Season Long Survivor Thread ** SPOILERS** after episode

I hate it when they vote out all the good people with personalities!

Damn. I understand being disappointed about not being picked. I understand they're under a lot of stress. I understand she is hungry and disappointed but that reaction was something else.
What do you all think?

ETA Rooting for Charlie. He was really respectful and kind to Tiff after she lost. I like him a lot.

I am now rooting for Charlie since Hunter went out last week.

The Liz thing was ridiculous. I would maybe have more sympathy for her if she was fishing everyday or trying to find things she could eat. Even at the challenge, she didn't step out right away. If I was in as bad a spot as she claims for food, I would have been stepping out before Jeff finished the sentence. I think if she did that, she could have convinced two others (she already had Kenzie willing) to step with her. She was ticked Q didn't feed her but she almost wasn't willing to help herself.

I agree with you. I have no sympathy for Liz. She knew what she was signing up for when she went on Survivor. As you said, has she been spending hours fishing every day? Seems like we would have seen at least a short clip. How about foraging for edible plant items she’s not allergic to? If it were me I’d be doing both.

But no, she expects Q to just hand her the reward after she voted for him! And when he doesn’t she throws a verbal temper tantrum that rivals the most spoiled 2 year old toddler I’ve ever seen. Only she’s a grown woman so it’s even louder and sounds more threatening. It was ridiculous! Talk about entitlement! I think Liz is used to getting what she wants when she wants it. Not this time.

Really wish Jeff hadn’t made a special case for her with the solo rice deal. I get she’s hungry with her allergies and all, but she knew the score coming in. I haven’t liked her since the day one and I really dislike her now.

Another who was over Liz! That tantrum was the worst. You willingly went on a show when you know you have all these allergies. You also bragged about how you're a millionaire and all that. No sympathy for her. She made me like Q. I loved him standing on his decision.

I am rooting for Charlie or Maria. Maria is smart. Charlie has to have a target on his back.

Sorry to see Tiff go! I loved her. Excellent player.

I loled at the pitch for Applebees. Liz said the name "Applebees" at least 10 times.

She and Q stepped off the mat the first time rice was offered. Seems really selfish of the group, since they all would benefit from the rice the first time it was up for grabs, especially since no one really stood a chance against Hunter in that challenge.

I wonder when people are going to realize what a threat Charlie is- he beat Hunter for immunity last week, and he's no dummy as a law student. I wonder if the perception is that Marie is calling the shots in their alliance, and which one of them will be first to break it up.

After my initial post, I went and read Dalton's weekly articles, and he posted this week's deleted scene. It was about the tree mail where everyone predicted that the reward challenge would involve food. Liz already started pitching for whoever won to take her, and in a scene at the water well, Charlie, Ben, and Venus all told her she was a shoo-in to be picked. I think it literally anyone else had won the challenge, they would have taken Liz. I think the fact the Q won and didn't pick her, especially after his meltdown overshadowed the Tevin blindside understandably led to the meltdown. I get it, and I don't blame her. If you haven't eaten, haven't slept well, and are dealing with Survivor politics 24/7, your natural impulses to not pitch a fit on national TV are severely diminished. Again, I think Q is lucky she didn't smack him.

     Being upset and disappointed is one thing. Sure I get that. We all get that. But act like a mature adult. She's a mother for goodness sake with a child of her own. What she did was way out of proportion!  She basically verbally attacked 
     Q and Jeff wrote it off as airing her feelings. 

And she almost did on her first bean bag toss. I'd say for someone who is starving she did really trying to earn the reward. Yes, it is a game, but I bet she also thought there would be more food rewards by now/her tribe would have negotiated for rice. Every other tribe in the new era has negotiated for rice, so it's reasonable to have the expectation she would have gotten rice by now.

Still more context from Tiff's exit interview:

What was your reaction to that meltdown? Did you, Kenzie, or Maria think about volunteering your spot to give it to her?
That did happen! They just didn't show it. Both Maria and Kenzie tried to give up their spot for Liz. And Q said, "No. I chose who I chose."

Wait. Q said no?!
Yes. He said, "Nobody's giving up their spot. We're going to Applebee's. I don't want Liz to come. [Laughs.] I was intentional about my choices. And nobody's giving up their spot." I'm surprised they didn't show that. That happened. I didn't try to give up my spot because I was hungry, and I was going no matter what. Also, I did feel in that moment that me and Q needed to chat because we hadn't spoken in two days. But people tried to give up their spots. He just wasn't with it.


parade.com/tv/tiffany-nicole-ervin-survivor-46-eliminated-interview

No idea if those offers happened before or after the meltdown, but still...

There are no guarantees on the show. 

That is interesting, I was kind of surprised that one of the girls didn't give up their spot to Liz. Interesting that Q was allowed to override that.

And like I said before I get that she's under a lot of stress and hangry and everything else but frankly she knew what she was getting into. Everyone there is under stress and hungry. Just because she has weird allergies doesn't mean she should be chosen for reward over somebody else that he chose to invite.