carhoch
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Post by carhoch on Jul 6, 2024 0:14:41 GMT
Biden did a great job but I really wish he drop out now , he is showing some serious decline in the last couple of months. That being said a diminished Biden is still better than Trump so I will vote blue no matter who.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 6, 2024 4:11:31 GMT
1. Gavin Newsom is not running for President . Yet. There is a difference. 2. As someone who also lives in CA I disagree with your belief that Newsom is “killing” CA. But inquiring minds would like to know, just exactly how do you think Newsom is “killing” CA? A record high budget shortfall Homelessness is out of control Promised funding to the Developmentally Challenged community scratched Minimum wage at $20 for fast food workers Increased mandatory sick pay which causes employers to experience higher employee costs And I value the relationships here and I NEVER discuss politics. So - not meant to be a hand slap to anyone - but I'll be backing out of this thread Oh and I absolutely am NOT a Trump backer!! Thanks for responding. I was curious.
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samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Jul 6, 2024 6:44:00 GMT
A record high budget shortfall Homelessness is out of control Promised funding to the Developmentally Challenged community scratched Minimum wage at $20 for fast food workers Increased mandatory sick pay which causes employers to experience higher employee costs And I value the relationships here and I NEVER discuss politics. So - not meant to be a hand slap to anyone - but I'll be backing out of this thread Oh and I absolutely am NOT a Trump backer!! Thanks for responding. I was curious. Biden is not dropping out. His vp is kamala,rinse and repeat for 2024. Talk of 2028 candidates will be exciting as no dump or Biden. . Can't wait. For right now it's Biden and he will win and get the job done for another in 2028. That's his job now and I stand by him with kamala. It's all media crap that spreads shit.
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Post by used2scrap on Jul 6, 2024 7:11:57 GMT
Biden did a great job but I really wish he drop out now , he is showing some serious decline in the last couple of months. That being said a diminished Biden is still better than Trump so I will vote blue no matter who. This will only end in Trump getting re elected.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 6, 2024 14:44:34 GMT
When it comes to The NY Times anything they say about the president is suspect. Only considered suspect by liberals when they’re not kissing Biden and the democrats asses. Does this really sound like fair, unbiased, impartial or objective journalism? This sounds a lot more like kissing Trump and the Republicans' asses. Or, at a minimum ignoring the elephant in the room. heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/july-5-2024-fridayJournalist Jennifer Schulze of Heartland Signal noted today that as of 8:00 this morning, the New York Times had published 192 pieces on Biden’s debate performance: 142 news articles and 50 opinion pieces. Trump was covered in 92 stories, about half of which were about the Supreme Court’s immunity ruling. Although Trump has frequently slurred his words or trailed off while speaking and repeatedly fell asleep at his own criminal trial, none of the pieces mentioned Trump’s mental fitness.
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Post by jill8909 on Jul 6, 2024 21:13:14 GMT
I think Biden signaled that he is going to drop out during his ABC news interview last night.
George asked him if he would drop out if Dem leaders asked him to and his answer was "I'm not going to answer." and then something along the lines of it won't happen.
That was a big clue and one the media is ignoring.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 6, 2024 21:33:16 GMT
If President Biden drops out of the race trump will win and that will be the last election this country will have.
Its that simple.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 6, 2024 21:38:01 GMT
I am not convinced that it will be possible to get a new candidate on the ballot in every state. Republicans will throw up roadblocks. We could end up in court over it. None of the folks who want Biden to step down have mentioned it-at least, I haven’t seen anyone discussing it.
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Post by jill8909 on Jul 6, 2024 21:47:30 GMT
If President Biden drops out of the race trump will win and that will be the last election this country will have. Its that simple. So Interesting. I think Biden has zero chance of winning and another Dem maybe a chance. I think Trump will win, and honestly I am heartsick.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 6, 2024 22:29:45 GMT
I am not convinced that it will be possible to get a new candidate on the ballot in every state. Republicans will throw up roadblocks. We could end up in court over it. None of the folks who want Biden to step down have mentioned it-at least, I haven’t seen anyone discussing it. This exactly. Republicans in Ohio almost prevented Biden from being on the ballot. Republicans will throw up every possible road block to another candidate.
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Post by dawnnikol on Jul 6, 2024 23:14:37 GMT
I think Biden signaled that he is going to drop out during his ABC news interview last night. George asked him if he would drop out if Dem leaders asked him to and his answer was "I'm not going to answer." and then something along the lines of it won't happen. That was a big clue and one the media is ignoring. The media has done nothing but try to give Trump the presidency. Biden is our nominee. Shut off the news. Honestly. We have 4 months.
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Post by Merge on Jul 6, 2024 23:46:18 GMT
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jul 7, 2024 8:05:10 GMT
I think Biden signaled that he is going to drop out during his ABC news interview last night. George asked him if he would drop out if Dem leaders asked him to and his answer was "I'm not going to answer." and then something along the lines of it won't happen. That was a big clue and one the media is ignoring. The media has done nothing but try to give Trump the presidency. Biden is our nominee. Shut off the news. Honestly. We have 4 months. Trump is a train wreck, and the media loves it because when he's in the news, no one can look away.
Trump means ratings, and profits, and that's all media cares about.
It has been a very long time since news was just straight facts that you could depend on and trust.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 7, 2024 14:24:54 GMT
Oh and the convicted felon is sooooo much younger? Both men are old. To not vote for President Biden because he is old is a vote for the other old guy. One has done things for the American People and the other old guy only did one thing and that was cut taxes for the rich which added bigly to the debt.
Aaron Rupar…
”Adam Schiff on Meet the Press: "Given Joe Biden's incredible record, given Donald Trump's terrible record, he should be mopping the floor w/ Trump. Joe Biden's running against a criminal. It should not be even close & there's only one reason it is & that's the president's age."
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 7, 2024 14:43:50 GMT
she’s right… Aaron Rupar ”Rep. Debbie Dingell: "We need to get back to talking about Donald Trump and his performance and all the issues that are at stake and the contrast ... how he wants to be a dictator and how he thinks Roe was the greatest thing he ever did ... he thinks January 6 was a great thing." x.com/atrupar/status/1809958264852906275?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jul 7, 2024 16:10:15 GMT
she’s right… Aaron Rupar ”Rep. Debbie Dingell: "We need to get back to talking about Donald Trump and his performance and all the issues that are at stake and the contrast ... how he wants to be a dictator and how he thinks Roe was the greatest thing he ever did ... he thinks January 6 was a great thing." x.com/atrupar/status/1809958264852906275?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nwThis. It infuriates me that the Democrats are not rallying behind Biden and calling out Trump. His track record, his rambling, his lies all need to be shouted from the rooftops. I refuse to watch any news anymore because all they are talking about is Biden’s supposed issues. They never talk about Trump and his issues. They aren’t covering Project 25 and what that means for people.
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Post by Merge on Jul 7, 2024 20:34:31 GMT
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Post by samantha25 on Jul 9, 2024 3:35:50 GMT
I have never seen this: President Biden had an extremely detailed neurological exam which found no issues. His gait issues are from a fractured foot, spinal arthritis, and neuropathy. Most importantly, doctors found him Healthy and fit x.com/PoliticusSarah/status/1810452878651220339
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Post by jill8909 on Jul 9, 2024 22:19:35 GMT
I don't care what Biden's doctors say. There is something about him NOW that is wrong for a President. And I used to be a fan. He and Trump and the 2 VP candidates should all have neuro cognitive exams by an independent doctor jointly selected with all results made public.
Biden is a mess but so is fat Donnie
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 9, 2024 23:26:40 GMT
Read up on Project 2025 and tell me again that you have a problem voting for Biden. I'm using "you" in general and not a specific person here. Despite what lying liar who lies Trump says, all of what is contained in Project 2025 will happen under Trump. We are what is standing in the way of our democracy. Do you want Trump, or do you want to protect life as we know it for generations to come? I feel quite comfortable voting for Biden, knowing that there is someone capable in the wings to take over if/when the time comes.
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Post by samantha25 on Jul 10, 2024 4:25:16 GMT
I don't care what Biden's doctors say. There is something about him NOW that is wrong for a President. And I used to be a fan. He and Trump and the 2 VP candidates should all have neuro cognitive exams by an independent doctor jointly selected with all results made public. Biden is a mess but so is fat Donnie Based on one debate performance, based on what the media says? Here is Seth Abramson's latest. It's a good read. I won't post the whole article as it's a paid subscription. Edited: The article is all free. Here is the link: x.com/ladyhawk2036/status/1810897165167784244
We Now Know What Really Happened in Atlanta Media lied to voters about the cause of President Biden’s subpar debate performance. The lie—described here in full—is unforgivable, and was intended to chill discussion of Trump’s cognitive decline. SETH ABRAMSON
_____________________________ Summary Here is what this new Proof report will show, with reliable major-media sourcing: 1. Just 120 days ago, Joe Biden had a full cognitive work-up which showed no abnormal results. Major media had access to this report beginning on March 1 and pretended it did not.
2. Prior to leaving for a long overseas trip in June, President Biden exhibited no cognitive behavior that is unusual for his age. Major media had confirmed this within hours or (at most) days of the Atlanta debate, and either failed to report it, buried it in longer articles intended to suggest something very different about the President of the United States, or else—sadly, this is what happened with most media outlets—continued to report the opposite of the truth to mislead readers. 3. During his trip overseas, President Biden was so committed to working hard for America that he ignored staffers’ advice about resting, undertook a schedule that major media now confirms would be deemed both physically and mentally “grueling” for a man half his age, and yet still exercised daily and came home to America to continue to work long hours. This wholly elective lack of necessary self-care, which to his credit Joe Biden has only blamed himself for since Atlanta, led to him (a) getting a bad cold, (b) needing to take daily afternoon naps, and (c) making several more gaffes than usual in the days immediately preceding Atlanta. His transient ill health was known to his team before the debate, but there was also, it now appears, a universal presumption—almost surely correct—that if it had tried to move the debate or to pre-but any poor performance with a revelation that the president was briefly in a bout of bad health very much of his own making, major media would have skewered him mercilessly. So Team Biden rolled the dice. 4. None of this impacted anything national security-related, either before or after the debate. In other words, the fear Americans are most likely to have about the cognitive abilities of any U.S. president or candidate for that job are unfounded—as least as to Joe Biden. As to Donald Trump, as we will see below, the fears are very much founded, and have nothing to do with a known cause like an overseas trip during which the man ignored staffers and worked far too hard and too long for a man of any age. 5. Since he got over his cold and got some rest, Joe Biden has been just fine. And that is according to everyone who works with him who’s spoken to major media about it. Moreover, major media has confirmed from countless sources that prior to going overseas in June the president was sharp as a tack, including and perhaps especially in national security briefings and national emergencies—making claims of a longstanding cover-up by MAGA voters and far-right ideologues laughable. 6. In contrast, Donald Trump has been in demonstrated cognitive decline over the last year, and there is no known explanation for it; indeed, the campaign has not even tried to explain it. In fact, the opposite has occurred. Trump and his team, in conjunction with major media, have worked to treat any discussion of this subject as verboten, even though it’s been all over independent media outlets—with video, audio, medical analyses, and more—for months if not more. At the time major media began harping on President Biden’s alleged cognitive decline, progressive dissatisfaction with the lack of coverage of Donald Trump’s cognitive decline had reached a fever pitch. The only way for major media to resolve the situation in its favor was to turn a one-night situation whose causes and implications it quickly understood to be (respectively) transient and virtually non-existent into a bigger story that would at once plump ratings, virtue-signal even-handedness, and put progressive critics back on their heels. It also would punish an administration major media feels angst toward because it’s been far worse for ratings and for subscription models than its incompetent, corrupt, spectacularly unprofessional predecessor. So major media knew, in March 2024, from medical reports voluntarily released by the White House, that Joe Biden was in perfect cognitive health. It also confirmed this in offering universal praise for President Biden’s famously vigorous State of the Union address in March. That address was so powerful that the president’s enemies whined—falsely—that he must’ve been placed on performance-enhancing drugs to achieve it, a claim (still false) they would repeat just before the Atlanta debate, so sure were they and their allies in media that President Biden would again deliver a great performance. Major media was not aware of any event having befallen President Biden that would explain him being in a different cognitive state as June 2024 began than he was in when he got his full cognitive work-up on February 28 or delivered his commanding State of the Union address a week later. Indeed, within a matter of hours after the Atlanta debate it knew, from dozens of sources with knowledge of President Biden’s work inside the White House, that nothing had changed in March, April, or May—Biden was sharp and focused in those months just as he had been at the State of the Union. Major media knew that, beginning in June, the president had undertaken a schedule during a long trip to Europe that his staffers strongly advised against because it would had led to gross exhaustion—major media has explicitly confirmed—in a man half his age. Major media knew that the Biden’s lapses in Europe began as a result of this pre-forecast gross exhaustion, which had been brought on by a president overruling his staff to work harder for America than it would be wise for any president to be working.
Major media knew that, upon return from Europe, President Biden was suffering from exhaustion, a jet lag that wouldn’t go away, and—not surprisingly, soon thereafter—a cold that was so bad it was believed he might have COVID-19. Nevertheless, because President Biden is stubborn and a lifelong “happy warrior,” he insisted on debating Trump just as he’d insisted on keeping a self-avowedly unhealthy schedule in Europe that deprived him of sleep and even intermittent rest. Major media knew that, ten minutes or so into the Atlanta debate, President Biden realized how poorly things were going and how ill his health was and pushed himself to improve in the final 80 minutes of the debate—which he did, albeit only marginally. Major media ignored this gradual improvement despite knowing most of its viewers were unaware of it, having turned off their televisions in disgust (at both candidates) only a matter of minutes into the Atlanta event. Major media knew that, within days of the debate, dozens of sources had come out of the woodwork to tell it that the president was now doing fine and was as sharp as ever—information major media had already had confirmed to it simply by watching Biden rallies in North Carolina, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, as well as interviews a now-rested Biden had conducted with both ABC News and MSNBC.
Major media knew, therefore, that there was no story here except a series of bad calls by a sitting President of the United States who was overworking himself for America. So what did media do, faced with a ho-hum reality but a potential barnstorming lie? It hid the medical reports it had, and instead pretended that eight trips a Parkinson’s specialist made to the White House in the last eight months—none of which trips had anything whatsoever to do with Joe Biden, but were instead about continued treatment for more than 1,200 patients who receive care via the White House Medical Unit—might in fact be part of an illicit conspiracy to treat the President of the United States for a major illness the reports it already had had already confirmed he wasn’t suffering from. It told Americans that President Biden’s team’s claims that he had been suffering from exhaustion, jet lag, and a bad cold were all post-debate “spin”—despite every source it had spoken to saying that all of that was in fact true. It hid flash polls showing that debate-watchers thought President Biden had won on substance, even as Trump won on style. It hid focus group results indicating that the debate hadn’t changed voters’ minds about either candidate. It hid post-debate polls showing that in certain national surveys Biden had gained on Mr. Trump both at the national level and in battleground states—particularly Michigan, Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Georgia, all states Biden campaigned in following the debate. It offered viewers numerous reports it later had to retract about dissent within the party, from an imaginary meeting that was (never) held by Senator Mark Warner to an imaginary call for the president to retire that was (never) issued by Representative Ted Lieu; it treated grumbling by just nine congressional Democrats (out of 260 Democrats now in Congress) as a mandate, even as some of these nine had wavered in their convictions, and bolstered this paltry sum by featuring many former political advisers and former politicians giving their opinions on events in Washington they had no idea about; it selectively aired only clips of President Biden’s very weakest moments at the Atlanta debate, then selectively aired only a clip of his weakest moment at his North Carolina rally, then selectively aired only clips of his weakest moments from his ABC News interview, at no point telling viewers that by then it had learned the entirety of what happened in Atlanta and why (to include Biden having difficulty getting off the stage as a result of a previously publicly disclosed neuropathy in his feet that has nothing to do with cognition but is exacerbated by stress and exhaustion). And it did all these things while in its twelfth month of ignoring indie-media reports establishing via video, audio, and eyewitness evidence that Donald Trump was and is in the midst of a significant cognitive decline.
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Post by sunshine on Jul 10, 2024 10:25:45 GMT
I don't care what Biden's doctors say. There is something about him NOW that is wrong for a President. And I used to be a fan. He and Trump and the 2 VP candidates should all have neuro cognitive exams by an independent doctor jointly selected with all results made public. Biden is a mess but so is fat Donnie Based on one debate performance, based on what the media says? Here is Seth Abramson's latest. It's a good read. I won't post the whole article as it's a paid subscription. Edited: The article is all free. Here is the link: x.com/ladyhawk2036/status/1810897165167784244
We Now Know What Really Happened in Atlanta Media lied to voters about the cause of President Biden’s subpar debate performance. The lie—described here in full—is unforgivable, and was intended to chill discussion of Trump’s cognitive decline. SETH ABRAMSON
_____________________________ Summary Here is what this new Proof report will show, with reliable major-media sourcing: 1. Just 120 days ago, Joe Biden had a full cognitive work-up which showed no abnormal results. Major media had access to this report beginning on March 1 and pretended it did not.
2. Prior to leaving for a long overseas trip in June, President Biden exhibited no cognitive behavior that is unusual for his age. Major media had confirmed this within hours or (at most) days of the Atlanta debate, and either failed to report it, buried it in longer articles intended to suggest something very different about the President of the United States, or else—sadly, this is what happened with most media outlets—continued to report the opposite of the truth to mislead readers. 3. During his trip overseas, President Biden was so committed to working hard for America that he ignored staffers’ advice about resting, undertook a schedule that major media now confirms would be deemed both physically and mentally “grueling” for a man half his age, and yet still exercised daily and came home to America to continue to work long hours. This wholly elective lack of necessary self-care, which to his credit Joe Biden has only blamed himself for since Atlanta, led to him (a) getting a bad cold, (b) needing to take daily afternoon naps, and (c) making several more gaffes than usual in the days immediately preceding Atlanta. His transient ill health was known to his team before the debate, but there was also, it now appears, a universal presumption—almost surely correct—that if it had tried to move the debate or to pre-but any poor performance with a revelation that the president was briefly in a bout of bad health very much of his own making, major media would have skewered him mercilessly. So Team Biden rolled the dice. 4. None of this impacted anything national security-related, either before or after the debate. In other words, the fear Americans are most likely to have about the cognitive abilities of any U.S. president or candidate for that job are unfounded—as least as to Joe Biden. As to Donald Trump, as we will see below, the fears are very much founded, and have nothing to do with a known cause like an overseas trip during which the man ignored staffers and worked far too hard and too long for a man of any age. 5. Since he got over his cold and got some rest, Joe Biden has been just fine. And that is according to everyone who works with him who’s spoken to major media about it. Moreover, major media has confirmed from countless sources that prior to going overseas in June the president was sharp as a tack, including and perhaps especially in national security briefings and national emergencies—making claims of a longstanding cover-up by MAGA voters and far-right ideologues laughable. 6. In contrast, Donald Trump has been in demonstrated cognitive decline over the last year, and there is no known explanation for it; indeed, the campaign has not even tried to explain it. In fact, the opposite has occurred. Trump and his team, in conjunction with major media, have worked to treat any discussion of this subject as verboten, even though it’s been all over independent media outlets—with video, audio, medical analyses, and more—for months if not more. At the time major media began harping on President Biden’s alleged cognitive decline, progressive dissatisfaction with the lack of coverage of Donald Trump’s cognitive decline had reached a fever pitch. The only way for major media to resolve the situation in its favor was to turn a one-night situation whose causes and implications it quickly understood to be (respectively) transient and virtually non-existent into a bigger story that would at once plump ratings, virtue-signal even-handedness, and put progressive critics back on their heels. It also would punish an administration major media feels angst toward because it’s been far worse for ratings and for subscription models than its incompetent, corrupt, spectacularly unprofessional predecessor. So major media knew, in March 2024, from medical reports voluntarily released by the White House, that Joe Biden was in perfect cognitive health. It also confirmed this in offering universal praise for President Biden’s famously vigorous State of the Union address in March. That address was so powerful that the president’s enemies whined—falsely—that he must’ve been placed on performance-enhancing drugs to achieve it, a claim (still false) they would repeat just before the Atlanta debate, so sure were they and their allies in media that President Biden would again deliver a great performance. Major media was not aware of any event having befallen President Biden that would explain him being in a different cognitive state as June 2024 began than he was in when he got his full cognitive work-up on February 28 or delivered his commanding State of the Union address a week later. Indeed, within a matter of hours after the Atlanta debate it knew, from dozens of sources with knowledge of President Biden’s work inside the White House, that nothing had changed in March, April, or May—Biden was sharp and focused in those months just as he had been at the State of the Union. Major media knew that, beginning in June, the president had undertaken a schedule during a long trip to Europe that his staffers strongly advised against because it would had led to gross exhaustion—major media has explicitly confirmed—in a man half his age. Major media knew that the Biden’s lapses in Europe began as a result of this pre-forecast gross exhaustion, which had been brought on by a president overruling his staff to work harder for America than it would be wise for any president to be working.
Major media knew that, upon return from Europe, President Biden was suffering from exhaustion, a jet lag that wouldn’t go away, and—not surprisingly, soon thereafter—a cold that was so bad it was believed he might have COVID-19. Nevertheless, because President Biden is stubborn and a lifelong “happy warrior,” he insisted on debating Trump just as he’d insisted on keeping a self-avowedly unhealthy schedule in Europe that deprived him of sleep and even intermittent rest. Major media knew that, ten minutes or so into the Atlanta debate, President Biden realized how poorly things were going and how ill his health was and pushed himself to improve in the final 80 minutes of the debate—which he did, albeit only marginally. Major media ignored this gradual improvement despite knowing most of its viewers were unaware of it, having turned off their televisions in disgust (at both candidates) only a matter of minutes into the Atlanta event. Major media knew that, within days of the debate, dozens of sources had come out of the woodwork to tell it that the president was now doing fine and was as sharp as ever—information major media had already had confirmed to it simply by watching Biden rallies in North Carolina, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, as well as interviews a now-rested Biden had conducted with both ABC News and MSNBC.
Major media knew, therefore, that there was no story here except a series of bad calls by a sitting President of the United States who was overworking himself for America. So what did media do, faced with a ho-hum reality but a potential barnstorming lie? It hid the medical reports it had, and instead pretended that eight trips a Parkinson’s specialist made to the White House in the last eight months—none of which trips had anything whatsoever to do with Joe Biden, but were instead about continued treatment for more than 1,200 patients who receive care via the White House Medical Unit—might in fact be part of an illicit conspiracy to treat the President of the United States for a major illness the reports it already had had already confirmed he wasn’t suffering from. It told Americans that President Biden’s team’s claims that he had been suffering from exhaustion, jet lag, and a bad cold were all post-debate “spin”—despite every source it had spoken to saying that all of that was in fact true. It hid flash polls showing that debate-watchers thought President Biden had won on substance, even as Trump won on style. It hid focus group results indicating that the debate hadn’t changed voters’ minds about either candidate. It hid post-debate polls showing that in certain national surveys Biden had gained on Mr. Trump both at the national level and in battleground states—particularly Michigan, Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Georgia, all states Biden campaigned in following the debate. It offered viewers numerous reports it later had to retract about dissent within the party, from an imaginary meeting that was (never) held by Senator Mark Warner to an imaginary call for the president to retire that was (never) issued by Representative Ted Lieu; it treated grumbling by just nine congressional Democrats (out of 260 Democrats now in Congress) as a mandate, even as some of these nine had wavered in their convictions, and bolstered this paltry sum by featuring many former political advisers and former politicians giving their opinions on events in Washington they had no idea about; it selectively aired only clips of President Biden’s very weakest moments at the Atlanta debate, then selectively aired only a clip of his weakest moment at his North Carolina rally, then selectively aired only clips of his weakest moments from his ABC News interview, at no point telling viewers that by then it had learned the entirety of what happened in Atlanta and why (to include Biden having difficulty getting off the stage as a result of a previously publicly disclosed neuropathy in his feet that has nothing to do with cognition but is exacerbated by stress and exhaustion). And it did all these things while in its twelfth month of ignoring indie-media reports establishing via video, audio, and eyewitness evidence that Donald Trump was and is in the midst of a significant cognitive decline.
OMG the rubber-stamped parroting.
Where have you people been the past 4 years? From the time he announced he was running there has been nothing but lame ass excuses for his "performances." He ran from his basement (which should have been the first clue), joe's got a stutter, joe just says gaffes, he had one bad night, he had a cold, it was the cold medicine, he had jet lag. The guy holed up at Camp David for a week to practice for the debate and we ALL saw who he is when he came out. Can't hide it no matter how hard the left tries. I wonder why he's been the least accessible president since Reagan?
And the media, they're shocked, shocked I tell ya. They just can't believe what they saw! Talk about CYA.
Those democrats that are calling for him to step down? They're ALL up for re-election in November. Every.single.one. This isn't about them trying to save our democracy, they're trying to save their political careers. They're not ready to give up the power, the money, the parties. They aren't putting away their ball gowns and tuxedos without putting on a faux show.
It's all a farce.
Politics is so fricking smarmy, and so are politicians no matter what letter comes after their names.
eta: I'm gonna correct myself here-it's 7 house dems calling for joe to step down (all up for re-election), and 1 dem senator (not up for re-election). I didn't know about Bennett when I posted lol. I wonder what's up with that?
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Post by sunshine on Jul 10, 2024 10:47:51 GMT
Talking about smarmy politics-remember TJ Ducklo? The biden deputy press secretary that threatened a reporter if she didn't change her story about him? He's back, on the biden re-election campaign. So much for getting rid of any employee that showed disrespect to others. I wonder who joe owes to bring this guy back.
Smarmy.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 10, 2024 11:42:20 GMT
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Post by smasonnc on Jul 10, 2024 12:36:03 GMT
Read up on Project 2025 and tell me again that you have a problem voting for Biden. I voted for Biden and will again, but I'm p*$$ed that I have to because we've been lied to. Trump is leading in the polls so we will likely end up with a lunatic back in the White House. It's not just four more years, either. We'll feel it for many years if Trump gets to appoint Supreme Court justices. I'm very discouraged. Yeah, Trump lies to us, spouts nonsense, and has diabolical plans for when he's in office, but his followers are locked in and his opponent is weakened. This does not end well. As for the Seth Abramson article, it's one opinion column that is contrary to news sources around the world. And the "extremely detailed neurological exam which found no issues?" It was the White House physician. How about an impartial report? They think we're naive enough to believe he's fine despite what we see with our own eyes and some people are buying it because they want to. At this point, there's no good alternative to Biden. When Johnson stepped down and Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in 1968, it cast things into chaos and we ended up with Nixon. The American people deserve better than this $#*tshow. We could have had a choice had the press and Democratic elites been honest with us but now we're in a handbasket.
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Post by morecowbell on Jul 11, 2024 21:01:11 GMT
No. Continue on the path of sticking with Biden and ensure a Republican win. 👍
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Post by morecowbell on Jul 11, 2024 21:07:21 GMT
If the Dems force Biden to step down, we as a nation will never see another president past Trump. There is too much at stake to have Biden step down and another person take over. It is an idiotic want that will have a rippling affect beyond just the USA. That is pure propaganda from the same people that have been telling you all this time that Biden is fine and the videos showing Biden's decline are "edited" and "cheap fakes". They are absolutely not, and they have had to go back and correct.
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Post by morecowbell on Jul 11, 2024 21:10:27 GMT
This is not a great plan. Harris, for many, is the reason to vote for Trump, even if they hate Trump. I fully believe Biden will not make it long, and his VP will be who we are voting for. I wish Pete B was his VP! And how would it go over if you replace Joe but skip over Kamala Harris for someone else? You don’t see potential problems with that? One thing that I do when people tell me that they don’t like Kamala is ask them why. They usually don’t know why. They just don’t like her. Someone said she’d just be bad with nothing to back it up. I have said a few times here... specifically why people don't like her and people have deflected with "it's only because she's black" and "no one can say why they don't like her".
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Post by morecowbell on Jul 11, 2024 21:34:02 GMT
I haven't read the replies, and probably won't since I don't usually even open political threads. But for some reason I couldn't help it on this one. My question is why should we -- "we" meaning general "we", i.e., anyone in the USA -- equate a poor showing on one debate with being a bad president? Yes it seems he had a bad debate (although I can't imagine the Orange One was any better, except that his followers are stupid sheep and don't care what he says or how he says it). But that doesn't mean he is or will be a bad president. Yes, he's too old, in my opinion. And yes of course he's 100% a better choice than trump. I don't understand why we just jump immediately to "replace him" after one debate. Because it wasn't just "one bad debate". It was a debate that put to rest the denial that he's too mentally declined to run the country.
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Just T
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Post by Just T on Jul 11, 2024 21:38:56 GMT
It was a debate that put to rest the denial that he's too mentally declined to run the country. And you don't think Trump with his rambling word salads full of blatant lies isn't too mentally declined to run the country? LMAO I will never understand one thing. You have claimed in the past to be pro choice. If you truly are, how in the world can you support Trump and his crew?
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