dawnnikol
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Post by dawnnikol on Feb 18, 2024 12:54:44 GMT
Don't worry ladies, birth control is next:
Be careful who you vote for, as always.
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dawnnikol
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'A life without books is a life not lived.' Jay Kristoff
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Post by dawnnikol on Feb 18, 2024 12:55:50 GMT
Oh and IVF:
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Post by Merge on Feb 18, 2024 15:15:36 GMT
Don't worry ladies, birth control is next: Be careful who you vote for, as always. Entirely predictable, but clueless R voters on here swore it wouldn’t happen.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 18, 2024 16:14:28 GMT
Don't worry ladies, birth control is next: Be careful who you vote for, as always. Entirely predictable, but clueless R voters on here swore it wouldn’t happen. Yup. And Roe was “settled law” too. SMDH. 🙄
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Post by Merge on Feb 18, 2024 16:20:38 GMT
Those wimmens are getting too uppity with their sexual freedom. Only men are supposed to have that!
It occurred to me recently that a big part of the right wing trans panic is because they imagine women who want more rights would just transition. Ludicrous, of course, but they imagine it to be an upset to the balance of power.
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Post by Merge on Feb 18, 2024 16:32:29 GMT
Meanwhile, in Texas: A man who assaults a woman and causes an abortion gets 180 days, but a woman or a doctor who instigated an abortion would be charged with homicide.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 18, 2024 16:53:51 GMT
I'm having nightmares of what could happen if Trump gets re-elected www.nytimes.com/2024/02/17/us/politics/trump-allies-abortion-restrictions.htmlAllies of former President Donald J. Trump and officials who served in his administration are planning ways to restrict abortion rights if he returns to power that would go far beyond proposals for a national ban or the laws enacted in conservative states across the country.
Behind the scenes, specific anti-abortion plans being proposed by Mr. Trump’s allies are sweeping and legally sophisticated. Some of their proposals would rely on enforcing the Comstock Act, a long-dormant law from 1873, to criminalize the shipping of any materials used in an abortion — including abortion pills, which account for the majority of abortions in America.
“We don’t need a federal ban when we have Comstock on the books,” said Jonathan F. Mitchell, the legal force behind a 2021 Texas law that found a way to effectively ban abortion in the state before Roe v. Wade was overturned. “There’s a smorgasbord of options.”
Mr. Trump’s idea is not yet a concrete proposal, and the anti-abortion lawyers and strategists within his own orbit already have plans in the works that toughen abortion policies using other avenues. They are not waiting for Mr. Trump to pursue turning his discussions about what he ultimately will say about abortion after the G.O.P. primary into reality, especially because they know a 16-week ban is all but certain to never pass Congress and become law. Instead, they are working much faster, and much more sharply, to exceed their anti-abortion successes in the Trump presidency.
In policy documents, private conversations and interviews, the plans described by former Trump administration officials, allies and supporters propose circumventing Congress and leveraging the regulatory powers of federal institutions, including the Department of Health and Human Services, the Food and Drug Administration, the Department of Justice and the National Institutes of Health.
The effect would be to create a second Trump administration that would attack abortion rights and abortion access from a variety of angles and could be stopped only by courts that the first Trump administration had already stacked with conservative judges.
Policies under consideration include banning the use of fetal stem cells in medical research for diseases like cancer, rescinding approval of abortion pills at the F.D.A. and stopping hundreds of millions in federal funding for Planned Parenthood. Such an action against Planned Parenthood would cripple the nation’s largest provider of women’s health care, which is already struggling to provide abortions in the post-Roe era.
Abortion rights leaders have little doubt that a second Trump administration would go as far as possible to limit abortion rights and access. While their organizations are publicly hammering Republicans for embracing national bans, they quietly worry more about the damage Mr. Trump could materially do to their cause through executive actions.
“He’s trying to masquerade in public as a moderate,” said Mini Timmaraju, president of Reproductive Freedom for All, formerly NARAL Pro-Choice America. “It’s mind-blowing that anyone would imagine he wouldn’t do worse in a second term.”
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 18, 2024 16:56:27 GMT
Meanwhile, in Texas: A man who assaults a woman and causes an abortion gets 180 days, but a woman or a doctor who instigated an abortion would be charged with homicide. That’s because fetuses only have a “right to life” if the man decides it should be so. Under their other draconian law, couldn’t she theoretically sue him for the $10K bounty?
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Post by Merge on Feb 18, 2024 16:58:17 GMT
Meanwhile, in Texas: A man who assaults a woman and causes an abortion gets 180 days, but a woman or a doctor who instigated an abortion would be charged with homicide. That’s because fetuses only have a “right to life” if the man decides it should be so. Under their other draconian law, couldn’t she theoretically sue him for the $10K bounty? I'm not sure if that law is still in effect. It was enacted before the fall of Roe. After the fall, the state's "trigger" law with a universal abortion ban and criminal consequences automatically became law.
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Post by sueg on Feb 18, 2024 17:02:06 GMT
Don't worry ladies, birth control is next: Be careful who you vote for, as always. And what will this mean for visitors to the US? I am well beyond the need for birth control, but will a young woman coming on vacation face being charged with carrying illegal drugs?
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 18, 2024 17:24:44 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 18, 2024 17:26:41 GMT
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 18, 2024 17:58:02 GMT
The wedge of Republicans who want every married person to have as many kids as times they have sex is very small. Absolutely ridiculous..
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Post by Merge on Feb 18, 2024 18:23:55 GMT
The wedge of Republicans who want every married person to have as many kids as times they have sex is very small. Absolutely ridiculous.. And yet they seem to play a disproportionately large role in our government.
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Post by dewryce on Feb 18, 2024 19:49:36 GMT
And yet…it’s not about control.
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