurie Anderson Dusty Springfield Courtney Barnett Bonnie Raitt Have you listened to her Folklore or Evermore albums?
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Post by scrappinmama on Oct 22, 2023 16:21:53 GMT
I think the real question here should be what is it about Taylor Swift that brings the worst out of some of her fans and haters? There is some nastiness on both sides that is totally out of hand. You can not be a fan, but still have respect for her empire. I certainly do! You can also be a Taylor fan without going for the jugular of anyone who isn't a fan.
Some on this thread have some valid opinions (music doesn't appeal to them, use of private jets, etc). But let's stop with the slut shaming, please. It's so 1950's. We should be better than that. And while I'm at it, let's stop being ageist. If you are lucky, you will grow to be that age some day. That's really all I have to say on this. The slut-shaming and ageism is ugly.
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Post by SallyPA on Oct 30, 2023 1:56:37 GMT
I love her. She has had quite a career and I love how her music has grown with her. She writes every single one of her own songs. On the Eras tour, she sings and dances her ass off for 3+ hours. The majority of us peas are women and tearing other women down just seems to be a favorite past time. For the record, I like Beyoncé and the Kardashians too
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Post by amom23 on Oct 30, 2023 2:11:45 GMT
DH and I saw the Eras Tour movie this afternoon. Talk about amazing! So much talent went into the music, stage, costumes, etc. Taylor is a remarkable woman who has really come into her own.
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Post by Zee on Oct 30, 2023 2:14:31 GMT
Who? Let's see: Neko Case k.d. lang Patti Smith Mavis Staples Emmylou Harris PJ Harvey Chrissie Hynde Sharon Jones (& The Dap-Kings) Lucinda Williams Norah Jones Sam Phillips Billie Holiday Margo Timmons (Cowboy Junkies) Aretha Franklin Bjork Rickie Lee Jones Beth Orton First Aid Kit Anna Ternheim Billie Holiday The High Violets Marianne Faithfull Eliza Gilkyson Diana Krall Alison Krauss Laurie Anderson Dusty Springfield Courtney Barnett Bonnie Raitt Have you listened to her Folklore or Evermore albums? I don't think that list made it past 1992 so I doubt it.
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Post by peano on Oct 30, 2023 2:24:29 GMT
Have you listened to her Folklore or Evermore albums? I don't think that list made it past 1992 so I doubt it. You're partially wrong so... I already posted that I wouldn't recognize any Taylor Swift song since I don't listen to commercial pop radio, and her Spotify top 5 elicited a blank stare from me, so it would be a no to those two albums.
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Post by rickmer on Oct 30, 2023 2:39:50 GMT
i don't know that much about her - but did watch the documentary a couple of years ago where she publicly came forward to support gay rights against advice of her manager and her dad (is that right?? i saw it years ago...). i don't begrudge her one iota of her fame, success or anything else she has achieved. i like some of her songs but in a business that chews up and spits out female artists when they are done with them, she has held strong and had an amazing career. whenever i see her in interviews, she seems genuine and gracious. what is not to like? and if she can get young people out to vote? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) times what i just said by 1000.
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Post by busy on Oct 30, 2023 5:03:28 GMT
Flavor of the month Taylor Swift became a billionaire this past week, the only billionaire musician to attain all their wealth purely through their music. (Others like Jay-Z and Rihanna have significant non-music business assets.)
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Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 30, 2023 16:11:16 GMT
Flavor of the month Taylor Swift became a billionaire this past week, the only billionaire musician to attain all their wealth purely through their music. (Others like Jay-Z and Rihanna have significant non-music business assets.) LOL!! I love it. Did they say it was mainly from her music? because I do know she has quite a bit of real estate.
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Post by Zee on Oct 30, 2023 16:13:48 GMT
Flavor of the month Taylor Swift became a billionaire this past week, the only billionaire musician to attain all their wealth purely through their music. (Others like Jay-Z and Rihanna have significant non-music business assets.) LOL!! I love it. Did they say it was mainly from her music? because I do know she has quite a bit of real estate. She also has perfume lines but I don't know what other stuff she has.
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Post by busy on Oct 30, 2023 16:21:24 GMT
Flavor of the month Taylor Swift became a billionaire this past week, the only billionaire musician to attain all their wealth purely through their music. (Others like Jay-Z and Rihanna have significant non-music business assets.) LOL!! I love it. Did they say it was mainly from her music? because I do know she has quite a bit of real estate. Her real estate is all purchased from music proceeds so isn’t considered a different source of income like, say, Fenty Beauty for Rihanna.
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Post by busy on Oct 30, 2023 16:22:35 GMT
LOL!! I love it. Did they say it was mainly from her music? because I do know she has quite a bit of real estate. She also has perfume lines but I don't know what other stuff she has. Pretty sure that’s just an endorsement/branding thing, not a business she actually owns. Forbes was clear her wealth all stems from her music catalog and performances.
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Post by Zee on Oct 30, 2023 16:30:17 GMT
She also has perfume lines but I don't know what other stuff she has. Pretty sure that’s just an endorsement/branding thing, not a business she actually owns. Forbes was clear her wealth all stems from her music catalog and performances. It's still a revenue line, whether she owns it or not. And good for her. Many artists have perfume lines that have been very profitable. I still love JLo Miami Glow in the summertime 😁
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Post by epeanymous on Oct 30, 2023 16:33:50 GMT
Flavor of the month Taylor Swift became a billionaire this past week, the only billionaire musician to attain all their wealth purely through their music. (Others like Jay-Z and Rihanna have significant non-music business assets.) Well, I have two copies of 1989(TV) out for delivery today, so I'm helping here ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/OrTI4SBmZ2ZYSFv6ag4f.jpg) . I've spent the whole weekend listening and re-listening to that album on Spotify. My entire TikTok feed right now is just people reacting to the vault songs.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 30, 2023 16:56:44 GMT
I have always been neutral about TS, I enjoy her music when I hear it, but don't seek it out. While I am an "old lady" I still remember going through a lot of what she writes about from my own my late teens and twenties, and appreciate listening to how she writes and sings about. I really would have liked to go to the concert in person just to see what it is all about, but $$$. So when the concert was released in theaters I new I needed to go. I saw it the weekend before this past weekend, and boy, it was way fun. I love theater and all things theatrical, and this concert totally delivered. While I'm still neutral about her music, she sure knows how to put on a show. Plus, I want some of those sparkly costumes ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/Q_m8lDOvc_3Le3r1GKdf.jpg) I saw Sting live in person about a month ago (bucket list for me and he was wonderful), and the difference between the two styles of concerts couldn't have been more distinct. For me, I appreciate both. I think that TS deserves any kudos she gets, and she is one smart cookie (IMHO) for re-recording her Scooter Braun albums (amongst other things).
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Post by workingclassdog on Oct 30, 2023 17:12:34 GMT
I saw Sting live in person about a month ago (bucket list for me and he was wonderful), and the difference between the two styles of concerts couldn't have been more distinct. For me, I appreciate both. I saw Billy Joel about a month after the TS concert.. SO totally different but both were good. I appreciated both. The only thing I would say sorta negative about the Billy Joel/Stevie Nicks concert, it was REALLY hard to see them on stage. In fact, I kept missing where they were at if I glanced away from the screens. With TS and how her stage is set up, it was much more easier to go from the screen directly to her. Both concerts were held in football stadiums. But anyways.. I had a great summer seeing two concerts. It's been years since I have been to any concert.. lol
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Post by busy on Oct 30, 2023 19:47:21 GMT
Pretty sure that’s just an endorsement/branding thing, not a business she actually owns. Forbes was clear her wealth all stems from her music catalog and performances. It's still a revenue line, whether she owns it or not. And good for her. Many artists have perfume lines that have been very profitable. I still love JLo Miami Glow in the summertime 😁 I’m not Forbes. They’re the ones who classified all her wealth as related to her music/performances. I’m guessing whatever revenue is derived from that is not substantive enough to be its own line item in her portfolio, unlike Rihanna, who derives most of her $1.4 billion from Fenty Beauty even though she is best known as a performer.
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Post by Zee on Oct 30, 2023 20:06:10 GMT
It's still a revenue line, whether she owns it or not. And good for her. Many artists have perfume lines that have been very profitable. I still love JLo Miami Glow in the summertime 😁 I’m not Forbes. They’re the ones who classified all her wealth as related to her music/performances. I’m guessing whatever revenue is derived from that is not substantive enough to be its own line item in her portfolio, unlike Rihanna, who derives most of her $1.4 billion from Fenty Beauty even though she is best known as a performer. I literally do not care how she makes her money. But this was in a recent article on LinkedIn. "Diet Coke recently paid Swift an estimated $26 Million for her partnership, including commercials and promotions on Subway cups worldwide." And apparently she doesn't have a perfume line with Elizabeth Arden anymore, though I've still seen body sprays at TJMaxx recently. And then her merch generates tens of millions every year at her shows, so I'm not sure they're counting that or not. She apparently invests in real estate too. I think the point might be that all her success is owed to her long-standing popularity and talent as a performer. How she made it all isn't really important. Apparently she makes good business decisions. ETA apparently I like to use the word apparently. Sorry for not proof reading! 😖
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Post by SallyPA on Oct 30, 2023 20:29:12 GMT
I've spent the whole weekend listening and re-listening to that album on Spotify. Me too. It is so good. The vault songs are so good! Her music makes me feel. Happy, sad, nostalgic, fun, empowered. All of it.
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Post by tealpaperowl on Oct 31, 2023 13:36:00 GMT
It's because she's the "It" thing - back in 2005ish Britney was "It" and they'd make it a news story if she bought gum from a gas station..
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Post by MichyM on Oct 31, 2023 15:55:31 GMT
It's because she's the "It" thing - back in 2005ish Britney was "It" and they'd make it a news story if she bought gum from a gas station.. This is such a nasty way to negate her work and its impact. iMHO of course.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 31, 2023 16:38:13 GMT
It's because she's the "It" thing - back in 2005ish Britney was "It" and they'd make it a news story if she bought gum from a gas station.. This is such a nasty way to negate her work and its impact. iMHO of course. I've stopped being surprised by this - which male entertainer is treated this way? Our society is so unconsciously misogynistic and honestly women are just as much to blame. We trivialize and trivialize women. A semi-talented man is never treated the way we treat very successful women.
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Post by epeanymous on Oct 31, 2023 17:04:52 GMT
This is such a nasty way to negate her work and its impact. iMHO of course. I've stopped being surprised by this - which male entertainer is treated this way? Our society is so unconsciously misogynistic and honestly women are just as much to blame. We trivialize and trivialize women. A semi-talented man is never treated the way we treat very successful women. Don't you know, there can only be one female musician at a time, the It one? **boots up boygenius on spotify**
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Post by SallyPA on Oct 31, 2023 17:10:56 GMT
She’s been an “it thing” for nearly 20 years. Try again. Do we say this about male performers?
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Post by Rhondito on Oct 31, 2023 17:38:31 GMT
I think the point might be that all her success is owed to her long-standing popularity and talent as a performer. How she made it all isn't really important. Apparently she makes good business decisions. I think it's mindblowing that a little girl took her guitar and dreams and turned them into a billion dollars. To sit and really think that it all goes back to a little girl who basically started with nothing - no nepotism or inside connections... just hard work, talent, and tenacity; and parents who fostered her dream. And now she's a billionaire. I often wonder how it must feel to be her parents, how incredibly proud they must be.
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Post by tealpaperowl on Oct 31, 2023 19:36:53 GMT
It's because she's the "It" thing - back in 2005ish Britney was "It" and they'd make it a news story if she bought gum from a gas station.. This is such a nasty way to negate her work and its impact. iMHO of course.
I like her music, I don't think anything bad about her. I'm just saying the popular "It" person seems to get headlines that aren't really news, just reporters being kind of nosy in the famous persons personal life.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 31, 2023 21:04:12 GMT
This is such a nasty way to negate her work and its impact. iMHO of course.
I like her music, I don't think anything bad about her. I'm just saying the popular "It" person seems to get headlines that aren't really news, just reporters being kind of nosy in the famous persons personal life.
Gotcha. I read it as a derogatory remark. Sorry about that.
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Post by katlady on Oct 31, 2023 22:46:46 GMT
I am also neutral about her. I’ve seen her in concert on her Red tour (took my niece). She is a great entertainer, talented songwriter, and smart business women. I don’t think she is the greatest singer, vocally, and I prefer other singers, but she has worked hard for all she has accomplished. She comes across as very wholesome and if I had a daughter I wouldn’t mind if she was a fan.
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